Guild Wars 2

Nerfed even more? No, it’s still a very popular choice in spvp.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

nice!

errr when will the feature patch kick in?

not 18 march 2014 right?

how many months after that?

There’s no set date… apparently we will get more information when they have made progress. At least that’s what they’ve been saying since as long as I can remember.

KarlaGrey.5903:

garethh.3518:

We want GW2 to be great.
We want GW2 to be fun.

Why wish for the impossible?

We are masochists.

XGhoul.7426:

Lux.7169:

Out of curiosity is there a date set for the next RU? Is it this upcoming Friday or is it for some future date?

If anyone knows could you post or PM please? Thanks!

14th; proof: See sticky red post on top

I feel blind considering I went into that thread and the other one looking for dates -

Thanks!

Out of curiosity is there a date set for the next RU? Is it this upcoming Friday or is it for some future date?

If anyone knows could you post or PM please? Thanks!

I wouldn’t call myself a pve player AT ALL but I have 4 lvl 80’s and I am at lvl 40 fractals. That being said you sound like I’m not allowed to have an opinion about this upcoming patch, at least not one that differs from yours.

I would much rather have our current, terrible, system where we can at least make dyes and collect armor sets rather than get lvl up tomes.

I can post a screenshot of my lvl 80’s, the 300 lvl up tomes I already have, and the x8 lvl 20 tomes I already have.

Where am I asking for the new system? Please quote me. I am saying that this ‘stepping stone’ is not only a waste of time and resources that could have been put to use elsewhere, but that the CURRENT system is FAR SUPERIOR to this one we’re going to be stuck with for an INDEFINITE length of time.

edit**** thanks for clarifying what I mean to say, Dosvidaniya

So the new reward system for the next few months (maybe longer) is filled with pve junk no one who pvp’s will care about.

The old reward system is even better than this.

Why do we have to wait and endure this crappy reward system? Why can’t they just leave the current system alone until the new one is READY?

There’s currently no date for this ‘feature patch’ right? Or did I miss that?

They’re unwilling to even give us a general ETA but they’re going to remove any form of reward progression currently in place with an even worse system.

Why are devs wasting time on this ‘stepping stone’ reward system when they could put that much effort into releasing the new one that was promised well over a year ago?

What do you mean by stepping stone? Is this current system coming in a week supposedly going to benefit us when the new one is out? I have NEVER seen any pvp’er ask for lvl up tomes as a reward. Will being lvl 80 help us get better rewards in the future? Will we need lots of skillpoints in the future? Is that really what the future holds for pvp? Unlocking skills to use? I am genuinely curious because if this is a stepping stone, I want to know where it’s going to lead because this looks like a ridiculous waste of resources for an unnecessary change to mask the lack of effort put elsewhere.

I would love to be wrong about this, so please, show me the error of my assumptions.

garethh.3518:

Lux.7169:

For essentially being the liason to the pvp community I would expect she… plays the game… or am I out of line for asking that?

You’re assuming she is their main source of forum based information.
So far, the devs seem to actually go to the forums when they are interested in the forum’s opinions on anything. Allie just posts ‘Ill pass it on to the dev team’ from time to time, but I have yet to see anything come of it.

(I know the devs don’t appear on the forums much, that’s the tragic part of the statement)

So are you saying I’m not allowed to ask her that question? Is it ridiculous of me to wonder what her experience with the pvp in this game is?

Where did I post saying I assume she’s the main source of forum information? I said she was essentially the pvp liason since her title is community coordinator

garethh.3518:

Lux.7169:

What rank are you in pvp? What steps do you take to understand pvp players concerns?

She isn’t a dev.
Lol..

From what I’ve seen Allie just moderates the forums and does some community stuff.

Frenk.5917:

Will you (and your collegues) be more in touch with the SPVP community, in the near future?

They are ‘trying’.
Their attempt is at more of a PR stunt right now, for better and worse.

For essentially being the liason to the pvp community I would expect she… plays the game… or am I out of line for asking that?

As a PvP player I am genuinely curious what her experience with the pvp of this game actually is. If she doesn’t want to answer she obviously won’t but I think mocking my question by pointing out the obvious—that she’s not a dev—is a bit unnecessary.

What rank are you in pvp? What steps do you take to understand pvp players concerns?

gl finding a team RB.

Laughing so hard at the second post… omg….

Noc.2459:

We got qualifying points and still no reward for it.

So luck will be important in 2015?

The nominal reward was custom arenas before being released for all to the players who had the top 100 QP’s for either NA or EU and titles.

Aberrant.6749:

Lux.7169:

lol….

The last we heard was that luck would influence the future PvP reward system. Devs have confirmed this in several ready up livestreams.

Personally I would much rather have LESS RNG and more goal-oriented rewards.

Ah ok, ty ^^

My only worry is that we’ll have to loot in the middle of combat or something… which would be horrid. Problems like looting instead of ressing an ally happen in WvW… would be worse in PvP : /

I would not worry about that. There’s been no precedent ever in the history of gw spvp for them to do anything like this.

lol….

The last we heard was that luck would influence the future PvP reward system. Devs have confirmed this in several ready up livestreams.

Personally I would much rather have LESS RNG and more goal-oriented rewards.

infantrydiv.1620:

Lux.7169:

infantrydiv.1620:

Lux.7169:

I think pistol whip is more or less fine in the competitive scene. Meaning it’s a low skill cap build that is rarely seen (if ever) in high-end pvp. I don’t know anyone in the top 200 running pistol whip, at least not in NA. I think I K is the really only successful high-end top 100 pw thief NA.

I think the problem with PW is that it’s a gimmicky mechanic that gives a squishy class invuln frames to spam high burst damage back to back. As such a bad PW thief can kill a very good non-PW glassy class (ele, mes, thieves, bad necros etc etc). So as a thief who has invested thousands of hours into your class and spec, if you die to a person who is just picking up PW for the first time and won by 3-spam teleporting because you ate a basi when your stunbreak was on cd then you kind of feel crappy.

Any glass class without a stunbreak will be roasted by PW unless you are truly advanced in your respective class.

One more thing I would like to mention. The great thing about classes like thief and ele is that you can counter burst. Basically if a class goes in to burst you you can usually interrupt their burst and counter it with your own. This is extremely difficult to do with the nature of PW since it’s a burst that evades and any good PW thief will be able to mitigate the few fractions of a second that they’re vulnerable.

Magic Toker, Shad, and Sizer all run S/P now.

Aren’t shad and sizer EU? And I honestly haven’t seen toker in weeks and I have been extremely active recently.

Yup, toker hasn’t team Q’d since 2/25 and he’s decayed off top 1k solo Q

Now that you mention it, I haven’t seen google on his PW thief in at least a month, maybe longer. Last two times I have seen him he was not even thief.

So… no one in NA currently running PW at a top tier level?

Not saying it’s impossible because clearly it is since I’ve seen sizer streaming with it before, but just pointing out that it’s not prominent in the high-end competitive scene on NA.

Why does it matter which server side people are playing it? These EU teams have beaten all the best NA teams. And these threads are primarily coming from EU players I believe because the spec is spreading fast in EU solo queue.

This is the only thief spec I’ve ever taken issue with because you are literally evading while doing massive damage.

In NA, I’ve seen Ozielol run pistol whip. I don’t really know who is left in the competitive NA scene other than vVv and Disney Channel

The only reason I differentiated between EU and NA is because I have no experience in EU at all. I don’t know how they play. I know they’ve out-performed NA in every major tournament which is why I said it’s definitely possible to be a top tier PW thief.

What’s with the hostility? I never said it was unviable in high-tier play. You seem really offended that I differentiated between NA and EU and when I pointed out that the ONLY two thieves you mentioned haven’t played PW in weeks you got aggressive.

Of course I know EU has beaten NA multiple times. Where did I say it mattered that EU or NA thieves mattered at all in this conversation? You’re assuming things and putting things in my mouth that I never said or even suggested.

infantrydiv.1620:

Lux.7169:

I think pistol whip is more or less fine in the competitive scene. Meaning it’s a low skill cap build that is rarely seen (if ever) in high-end pvp. I don’t know anyone in the top 200 running pistol whip, at least not in NA. I think I K is the really only successful high-end top 100 pw thief NA.

I think the problem with PW is that it’s a gimmicky mechanic that gives a squishy class invuln frames to spam high burst damage back to back. As such a bad PW thief can kill a very good non-PW glassy class (ele, mes, thieves, bad necros etc etc). So as a thief who has invested thousands of hours into your class and spec, if you die to a person who is just picking up PW for the first time and won by 3-spam teleporting because you ate a basi when your stunbreak was on cd then you kind of feel crappy.

Any glass class without a stunbreak will be roasted by PW unless you are truly advanced in your respective class.

One more thing I would like to mention. The great thing about classes like thief and ele is that you can counter burst. Basically if a class goes in to burst you you can usually interrupt their burst and counter it with your own. This is extremely difficult to do with the nature of PW since it’s a burst that evades and any good PW thief will be able to mitigate the few fractions of a second that they’re vulnerable.

Magic Toker, Shad, and Sizer all run S/P now.

Aren’t shad and sizer EU? And I honestly haven’t seen toker in weeks and I have been extremely active recently.

Yup, toker hasn’t team Q’d since 2/25 and he’s decayed off top 1k solo Q

Now that you mention it, I haven’t seen google on his PW thief in at least a month, maybe longer. Last two times I have seen him he was not even thief.

So… no one in NA currently running PW at a top tier level?

Not saying it’s impossible because clearly it is since I’ve seen sizer streaming with it before, but just pointing out that it’s not prominent in the high-end competitive scene on NA.

My application was rejected =\

I would actually truly like to learn from davinci.

I think pistol whip is more or less fine in the competitive scene. Meaning it’s a low skill cap build that is rarely seen (if ever) in high-end pvp. I don’t know anyone in the top 200 running pistol whip, at least not in NA. I think I K is the really only successful high-end top 100 pw thief NA.

I think the problem with PW is that it’s a gimmicky mechanic that gives a squishy class invuln frames to spam high burst damage back to back. As such a bad PW thief can kill a very good non-PW glassy class (ele, mes, thieves, bad necros etc etc). So as a thief who has invested thousands of hours into your class and spec, if you die to a person who is just picking up PW for the first time and won by 3-spam teleporting because you ate a basi when your stunbreak was on cd then you kind of feel crappy.

Any glass class without a stunbreak will be roasted by PW unless you are truly advanced in your respective class.

One more thing I would like to mention. The great thing about classes like thief and ele is that you can counter burst. Basically if a class goes in to burst you you can usually interrupt their burst and counter it with your own. This is extremely difficult to do with the nature of PW since it’s a burst that evades and any good PW thief will be able to mitigate the few fractions of a second that they’re vulnerable.

I honestly believe the balance devs truly think this game is very balanced w/ regards to pvp and they secretly just wait to see us “counter the new meta”

Spirit rangers op? Nah, give it 3 months and the pvp’ers will figure out how to counter it. Necro op? Let’s remove 1 bleed stack and wait for them to figure out how to counter it. Warrior OP? Nah let’s give it 8 months and if they’re still OP at that point in time we will knock nerf heal sig by 8%…. maybe…

Honestly I’d rather see the oppossite happening. I’d love to see weekly changes that drastically effect the meta. Force us to adapt to new changes (See: FLUXES FROM GW1). Don’t force us to play the same stale meta on the same stale maps in the same stale game mode for 2 years. The only reason metas are even changing is because people are so bored of the current system and playing the same class X,XXX matches in a row.

With the thief discussion, if a thief speed or stealth decaps you fast it shouldn’t really matter because whoever is guarding home should NOT be able to be solo’d by a thief. It’s just a minor setback until your home pt can rotate back home and solo the thief or freecap it again. Sitting at home doing nothing though is the worst.

1. When all my team-mates cap home together at least I can comfortably know we will all get glory gold and rank at the end of the match

Godly Black Ownage.4902:

lol i cant believe people are still believing anet will turn this pvp around. I gave up on them 6 months in…

6 months ago? You missed the boat by quite a while.

if you’re a bunker you should always be running double energy sigils. That’s instant access to 4 dodge rolls. You also have aegis via virtues, shelter, and renewed focus. You can even use renewed focus without getting decapped since he can’t even reveal himself while stealthed if you’re invuln.

Thanks to bear I now have a private channel on TS! Getting lots of messages and playing with a variety of different players. Still looking for more teams to play with!

nevermind they deleted my room again - some friends came forward and offered to let me use their TS so I have one to use if necessary.

Thanks, that’d be great because I really do love using bearcave since all the pvp’ers are there!

DoYourBestBear.6810:

Or you could ask for a channel? And, maybe, not give out the password?

I’ve had 2 channels the past few months and use them nightly but eventually they just get randomly deleted -

After the first got deleted I got a second one which also got deleted : (

I’m an r62 thief and just got a new beasty computer that actually lets me livestream without affecting performance.

I am open to playing with teams of any level or caliber, from the lower percentiles to the top 100. I’ve been top 25 in tQ before but usually hover in the 100-200 range.

I don’t mind playing with new teams or ones who want to improve as long as you guys do not rage. I don’t blame or rage or scream at team-mates, but I will point out where the team could have done better. So basically for newer teams I can be a resource to improve your gameplay.

I will also be streaming all tPvP I do regardless of the team. I’m able to run gw2 on highest quality for the best appearance and still run the game at about 180-220 FPS. It will have all voices from the TS on stream so I can’t use bearcave anymore since I don’t have a private room and vicki will make inappropriate noises in my channel…

I have all forms of voice comm and usually have lots of other players wanting to join me in tPvP. Although, if you’re not a great team don’t expect me to have extra players waiting to help teach. I don’t mind playing with any kind of team but some of my friends feel like its a waste of time. However, my wife is an r40ish bunker guardian who is willing to help teams of any level.

One more pet peeve, I don’t like playing with other thieves so if you invite me please try and limit the glass cannons. Although, I guess if a thief asked very nicely I wouldn’t mind tutoring them.

I’m not claiming to be the best thief NA, I think currently caed is the best active thief. Although you’d be hard-pressed to find one as good as me who is willing to play with people in the bottom 1% and also have the livestreaming capabilities at this high of quality.

I play weird hours and pretty sure all top players know of me and can vouch for me.

Whisper me in game or message me here. Thanks!

IGN: Lux Fortuna

Arganthium.5638:

Let’s be fair, at least it’s not in SoloQ (and it’s still more fun than Skyhammer).

+1

I did the math, if 4v5 is happening as often as people say then this game has 17,422,913,453 active pvp’ers due to the dishonor system.

This is based on science, people, gw2 has over 17 billion people active in the pvp scene.

There are too many variables to give any definitive answer. In reality it comes down to things such as map choice, enemy comp, enemy players, team comp/players, map match-ups etc etc. I differentiate comp and players because you could be the best decap engi in the world, but if you vs someone like Ken you will NEVER decap him 1v1, whereas if you played some random guardian running his same build you’ll probably walk all over him. So that will either be game-breaking or useless.

I think to have the most success you would need to have a variety of classes and specs available and be ready to class swap before the match starts to what you think will have the most impact based on all of those variables and more.

For me that’s too much micro-managing effort. Personally I’ve decided to be more laid back and focus on just one class/spec because I am more focused on enjoying my time playing instead of obsessing over LB or changing specs. Maybe if I started taking it more seriously I’d counter spec but atm there’s no incentive.

except I’d downvote everyone who QQ’d on 5 accounts all day err’ day, and I’m sure others would too.

+1 rep to OP.

Ryan.9387:

Only the players matter to me. Names.

+1

I really appreciate your feedback locx and I’ll def go to my local computer place and see if they can put it together if I order it.

Thanks a bunch for the responses. Based on what I’ve read it sounds like I’d be fine with an i5 or higher to accomplish what I’m looking for as long as I’ve got a decent graphics card in the mix. Sorry I’m not tech savvy and have a hard time understanding performance differences unless its via analogies or FPS comparisons.

Based on what I am reading it sounds like the one listed as PC3 (the last option which seems to be the middle-of-the-road) option would be best or will I run into problems in the future with PC3

I would like it if someone could please tell me what I could expect by upgrading to a new PC if I post the specs. I realize buying a new PC instead of building one is highly frowned upon, but given my current situation and obligations buying one is the preferred method.

Currently I am running gw2 pvp at the absolute lowest graphic settings for maximum performance, which is an average of 35-40 FPS. It is VERY hard for me to livestream using OBS and twitch and I can’t navigate any web browser while I am livestreaming.

My current specs are (you can refer to this as PC1):

-AMD FX™-6120 Six-Core Processor 3.50 GHz
-RAM: 10.0GB
-64 Bit operating system
-Radeon HD 7450 graphics card

(here’s a link to all the detailed specs of my exact pc http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03359045&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en#N680 )

I plan on getting a computer with these specs (you can refer to this as PC2):

-Intel® Core™ i7 Extreme Processor
-Windows 7 Home Premium
-16GB Memory
-NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 780 with 3GB GDDR5

(here’s a link with more detailed info on the specs I plan on getting: http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-aurora-r4/pd?oc=dpcwny5&model_id=alienware-aurora-r4 )

Based on that what would I expect in terms of FPS, and the ability to stream content via OBS on twitch?

Also, I am open to suggestions on what to modify on that computer I plan on getting. As much as I would LOVE to build my own pc I just cannot commit to a project like that right now. Any help on whether this PC will be able to run gw2 at max performance around 60 FPS would be great. I am looking forward to livestreaming often.

I’m not sure how relevent internet speed is to performance but based on speedtest.net my:
-ping is 76 ms
-download: 12.85 Mbps
-Upload: 2.99 Mbps

I would very much appreciate any help I could get.

I am also considering a cheaper alternative to the above computer, so as a bonus if anyone could tell me how this PC would perform that would be great! You can refer to this as PC3:
-Intel® Core™ i7 Extreme Processor
-Windows 7 Home Premium
-8GB Memory
-NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680 with 2GB GDDR5

The only screenshot I have close to this is 1-9 of NA solo Q LB from 11/25 (3 days before reset) but it doesn’t sound like that’s what you’re looking for. I’d send it to you for free just whisper me.

He’s referring to a super tanky engi who has a lot of CC to push a backpoint defender off point for the decap. Backpoint defenders usually can’t 1v1 decap engies hence a team usually has to commit 2 to win back home.

-Tournaments played on thief
2639 with a 60% winrate in tournaments 1585-1054

-Time you can play.
Usually nights PST or mornings depending on when the team meets, but my days off are Friday/Saturday so I can play any time on those days.

-Why your looking for a serious team.
I play 5-8 hours a day and would rather team Q with a team that wants to improve as a whole instead of solo Q

-How many hours you practice per day.
5-8

personally I would much rather have drastic volatile changes to pvp every month and have metas constantly changing than dealing with meta X for 5 months and eventually having to deal with meta Y for 5 months, etc etc etc

+999 crit damage
+999 power
+5% crit chance

hehehehehe

If you need a thief I can play thief (sorry but I don’t meet the multiple class requirement). r58 thief, lots of LB experience. I have TS3 and mic. Message me in-game sometime.

More concerning is why does he have daggerstorm… even on legacy…
Nevermind, questions of hotjoin shouldn’t concern me.

Jumper, Caed, Toker, Nitschei (when he’s not hardcore lagging), Davinci (when he’s not banned), and Falchii are the best thieves I’ve played against in the NA scene.

Amazing player, great communication. I really enjoy team Q’ing with Odysseus. Hope we can still super pug

Kryshade.6075:

I understand your theory but completely disagree with it. You obviously think pushing far is bad so it happens far less on your solo Q teams than mine, since I push far 100% of the time from start every match, no matter what.

If we’re being objective than theoretically you’d have more success in Solo Q and I would have far less success. So then why is there a huge difference between the ranks? Did I just randomly get lucky teams who rotated well to accomodate me?

You’re saying that basically no matter what my strategy to constantly push far immediately is inferior to other strategies and I disagree. In team fights I’m a liability, especially when showing up immediately. At home point I would get decapped very quickly.

So if it’s really such an awful strategy in solo Q how was I rank 1 before LB reset and now still in the top 100 in both solo and team Q? I’m not saying I’m a pro player but I just want to know why your strategies have not led to much success for you but I have actually seen quite a lot of success in Solo Q.

I really love a lot of these suggestions, although honestly I feel like thieves guild is in a good place right now, but daggerstorm is just ridiculous in a pvp setting in its current state.

What I appreciate most about your changes to the typical S/D build is that you have changed it in a way that punishes bad players and rewards good ones. Those changes to the S/D set would be amazing because as it is right now bad players can still be good on it.

I honestly think thieves guild is perfectly fine. However I believe daggerstorm is a bit ridiculous in the competitive environment. I don’t even see a revamp of that skill even being moderately useful. I understand its utility in wvw/pve but in pvp it’s a complete waste. Perhaps completely change that skill to a larget aoe blind field larger than BP for more team fight utility.

Jumper

Have you played a total of 11 games yet?

Love those close endings and game-changing big plays.