Guild Wars 2

My interpretation is that as long as its one of your equipped weapon sets it won’t vanish even if you’re not currently wielding it. But once you remove it from one of your two possible sets then it will vanish.

Ferocity will have no affect on the current crit damage specs in sPvP—devs have confirmed this several times.

IMO the sigil update is going to have the most drastic change on the meta. I have a few build specs in mind that could DRASTICALLY affect the meta but until we see fully how it is implemented it is too soon to tell for sure.

Uhtameit.2413:

It is pretty weird that they’re still displayed in the UI then, don’t you think?

Given the lack of critical updates I am not too surprised. Personally I would be annoyed they bothered to remove it before making QoL changes or important updates.

Do I think we should have gotten something more for QPs? Absolutely but at the end of the day they were just tQ wins which are a dime a dozen.

The prize was a custom arena amonth before it was publically available. The top 100 on NA and top 100 EU received one.

If you weren’t top 100 you won’t be getting anything.

Amstel Steel.2058:

Lux.7169:

Discuss symbolism in gw2 pvp.

I didn’t ask for a screenshot of the leaderboards…

Gemshop purchasable please.

…got their heads turned into a bobble head.

On a more serious note:

PvP is as imbalanced as our bobble heads today.

Discuss symbolism in gw2 pvp.

Haha, I was hoping for SAB but this will suffice.

Maybe in a few years they’ll implement something like this.

Wow, so the reason we can’t have spectator mode like in ge1 is because the system can’t support it in a way that could be implemented at some point in the past 6 years of development?

Wasn’t the reason Anet axed gw1 to create gw2 because players wanted a better z-acis that Anet couldn’t support?

I’d much rather be able to spectate than jump…

RoRo.8270:

Press h there should be a tab there for finishers

That’s not what he asked.

yup, dev said that titles are being re-scaled to the new system.

Everyone who is dragon will get legendary champion.

I feel bad because this reminds me of the duplicate legendaries in pve (like dual incinerators). I hope there’s some remedy for these sorts of situations, GL.

Lopez.7369:

Because PvP is fun. You don’t need to add crazy incentives for a fun activity. Reward tracks, rank-up boosts, and the other unannounced reward feature are enough to incentivize people into a fun game mode. That’s especially true if the point of comparison is something as mindless and boring as champion farming.

So you’re saying we’re getting a huge influx of new players because of rank up boosts? That’s been regarded as meaningless, not a judge of skill and no one cares about it anyway.
Rewards? You mean the rewards already shown to be far less efficient than pve alternatives.
Fun? If they weren’t playing pvp for fun already, they won’t come now.

Lopez.7369:

ArenaNet doesn’t need to do anything. Think about the big picture.

The people who are high-ranked are obviously so obsessed with the game that they’ll most likely keep playing no matter what. And even if some of them quit over the change, they will represent a minority of an extreme minority that ArenaNet shouldn’t care much about placating in the first place.

Meanwhile, the low-ranked players obviously need a greater incentive to PvP, and easier rank-ups provide that.

Why would new players come? Rank is meaningless and if you looked up the datamined info champ farming in queensdale will yield over twice as much loot per hour than tpvp… and that’s not even the best way of getting loot by a long shot O_o

MarkPhilips.5169:

I’m just curious how many players legitimately reach r60-r70 without skyhammer farm and now are crying because they wasted their time.

I’m really unhappy for people who legitimately reach r60-70 legit but skyhammer farmers need only to shut up and appreciate their next r80 and dragon finisher.

I haven’t seen a single skyhammer farmer complaining about this. If you see one point him out to me, please.

All of us r60+ here complaining can screenshot our tQ/sQ games played.

Lord Kuru.3685:

I think they should just give it all away to rank 10 players. What about that?

Definite this. Since rank is clearly so meaningless to the forums, it needs to be on par with pve lvl 80. r10-20 should = dragon rank. Something a player can get in 2-3 days of active play.

Better yet I’d rather them delete ranks at this point. I would much rather them delete ranks than see 2,000 dragons.

Automatically moved to your wardrobe and converted to skins.

intsch.3570:

Seifer Thalaen.7869:

For those who know me i’m Ark with second account cause my first one got banned (Yeah saying bad things bout op wars…) i’d just like to say that with this “dragon to everyone” crap i’m probably quitting cause going for phoenix (Like i had in gw1) was my first goal in pvp (Going for it the legit way and not farming hj/sh like a mad kitten, i was also asking for sh farmers rollback eventually loosing my 2 ranks i did there from 58 to 60 cause i couldn’t wait for my shark, not a big deal anyway)…now i’m halfway to 69…and every 55+ is getting dragons (I never aimed to dragon cause like in gw1, for me, was too far away…and i was totally fine with that, ppl with more time and dedication than me would get it and gg to them, like star, oh my, chamalee and so on in gw1) everyone is going to skip something that, for me, was an endgame goal since the first day i knew there was a phoenix emote up there…and at that time seemed so far away, almost unreachable….i’m one rank and half from it now…and you’re giving it to every single 55+ (Including sh farming scrubs)…gg anet…gg,
gtfo, i kept playing your worthless crap, i kept playing your kitten metas, i kept playing while every single decent player was leaving, i kept playing after we all saw our qpnts thrown into trash, i kept playing after you removed paids, i kept fighting op bunker eles and bm rangers at close with my mesmer, i kept playing without a stable team, going pug in tpvp, losing, getting trolled by nonsense decappers on skyhammer, getting owned by braindead wars while on mesmer and forced to roll war if i wanted to go somewhere…all of this for that emote, for getting something i worked hard in gw1…totally worth it despite crap rewards, nonsense ladders and kitten fotm metas.
So thank you anet, i trusted you after all….here’s your reward for me.

100% agreement.

100% agreement.

Benjamin.8237:

What I’ve been thinking about more and more, if rank 55+ are getting bumped to rank 80. How high will rank 35 get bumped? What about rank 2. Will current rank 2 players get bumped to 30? Because while 30 is easy to get (skyhammer) it still splits the people who have tried a bit from those who haven’t and so on.

The bumping starts after rank 39.

Barret.4095:

Boika.5367:

The thing with PvP is, in every game getting max rank is difficult, difficulty means time consuming. Casual players are not meant to have that high end goal. That kind of cherry should only be meant for hardcore members. That is there reward. Casuals will still have there reward through those skins they will be able to get in this new patch. But for the love of god, give some goals to hardcore players also.

don’t worry you’ll get some pve loot bags after you’re handed a dragon rank, and then maybe after a week of pvp you’ll get as much crafting materials as a champion farmer gets in a day. and after a year of pvp maybe you’ll have enough to craft a legendary.

Oh, but it doesn’t stop at the year. You get to spend the next week doing map completion—well month if you have a life.

Liewec.2896:

Lux.7169:

Honestly this update (terrible pvp ‘rewards’ and max lvl achieved instantly by 2,000+ players) will mean a mass exodus of good players.

terrible rewards? people rank 70 now will be getting tons of the max rank chests which can have legendary precursors and mats in them.

what reward would you want?

i think this new format is great with the unlocks as progression tracks, even pvp only back armour to work towards.

This shows how little you actually understand. The devs have already confirmed multiple times via the RU and in the forums that players will not gain ‘tons of max rank chests’

For example, since Ostrich Eggs is rank 71 he will get 9 chests since he is 9 ranks from 80 and he will not be compensated for any experience that pushes him above 80 until after the patch after he earns it.

Rank 55 players will get 25 chests since they are 25 ranks from 80.

Their logic is that ostrich already received his r55, 56, 57 chests in the old system. You know, the awful pvp skins he already had. They’re even disregarding the fact that he had to earn 450,000 each time for 2 of those chests (which he could have bought for 1k glory), and throughout the 60’s he had to make 150,000 per chest which he could have bought for 1k glory.

Yeah, sounds legit.

RoRo.8270:

Lux.7169:

Chaith.8256:

You guys read the blog post.

_"…for a very small percentage of players, we’d like to congratulate you on becoming Tyria’s first group of dragons"

Hory shet, luckily I am one of the very small percentile who’s gotten Bear! I will accept this great prestige of Dragon rank, lol.

Who had any idea that a small percentage of players equated to 80% of the active pvp population?!?!

I’d love to see the exact number of these -special few-

Where exactly are you getting your numbers just because the pvp population is small and you face the same 15 people it doesn’t mean that the pvp population has that many people above rank 50. You must be off your meds if you think there are more players over rank 50 than under. This rank crap is hilarious if a player is good people in that population will know he’s good(I use that word sparingly because this game has a low skill ceiling) based on his name not some finisher

If you read my posts I change the numbers and % every time because we DON’T know the real data. It was hilarious and sad when we kept hearing grouch day there would be TONS of dragons during the RU and the other devs trying to reel him back in.

I said ACTIVE PvP population. If you’re active in PvP and haven’t hi r50 then that’s pretty pathetic.

dom.3201:

I’m bringing up this thread since we now have new informations on the April 15th feature patch. Did anyone understand if cultural armor skins obtained in pvp will count toward The Emperor title when the wardrobe will be unified between pvp and pve?

After watching RU my understanding is that pvp’ers aren’t unlocking the item itself but rather just the skin which we can transmute on to actual items.

Based on that interpretation I doubt it will change, unfortunately. However, that’s just my speculation based on their wording. I don’t know that any official comment on that specifically has been released. Pretty sure I would have seen it.

bhagwad.4281:

jcbroe.4329:

they should be a “Thank you for the time invested and the support you’ve given us, and here is that reward for your time investment” type deals.

So what is that reward now? Whether we want to call it time invested, or skill, or whatever, the fact is that there should be exclusive rewards. Right now, everyone at r70 is essentially getting bumped down to r55.

Haha I’ve been telling my friends that. Basically like you said, they’re bumping anyone above 55 down to 55 and calling it ‘dragon’

pro dev move.

jcbroe.4329:

I appreciate the effort to try and understand both sides. That’s more than I can say for most of the rest of the posts on the issue.

bhagwad.4281:

Quincy.2198:

I just don’t really get one thing.. We need the map gift for a PvP legendary.. This is the biggest deal for me, to be honest.. They force us to do the most PvE for something that I want in PvE.. I mean.. Just make some PvP gift?

The tables should be turned. To get a legendary you need to reach max PvP rank aka r55 in today’s value.

Let’s see how the PvE’ers like to be forced to do content they don’t like.

Agreed so hard.

Phaeton.9582:

Oh just re read the post.. 2 rank 80 accounts tyvm

What’s this new progression thing all about then?

haha grats…

progression = pve mats

it’s ok, pvp is just another minigame to get another achievement point. Just farm r80 in a month and you’ll never have to come back again

Cush.4063:

The PvP only player base is so small I’m sure that’s definitely not the reason lol. Most PvP players play the other modes as well. Why do you think they added all these rewards and systems that interconnect PvE/WvW and PvP? You really think finishers was the reason? It was probably because everyone was screaming for it to happen. They could’ve just removed ranks like they said they were going to in the beginning.

It makes more sense than any alternative explanation that I’ve heard. It’s simple, really: “how do we further monetize the least profitable game mode?”

What other explanation makes more sense? By all means I’m not attached to this theory and that’s the point. I want to know WHY it happened.

After hearing these ridiculous changes I would not be surprised if the higher ups thought: “we can potentially increase stomp finisher sales by 8% if we hand out dragon ranks at 50? Done. Code it up and pretend like it’s a reward.”

This is coming from the dev team that confessed: “we removed glory a month in advance so pve players wouldn’t come in and farm skins to unlock”

…ummm… what? If a pve player could come into pvp and farm skins and unlock a lot of them I have 2 things to say:
1) Who cares what crappy skins they can unlock in 1 month
2) They probably deserve whatever crappy skins they can unlock in 1 month

Logic like that from their lead economist leads me to believe that something as ridiculous as this theory is possible.

BlackBeard.2873:

Lux, I think you can take off your tin-foil hat now!

Remember, they were originally going to remove rank all-together. Instead, they are making rank something that allows some pvp progression in the intermediate term. If people decide they want dragon rank, and it causes them to try out pvp and get hooked – then this change worked perfectly.

The kind of prestige you want is going to come through eventual ladders. Soon™.

I’d rather them remove rank like they planned than instantly hand out 2,000 dragon rank finishers.

With how great they have been (sarcasm) with every update since release I just can’t wait to see what they have in store for us with ladder rewards (sarcasm).

:D

Tinfoil hat or not, this “pvp update” is going to increase sales and remove 1 of 2 things that were pretty much exclusive to the pvp community.

Chaith.8256:

You guys read the blog post.

_"…for a very small percentage of players, we’d like to congratulate you on becoming Tyria’s first group of dragons"

Hory shet, luckily I am one of the very small percentile who’s gotten Bear! I will accept this great prestige of Dragon rank, lol.

Who had any idea that a small percentage of players equated to 80% of the active pvp population?!?!

I’d love to see the exact number of these -special few-

Haha true. Some people have unique dye set ups.

Me? I prefer the… Abyss or celestial on everything XD

Good catch.

Arachnid.4062:

Lux.7169:

Arachnid.4062:

Lux.7169:

RoRo.8270:

Kyon.9735:

This is a bad change overall. So what will High Rankers aim for now that they will hit level cap? Even me, I’m just a Tiger ranked nobody but I’ll be boosted to Bear/Shark level after this patch. It feels like cheating.

Whatever happened to playing a game because you enjoy it? Oh I forgot you need your shiny pixels and bragging rights to make you feel special and the endless carrot on a stick or you will get paralyzed from the neck down.

What’s there to keep players after they remove this?

1 tournament a year that rewards basically the same 5 players as the previous year?

I’ll keep playing because I like the game and don’t really care whether or not I have some random pixels upon stomping an enemy… I dunno who was actually aiming to get dragon or used that as their only motivation to play… but they must be one crazy motherkittener…

Who said dragon was some people’s only motivation to play?

I asked a specific question, not one catered to you. What’s to keep players after they remove this? A less efficient way of farming pve loot?

We’re all still here because we love various features the game offers. Do you honestly not see why people would hate these changes?

The sign of a great debater is the ability to take on both sides of the issue at a moments notice. I can argue the opposite side all day long. If you truly understand this issue from both perspectives I’d love to hear you give me the strongest and most convincing counter-arguments to your claims. I’d love it if you’d indulge me.

You asked, and I quote: “What’s there to keep players after they remove this?”

My answer, in a nutshell: The gameplay.

You want to play quotes?
Q: What’s to keep players after they remove this (high rank caps)?
A: I will keep playing because I like the game

So your answer to what will keep players interested in the game is that you like the gameplay?

You either didn’t answer the question or tried to use inductive reasoning and apply it to everyone in a general fashion. I realize that you clarified it now but initially you took my question out of context because I don’t care what any particular individual wanted but rather what would keep the most active players in the PvP community.

Seriously though, I’d love to see you provide the biggest counter argument to your own claims. Or do you really not understand the other side? I realize you’d rather not put forth the time/effort but it would be interesting to see.

Arachnid.4062:

Lux.7169:

RoRo.8270:

Kyon.9735:

This is a bad change overall. So what will High Rankers aim for now that they will hit level cap? Even me, I’m just a Tiger ranked nobody but I’ll be boosted to Bear/Shark level after this patch. It feels like cheating.

Whatever happened to playing a game because you enjoy it? Oh I forgot you need your shiny pixels and bragging rights to make you feel special and the endless carrot on a stick or you will get paralyzed from the neck down.

What’s there to keep players after they remove this?

1 tournament a year that rewards basically the same 5 players as the previous year?

I’ll keep playing because I like the game and don’t really care whether or not I have some random pixels upon stomping an enemy… I dunno who was actually aiming to get dragon or used that as their only motivation to play… but they must be one crazy motherkittener…

Who said dragon was some people’s only motivation to play?

I asked a specific question, not one catered to you. What’s to keep players after they remove this? A less efficient way of farming pve loot?

We’re all still here because we love various features the game offers. Do you honestly not see why people would hate these changes?

The sign of a great debater is the ability to take on both sides of the issue at a moments notice. I can argue the opposite side all day long. If you truly understand this issue from both perspectives I’d love to hear you give me the strongest and most convincing counter-arguments to your claims. I’d love it if you’d indulge me.

RoRo.8270:

Kyon.9735:

This is a bad change overall. So what will High Rankers aim for now that they will hit level cap? Even me, I’m just a Tiger ranked nobody but I’ll be boosted to Bear/Shark level after this patch. It feels like cheating.

Whatever happened to playing a game because you enjoy it? Oh I forgot you need your shiny pixels and bragging rights to make you feel special and the endless carrot on a stick or you will get paralyzed from the neck down.

What’s there to keep players after they remove this?

1 tournament a year that rewards basically the same 5 players as the previous year?

IIvIIozzie.9250:

I can see your point Lux. I feel that while the wardrobe change initially seems like a good idea, I can see how they’ll sell transmutation charges for people’s gems/ RL monies. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how time consuming it will be to earn these charges before coming to a full conclusion.

But back to your point. It’s a pretty simple idea really. Lower the rank point requirements and you lower the value of the reward. But as I’ve mentioned in the past, this is what Arenanet has done consistently through their designs over the course of a decade. They make things challenging for a time but ultimately pander to the casual players because getting them to play their content by actually fixing the real issues is “too hard”.

Yeah, it’s an unfortunate trend.

Regardless of whether or not the gemstore/sales to pvp players had -any- influence on it, there’s definitely a possibility they will more than likely profit from this.

I appreciate your input on the matter.

Any sort of applicable reward would suffice IMO.

They used titles for QP’s in the past “Legend of the Arena” etc etc They could use something like that as well. QP’s of the past were just a measure of grind because it was just based on total wins in that system, so why not implement something for this grind?

I would love something like this.

sirflamesword.3896:

Lux.7169:

Well you never appeared in the top 1k so that’s probably why it didn’t show you.

Like you said, 1200 is close to 1300, and 40g is close to 63g. Let me keep 23g for the pvp unlocks? I won’t go back on my word though since you were only… a 100ish games off so if you want full 63 let me know here.

It may seem like I am against rewarding you all who put in the time and effort, but I really think you should, in rank up chests and other pvp only rewards, while also allowing people to have a realistic shot at maxing rank. I really do think everyone 60+, should have either gotten skins or a title that showed that they got it before the rank was changed. I think it is bs that you don’t, but I really feel the need to defend the rank changes for the health of pvp because I LOVE it(when it has a good meta).

And that’s where we meet on some common ground. If the devs had rewarded anyone above the threshold in SOME way it wouldn’t feel like we were being spited. Be it a title, rank chests, etc etc, but it almost seems as if they went out of their way—intentionally or not—to spite the players who invested the most time in their system.

My friends in-game keep asking me if I am quitting because of how vocal I am being on the forums today. I love the game, I love the flow and combat of pvp. I am not going to quit because I disagree with the direction these changes are taking the game, but I just want to voice my opinion while there is a chance for the devs to reconsider some of the actions they’re taking.

I honestly LOVE most of the changes. I am so excited I get to use my ghastly shield in pvp now, or can bring my quip over. It’s so exciting! I can’t believe we’re actually going to able to make progress towards legendaries in pvp now. That’s fantastic and I could praise them for enabling so many features I love. However, I choose to be vocal over this issue because to me it means something and I realize it does not mean much to many players, but to some of us it was one of the primary reasons we continued to play, through the bad patches and the good.

sirflamesword.3896:

FYI I didn’t say before LB’s(for some reason the leaderboard is screwed up for me), but before the rank points were increased. 80%+ were after Leaderboards were added. And I meant 1200 not 1300 so you don’t jump on me for that.

Well you never appeared in the top 1k so that’s probably why it didn’t show you.

Like you said, 1200 is close to 1300, and 40g is close to 63g. Let me keep 23g for the pvp unlocks? I won’t go back on my word though since you were only… a 100ish games off so if you want full 63 let me know here.

Chaith.8256:

JinDaVikk.7291:

Chaith: The PvP community would like a FIX the Titles so people’s accumulated rank points match the actual achievements (thrown off by PvP chest rank rewards)

I and phaeton would love the no chest bug fix give us retroactive rewards considering the thousand+ chests we lost. lol.

The no-chest bug? That was quite prolonged. And sloppy. I’d say you have a better chance of being an ice cube in hell than getting anything out of that can of worms.

All of my concerns in this thread might be.. less so, shall we say, if the Ladder rewards are actually prestigious like they’re #hyped to be. Time will tell.

inb4 they are as underwhelming as our fantastically implemented game mode: TDM.

You know, just a sloppy map they threw into custom arenas with no competitive support.

…I speak too soon.

sirflamesword.3896:

Lux.7169:

sirflamesword.3896:

Now I understand you, you are more focused on having something “few people have” instead of something you enjoy. Have fun with that mentality.

And you want what the elite have. Now you have it… well, except for the skills we achieved along the way.

You know, because you’ve never actually been in tpvp or solo Q. I just checked.

LOL sorry dude I’ve got less tourneys played than you but it’s still 1300(all of which before the update to rank points gained) so I’m not going to be dragon,but thats not what I wanted I wanted shark because I like it.

Print screen it. I’ll send you 63gold for the screenshot evidently from you. If they’re all before the LB came out you’ll have a lot of QP’s too.

Or add me to skype and you can share screen. Fast 63g to make.

sirflamesword.3896:

Now I understand you, you are more focused on having something “few people have” instead of something you enjoy. Have fun with that mentality.

And you want what the elite have. Now you have it… well, except for the skills we achieved along the way.

You know, because you’ve never actually been in tpvp or solo Q. I just checked.

BeardRex.6739:

From what I understood is that if a player has more rank points than it takes to get to 80, all those points go towards additional “levels”. Meaning that he’ll get the reward for 80 + rewards for each level over 80 that he has already earned.

This was discussed and confirmed to be incorrect by a dev in chaith’s thread.

Basically if what you are suggesting was implemented Chaith would get 237 lvl up chests. However, based on what the dev in his thread said, he will only be getting 9 chests since he is 9 level from 80.

Someone rank 55, however, will get 25 chests since he is 25 lvls from 80 when he gets bumped up to 80.

The ‘logic’ behind this is that Chaith has already received his lvl up chests for 55, 56, 57, etc, so they won’t be giving up more based on his total experience earned.

Pretty kittened up, but that’s the official word as of right now.

sirflamesword.3896:

Lux.7169:

They won’t do the recolors. They want people to spend money on gem shop rank finishers. If everyone has dragon what’s the point? That’s their logic at least.

Your logic fails right here, giving “everyone” dragon would be backwards, because if it’s even half as cool as phoenix and shark will anyone buy gem store finishers?

Perhaps if you read my thread about the gem shop conspiracy fueling the motivation behind such a random change to how the foundation of the rank system functions you would further understand my logic.

Logic doesn’t fail, it’s either well supported or it’s not. Plus, even if logic is not well supported or supported incorrectly, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

“I will win this match because the other team has 5 thieves!” poorly supported logic, but they could probably win. Correlation may not imply causation but it doesn’t mean it won’t.

Unless the dragon rank emote is phenomenal, I won’t be using it. You know, because tons of people will have it.

BlackBeard.2873:

Lux, I agree this might seem like a swift kick the gut as you previously went from being “among the top 100 players of rank” to “among the top 1000” or so. That is rough.

However, you are still among the top X players in terms of skill, so when ladders DO come you will get some kind of reward – and one that no skyhammer farmer ever could get!

The main point is that rank is now a goal to shoot for, but they will add other systems for the most competitive players to distinguish themselves! I think that could be win-win!

I agree with your approach and perspective and like it or not I am pretty much forced into your perspective as well since I can’t change what they’re doing, I just have to accept and move on.

Furthermore, since I know several of the players at my skill level and higher won’t be playing because of these changes, it will just make it that much easier to perform and place better in the ladder system and farm those rewards.

I definitely look forward to that, but while this problem is here and there is still time to fight for a change I want to know I was voicing my opinions and doing all I can to prevent this from happening if at all possible.

I definitely won’t quit the game. I may complain but I love the flow and combat. I just wish it had proper dev support. gw1 devs loved their game. I have no idea what these guys are doing. I’m sure people like grouch know what they’re doing and he is in no position to stop them so he has to try and convince us its an OK change.

Zirith.6429:

I really feel like the people that will be above the min for dragon should retroactively be awarded a chest for every 20k rank points they went over, the especially since the majority of their rank points came before they doubled the amount you could get per win and received no reward for all the extra work.

I like the recoloured /rank dragon idea, maybe every million after the initial dragon make the emote more awesome kind of like the /zrank in gw1.

They won’t do the recolors. They want people to spend money on gem shop rank finishers. If everyone has dragon what’s the point? That’s their logic at least.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Lux.7169:

Honestly this update (terrible pvp ‘rewards’ and max lvl achieved instantly by 2,000+ players) will mean a mass exodus of good players.

It will be hilarious farming the scrub dragons who think they’re good when ladder rewards come out.

you might think this is funny, but im sure someone who havent even set foot in pvp can kill any of you. I seen WvW player better than any rank 70+ i know. just because they dont grind so much rank points a day doesnt mean your better than them, it just mean you spend more time in pvp than any game modes.

The difference with sPvP and WvW is the gear. People in WvW get carried a-lot by stat differences. You can put two good players, but if one has full ascended and some legendary vs someone with green armor and rare weapons, obviously the person with the full ascended will have an advantage including the food bonuses you get. Put them in a balanced setting, and that changes. Nokitten on WvW players, I agree some of them are really good, but majority of them aren’t too great. I do PvE alot as well and probably one of the few people who have invested time into both as Rank 71, 2 legendaries, map completion atleast nearly 4 times, and over 8k tourney games played. I just hate being screwed over along with the rest of the others, but nothing much we can do. Like I said in the other posts, I don’t mind them making it easier to get to 80, I just don’t like how people who bought the game 2 months ago can reach 80 too. Who knows we might get rewarded differently, we’ll just have to see.

i know you marvin played the game like it suppose to be, rank71+ legandaries map completion, i have friends that are rank 70+ like super mang jose who i know since gw1 , avoa, or ostrich from isle of janthir who i see in the mist a lot. some players mistaken me for saying im better than them which im not. this is just a game if they claim to be better than others so be it, its your only oppinion but dont expect others to agree with you.

I have legendary quip and have achieve top 30 tQ and rank 1 solo Q several times. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say… Are you saying I haven’t pve’d because I had to get map completion to get a legendary… Are you saying I’m not good and get carried?

So are we going to duel? You claim to have killed me so many times. I’d literally be handing money to you to come stomp me.

Money match, let’s go. Less typing more dueling.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Lux.7169:

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Lux.7169:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

lux you played thief, i killed you many times in pvp you didnt even know… coz im not those who talk kitten players ingame. you dont have to prove anything. your going to be a good lawyer cause your already good at defending yourself lol.

I’ve never even heard of you.

I checked your MMR on LB and you’re not even in range to be in my brackets in team or solo Q.

Regardless, if I’m so easy to beat come money match me.
50g per single duel. Free money for you, right? Hey, you even have the added bonus of me being on DIAL UP INTERNET right now because I am visiting my parents. Seriously, if you turn down this ‘free 50g’ it just means you’re scared.

lol your such a scrub thinking MMr or leaderboard means your better than others. you wont rem. me cause i change charcter name like changing clothes. but believe me you suck very bad even you only play thief. and im not even a good player and i say that to you. sorry i no longer in top 100 cause i like to play other class and experiment other build instead of caring in only winning.

You’ve never been in top 100 I checked the LB History. No, you don’t change names because I checked LB history and you only played under 1 name: Names played with Martilyong Kamay

You realize the more you talk the more everyone else realizes how ridiculous you are, right?

So if you do play with other names… it’s in hotjoin. Because you have literally only ever done team or solo Q with 1 name according to LB history and your account has at no point since the implementation of LB ever been close to my MMR.

Did I say MMR meant anything? No. Did I say rank ever meant anything? No.

I said duel me for money if you’re going to talk kitten. A point which you continue to evade. Duel me for money and I’ll have a friend livestream it.

What’s your cap? We’ll duel until the other person runs out of gold.

So 50g per kill until one of us is empty.

lol all my toon have different names and yes my highest leaderbaord achived is r36 but i have no proof but lets say im rank 10k+ never did i say im better than you, im just saying your bad or suck at playing as a thief. only good thief i know caed, lipton, allejuah st, aeroxe. the rest are full of themselves.

Lol… no you haven’t. Glaphen literally just linked your profile on an alternate site.

Regardless of your MMR let’s go duel. 50g per kill until someone runs out of money. We’ll get a ref to just to make things fair. I’m waiting in my server, just search lux fortuna in the browser.

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How to crush the ambitions and pride of anyone who ever took GW2 pvp seriously.

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