Guild Wars 2

in ascalon there is a lot of messy effects…
FPS drops drasticaly (i have an high end PC) and charr models are bugged…(try water 2 or fire 2 with D/D) and not using a charr usually its even harder.
Expecially in front of the first door.

Nobody never kicked me….yet its clear that n many occasions the game is balanced on high HP classes.

You may say an ale with 14K hp should be oneshot, but having 16,500 and toughness set i don t like when i see guardians/warriors getting away to many things that oneshot me….

Also i nevre said ele is useless, i just said 2 classes are the best….

Many others haves tricks that makes many stages easier (thief, mesmer, eng).

Ele is just meh….nothing special….and may be a burden in some part of dungeons (expecially first part of dredge)

STRanger.5120:

Grevender.9235:

IF running a bunker build, Elementalist is kinda immortal. Think this: in PvP devs needed to nerf above mentioned bunker build by 50% (yep, fifty, you read well).

If this is gonna happen, that would be the dark times for Elementalists, because that’s the only viable PvP build right now, if you don’t want to be a meat-on-the-stick for every 2-3 button instagib build….. and pretty much every other build also…
Squishy + forced melee range = dead Elementalist (your own signature points it out…)

Unfortunately a common mistaek is not to specify weapon set.

He is referring to staff ele…

Also this game is not famous for being blance, infact since then staff is considered mostly unviable….
Bunker staff eles disappeared completely.

Save for few exceptions…..

Kirbyprime.2645:

Also, >.> Dredge first stage for Elementalist isn’t too bad. If you’re on the first or second switch, just use staff or focus for projectile null. Run in with an earth elemental up and proceed to not care for 10-20 seconds while people go in. If you’re on the 3rd or 4th switches same thing except you last longer and have some people to help you. If you’re not on switches you go around AoE’ing anything that may aggro the panel guy. If you’re on panel, earth elemental helps take aggro off you.

This works until frac 19 excluded…..
I use mostly D/D on this part…
summon earth golem (sometimes better ice)
i use earth 4 to get time
I use armor of earth to gain time
use mistform and heal…

Still i die before party can get to their point….

You use a VIT/tough build i use a mostly tough/prec with some vit gear…. i have your same toughness but16,5K HP.

I can assure you that to survive enough you need luck, you can get stun also preventing you torecover.

As always a static ele is a dead ele….and many situations in fotm force us to stand still.

And i am usually the one to die last in fotm due to ccurate evasions (also 25 AR helps ._.).

Oh, and I take offense to the guy who says taking staff to 20+ is bad. It’s still the same stupidly easy thing as anything else. Only thing that I remember that can 1 hit me is Ascalon warrior rushes and it’s simple to avoid that ( hint: don’t be a moron ).

1) staff lacks damage on my build…..i can crowd control or save myself but then i m not doing my part….

2) it wasn t his first attack…in fact i wrote “i wait someone other to get aggro”, also they get up after a stun and attack….i’d really love to see you melee warriors in ascalon stage and evade their attack in the midst of the confusion that stage is.

While being targeted by siege machines, rangers and ele i m sure you ll evade everything….

3) hint: if you think that isnulting random people, youìll seem a pro ona forum you are wrong…..you just seem a rude guy not a pro.

how do you deal with range issue with D/D…..
Imho D/D is not the best weapon for www unless you want to hunt thieves or do small tasks in particular.

well lets be real…
90% (possibly more) of prople complaining about D/D are thieves….

You can spot them checking their profile….
You get 2 examples above….

do not agree
Mesmer is really useful (stealth, quickness, portals, more targets etc etc etc), but having a guardian is better

Wethospu.6437:

LordByron.8369:

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I mean they are trash mobs, i just WAIT someone other to get aggro i go in the middle with my 75 sec CD combo, pop up armor of earth (knight set also) and BAMMM 12.000 damage… O___o

A toughness set + armor of earth => 12.000 dmg? really?

And my GLASS-warrior would have taken like 20k damage in that situation. With no way to heal back.
Or when I get hit by agony, bye bye whole health bar.

Exactly…….
Different from a toughness set with a reduction damage skill in effect.
.____.

Saraman.1930:

They only drop in lower fractals – levels 1 through to 10. I have two so far, it is just RNG from mobs.

in party saw drop 1 at maw stage fotm 20 yesterday >.>

Its more common on 1-10 btw
Btw mats can be down or upgraded.
1 shard=3 globs
1 globs=5 vials

if i recall correctly.

personally i really enjoy
Power/precision/toughness

And some vitality jewels

DigitalBAZOOKA.3940:

Hay all, iv been struggling to find a class to suit my current playstyle and after 7 others here I am at the elementalist( only chosen last because people claim that they die with a sneeze, yet others claim them to be the most rewarding and versatile class out there?) Due to my lack of time I plan to make this elemntalist my main class for a long while due to insane versatility

So here is what i already know about the class :

The elementalist has no weapon swap(meaning a I can only use 1 set at a time) but they have 4 different element to call on your weapon set, so id have 20 different skills on demand instead of the normal 10

yet they force you on a particular range each.

They also have cool conjoured weapons which further adds versatility(iv only every used th fire sword on my extremely tanky guardian and did such insane damage I was in a moment of awe………

Not that good if not to give one to a guardian/warrior

Burst damage on the class is extremely high

Depends on weapon but damage isn t comparable to warriors and many other classes (DPS not only burst).

Elementalist also have the ability to use pets that seem way smarter than that of the ranger or necromancer

not even comparable…
Ele has 2 pets as elite skill and they have short duration and long CD.
The only 2 usable are usually
Ice elemental (because it cures sometimes)
Earth elemental in PvE (a wall with legs)

Necro and ranger are completely on a different level…….way better in everything.
We use elementals as elite due to the lack of any other decent elite.

Elementalists are very squishy yet people say that they make great bunkers?

You learn from first level to dodge, otherwise you die to a moa….for that when you reach 80 you are quite accustomed to evading and healing.

What kind of gameplay will I be looking at later levels? Will I always be on the defensive or will I beable to take on 5 to 6 mobs at a time?

as D/D you can take many mobs at once….in PvE
In dungeons you will AoE damage many and spam might stacks to the party…..but you risk a lot due to the insane burst of most mobs in dungeons.

Basic run down on skills and abilities? (though not really needed because I intend to wiki he hell out of these)

Depends on traits but you will have some interesting combos….
In PvE you should be able to keep at least 6 stacks of might with spikes of 15…..
Also if you use at least one hydromancy sigil, you’ll be able to keep most mobs chilled with appropriate rotations.

Will I excel in Dungeons?

No….
Guardian or warriors are better….mesmers and engineers are good also.
You will do your part but you won t excel in anything…

People claim that elementalist make good tanks how far is this true? Is it about armor of abilities?

You have RTL to escape fast, many healings, and the chance to evade more than other classes with some traits….

It requires you to evade appropriately, yet there are many counterbuilds….
Btw you are the counterbuild to thieves….infact if you read someone complaining about ele 90% you can find in his profile he use a thief.

Leveling suggestions (recemended weapons, builds, skills)……….(also not a high priority as I like to experiment myself, though advice is welcomed)

there is a guide for that in this section….

But mainly what to expect in all aspects of the game as an elementalist?

Thanx in advance =)

The most fun class to play if D/D….
You won t be able to chat btw .-. due to insane amount of buttons you’ll have to press…

EX my basic opening PvE combo

Fire:
3-4
step forward
Earth:
Roll back (tiggers evasive arcana trait)
4-5
While channeling 5
armor of earth
arcane wave
fire attunement

Doesn t work in WWW etc >.> but for pve is good with correct positioning.
You won’t find a class with similar combos

Ok a war can just 1hb for more dmg but its not as fun…

elementalist here…
I quite agree with OP….i still don t find discrimination (due to the fact that i was lucky and have AR25 so i survive more at bosses), but for sure i can see a role for each class for fotm excluding elementalist..

Mesmer=> portal
Guardian=>well its the best to have in party
Warrior=> same as above
Ranger => great ranged damage really useful in many stage
Engineer => elixirs and underwater
Thief = >stealth is huge in fotm (see dredge etc)

Ele just isn t good for anything…..its just meh.
And explecially in dredge stage past lvl 20 you are a burden in the first part >.<

You cannot tank, and standing still with staff is a suicide, instead with dagger you are j
just hit from enemies out of your range -.- because you need to stand still

Then it happens underwater stage >.< (to tell the truth post underwater buff i have still to try but before ele was just a moving target).

not to mention harpy stage and many other were neither D/D nor staff are usable…
But my faves are veteran warriors in ascalon…

I mean they are trash mobs, i just WAIT someone other to get aggro i go in the middle with my 75 sec CD combo, pop up armor of earth (knight set also) and BAMMM 12.000 damage… O___o

A toughness set + armor of earth => 12.000 dmg? really?

@Kyiv
No nobody think they were “playing the game”

Analog situations already happened in most mmorpgs, and they were exploits and bannable offense.

If you find a formula that makes you get more than you use and its clearly broken, you have to cntact support asap.

If you instead decide to profit despite you know you are damaging economy (and the game for other players) for a personal profit, you deserve to be punished.

Word play cannot hide that nobody will think ppl that abused this bug, didn t do knowing it wasn t legit.
That is just a pretentious excuse….

Doesn anyone thinks that making 100G in a day is legit?

i don t think so.

If you make your time extremely moreprofitable than it should be (without rng factor) then you know you are not only abusing the system but also damaging other players…

But possibly those people thinks only to theimselves…..

I don t think that people who got 400G in few days can hide behind any excuse….
They perfectly knew what they were doing…

They would deserve at least to lose all their money or even better have their account rollbacked to a week ago……

Bunzy.8674:

Mesmers, Thieves, Elementalists are not afraid of 1v1s, everyone else has a right to be.

a staff ele is very afraid of 1VS1…..currently.

D/D ele can just 1VS1……
its what its meant for….

Under the wall: useless
Over the wall: useless
Between zergs: almost useless

His role is to defend siege machines in open fields (not alone) and to defeat/defend supplies.

For sure you cannot survive a 3 or 4 VS1 unless opponents are clueless (see vids where people focus on earth elemental .____.) and you are even against classes built for the same purpose.

The problem is that most classes are built for other purposes so you can at least beat them 1VS1 in the only role you built for…… i.e. open field dueling in small groups.

p.S. also class people run from more often is indeed Necromancer :P prove me wrong…

some stealth players just thinks that successfully killing a player requires skill for them….
Well its probably so….

Yet in a pvp game (www) a huge factor is not taken in account with stealth….
I.E. opponent skill. (PvP means a battle of skills, its not PvE……so your opponent have to be given a chance to react)

Someoene posted that human reaction is something about 110 to 240 millisec….
Despite it may be so, as an ex competitive fighting game player i can say that in a game you need more than half a second to really react….+ double the geographic latency time…..getting really near the whole second…

-You have to see what s happening*
-geo latency
-You have to understand and think a proper reaction
-you have to input proper reaction*
-geo latency again

*reaction time tests only takes these 2 in acount, and both are reduced because you expect an event you know, and have only one button to press.

that makes most thieves unreactable…
You ask to play on prediction….and that is where 99% games fails at competitive level….when they think playing on prediction is a viable method.

It becomes a matter of luck…

Now if stealth is vitall to thieves, lets just remove it and compensate strongly with another mechanic…..but the real thing is we all are accustomed to see nerfs without compensation so we fear any patch…..

Oglaf.1074:

Princess Wand > All

i agree

Just because its the only decent scepter skin in the game…..for people that doesn t like scepters :P (infact is a wand…..)

Also is awesome on charrs

Neutro.3079:

7. Ascalon. Too easy and a bit too short imo.

-vets that deals 10.000 dmg in 1 hit (total 20.000 + in less than a sec and wasn t 1hb)
-boss just oneshot anything .-. and has huge agony aoe…..

I know many of you are overgeared with 30 AR at lvl 20, but that doesn t mean you don t have to take agony attacks in account….

Tear of grenth, a dagger craftable in the mystic forge, cannot be preview, aalso doesn t show in hero screen.

Also the point is in the wrong direction comparing to any other dagger.

I really love the quaggans mini….and i know i won t be able to afford one….

But as long as gem shop offers things only aesthetic, its fine for me…..despite i won t be able to get most of them

The problem related is that item related to game are tied to gems…

-Istant canister rerpair kit (fotm >__>)
-Black lion salvage kit
-also Fine trasmutation stones (because even if they are for aesthetic purposes they are too important).

On the other side i don t think the quality of the game is related to the money we spend on gems….

Infact i consider the game got slightly worse since the release date due to wrong marketing moves related somehow to incomes…..but this is an opinion.

swamp tree is quite annoying due to the huge damage attack…

It puts an aoe on the ground but it get hidden often or even worse you don t have time to evade it.

Jade maw remains the easiest….at least because several bugs can get you stuck if you die.

But cliffside stage, dredge and graw should be tuned down imho.

I still have to figure out:
skins obtained by ugly gear have a duration?

but just to ask, the skin bought for socks etc by the christmas vendor have a limited duration?
there is a bell also if i remember correctly.

i just use D/D and switch to staff almost only on few bosses

But for example i am at 20 and use D/D on all cliffside.

Kardiamond.6952:

@LordByron

I want to see that.

With Necro/Ranger, he won’t have the escape mecanism. He won’t have the crazy healing. DS for necro don’t work well vs zerg. Ranger don’t have much damage mitigation ether.

I would love to see Daphenix prove me wrong, just show me what you can do with a non-FTOM class.

He actually took the class considered most underpowered and developed current D/D build……so i bet he could do the same with necros and rangers.

the wrong point is taking as an example of anything one of the best ele players known on the forum and compare with …..5 players attacking an earth elemental…..

Against a mesmer would be even worst they would attack illusions….

Its clearly a good player in the midst of a confused battlefield, using the same at his advantage.

If opponent focused at him despite his skill he would never be able to survive that much but if you see opponents target whatever they see without trying any tactic.

Now think at this also:

A D/D ele arrives near walls during a fight…….
What can he do?
Ranger can shut down siege machines……..nerf ranger.

ELE D/D is playing in one of 2 zergs that faces….
How on earth is he supposed to get past long range crossing fire?

ELE D/D is just a good build for mostly dueling…..
Thing that is quite rare in www
Same class has lot of downsides and counterbuilds

So Skill matters, and i don t think this is wrong, 99% ele players cannot do the same.

P.S:for permaeverything u said there are at least 3 classes that cando the same (included the one you play) ….that because of some runes…..they can nerf them anytime for me….if you get 30-50% duration from runes there is a problem.

Also its mostly swiftness……might stack and others require you to stay alone and spam skills ….dont exaggerate as ever…

P.S: but the best things about this is that still i have to see any solid fact to support a nerf request……
I dn t see numbers, i don t see build analysis(real build not 150 traits with 4 weapons)
Nothing at all….

Kardiamond.6952:

I wish my Ranger/Necro/Engineer had a build that could kill newbs in 1 vs 10.

since 50% of WvW population is newb, it would make wonders!

Edit for Mike Hell : Well maybe TankCat Engineer :P PRYBAAAAR

he could probably kill newbs as well with your ranger/necro/eng.
Its not the build…actually…

I cannot survive a 3VS1, sometimes i survive 2VS1 (survive >_>)…..

What Can We Learn From This WvW Video?

1)Its bad to focus 5 players on an earth elemental u.u (he will disappear way before you can kill it, also its quite useless and slow….even a glass cannon can ignore it).

2)also to not summon an earth elemental in www unless your opponent are clueless on the class ._.

3) that guy is really skilled….his opponents…. well see 1 *

4) use stuns etc against ele…..(he can cleanse some but that requires time and it would prevent him to run away).

P.S. i play ele since release.
I cannot do what he did…he is really skilled despite i met always more competent opponents in www…

• P.P.S: noticed just now the name:
  ok if you know who he is, as ele players do you’d know why he is so skilled

i never ask particular classes…..

But when i play with a guardian (well not every guardian just some builds) the game is easier.

Has to be said that:
-ranger
-mesmer
-thief
-engineer

Are great too for other purposes…
Also some warrior builds __

I just want one of any ._., well btw a good guardians makes life simpler for everyone.

25% i think i read somewhere (not sure if intended or not)….
Also seems guardians swiftness is more effective….maybe they use some sort of traits for that, but ele swiftness seems slower than swiftness applied on ele by some guardians.

yet i’ve still to outrun someone due to swiftness ._.

It ust be told also that to keep pera swiftness you have to waste key spells that leaves you defenceless in case of battle.

Air3 and the healing ….

I don t think any players near a battlefield use permaswiftness….

Out of battle and far from it, it may be useful.

just to ask (still able to stack any amount of swiftness with rune of the pack).

What on earth swiftness is useful for? considering as you are engaged in battle its disabled?

lol :

this is also quite tanky…

any other thief wants to complain about D/D?

muscarine.5136:

Oh right, i’m a noob OP stealth thief, and i lie about using P/P.

Care to entertain me more ?

Where is the part where you explain to me what’s wrong with me sayin too – much – synergie and access to too – much -pressure because of the association of defense, mobility and low rotation CD allowing for it ?

Simply:

-attunements rotation is ele downside design to compensate for having 20 skills…..
You say ele is OP because of low rotation CD.

-ele CD are the longest of any class

-ele n1 problem have always been lack of sinergy

defense is not superior to any class we simply have few more healings BUT that have to deal with attunement downside and at expenses of dmg.

pressure with/on a tanky build is non existent…..look at numbers….

You can burst only a full glasscannon and still it will take a lot to kill him (infact look at your forum how all thieves are able to escape…)….as a tank you won t be able to kill any decent tank
Can you stop now?

i could go on commenting any of your statements that are always kept vague on purpose just because its clear you ldon t know eles…but its a waste of time…

farewell..

p.S. thieves are complaining about bunker eles…
Other were complaining about staff ele…..i couldn t understand why, because i ignored the bug on evasive arcana at that time (i was using a cantrip balanced build)….that is no more now….

Skills alone are not OP i never talked about a single OP skill for crying out loud, i know my english is not that great but i don’t think i’m creating any confusion here, can you understand the meaning of too – much – synergie and access to too – much -pressure because of the association of defense, mobility and low rotation CD allowing for it

Thief players >_< omg
Nerf greatsword elementalist……his hundred blades skill is too strong…

Third time you proved you have no idea of what you re talking….gratz

I’ll answer for last time…
Why so many D/D ele in pvp?
They are a counter to players of a certain OP skill called stealth…..

Less thieves = less D/D eles….

Note that almost only thieves complain about D/D ele….because they have a 50% (should be 100%) chance to make them pay for their mistakes…..before they can reset the battle.

Also previous staff players were forced to go D/D being overnerfed.

And i still think we are all losing time we could use to get better or maybe learn how professions works checking at least the wiki for few minutes…..

Or you can just check your forum were good players already posted how to face your counterclass.

Mostly because you never see even there a post like “i was killed by a D/D ele” but instead “i couldn t kill a D/D ele….i had to use stealth to flee after many minutes…”

Instead you can read any other class say “stealth let thieves reset battle whenever they want”……(hint And while you flee to reset your skills your opponent resets too but that is outrageous u.u for a thief" and that is how you wrote the absurdities i quoted…" you woulnd t even write them if you were really using pistols or a stun build…).

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Ryuujin.8236:

YPC.6349:

Problem: Everypony love Twilight.

You ARE the problem of inflating price. Other precursors except dawn(another twilight) and the legend are below your 100-200g range.

This. Very few precursors are actually in the 100-200g bracket.

Some are as low as 20-30g. When people say they can’t afford a precursor, what they really mean is they can’t afford a precursor greatsword

The ones that are cheap are mostly underwater precursors.

I’m not sure why no one wants those, but I have my suspicions (they can’t be seen on land, so you can’t show them off in town to feel superior to the unwashed masses, which seems to be the reason most people want a legendary these days)

no its that most classes are horribly bad underwater and a legendary won t help….

They decided to make legendary top tier forever…so i decided to try to start to build an incinerator (i really hate the skin also -.- possibly the worst legendary….) i would never thougt of it if it weren t for at least having one less concern every major patch…

Btw i won t be able to get 250 gold for the precursor possibly ever unless i start farming orr like a bot…..if this is even still possible.

muscarine.5136:

Hopeless… One last time, if you weren’t a self righteous no-need-to-discuss-knows-already type of guy you would realize i made my own arguments on the subject.

Anyway i’ll just wait a month or so when enough cool kids will be rolling d/d eles and the forum with flow with tears, then the actual discussion will probably have a chance to start.

wont happen they already stated D/D needs more love, and despite we got side nerfs that was addressed to staff eles……they buffed D/D as they could.

If you want to discuss posts some numbers and facts….i did say that who posted the build in this thread is a troll….

Not that you are wrong…..
Despite the post you did had few incongruences and 0 numbers….and that wasn t enough for discussing.

Just check this to start with something…

Many thieves starting complaining about D/D ele (they have problems with D/D being mobile and preventing them to easily land their skills),…..

Their first reaso is always …i can’t kill tank D/D eles…..
But the easy point is:

D/D ele couldn t kill them either…..…..
A tanky D/D ele has really low dmg…..i use a precision D/D ele and cannot do remotely the same damage as a tanky warrior…..and i’m not as tanky for sure…..

D/D ele is either a bad tank (but at least playable) or a BAD glasscannon (this imho is really a bad build)….

Just look at vids in AC soloing of guardian and ele….

Ele kites, evade, heals when he almost die…..(risk), guardian facetank ._.

That is the basic of the problem…..ele teaches you to evade/kites etc…..and any video posted until now proofs that quite well.

If you get a vid of a bad ele winning a 1VS1 against a good player, then we have a problem….

Semprenaviguare.2936:

Combo of 2 elementalist :

Bump of firsty elementalist and 4 fire .

second elementalist glass canon
teleporte + 5earth .

18K mesmer 16k voleur 14k guardien + 8 stack on condition on 8 secondes ( 5000 if not dispell ) . critique sur 5 earth on 3 player + 2 burst arcane .
brume on guardien , and finsih mesmer and thief with aoe and condition , not loose time for stomp .

10 secondes
2 elementaliste vs 3 player down en maxi 10 secondes . .

another post from him:

This topic is a troll !

With elementaliste you can make too +100K
5 fire .

with scenar situation .

Ele forum is obviusly under trolls attack…check always post history …..and don t feed them.

@suicide….many ele don t even use lightning flash……that should answer your question….
Just roll as you would do against any slow skill or interrupt the caster….its the reason i use armr of earth instead of lightning flash.

muscarine.5136:

You guys are clueless, enough is to say, aside from the reflect projectiles which i told i made a mistake, i made my point.

If you can’t bother to read it, don’t bother wasting any more words, thanks ~

Now please find yourselves some other head to hunt, or at least bring in some argument other than ololol 150pts builds lol

nice try but no….
i m tired of quoting and reorganizing info for lazy players……..

Check this whole section and you’ll found for yourself this thread shouldn t even exist….

And this due to facts not opinions….
We are talking of non existent skills, traits and builds…..(also with clear proofs of trolling intent).

This thread should’ve been locked after first post for that reason…..
Without even questioning if ele is OP or not……

The point should be discussed maybe with real facts and stat not starting from a troll disinformation….

@typingofthedead
AoE = advantage
Being locked in short range with a LIGHT/low HP class = huge drawback

its the same reason why HundredBlades is not a 1200 range skill….we cannot even deal the same damage as other melee….and most of all i could sum other drawbacks…….for example the long cooling time of skills that punish you if something distract you from rotation…..

People never takes drawbacks in account… .-.

Kethryes.5712:

Thank you for the good laugh!

FYI the loot tables a modifiable yes… associated with the monsters/chests/whatever, thus affecting everyone when modified. There is no way they would have created loot tables associated to each player. No point and way too much work.

Edit: Now that I think about it, they could apply to you a permanent DR debuff actually…

But seriously, unless you have a personal ennemy who is dev at Anet, they are not even going to waste 2 minutes to do such a pointless thing when they have much more important things to do.

Also when you “hear people have drop 7-8 rings out of 9 runs”, well they didn’t. Just lying / exagerating. Otherwise if we believe what people says, the karka event should have droped around 200 000 precursors and their price would be 2g each now.

actually i think that drop rate for rings is really high…and i could believe to anyone saying they got 7 out of 9 runs….

i get 1 every 2 ._. (well i got just 1 that suits me, but for AR purpose they are fine u.u).

They are account bound btw.

I think the drop rate is something like 30-40% that may lead to some really unfortunate players and some really lucky…..

For that i hate RNG as most of us…….(despite i have 7-8 rings .-.).

muscarine.5136:

Hey trolls, read the whole conversation before you troll.

before even trying

Check yourself the build….
That is serious trolling (check ele Bug section please, also ele skill section)…
Aside the fact that what poster says its impossible due to raw number.

Also check profile of the poster….
Its just a thief trolling but unfortunately he doesn t even know game basics (i mean he did mistake that even a D/D thief should avoid…see sigils).

Its like saying…hey they should nerf greatsword elementalist…its so OP….
.__.
Actually a thief already did someting like this a week ago….
Affirming D/D ele is op because his invulnerability skills are too long

Sometimes there are proofs about trolls…. >.>

i’d say just a thing…..

Check profiles of people asking for nerfs…..
just for a quick credibility check >.>

muscarine.5136:

Bsquared.3421:

…says the thief about his counter class….

This goes along with being able to dispel most conditions, reflect projectiles, resist interrupts and that horrible ice shield that stacks frost for kittening ever.

See i’m not saying it’s easy mod, i’m actually saying it’s godmod placed in the right hands.

What O___o lol….
I suppose ele you met had a build Dagger/dagger/scepter/Staff

An ele with 4 arms is indeed OP

i don’t think so.

I was one of the most disgusted (and still am) with the new tierS introduced (many more than one people haven t realized yet).

I had some problems to get a ring at first, but now i have maybe 8 ._.

I think something in rng is not working properly because i hear most people struggle to get one and after the first, they get a lot…but its not flagging.

Guy sstop feeding trolls

Can’t mod do something about thiefs pretending to play eles?
check posters profile…..

Also that build is based on 3 non working traits/skills etc (not to mention that in any way that build can do decent dmg and cannot use most combos either).

So its an obvious trolling………..

I could agree on mist form ressing in www as well as other skills from other classes like mesmers, thiefs to tell 2 that can do similar things…..

Rock/paper/scissors le are strong against classes who requires your opponent to stand still i.e. thiefs….so instead of using another build (stun) who completely destroys D/D they pretend to use elementalist……

p.S. your answer also is:
last 3 patches we got buffs….that means something….
Also to quote Anet for PvE:

Well, not so much. You have to watch their play and what they are doing – not the specific skills they are using. If a player can just spam a skill standing still in front of lupicus and not really display any game mechanic knowledge, then that’s probably something we’re going to look into, as it would seem pretty unbalanced IMO. If a player is dodg rolling, swapping weapons, utilizing utilities, and reacts really well, then there’s nothing really we would do to stop that. If a video displays all the qualities of highly skilled players, then we’re more proud than anything. At least I’m a bit proud that is :p

Now in pvp a certain class can spam a skill standing still (guess wich)
Another instead dodges, evades, moves etc…..

But the first class has the right to beat the second because otherwise its OP.

Ask a mesmer if they struggle against a D/D ele of same skill.

kohler pull is not a problem….
His standard attack is a huge problem for a D/D ele… >.> dunno how he managed to survive…..kohler is fast and close range really quick, is immune to all ele crowd control spells so kiting is impossible.

I usually die by his standard attack if i have to tank him for too long…..

Spider queen ie easier if tyou survive spiders…

they had issues to deal u dmg you in moa form >.<

Nerf bunker moa is OP!!

• Earth Magic 10 ( III ) Earths Embrace
• Arcane 30 (V) Elemental Attunement (IV) Final Shielding ( IX ) Evasive Arcana

from elementalist forum (provided screenshot and posted the bug myself MONTHS AGO)

Earth’s Embrace — Function bug
Triggers at around 25-30% HP instead of 50%.

Final Shielding — Function bug
Triggers at around10% instead of 25%. May also be bypassed entirely if too much burst is applied.

Weapons
•Dagger (Superior Blood Lust)
•Dagger ( Superior Life )

1 of them won t trigger afaik……(may be wrong on this…please confirm)

Proofs this is a troll.

P.S. for non elementalist….those bugs makes both traits 100% useless they won t even trigger or leave you so low on health to be oneshot by anything or by a single tick condition…
The build also hasn t the tools to put out combos…..

P.P.S. also you can check his profile to see where is actually posting..
Not seen a post on ele subforum but a lot defending thiefs along the board……
And its not the first thief who ask for ele nerfs saying absurdities…..
ELE D/D is counter (not even so strong) to thiefs and few other burst builds, for that we had already lot ppl pretending to use ele (check ALL 3 threads asking nerfs for eles) with similar posts so we can legitimately have doubts…..

SuicideStan.1953:

Good idea about posting in the bug forum.

As for LF working while channeling other abilities I hope that isn’t a bug and it is working as intended. It works great!

Its not a bug

Lightning flash is a cantrip.
Its exactly what cantrips do…

Cantrip is a skill type exclusive to elementalists that enhances the character’s survivability. They all activate instantly, even in the middle of another skill activation without interrupting it, and break from stun.

well 75-50% form seems bugged as well
Huge AoE agony 4-5 times in a row is too much, u cannot even ress any downed before he does at least other 2 aoe…

a question:
Wich other class punish you for an incorrect rotation of skills?
And also for an incorrect judgement on opponent?

If you miss your combo, you enter wrong attunement or use the wrong skill, you are cut out of your efficiency for even a minute and possibly dead…

Its not even mechanical….unless you are playing in full exo in a lvl 1 area…

That again because you NEED to adapt even in PvE (not to mention www).
Add that you need spacing perfectly and lot more inputs…

Its not impossible to play for sure, but its harder than almost any other class, and anyone playing an ele decently has no doubt about it…

Ele expecially D/D can just remember when they die and they are not oneshot, how they died……no other proof needed.

The bug happens only at 10+ it seems
Workaround:
bring the battle on the front right area…

There despite having the room full of vets you can face the boss AND maximum 4-5 fanatics as i think is intended to work (others will stay passive in the room until u pass by >.>)

Hoping anet won’t patch the only chance to finish the fractal……..

At least it worked yesterday at lvl 12

does tear of grenth have any effect?
i can t seem to find any decent pic of that dagger