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true we dont have a true democraty but heck i will dare you to find one in our world as there is no democraty in the real world to there is something called representive democraty tho(you elect some people to do the job of the population),
Smaller communities and organizations can and do work that way. It’s called direct democracy.
why are they spiteing humans by also being prt of the communety? thats what i dont understand.
Because Legions placing their own military encampments and bases there for no other reason than to be there would look very suspect. The Legions practice realpolitik and they wouldn’t do something like that just to “join the ‘communety’”.
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Thanks for the responses.
Also yea…The Living Story vs Personal Story continuity bothers me as well.
Ele just isn’t all that great for PvE. Bunkering is still just about the strongest thing an ele can do, but that is largely a waste of time in pve. Bunkering revolves around kittening around and winning an attrition battle.
I tried this, but there is a huge flaw with it. That would be the fact that mobs respawn so f***ing fast. I literally have killed a mob looted it and had another spawn right in front of me, on multiple occasions.
That’s what happens when you spec to hit like a wet noodle.
Exactly, and a human from ebonhawke that lived trough the siege would probably never be running so friendly with a charr (which I do believe is reflected in the fact that if you run as a charr in ebonhawke every few steps you get a “XXX insults and threatens you” message).
Or the Heart in lower Blazeridge where you have to mediate conflicts between Ebon guards and Legion soldiers who are supposed to be working together.
Heck, outside of PC’s, how many Legion soldiers are wandering around Kryta?
But the war between humans and charr had mostly been in a standstill at ebonhawke for hundreds of years by the time of the ghosts of ascalon novel (which is 1 year before GW2 and its end marks the beggining of the peace talks). As long as ebonhawke held, humans in krytan territories and in divinity’s reach hadn’t really been threatened by charr attacks, which was for several generations by the time GW2 started, and I’d bet they feel centaurs as a more present threat than charr would ever be.
The war was at a standstill, but it wasn’t like they didn’t still live under siege.
Also that might be the case for humans living far from Charr lands but those nearby are the ones who suffered continually against the Charr and by proximity would be the ones having to deal with whatever Human-Charr agreements are created the most.
Also, in the Destiny’s Edge novel, which happens 6 years before the events in GW2 (IIRC), Logan, Rytlock and Caithe, finding themselves in Lion’s Arch, plan on each taking an asura gate to their respective cities (the Asura Gate to Ebonhawke was built during that novel, but was destroyed by kralkatorrik so they had to rebuild it again), so even if the war was still going on then the idea of humans and charr living on one place in peace wasn’t foreign to humans, since they did have a direct connection between Divinity’s Reach and Lion’s Arch (and the Black Citadel) which were frequently used by travelers.
Charr that weren’t in a Legion sure or were Ash undercover. How many Blood, Flame, or Iron legionnaires would have been fine with it?
The Charr’s problem is their society.
Which is why I don’t see it as something so weird to see humans (non ebonhawkean, at least) and charr fighting together.
This doesn’t have anything to do with “Yea, I could see a situation where humans and Charr fight together” but “Yea, Charr were pretty darn despicable for centuries, I can’t see myself liking them anytime soon.”
This strikes me as like believing Germans (yes I am in invoking godwens law) are the bad guys for ever and ever because of WW2 and no one at the time could have had a different veiw other than that of the kitten dogma.
Trying to equate Charr society to a Human one is kitten silly.
No society like it bar maybe the Spartans comes close to the kind of universal military dogmatism that define the Charr.
Your analogy is also all kinds of wrong as well. It’s not like saying “all Germans were bad”. It’s like saying “All SS were bad” and those guys, those guys were.
It would be a bit different if it weren’t for that fact that every Charr in the Legions was also a soldier and since they weren’t divided between “dogmatic barbarians” and “Soldiers doing their job” like the SS vs the majority of the Wehrmacht, your analogy fails. Hard.
You can replace that with any country or group that has ever done something horrific to another or had bad leadership and a not particularly nice culture…which is pretty much everywhere at some point in time.
Not applicable to the Charr due to how their culture works. The only ones able to escape that heritage are those that kitten’d off elsewhere away from the Legions.
Of course this is fantasy so everyone expects the “for teh evils!” race and I’m pretty sure that’s what the Charr were first intended as but it’s nice to break away for that a bit and flesh them out more. I suppose this prosecuting of an entire race rather than individuals actions and being unable to move on from past crimes is why war perpetuates itself in real life.
They’re still violent, flat, uninteresting outside of their alien society and supremacist.
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Does Elder Dragon energy work that way? A direct feeder into his minions that is fundamental in their structure instead of being part of the Elder Dragon’s control over the minion?
I’m a bit new on lore but don’t all dragons absorb magic? It might be possible that Tequatl is just the biggest sponge there and would thus be able to absorb the largest amount of released magics.
At that do we know how magic Zhaitan had absorbed would be released? Would it only seep out but largely remained infused with the corpse, only degrading over time or would it be released into the world like a popping balloon?
more scarlet story…. BLEEEEEEEEH. That character is already as boring as a twig.
She is the Disney villain that goes, “muahahahahha, I’m sooo evil! I love destruction and chaos.”
Holy, can your writer write something more mature or complex character? Anti – hero or whatever?
Scarlet’s problem is more in the writing of the dialogue and presentation.
It seems if Anet tried to make an anti-hero we’d get a brooding edgy whiner of a character.
Queen’s Jubilee (yearly anniversary).
Not all anniversaries are jubilees. A jubilee celebrates a milestone anniversary, like for example for Jenna it was her 10th anniversary. You also have 25th, 50th, 100th etc in that kind of fashion.
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Leveling ele gets easy once you hit 40 and can effectively use Lightning Hammers.
Hell, tanking multiple vets becomes braindead easy at that point.
Being human is boring.
I as well find resilience in the face of extinction boring.
I think people are not really letting the gravity of the Human situation sink in here; and that’s darn-near extinction.
That and with the war ending not so long ago, I think it’s far, far too soon for humans and charr to be running around as chummy as they do. It doesn’t make sense imho.
Well, the war ended up a year ago (and really you do get a bit of yelling at you if you run as a charr in ebonhawke), but there were charr and humans (and norn and asura) already living in peace in Lion’s Arch for several years by then.
Humans in Ebonhawke have had a MUCH different experience and life than those who are corsairs and live in Lions Arch.
Do I have to make a comparison of the difference of perspective between Americans and Russians or something to make it clearer?
I think people are not really letting the gravity of the Human situation sink in here; and that’s darn-near extinction.
That and with the war ending not so long ago, I think it’s far, far too soon for humans and charr to be running around as chummy as they do. It doesn’t make sense imho.
it was a couple of centuries ago and also DRAGONS
WOW! I didn’t know that Ebonhawke and the Charr have been at peace for centuries!
GAIZ THIS CHANGES EVERYTHANG!!!!!
Question: Is there a specific difference between a Shaman and any other kind of magic user? It seems like a separate subset of magic user.
did he take over Zhaitan’s position as the head of the Risen? and get a power upgrade?
I lean toward this as a strong possibility until we get confirmation.
Do Elder Dragons get replaced like that?
My number one reason is…
Because after all the crap your character/Humans go through in GW1, how could I ever be happy playing as something that single-handedly decimated the Human race? Plus I had ( and still have ) an odd fascination with killing them over and over and over again. Even here in GW2.
Ask Jaw Smokeskin, Blaze Bloodbane, Ghast Ashy-poo, and ole’ Red Eye. They hated me, and I them.
Those are some of the better reasons to play a charr. You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?
And the Charr took all of their land from someone else before that, your point?
Also your talking about the difference between being driven out of a territory and committing mass genocide and torture.
Get to level 40 and switch to the Lightning Hammer build.
That quite literally turned everything around.
Before then learn how to use D/D. Lightning Whip is a really solid Auto-Attack.
i gess most will agree that with a high chance of proberbilty it will be a democracy with the races living there represented in some way or a counsil of represintetives of the races living there.
but i think we have established a rule that says what race will get orr and arguments for and agienst it, as that removes the easy way out.
Highly Doubtful.
Is there even a single democracy in Tyria?
I’m not sure Lion’s Arch counts as it’s essentially an Oligarchy of the strongest captains. The recent event seems more like a recent trend.
Anyway it will probably likely be majority Sylvari and Human. They’re the only ones with any reason to populate Orr before it is fully cleaned up. The cleaning up bit will attract many Sylvari and there will be many humans, Orrians and Followers of the Six both, who are attracted to clean it up. Asura will show up but about in the numbers they show up elsewhere, in their isolated Krewe’s. Norn aren’t big on warm places but will probably move through in small numbers looking for challenges, same with individual Charr. I’m just not seeing a reason why Orr wouldn’t be majority Human/Sylvari by the time it is fully cleansed.
Dinosaurs needed what, 30 seconds, just to realize their tail has been already bitten off?
Was there some sort of clinical trials for this?
Recently I’ve been bouncing around the idea in my head of fully traiting a line unlocking a “form”.
Such as we have the Auramancer so to speak now with the 30pt Arcana build.
Generically speaking now that would be things like “Fire Form”, “Water Form”, “Air Form”, etc but with better names. These would unlock a whole slew of spells for our weapons that you could set and swap like we do utilities. That way we could use F1-F4 for switching attunements and then “`” for switching between the spell options.
Obviously there would have to be some kind of large large once we go into a form, say 20 seconds before you can switch again? You would also be limited to a total number of 10 spells in your “form” (5 spells in each set you would swap between). That way Eles could at least have the intended effect swapping attunements was supposed to provide and we could simply morph for different encounters with what we have equipped rather than dropping out of combat to change weapons.
EDIT: To clarify what I’m thinking. We would swap attunements as normal with the skills we have now with our regular “F1-F4” swaps but be able to “double tap” into a form if we have that unlocked. For example, say you have 30pts in Air. You could swap to air attunement and then simply hit F3 again to enter “Air Form” where all of your attunement options then go on long cooldown but you now have your (largely) customized 10 skills that you use the weapon swap mechanics other classes get to utilize. Personally I like the idea, I want to be able to actually focus an element.
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I wanted to add only to prove the underwhelming delivery of our personal stories.
Trahearne should be our puppet, our sidekick, our fodder that we can use to save ourselves during our personal story.
Not. Our. Leakitten lease have him stand down from the leader role and hand us his sword. I would much rather lead my troop into battle than him.
Exactly because he is your puppet he has to be the commander. If things go bad, he’ll take responsibility.
It would be cool if you gave him orders and remembered him that he is Grand Marshal as long as we need him.
I want him to refer to me as “Supreme Commander of Allied Pact Forces in Greater Tyria” or some other such long impressive sounding title.
easily soloable
Everyone has a different definition of this this term, something also tells me that you’ve went through the story on a heavy armor class character, the light armor class is such a different take on the game where you do die so much more often in the story.
The problem is not so much with the difficulty but more with ANET’s design where they like to overwhelm you with numbers, be it health %, damage % or sheer numbers – this has existed in the original GW too.
What also adds to the problem is that in this game you never ever really feel powerful, unlike traditional mmorpgs you can over level, and in each new zone/stage you visit you tend to more powerful than your foes – with the scaling (which makes you significantly more weaker if you over level and don’t wear that current level gear), you fall over much more often and frequent that you’d expect… especially when the NPC’s call you “hero” and given you their highest rank in the 3 factions….
What adds to the problem is “legendary” heroes like Caithe and Rytlock lying knocked out for 80% of a fight whilst I kite around an enemy. I am definitely the most powerful person in the world when the heroes of the fabled Destiny’s Edge can’t stay alive.
I’m not sure why but Logan’s rushing ahead to die first always makes me laugh the hardest…he’s just so eager to face plant…
Anyone else wondering how the PS is going to work with a “living world” and “living story”?
As it is, what’s going to happen to the current PS when they can’t keep Zhaitan and his minions named and referenced all over the place after he’s been defeated lorewise? So confus.
The Scarlet events are fun. But they still suffer from one design flaw that plagues the game since day 1 : the event rewards are crap compared to mobs loot. So players prefer to farm the mobs that spawn (especially the champions in this case) instead of actually completint the event.
If they could just remove all aetherblades/molten events as soon as their morale bar are depleted, it would already help a lot.
This. This was the major problem with the implementation of the event. It’s much more profitable to farm mobs than to complete the event. It should be majorly the other way around.
I, as well, don’t like doing damage.
The dailies are too much, even for hardcore players.
I just had two friends quit the game within the past week because they could not afford to spend 2-4 hours every single day to get all dailies done. These friends were both hardcore – one with 12501 AP and other with 10339 AP.
I know people will say “You don’t HAVE to do all the dailies”. But, the truth is hardcore players will try to stay on the rankings and will try to do all of them every day.
I think a possible solution for this is to cap the PvE dailies at 10AP/day. This would let the game have more of the advertised “play how you want” feel.
New thread, old topic.
2-4 hours? No offense, but if a daily is taking 2hrs+, then a “hardcore” player they are not.
But granted, if my playstyle required 2hrs+ to finish a daily, I’d burn out too…. and the daily would be the least of my gripes.
Read again, they aren’t spending 2-4 hours to do the 5 dailies to get the chest. They are spending 2-4 hours daily COMPLETING ALL OF THE DAILY CHALLENGES. That means EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
Honestly the problem is with them though. They need to learn to cull their addiction to seeing big numbers.
The ele in gw2 is a druid in wow, but shhhht, it’s a secret.
Lies! My ele is not a furry!
event tracker websites.
Do they track the events when they start?
Eeehhhhhh, tbh, I find the idea of running up to a dragon and whacking it with a sword/other melee weapon/regular skills silly. I mean, why does it even land to fight you? It just needs to coast out of range and bomb your bidepal kitten. It’s a freaking dragon, not a half brained Skritt going “OH SHINY” at your weapons and shoving its face in them.
It should be a real combined effort of players on Airships wearing it down and then when it is down players have to mark targets on it with an environmental weapon for Asuran cannons to fire at it from range. That would be a much more epic and unique fight that would truly be multi-stage and multi-awesome.
I think you need some fresh air.
Also this is just hilarious.
I’d be for this, what about also letting it have some interactivity like say when you start the fire you can set food on it people can get for bonuses.
you know technically Quaggans have the largest brains and in theory with brain size to intelligence ratio they should be the smartest race on Tyria. =)
Brain size isn’t everything, it depends on the size of specific parts.
Yes those cities are generally hard to take…but they fall nonetheless such as Byzantium(now Istanbul) with the largest thickest walls in existence being taken over by the Turkish army
Byzantium fell because it was literally the only part of the empire left. If all of Kryta was just divinities reach and an invader only had to sit around an pound them for weeks and months on end with no threat of a counter then yea, any defense will fall.
I would love more dynamic weather.
But have it more differentiated between “good weather”/“bad weather”.
Have early morning fogs in areas where there is surface water like lakes or rivers. Have the sun traverse the sky. Make the clouds a bit more dynamic, we should have times when it is sunny and times when it is overcast. I also await seasons, please let us have seasons.
Reread his complaints. It’s not the story it’s the continuity. It’s that after you complete the acts it doesn’t matter in the slightest as those people essentially disappear.
Not sure what ICE is but most of what they have is steam and clockwork. I recall evidence of a low level of electric use but I can’t recall what that evidence is now. either way, it isn’t very prominent. Perhaps due to clockworks durability and reliability.
ICE = Internal Combustion Engine
I did pretty much the same as Kodiak, survivability is going to be a little tough early on so just get used to kiting and paying attention to your surroundings and CDs.
Do Charr have ICE’s or is everything Steam?
Hmmm, what if instead of tying the Attunement Recharge solely to Arcana it was such that putting points in one of the others would reduce the Attunement recharge of that specific element. For example, stacking 30 points in fire could drop the Attunement recharge from 15s to 5s (make it -.33s every skill point). This would allow people to focus down the elements they want and still make Attunement Swapping viable without having to devote a lot of points to Arcana, but at the same time they would be limited to switching back to their focused elements. I’m just not sure what to do with Arcana otherwise (keep the Attunement Recharge but have the Recharge cap at 5s?). There’s probably some huge gaping hole I’m missing in this though as I’m just a noob using hammers to level.
Whoa whoa whoa, Stargate references….why don’t we have shields over the gates yet like in SG-1? Let them all try to materialize in the sliver between the gate and the shield.
OMG we have a dredge here
No Dredge comrade, why would you say Dredge?
This is not of Dredge, only good surface dweller.
I primarily use SB but have S/P for when fighting singular mobs or a handful together where I don’t want trick shot to accidentally hit a non-aggro’d mob. Seems to be a pretty solid PvE compliment so far (lvl 21).
I still think Kiel is an asuran puppet btw.
Comrade, we are all but cogs in great communist society.
Wait, I’m getting my games mixed up.
Let the glorified mole people play with their trinkets and theories. Practicality inevitably rules the day.
…the charr looked more advanced in terms of war technology…
Charr society is entirely about war though, so it’s a given that they would appear deficient in every other technological aspect.
Why is nobody asking the more important question . . . ?
Why does that thing have a feminine shape up to and including, er, curves?
Because the designer had a libido?
This confirms my suspicions that maybe Logan Thackery has been a robot all along. It would explain a lot.
No one has a jawline that perfect, no one.
Fully agree with the OP. If they’d move dailies to be weeklies instead that would be a big step forward. That way you could keep AP gain the same as now, with more freedom to each player to do tasks when they got the time / feel like doing them.
As it is now, you have certain dailies pop up only occasionally. Like, do a story dungeon. If you happen to want to do one on that very day, you get rewarded with an AP. Do it any other day of the week – out of luck. That is poor design.
I gotta agree with this poster. If they are time-gating to limit speed grinders and give parity to casuals then there’s still better ways to do it. Daily is inflexible for when situations similar to the above occur.
I gave my like, everyone else should do theirs
Give me your fb, maybe then I’ll do it.
Honestly though, who WANTS to get on fb?
Yeah, we had an interview question on this recently. The short answer is that the centaurs are in disarray but have not been completely removed as a threat.
Didn’t they also say that the Centaurs AND the Bandits were being supplied by the same people in Kryta?
Maybe we’ll get an event with them during the Queen’s Jubilee.
I’m pretty sure the moose in GW2 that will never find a mate is an analogy of sorts.
I’m sure the antlers play a part in this but I’m just not sure what.
This thread makes my head hurt.
The end goal should always be enjoying yourself and having fun.
If you can’t, maybe you should change perspectives or take a break?
We got too much technology and too few magic in the game.
Isn’t that because of the Bloodstones though? In that case it would make sense that technology would advance in its stead.
How ARE they controlled…I suppose that is the greatest question.
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