Guild Wars 2

I wish they have out rewards for predictions. They did in gw1 and that helped create a ton of hype.

I thought this thread was from someone who remembered that on release there were actually 100 ranks in PvP including a rank 100 vendor up the stairs from where the r80 vendor used to be.

When you don’t even realize you press 5 when you down someone.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Lux.7169:

RedSpectrum.1975:

I’m sorry I have to comment on this, does anyone else notice that in this thread, there are two people who apparently, according to their signatures, have blue-haired thieves with Incinerator and Bolt?

And they’re making the exact same arguments to support each other.

Not like they’re buddies or anything

Since you responded, and this is somewhat off-topic, is the next podcast going to address our state in areas such as WvW now with respect to godforsaken ferocity? I feel as though our “roles” became a bit harder.

Nevermore is the one who pretty much prepares for the podcast and creates the agenda. I usually know what I’ll be talking about since I just talk about whatever is on my mind. I’ve been doing a lot of wvw lately since I want a mistforge wep and there’s no incentive for me to pvp.

That being said I am slightly biased since I run my niche build and unlike people with all ascended gear+food I don’t notice a terribly big difference since it doesn’t impact my build so much.

So to answer your question more directly, I think nevermore will definitely talk about it and we’ll examine how the update impacts the thief especially. However, I will be more centered on how the sigils will impact gameplay and perhaps a couple reviews on the new traits. So yeah, from me expect power creep and sigil talk and nevermore will almost for sure talk about the wvw thief with ferocity changes and force me to talk about various thief roles. Haha jk he’s a good guy and it’s fun to examine various builds, although perhaps this is a good opportunity to get a guest thief to talk about the ferocity nerf.

RedSpectrum.1975:

I’m sorry I have to comment on this, does anyone else notice that in this thread, there are two people who apparently, according to their signatures, have blue-haired thieves with Incinerator and Bolt?

And they’re making the exact same arguments to support each other.

Not like they’re buddies or anything

His agent? I don’t even like Caed nor his style. I don’t think his rune choice is optimal and I think he makes some poor rotation decisions in matches. I think Jumper was two tiers above everyone who played this game.

That aside, Caed has proved consistently throughout the years that he wins when it matters, at least on the NA side of things.

But sure, go ahead and grab a partner and beat him in the weekly 2v2s. He’s won over 24,000 gems from those the past few months.

Or, you know, beat his team in the legendary tournament for a free legendary weapon. He’s the best player on his team so if there are tons of hidden pro wvw talent form a team. Rotations are ridiculously easy. It’s even easier if you win your team fight and 1v1s.

If.

I think it’s funny that tons of these ‘superior’ thieves are just letting Caed farm all the money and gems in the game. He’s won over 24,000 gems in the weekly 2v2 tourney and $2,500 through the PAX tourney and also won the flight + VIP treatment at PAX.

So if there are clearly tons of better thieves why let him have all the glory? Rotations are extremely easy for thieves to learn. Caed rarely team fights so that’s sort of a moot point too. Are all of these wvw thieves just too busy to farm the high end prizes in GW2?

Start winning thief tournaments or any sort of tournament or money or gems and perhaps you’ll have more ground to talk.

T raw.4658:

Lux.7169:

Jumper is phenomenal. The drawback being that he quit about 8 months ago. As it is now on the NA scene try to catch Caed while he’s streaming or winning the weekly 2v2s.

Lots of people praise some wvw thieves but they rarely stream and those that do are pretty awful.

Like others said, it’s easy to get 1vXX when you have hundreds of hours of footage to go through. Especially running a high stealth intensive thief.

I distinctively remember Caed getting destroyed 1v1 by a lot of WvW thieves. Granted this was quite awhile ago but it trumps your statement.

Where’s the proof? Make big claims show some proof.

I money match people all the time. Bring your wvw thieves and come farm me for gold. Message me in game.

Jumper is phenomenal. The drawback being that he quit about 8 months ago. As it is now on the NA scene try to catch Caed while he’s streaming or winning the weekly 2v2s.

Lots of people praise some wvw thieves but they rarely stream and those that do are pretty awful.

Like others said, it’s easy to get 1vXX when you have hundreds of hours of footage to go through. Especially running a high stealth intensive thief.

Except with the effort it takes them to afk they could make x100 more gold in PvE.

They made a topic saying they will issue full gem refunds for clothes turned to tonics, among other things.

I submitted my support ticket yesterday. Got my gems fully refunded this morning.

I did not have to beg. I just let then know I wanted a refund. They were helpful and quick.

Maybe because he used frenzy? I find it odd that we know nothing about what the OP’s class is because if he used frenzy it would make perfect sense.

I didn’t care enough to look at the screenshot more than a second though, so maybe I missed something.

I think the main issue is that some of us are using 1-3 full bank tabs holding these and we don’t know if that annoyance will really be worth the wait.

If they communicated to us and gave us an idea of what to expect then we could make a more informed decision as to whether or not we should continue to clutter our banks or free the space up

have you logged in to all of your characters and taken them into hotm? Sometimes its buggy.

If it’s still not there after doing that I would file a support ticket.

Mastermavrick.2439:

Lux.7169:

Mastermavrick.2439:

/shrug always been that way since GW1

In gw1 they changed it so you could /rank 1 to do deer, etc etc etc

Huh must have been after i stopped actively playing then ><"

Yeah it was implemented after a lot of players had left.

Mastermavrick.2439:

/shrug always been that way since GW1

In gw1 they changed it so you could /rank 1 to do deer, etc etc etc

They want to make dragon look awful so everyone buys gemshop finishers.

anetlogic.

garganor.9824:

Lux.7169:

New build is up!!! Downloading it now!

4,300 files GOGOGOGO

Lies, you made me go look

made you look

/child humor

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New build is up!!! Downloading it now!

4,300 files GOGOGOGO

One of them played monk in a game where losses were littered with “BLAME THE MONK”

What do you bet they don’t even have the dragon rank emote ready. That would be the icing on the cake for this update.

First player to log in becomes worlds second dragon rank.

kirito.4138:

1,111,500 rank points for R80.

Assuming you have a 1,500 rank a win , 500 rank a loss & 50% W/L ratio

it will take you ~1,111 games to reach R80 via solely team arena.

You being R39 after a thousand match is a bit skewed because that probably included time played before the increased the rank for matches.

Ooops my math was flawed since I used the devs (800 wins = dragon) since he was referring to just pure wins no losses.

With the 1,111 games to dragon (50% winrate) it would take ~275 hours if you get 4 games per hour.

Look at it this way:

They increased the amount of rank gained (from release) by nearly 800%

They decreased amount of rank required to reach dragon by ~700%

So not only are you getting rank 800% faster, you only have to get ~25% of what was originally the max.

Still hard? It’s eons easier to get than before. I would have had it last year, and I probably would have stopped pvp’ing at that point in time. I could have gotten ~3-5 legendaries if I had cared to pve with the amount of time I spent going from 53-65.

I did some light math the other day. Dev said less than 800 wins in tQ = Dragon from 1-80.

800 wins assumign 50/50 winrate = 1600 games. Average games per hour (if you’re looking at LB when they update for a team that Q’s back-to-back) = 4games per hour.

1600/4 = 400 hours.

Dev said less than 800 games so less than 400 hours to go from 1-80. So that’s what? The time it takes to craft 1-2 legendaries?

To put it in perspective I’ve got a game-time played of ~4,200. about 500 was from pve/wvw.

While it’s nice seeing the names of teams competing it doesn’t really do much for me, since team names are so volatile and very few are recognizable.

I am genuinely curious who is playing in this tournament. If you are on a team or know who is on a team could you share that information?

Naga Stole Ma Bike:
-Mgorem
-Bowser/Ransack
-Degoking
-Lux
-Seravy

I wasn’t aware that a gw1 common enemy creature was censored. My bad I guess.

Plus if you pve any you already have lots of charges (unless you used your transmutation stones… which is hard to do IMO). Plus if you pve you most likely already have quite a few sets for so many classes you’re already happy with and armor you have equipped in pve will stay equipped, so that’s more or less a moot point.

I’d say 95% of my time in gw2 is spent in pvp but I have pve’d enough and randomly have ~150 charges (between the two types of transmutation stones) for when the update goes live.

BLUna.7928:

Hey guys. So first off I want to apologize for keeping people in the dark. I have been speaking with a lot of people over the past few days to see what we could change considering the limited time span, and I didn’t want to say anything without being 100% sure this is the way we were going to take it. With that here is exactly how things are going to go down:

• The brackets for each region will have 64 teams
• Up to 8 of these slots will be reserved on each region. When we release the teams that will be chosen (on the 15th) I will be saying exactly who these teams are and why they were given those slots.
• The other 56+ slots will be chosen randomly among teams that have full rosters submitted by the signup’s closing date (Please keep in mind that you can still add/edit your roster by emailing me at john@mistpedia.net). Teams that are chosen via this process will receive an email from myself on Tuesday, these will act as a way for teams to RSVP for the event. Teams will have until 8PM EDT on April 17th to respond with a confirmation of their participation, if they do not respond teams will be added from the backlog, so there is still a chance for teams to get in if we have a lack of a response or a declined invitation from a team that was initially chosen.
• The brackets will be seeded manually by Mistpedia staff.

To ensure 100% validity of the randomization process I will be streaming Monday night after the signups close with the selection process, so if you would like to find out early if your team will be playing you will be able to tune in on my stream when I do this on Monday night (ill post an actual time once I know my own schedule for Monday night)

ArenaNet will be talking a little bit more about this on the next episode of Ready Up, so if you guys still have any unanswered questions or concerns feel free to tune in on there, and as always if you guys have anything you would like addressed personally you can send me a tell in game or email me. Thanks again for your patience in waiting for this response.

As well just to keep people in the loop here are the current signup stats:

• 194 Full Teams (I still have to check for uniqueness on these so possibly minus out 5-10 teams from that)
• 33 Partial Teams

Quick question: On the signups it said that a 6th player was optional. Do you need a sub/6th to be considered a full team?

Sunshine.5014:

Branden Gee.2150:

Some work was done to address this issue. Once the feature patch is released you will need to play a few matches in order for the achievement rank to match parity with your actual rank.

I love this person already. More programmers talking on the forums, and less “coordinators” talking please! Programmers like Branden, Evan, and Justin talk to the point, not just pr craps.

This.

Tired of hearing what the devs would “like” to do. I like it when people who can get things done let us know what they’re doing.

I just read a thread in the engineer forum that’s been going on for over a year now where several devs have gone in and commented on what they’d like to be done about it… but nothing has ever happened.

They all hit r53

Rank has never reset.

Darek.1836:

Lux.7169:

Chaith.8256:

Lux.7169:

I’m in-game now. Let’s roll.

Hey, I’m 50g richer now. I am a poor pvp player so I’ll take what I can. I actually had to borrow 47g from someone to bet XD

ya no thieves were on so i just fought him on my guard where he pretty much sat in SB and casted thieves guild for most of the fight

Yeah just let me know when these thieves are on for some money matches.

Chaith.8256:

Lux.7169:

I’m in-game now. Let’s roll.

Hey, I’m 50g richer now. I am a poor pvp player so I’ll take what I can. I actually had to borrow 47g from someone to bet XD

Darek.1836:

Lux.7169:

Darek.1836:

not gonna say I’m disagreeing but I’m disagreeing. just look at caed and toker, tons of wvw thieves can beat them 1v1 8+/10 times.

Oh sweet, you should money match me. 50g per kill. I’m not even at caed’s level so this should be easy gold for you.

ok

Rickster.8752:

Darek.1836:

Mike.4830:

Rickster.8752:

Rezz.8019:

Rickster.8752:

Not trolling but maybe I didn’t think things through clearly. I get your point. But I also think it would be a shame if newbies come to the pvp and just get demoralised by being trashed 500-0 or by practicing and then being told that sorry they didnt get a place because they weren’t “known”.

In short, this tournament SHOULD cater to the casuals and newbies imo. It is what the game needs

I agree with this. And who is to say someone is known or not? I doubt he knows Karmy and his SW guildies, or June guild, or UC, or many, many others who definitely have a decent chance of beating everyone, including “known” teams.

Also, I believe that Anet guys would organise this much, much better. At least they are not teenagers and have way more experience with this. I hope they will get inspired and host the next one, properly.

But I still have hope that this one will work out. Let’s see if it will be what it was advertised to be or it will be some type of yet another boring invitational with same teams as always.

Disagree, it can be organised well by the community especially with Blu who is really good. So I dont think anything needs to change in that respect.

But I had kind of hoped this tournament would bring new players into pvp from pve and wvw. I would love if this was the aim of the tournament. But if they aim is simply to reward those most hardcore players then fine. That is cool too, just a missed opportunity from my point of view.

The best 2/3 players I have ever play with or against are all people who rarely PvP but spend most of their time in WvW or PvE. And I have played with or against everyone of any renown in PvP. The fact is PvE and WvW have a way bigger player base so it is no surprise that the absolute best/most talented guys come from these game modes. The problem is that the barrier to entry for them is huge and they tend to love rewards. If this tournament could bring these people, and others who aren’t as talented, into spvp (finally) then we could really see esports get going.

First of all, I have no idea who you are, and im certain I have never lost to you or your “renown” friends. Secondly the reason Pvers dont play PvP is because they are inclined to continue clicking their skills. As far as WvW, there is little to no skill required in zergs and roamers are still not near the lvl of pvpers. WvWers rely on broken stats and gear, and are quite inferior to PvP. Even guilds like Apex, which was orignally PvP only has transitioned to WvW because they were not top tier pvpers. However in WvW they are very good.. You WvWers and PvErs will soon learn your place in the skill heirachy.
-Backpack

not gonna say I’m disagreeing but I’m disagreeing. just look at caed and toker, tons of wvw thieves can beat them 1v1 8+/10 times.

1v1 thief <> good spvp thief. If they can’t play well with a team they are just a scrub. You do realize most spvp players don’t play builds with the intent of winning 1v1s? They play builds for team comp and then try to win with it in any scenario (teamfight/1v1). So yeah, let’s make a big deal about thieves who dedicate their build for 1v1s winning against thieves who play versatile builds for actually winning the game mode we play under. Maybe when DM comes up, then bring it up.

Back on topic, I don’t see why we can’t push this tournament later and put in qualifiers. It’s not like the rewards are gonna disappear if we wait.

pretty much all theives run 10 30 0 0 30 or 10 0 0 30 30 so idk what you’re talking about

I’m in-game now. Let’s roll.

Darek.1836:

not gonna say I’m disagreeing but I’m disagreeing. just look at caed and toker, tons of wvw thieves can beat them 1v1 8+/10 times.

Oh sweet, you should money match me. 50g per kill. I’m not even at caed’s level so this should be easy gold for you.

applecup.3047:

Darksteel.8412:

you don’t deserve rank in 2 month’s of casual play…dedication is what should be rewarded

you don’t get r80 in “2 months of casual play”. granted I am more casual than the average casual, but i’ve been playing casually since the start of this year and am r23. at this rate it’ll be about ten years before i am r80, assuming my casual self doesn’t find something better to do with my time.

‘the hardcore pvp’ crowd really need to calm down.

10 years? If you do the math it will take about 360 hours to go from 1-80 assuming roughly a 50% winrate in yolo Q’s.

My wife just finished up an art-piece for me. I thought I’d share her finished work with the community!

Chaith.8256:

BLUna.7928:

Venus In Furs.9756:

Thinking ahead, I really do think the number of entrants is a “good problem” to have, but obviously it calls for some sort of contingency plan.

I absolutely agree. The issue of having too many teams has yet to happen in a guild wars 2 tournament, and while its certainly a great thing (that it’s happening), one of the biggest things ill be taking away from this event is how to handle a scenario such as this.

If I could provide any possible suggestion as to select the most deserving teams for the potentially limited seats:

• At a public, specified time, take a snapshot of individual player’s rating according to the leaderboards.
• That snapshot would include the player’s Solo Queue and Team Queue rating. The greater one would be chosen.
• Add each player’s value to ceate a cumulated team value. Assign a new value to every team. Take the top 32, 64, 96, 128, 160, 192 valued teams, or to infinity and beyond, as indicated by the time & resource constraints.

With this method, teams would have a known period and deadline to qualify themselves just simply by playing the game. If your team only intends to PvP for the tournament, (and you PvE/WvW for all of your other gameplay sessions), then accept whatever limitations are imposed. If schedules don’t accommodate Team Queue practice, Solo Queue during free time is a viable way for individual team members to raise the team’s value.

I think something like this would be the most fair approach to this issue.

It gets rid of all forms of non-LB biases and would supposedly allow players and teams enough time to get a fair amount of games in to showcase their true MMR on that given period of time.

While many people have issues with the MMR system, I would definitely support this approach as opposed to any others that immediately come to mind.

IMO if he can’t handle the task at hand then there’s plenty of others who can step up to organize this event. It’s really not that complicated.

Anet said they would love to see 100 teams enter and participate. They even implied that if 100 teams entered then all teams would be accommodated.

Chaith.8256:

In my humble opinion, seeing as it’s Blu who is:

• Tasked himself with finding help in filling the role of game admins.
• Apparently not receiving custom arenas from Anet to host preliminary matches for unlimited players to slug it out.

I find it quite strange that people could possibly request for everyone who signs up to be accommodated.

In the RU anet said they’d love to see 100 teams sign up and participate.

If CA’s are the problem I’m sure there are dozens available to him if he asked. If its admins or help scheduling, the help is there if he cares to ask.

What’s your solution to the issue, then? Completely random? First come first serve? Highest ranked teams/players? Reserve spots for 1-2 teams and RNG the rest?

Bart Weird.9671:

So basically the consensus in this thread is to punish people who want to try out tpvp and took the effort to form a team? I thought this tournement should bring in some fresh air, pls enlighten me.

My impression is that people are torn on the issue since almost no one agrees on how it should be handled.

Personally I think there should be qualifying matches that allow all teams the ability to make it to the final 16/32.

It seems like the point of this topic is being missed. It’s not so much about the legitimacy of the leaderboards as much as it is about yolo Qing tQ is more efficient with rank gain and gold gain (assuming you are hot joining while you wait for a Q to pop) than solo Qing.

As an avid yolo Q’r I have had no problem maintaining nearly a 60% winrate. You only need a 25% winrate to consistently get more rank and gold than a 50% winrate in solo Q would yield.

Thus, unless you’re obsessed with appearing high on the sQ leaderboards constantly, it makes more sense to solo enter tQ—unless… you are obsessed about not blemishing your tQ rank… Or really like skyhammer

Conditions were not a problem in gw1 because… if you brought proper condition removal it would shut down condition builds. If you didn’t bring enough then you would lose battles of attrition.

Whereas in gw2 if you don’t bring enough condi removal you die in ~15-25 seconds.

If you do bring enough condi removal you typically won’t have enough damage to beat a condi class and lose the battle of attrition anyway. So everyone runs heavy condi and whatever removals they can bring and it creates the stale meta we’ve been stuck with the last 10 months.

Yeah, here’s an example of how off it is (and the website even says the data for highest rank is off since it only started recording jan 28th 2014).

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/DivineSeraphim/r1Lux_zps963f86c1.png

compared to: http://www.gw2score.com/PvP/player/Lux7169

It’s not like I was just r1 for an hour too, I’ve hit it several times the past few months but lots of these sites are bad at recording rank placements.

glaphen.5230:

ghaleon.2861:

Obsidia.5127:

ghaleon.2861:

Also everybody knows that being on LB doesn’t mean anything about your individual skill level.

So true

That’s what bad players like to believe to make themselves feel better.

I’ve been top of the gw2 LB 10000000000000000 times, so that’s what you like to say to make yourself feel better about the truth. Sounds to me like you’re in denial, and can’t face the truth.

http://www.gw2score.com/PvP/player/ghaleon2861
Top is 66 and 67 now?

As useful as that site is, it only started saving highest rank late January of this year. One sixty iq aka ghaleon has been on hiatus the past few months and only recently returned.

Long Q’s? Mine are TONS faster than solo Q pops.

I realize that if you play during dead hours both will give you long Q’s but for me yQ’s pop faster than sQ’s.

until there’s incentive to actually place high on the LB, I’ll always yolo Q over solo Q.

SaMaeL.4275:

Even after the 18th march pvp patch, pvp titles are still bugged?
I ve noticed that after a teamQ win only 300 rp go towards the title. Does this mean that I will have to farm my way to 60-65 to get the Marauder title even though i have acquired way more than the 723,500 points required for Marauder?

Is this working as intended and if not when are they finally gonna fix it? It has been like that for as long as I can remember…

You’ll be r80 in 10 days and will have Legendary Champion, so yeah, it’s a moot point.

Style.1092:

I’m a little bit confused. Previously was said that
quote “We’ll open sign-ups to everyone, but only 16 teams per region will make it into the Tournament (subject to change)”,
so for me was obvious that there must be some kind of qualifiers before tournament to exclude weak teams like my own, but there is not even one word about qualifiers to the tournament, so i assume that if there will be 100 teams signed up, so brackets will be extended to accommodate all teams ?

That’s the impression I got from the RU, despite how unrealistic that sounds to execute. I imagine there would be some sort of qualifiers if we get over 16 teams but I guess we’ll see how many sign up and commit.

I remember anet saying they’d love it if 100 teams signed up to participate. That obviously wouldn’t be able to fit into 1 weekend of tournaments, though.

Seeing other people’s keybinds makes my brain hurt…

I’m sure mine would make people go wtf as well, I won’t even try spelling it out.

Mine is niched to my thief mostly on my mouse for the burst and useful things like look behind, etc. I’ve made it so easy to burst on my mouse that I just roll my thumb to execute it.