Guild Wars 2

Comprissent.3856:

I don’t know if it’s the orbs or what is going on, but every fight i’ve been in for the past hour has had AWFUL lag

It really is unplayable right now. Especially on EB.

Luvpie.8350:

Hi Anet,

I am not sure if this is technically possible since EB JP is a separate map now I hope it is. Can you please remove the bloodlust buff from the Eternal borderlands JP area atleast. This will allow the GvG community a field to continue playing. My guild is new to GvG but if WvW is going in the direction you are taking with flame rams dropping t3 doors with ac’s raining on the rams then we don’t need to bother upgrading/defending… The only other thing keeping me in the game is open field and GvG. So PLEASE look into this asap and see if it is possible. If you can make this happen the GvG/open field crowd can have fun in there until you realize how bad bloodlust is….

TLDR:
Please remove bloodlust buff from EB Jumping puzzle area so GvGers & skirmishers can use it. It is a separate map so it should b possible.

Lol. I love how any thread with word bloodlust in it is merged with this one even if we bring up different ideas…. Having multiple conversations in the same thread will lead to constructive ideas. brilliant anet.

Hi Anet,

I am not sure if this is technically possible since EB JP is a separate map now I hope it is. Can you please remove the bloodlust buff from the Eternal borderlands JP area atleast. This will allow the GvG community a field to continue playing. My guild is new to GvG but if WvW is going in the direction you are taking with flame rams dropping t3 doors with ac’s raining on the rams then we don’t need to bother upgrading/defending… The only other thing keeping me in the game is open field and GvG. So PLEASE look into this asap and see if it is possible. If you can make this happen the GvG/open field crowd can have fun in there until you realize how bad bloodlust is….

TLDR:
Please remove bloodlust buff from EB Jumping puzzle area so GvGers & skirmishers can use it. It is a separate map so it should b possible.

No. There is not reason to upgrade anything anymore. Before with 20 of us we AC/cata defended enemy zerg of 50ish. But now with the 50% damage reduction from rams every1 kills the cannons and stacks ranged aoes the top so acs cant b built and stacks around gate healing/with 80% damage reduction easy… Door drops, set up kill zone but 80% damage reduction persists… and they run through.

No to bloodlust and No to Ram mastery. both are idiotic and promote more zerging and favor the server with the higher pop.

Lol. last 2 pages of this thread. wow. Grats on holding on to your t3 keeps maguma. SoS might have it’s occasional problem but we will fix it and move on. Keep on trolling though Mag, it’s worked great for your guys so far.

Sharpoon.8197:

While on paper this sounds like a good idea, it doesn’t really solve anything. The leagues will still be blown out by certain servers. If anything, this idea will just let 4 servers blowout the rest, instead of 2 which could be the op’s ulterior motive, being from SoS.

Firstly, this will make for more stagnant matches. I doubt FA or DB will enjoy fighting a T1 server almost every week. Two leagues will provide a larger range of mathups.

Secondly, 3 of the 4 proposed leagues will be blown out by a server. The winner of the 1st league will be determined by whichever server is paired with T2 servers the most. So it’s not really about who’s the best.

2nd league will be blown out by SoS.
3rd will be blown out by IoJ.
4th will be blown out by SF.

So the other, less fortunate servers will have to put up with being paired with these guys more often, which I don’t think they would want.

You caught me… evil laughter.

I think we all know who will win what match/league because population = win. But the matchups will be crap if only 2 leagues for 4-5 of 7 weeks. Atleast with 4 leagues the matchups will be closer and not complete blowouts. Either way we are stuck with 2 leagues as Devon already said they need more data…. We really need to gather the data for them because their computers suck it seems or anet suffers from memory loss.

DevonCarver.5370:

Season 1 is going forward as we described, however nothing about future seasons is set in stone. We’ll take a look at the data we get from the first season and will absolutely make adjustments so that future seasons are even better than the first one.

My concern with four leagues is simply that there isn’t enough variety at that point. I could very well be wrong, but we are going to try season 1 this way and then we’ll take a look at how it played out.

Devon we really don’t want the kind of variety in NA where any Top 5 server facings anyone below Tier 2 because the population/rating difference is huge. There will be variety within the leagues with 6 servers in each league. This much variety is enough for us. And you could make the loser of league 1 move down and winner of League 2 move up between Seasons to add some more variety if you wish. Personally me and others I talk to would rather have a close matchup then the variety of facing any top 4 server in terms of population because it’s always going to be a blowout. You have the date from the last few months since the new rating system. Look at it. Any time one of the top5 servers faces anyone below #6 position in terms of rating the matchup is very lopsided.

TexRob.5183:

I think more leagues would certainly help spread people around. A guild transferring to a smaller league could then make a real strong bid to take that server to number 1 for the league. Likely you’d have strong servers in each league garnering more and more people, but then you shift the leagues around again putting the winners into the next leagues, 2nds into the next league, etc.

Seems simple enough, and would at least help the situation.

I think matchmaking should account for this too. Instead of getting weeks like last and this where we have 2-3 blowouts it will make matchups varied (6 servers random) but also the servers getting matched up are closer in strength.

Ricardo.5489:

well… eb in tier 2 would keep geting 3rd place anyway… and loose every single match up.. u’d just get more winners… not make them more competitive

IF EB is going to lose every match in League 2 in this scenario you are also going to lose every match in Anet’s current League 1 but not just lose, get demolished. Atleast with League 2 that I reference above you will have decent fights.

Although Bloodlust and Leagues are a terrible idea, Anet you are still continuing. Please do atleast one thing though and change the US leagues from 2 (12 servers) to 4 (6servers). Currently one of the biggest fears in 1st league is the top 5 servers have population that dwarfs the bottom 7. If each server is going to play each other in league atleast once that will give 4 out 7 matches to be complete blowouts and not fun at all. I am sure bottom 12 servers will experience this. The population for US wvw servers isn’t as balanced as EU and needs the servers divided into groups of 6 instead to have better matchups. These league servers below matched up with each other will give ALOT more balanced matches then dividing servers into 2 groups only.

SOR,BG,JQ,TC,DB,FA League 1
Mag,SoS,SBI,EB,CD,BP League 2
YB,KN,IoJ,DH,NS,HoD League 3
SF,GoM,ET,FC,AR,DR League 4

TLDR
Although Leagues are a dumb idea we need 4 leagues in US instead of 2 to make matchups not blowouts for atleast 50% of 7 weeks duration.

iAmTheDuke.6201:

Fun scrim [Fang]!

Thanks for the fights/lessons.
VR’s kiting/ranged meta annoys us -.-
So many minions.

Sent you a pm.

Luvpie

Hello,

Come give SoS a try. We have great guilds during EU/NA/Oceanic timezones that play together for fun/fights/ppt. Let me know which timezone you looking for and I can recommend some.

Luvpie

Great guild. Thanks for the lessons today.

Oozo.7856:

Luvpie’s sig is full of win.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeACzJ4e.gif

ya. found it on reddit. too good.

saiyr.3071:

KStudios.2850:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread, people who run in 25-30 man guild blobs complain about it being hard to find good fights.

…Or self-gank their connection when they’re about to lose one.

Mind…

STILL BLOWN!

…wait, so I wasn’t the only one seeing that last night too? Weird.

Luvpie.8350:

Had a great time leading on SoS this afternoon against Mag. I really like the kiting Mag does with all the necro/eles…. See you back in game.

PS: We are just starting out in GvGs. If anyone is interested in 15s or 20s please let me know. We have schedule open today around 6pm server time.

Who’s we?

Fang.

Had a great time leading on SoS this afternoon against Mag. I really like the kiting Mag does with all the necro/eles…. See you back in game.

PS: We are just starting out in GvGs. If anyone is interested in 15s or 20s please let me know. We have schedule open today around 6pm server time.

Hi Nyx,

I replied to your in game mail. I am going to be on for the rest of day in 30 mins or so if you need to get in touch with me regarding SoS.

Luvpie

AoA is also SEA.

welcome! gw2-seaofsorrows.com check it out!

Are you guys new to SoS? If you need a voicecomm we have a community ts3 with lots of room Let me know.

Had a good time leading on SoS against Hawk/Ash/VR and briefly for Ark (nice moves). Let’s keep the fights going all week.

PS : Fang is looking for GvGs Sat/Sun evening 15s or 20s please send me a pm and we can arrange numbers etc.

Gudradain.3892:

They are facing BP (rank 11) and Yak (rank 12).

Wanna bet SBI will win this matchup?

After 9-10 guilds more I hope you guys win.

Roosta said it all for SoS. One of the things you might like if you GvG alot is we get variety of matchups against TC/SoR/DB/FA/Mag etc so your GvG needs will be met here with various opponents. Goodluck in your search.

Nuzt.7894:

Quick question for SoS, is there still plenty of Aussie’s and how are the Ques Aussie prime time.

AFAIK plenty of Aus and no queue during AUS time at all.

Getting cheap superficial content out ever 2 weeks is the focus now since spvp (esport) thing never took off. Wish they focused on WvW for rest of the year to make it great but meh.

Lord Kuru.3685:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Ya but to be fair, most of the possible rank combinations for a match have already happened anyway ..and they were almost as likely to happen again.

Being #12 and facing #1-6 once in a blue moon is very different from being guaranteed that over the course of 7 weeks, you will have (at least!) 3 matches that involve one or more servers from #1-6.

So you’re guaranteed to be completely demolished for 3/7 weeks, and almost certainly more. That’s not fun.

But guys its LEAGUES! Plus also as number 12 server I am sure you have similar numbers to 1st server and can battle them for bloodlust buff in middle of map! Not only will 1st server spawn camp the 12th server they will do so with a buff…

style.6173:

No. Not surprised. Popularity of GW2 gamemodes are ranked like this:

1. PvE
2. WvW
3. PvP

PvE will almost always be the headline with an occasional one for WvW or PvP during special events. I expect WvW leagues will get the headline for the next update.

Till 4-5 months ago anet wanted GW2 to be esport so I think the priority was sPvP > PvE > WvW but that ship hit a iceberg and sank killing most spvp teams. Now anet wants to just milk this game I think hence the two week updates for the PvE so it’s PvE > sPvp > wvw. Wvw has never received any real resources to make it great. GvG could keep this game going for years (until camelot etc) if anet would get away from the cheap fast content and invested time into wvw but wvw doesn’t make them money cuz wvwers don’t care about latest skin etc. They play for fights/fun so this will never happen and this game will slowly die.

Stealth.8150:

Ace.9861:

Brutus.5732:

etrigan.4213:

Aralura.5129:

Oh geez SOR, you’re almost as original as FA.

Thanks for the 30 second yak parade TC <3

:’(

SoR is just a wannabe server really. They want coverage that BG has, and they want to be like FA in the open field.

They will have neither.

Especially that overrated zerg fest TW.

I’m sorry they killed your yaks

I am sorry for the way my fellow Rallians act. I don’t understand why TW would go out with low level rifle warriors and hunt down your Dolyak parade. I on the other hand, I am a proud member of PETA. I <3 Yaks!

my source from sor tells me ace was the mastermind behind the yak attacks :P

You guys look like doliaks… just asking for it. Next time be a tree of something. I doubt the WvWers will stop to gather wood.

Had lots of fun leading on SoS today when we outnumbered we gave some good fights to TC/SoR. Hope to see you both during the league play. Any guilds looking for a change from T1 lag please consider SoS if you NA and FA if you oceanic to bring some balance to lower tiers.

Still looking for 1-2 more NA guilds that look for good fights and don’t mind being outnumbered. While some servers are thinking about taking a dive to avoid being in top league SoS has no plans to do this. We play for fun/fights/ppt. Come give us a try!

Had fun defending SoS today at garry and briar sometimes. Every time you guys die you seem to multiply though.. See you in game.

Big shoutout to [Lion] new arrivals on SoS. Always out defending/havoc squad. Great wvw guild!

I haven’t done much defense this week but tonight was fun. 20-30 SoS holding briar and then garry against TC/SoR with couple acs.

@Choo
Nice warbanners on the wg portal, think 6 of them went up lol. If you guys ever get bored with T1 lag come to SoS. We always have someone to fight and move up or down in tiers so you will have plenty of opponents for GvG (variety as well).

Azure.8412:

Chris.3290:

Azure.8412:

SoS has really decent numbers in Oceanic and SEA. They just simply need a few guilds to unite their insane amount of militia like what MERC and co. did in the past.

A lot of experts on SoS all of the sudden.

MERC didn’t “rally” the militia. They got everyone who was hardcore WvW in Oceanic together…then left.

Everyone who WvW’d everyday (with the exception of a dedicated, great few) left. The precious few who stayed, had to rebuild all timezones from scratch.

We have a lot of potential, and we know it; but you don’t just yank out a rug that big and expect it to change overnight.

Really? It’s not “overnight” anymore. It’s been 6 months.

There are many factors that delay trying to organize a pvx server for wvw.

1. Try telling PvX players to come WvW & fight twice their numbers to get 3-4 champ bags instead of farming 50-60 champ bags in 1hr in FG.
2. Try telling PvX players to come WvW instead of doing new PvE content with skin/achievement rewards every 2 weeks.
3. Try telling PvX guilds that they need to merge and form bigger guilds for WvW because the forum said so!
There is a reason many of you well wishers left SoS, because alot of the stuff you guys are recommending/criticizing isnt easy to accomplish especially with only PvX guilds. If it was easy I would have expected most of you to stay on SoS and help.

See you in game!

Thanks for the responses guys.

I want some help clarifying couple items for support ele.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQFAWhEmUbnR5gjDAkHvYCLiCVUeMzO2A-jECBoNBh2AILqIasFhFRjV1ATriIq2jTZ1lQQWIgvjBA-w
Looking at the above link and with GvG in mind. Does the elementalist from elite/glph still rally opponent?

Which abilities on Ele are helped with healing power?

In your experience does the healing power help or should people stick with PTV/Beserker gear for dps instead of Cleric/Magi gear for healing output?

Anyone have any other suggestions/alternate builds you use for support ele.

Wildchild.7502:

Thanks a lot everyone I’ll do some guesting to thoses mentionnend servers. NSP , SBI and FA seems to be most interesting so far.

Might I also suggest finding the right guild. Right guild will make any server seem great. SoS would be my suggestion for NA. FA would be my suggestion for Oceanic.

Cheers

Luvpie

kraftie.4765:

Hi,
Recently moved to this server from (Darkhaven) and I’m currently looking for Australian based WvW/pvx clans. Any Suggestions?

cheers <3

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/Sea-of-Sorrows-Version-3-0/first#post2561080

Please look at that post under oceanics. You might want to try SoV/AoA/CB. One of those guilds for Aussies is a great choice.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQJARWl0ziqHWzqGa9IhpHkitten1Dwb9vTqQpB-jEzAYLA0FEZBgABl9KiGbNrIas6FMlLRUt9ORm8Ub0B8GYSBAxCA-w

Lots of interrupts and ranged. Try it out.

suggested by many to have 4 leauges for NA but I doubt anet will listen. they gone full kitten.

TC please try to double team SoR on all borderlands or this week will be dull. We all know you have more numbers then SoS so you will finish second. Just hit SoR we will help and lets have good fights. Everyone knows the outcome of the match but atleast we can make the fights unpredictable.

Solstice.1097:

NA ranked 7-12 and 19-24 say goodbye to all your WvW friends because 1/2 of them will be gone in a month.

exactly… you think a server like DB(4) is bored going against SoS (8), imagine BG,SoR,JQ with anyone outside of T1 matched up against T2or below in league 1. I wonder who will win….
Being on a Very High Server with Large PvE population and low WvW population we are dependent on militia turnout. No one wants to play when you have opponents outnumber you 3to1 constantly on all borderlands.

Assuming the map changes that are in works don’t get in before October 4 (which is highly likely) then we probably won’t see map change till end of Season in November 21st? Whose bright idea is this? WvW which is already just getting superficial updates like masteries will not receive any updates for 2months.

Also Each server will fight every server in their league…. US has 2 leagues. League 1 will have so many crap matches for 7 weeks because the top 5 servers are so stacked that bottom 7 won’t win… guaranteed. It will be even worse if top 3 servers get spread to 3 different matches making that week boring as hell. Please rethink the 2 leauges and instead do 4 leagues in NA so top 5/6 servers perma matched in league1. The servers populations are pretty symmetric when you divide NA in 4 leagues instead of 2. 2 leagues we will result in very crappy matches.

Slomoshun.6317:

Chris.3290:

Speaking of which, you’re pretty classy NS. Thanks for keeping the fights in the open and not just going for the caps and stuff.

This is something I’ve seen lacking against SoS and EB. Even when numbers are even or you guys have a clear numbers advantage there’s too much turtling. Running in keeps/towers and building defensive siege. Not enough open field imo, which made this week super boring.

It’s all about organization/core. I have seen plenty of DB run inside towers too when there is no leadership/core guild carrying them. It’s just how pugs act regardless of server. I wish SoS had round the clock organization to keep DB engaged but we don’t. If any NA on DB get bored welcome to come over We get to fight variety of servers each week and always have someone to fight!

We are currently working on GvG/WvW comps and are in need of Hammer warriors, staff eles, and heal guardians. Please check us out and talk to me if any interest.

Slomoshun.6317:

Brando.1374:

well this thread is boring.

This thread is a reflection of this matchup.

>.>

agreed. I hope some of TC/DB guilds get bored & move to FA/Mag/EB (Oceanic/SEA) / SoS (NA) servers so we have two tiers of fun servers. There will never be a T2 lock like T1 cuz ratings are so close between T2/T3 and this type of matchup will happen alot especially if the league is 12 servers each…

PS: NS/FTF thanks for the couple hours of fun on SoS.

As a 7-8 server this is crap. There is no way we can be top 5-6 because we dont have the people…

Serebus.7314:

SO BORING SO MUCH KEEP HUGGING IM GONNA GO OUT OF MY MIND

Lol. if you guys just wanted open field whisper me anytime instead of flipping our keeps so we have to flip them back. Also don’t bring NS/rB/EAT at same time. One at a time and we can have open field skirmishes all day. It’s actually alot more fun for us too. Tired of ppt game and defense. If I am home tomorrow evening will be in SoS south ruins area. Just leave our garrison wp up so we don’t have to run from spawn.

CAA.9653:

Then I suggest Maguuma or SoS I can face you guys.

SBI also got 2 medium-large NA guilds, so they might be coming up.

SBI already got 5 DR guilds for NA. Maguuma has NA but needs Oceanic/SEA. NA could use the NA if SE is up to the challenge. We have great oceanic and couple SEA guilds.