Guild Wars 2

PlatinumMember.5274:

SPESHAL.9106:

He definitely deserves credit for great work with the Necro. The Reaper/Shouts/GS are all well done…especially for still being in Beta.

The profession now has some new playstyles that are powerful and unique, yet still have weaknesses and counterplay.

As for Mesmers, they also got a unique playstyle that is super powerful. However, when you look at the profession as a whole, he may have gone too far. There really isn’t much reason to play anything else because no other profession has this combination of baseline/spec options which covers almost all game play:

1. Great condi specs
2. Great power specs
3. Great AOE specs
4. Great team support specs
5. Almost all insta cast spells
6. Super low cooldowns on heals which also heal high % of hp
7. Low cooldowns on virtually all utilities including elites
8. Lots of damage from range AND up close
9. Highest AI damage of any profession
10. Longest Stealth of any profession except some thieves
11. Greatest mobility options for both team and solo
12. Tons of 100% scaling defenses that work regardless how many people attacking u
13. Movement impairing skills, interrupts and overall slows
14. Great specs for duels and 1v1 style play
15. Ability to initiate almost every fight as well as disengage from almost every fight

And here’s the 3 biggest kickers that they have over virtually every other profession….

16. Ability to do significant damage while immune/invulnerable on short cooldowns (via tons of AI)
17. Ability to do significant damage while stealthed (again via tons of AI). Actually, they can do it for longer periods than even a thief with thieves guild or ranger with pets while briefly stealthed via longbow 3

If there is another profession that can do all that just by changing specs, let me know.

Except that most of these things he isn’t responsible for.
Those existed before he became lead Mesmer designer. The only thing we know he is responsible for is chronomancer.

So what exactly is your point? If you want whine go do it in another thread.

Necro might not be perfect but it has never felt as good to be necro since he took over officially. So again, wrong place and guy for the QQ.

Agreed!

Sarlack.4096:

Hiya Donee! (It’s Kaloria)

Fun watch Sir, now I know who you are on the boards. Since I see you in WvW/PvP all the time. =D

Oh, hi there!
Thanks, i am a bit rusty on my ranger. Have been months i don’t play it, mostly spvp daily and that is all.

Hello, guys. A long time i don’t post here. Taking the dust off my ranger and playing the Druid on BWE3.
I only played druid for a couple hours and i must say, i did enjoy it a lot! The Anet Devs are actually doing a great job on specializations.

tAzz.8497:

weeee conditions. clap clap

yeaaa #Geelieve

Nibiru.5017:

Hello! I started my necro 2 days ago. Actually I have 15 lvl and dont know, which skills and utilities are better… Which weapon is recommended on these lvls? I have now a dagger and a warhorn.
Thank you in advance for your help!

When i level i always use minions. They are just great for it.

Same build, different runes(perplexity or grenth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBrM7mBzL-E

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

The main thing with what Gee has been doing is actually not buffing what was already good. Notice, for example, that the balance changes have not touched a single Spectral skill, Dagger, or Wahorn.

What he has been buffing, though, is our underused and weak skills and traits. Buffing the weak stuff while not touching the good is what really brings build diversity.

And really? Necros probably have the most build variety of any profession now.

#Geelieve then?

Lahmia.2193:

Matt Stacey.7415:

Absolutely. Minor things could be improved for quality of life, but I do love feeling like a true reaper. I’m anticipating a bunch of flame from the elitists, but oh well – who gives a kitten what they think? Reaper is incredibly fun and is worth buying HoT for that reason alone

It’s the reason I preordered.

Same here.

Let’s get hyped together.

We all agree Robert Geezus gave us, necromancers, hope!

A Tribute to Robert Gee. Just a nice thing for our necro dev, Robert Gee. The first dev who actually listen and cares about necromancer.

Sometimes my Death’s Charge works as intended. Fast travel and no clunky at end. But then sometimes it works like on BWE2. Slow travel and clunky.

No Corrupt Boon? Blasfemy!
We want reaper, not necromancer! \o/

Some duo roaming before BWE3. A mix of old and not so old gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxlkZEkK5KA

Mikkel.8427:

I was having a lot of fun with Scepter last night, but it still has the same glaring issue… TERRIBLE life force generation.

Yeah. Maybe we should get something like 5% LF on scepter auto attack.
Daggers get 8% LF on the full auto attack chain and its attack fast as hell.
Since scepter attacks slower but its also a ranged weapon, i think 5% is pretty reasonable.
Other than that, scepter is doing great now.

EremiteAngel.9765:

I run a power scepter build and losing the additional damage per condition is just…dots…
I used to be able to crit 4-5k damage after Signet of spiting the enemy with FOC but now…I’ll be lucky with…I don’t know…2k damage?

the additional torment stacks got nothing to do with me.

please bring back the old scepter 3 Feast of corruption that gives 8% additional damage per condition

Hell no, bro! lol

Dreaming serpent.5197:

Corrosive Poison Cloud also destroys treb shots in kylo, yet to be tested in wvw, but should probably destroy siege shots (treb, cata, ext)

That is certainly useful!

I am trying to gather all errors or bugs about necromancers on this 09/29 patch in one single post. Please feel free to add relevant things if you find them.

Unholy Feast: Decreased the recharge from 15 seconds to 12 seconds.
It’s not applying on the trait: Spiteful Spirit, as it should be.

Lich Form and Plague has wrong name on tooltip.

Feast of Corruption tooltip is not showing the correct damage for torment if target is moving.

I use this trait and its pretty amazing, specially in Reaper.
And yea, i think they forgot to add the cd reduction on trait as well, because the trait always have been modified as axe #3 weapon skill.

Rym.1469:

Lynnie.7213:

I don’t think it will still be worthy taking it. With Reaper’s Death’s Charge you can corrupt 2 boons every 5 seconds. There is no chance for MoC there.

What if I don’t go for Reaper? Or what if I don’t really need that much sustained boon corruption, but want one that instantly shreds all the boons? CB corrupting everything would be used on regular basis with many builds. 5 with amount of boons flying around means that you often still have to use second boon corruption to shut down the boonage and you don’t have 100% that you will corrupt that stability into fear, same with 2 boon corruption.

If you don’t go reaper then MoC is okay. I’ve already tested it for a couple weeks in WvW and give you a nice sustain but that blind on heal is bullkitten. Necros being the slowest attacking profession in the game, blind is just awful.
But if you go reaper, PoC is just superior.

I don’t think it will still be worthy taking it. With Reaper’s Death’s Charge you can corrupt 2 boons every 5 seconds. There is no chance for MoC there.

If we are talking strictly about dps, i’d say power builds. If you don’t have to worry about other stuffs like soft CC, survivability.
Like in Pve, power builds with greatsword will be the highest for sure.
Using Berserker or Valkyrie.

Rym.1469:

I know how to be a kitten. Everywhere in the game.

I play a Charr.

kitten , you got me there. lol
I can’t wait to HoT releases so i can make my first charr as revenant.

Inflames.8026:

great vid as usual Donee! :] Very entertaining

Thanks, bro. Glad you enjoyed.

GrandPat.7916:

Love your vids!!!

Thanks. Drop that like on youtube page and i’ll love you forever!

Hello, peeps. I put together a simple video this weekend using a mix of necromancer and reaper gameplay. Don’t take this video seriously, of course. It’s just a fun mini montage. Hope you enjoy and thanks for watching.

Man, we should get happy. We are finally getting the buffs we asked for so long. Finally a Dev who is actually hearing us. Be happy, peeps!
And yes, i don’t think those are the only changes to come on scepter.

Yeah, feast of corruption got me all hyped! That is like insta 7 torment stacks.

God bless your soul, Robert Gee.
Finally a buff on our condition weapon. Very well done!
And now reaper’s will have access to torment.

I feel GS is amazing. Definitely going to use this in Spvp and Pve.

Plague all the way!
Safe stomp/ress, aoe blind/weakness for team support.

Rym.1469:

I’d say it’s way easier to beat Reaper Necromancer than Necromancer without Reaper. First one can look dangerous, but once you get the idea how to rotate, Rev should deal with RS without huge problems. It’s harder against DS, tho.

Reaper’s weakness is the meele range, but the offense compared to regular necromancer is unfair. I deal a lot more damage as reaper on condi build than on necromancer, but i gotta stay on target, that is the tricky part.

Epic battles vs revenant in the last BWE. It was great to have a chance to fight that profession and learn so much about it. Things that i couldn’t even imagine.
Check this out … to the death!

Ravezaar.4951:

Gz on 1k Subs, already said so in the Vid but nice and cant wait for those Reaper Vidz comming after HoT

Thanks, mate.
Neither can i. I have to play singleplayer games while wait for HoT. ;(

Here is some power reaper gameplay. It was so much fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASz-dupk0M

1000 subscribers … thank you for your support!
Enjoy this special video.

Kodama.6453:

Tim.6450:

Lynnie.7213:

What i am most mad at scrapper and others specializations and ofc Anet because they did it, is that they are trying to kill condition builds slowly.
Berserkers can remove 3 conditions every 4 seconds if they play it right.
Scrappers now can remove 2 conditions every 3 seconds …

No condition build will kill them once everyone learn their classes, unless the player sucks.

Oh don’t you worry engineer is cursed with double kit and elixer S will always be strong contender so I’m not worried about the gyro. The hammer on the other hand, …. .

I do share your sentiment with the condition hate in this game though.

You guys realize that there will be a gyroscope for this? Kill the gyroscope, no condi clean. It’s simple.

Yeah, kill the gyro and its done. But as the dev said: “they’ll have a good amount of health” and get even stronger via others skills and traits, like aoe protection.
On a power build you probably can kill that fast enough, on a condition build depending on its sustain, i don’t know …
And that trait -20% condition damage taken … lool

What i am most mad at scrapper and others specializations and ofc Anet because they did it, is that they are trying to kill condition builds slowly.
Berserkers can remove 3 conditions every 4 seconds if they play it right.
Scrappers now can remove 2 conditions every 3 seconds …

No condition build will kill them once everyone learn their classes, unless the player sucks.

Charblaze.6958:

Reaper traded ranged damage for AoE melee damage. Personally I find Reaper shroud was designed way better than our base shroud so it’s a really good trade.

Agree with you. Reaper shroud is just better designed than death shroud.
But can be easily kited around by a good player.

Ravezaar.4951:

yea have same feeling, current necro just aint the same when u tasted Reaper… but still have Guild Raids in WvW so I do login for those.

Give us back Reaper or RIOT!

Man, you guys can’t be happy with anything? Reaper is a HUGE buff on necromancers and other professions are indeed trading up stuffs. Not all of them, but some are.
And tbh, chrono and reaper are the best specialization so far.

Dead.5829:

Lynnie.7213:

I can’t wait for next BWE, i am not even logging in gw2 anymore.

Same :’(

Open game
Log in
Get daily login rewards
Play 1 pvp match for dailies
Log out
Try to login to beta character, get denied
Sigh sadly
Close game

Exactly the same here.
2 spvp matches per day is all i have been doing ever since HoT BWE2. Dailies and get out.
Just not fun anymore … reaper got my soul!

Only thing that will not happen is the mob get slowed moviments, but our chill dmg will still kicks in. I am fine with that.
Would be weird if a raid boss can be kited around because fo chill, tbh.

Ravezaar.4951:

Very nice Build Guide Donee, keep the Vidz comming

Thanks, mate. I tried my best there. Speak english is so hard to me, i bet 99% of peopel doesn’t understand a thing what i am talking, so subtitles ftw!
I can’t wait for next BWE, i am not even logging in gw2 anymore.

A build that deals 10k damage without cooldown … how awesome is that?
Hello, everyone, a lot of people have been asking me about my reaper power build. The one i used in one of my previous video. And i am more than happy to share it with you. Here you have a explained guide about the build i used.
Check that out!

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Dadnir.5038:

The scepter need a rework, expecially for the way it grant you Life Force, because it’s only skill to give us LF is situationally and work bad, inflicting only damage and no conditions in a pure condi weapon.

I really really hate your statement about the scepter. The scepter have power damage as well as condition damage, this is not by definition a pure condition weapon. It seem that you don’t want other player to enjoy playing this weapon as a power weapon or an hybrid weapon which is totally possible atm (note that it’s just not optimal). If anything the scepter need better scalling on it’s auto attack, nothing more, nothing else. Feast of corruption may be tricky to use but the AA attack speed is enough to be able to destroy an aegis before using it.

The axe, on the other hand is a total mess as a weapon. It would be 100 time better if it was a melee weapon instead of what it is at the moment.

NB.: Last BWE I played with the scepter and it was totally fine. The reaper is not a ranged specialization, change your habit and use scepter to catch your breath in dire need and then swap to a melee weapon that build LF faster. By the way, soul mark grant you LF, not the staff. If you use the staff without this trait you’ll starve for LF as much as you starve for LF with a scepter.

You are either in the wrong class forum, have never played necro or are trolling.

Scepter is a pure condition damage weapon. It does less than one stack of non-moving torment in direct damage. a level 60 regens more health per second than scepter inflicts in direct damage.

Scepter is a pure condition weapon that needs a boost in its condition component. It takes so long to build up stacks using scepter that 90% of enemies are either dead or have cleansed your conditions by the time you have put enough on the target to do anything. skill 2 is ok, but the long cast time makes it hard to land for what it does. Skill 3 is completely useless and needs to be redone.

I would suggest skill 3 gains torment, better LF gain, and less direct damage. maybe one stack base, 2 stacks if at least one condition on the target, and 4 stacks if more than 3 conditions are on the target.

Skill 2 can stay, maybe inflict one extra stack of bleed.

Skill 1 needs either an extra bleed stack or decreased cast times.

^

Spectral walk hands down best WvW skill.

I think only things we reapers are in need now is a rework or buff on scepter and axe. Because with reaper line the majority of our problems got solved.

A scepter rework would be nice for condi reaper, i felt it was really weak in last BWE. I mostly camp staff and Shroud.

What you guys think?

Man, Robert Gee is really doing a great job on Reaper. He is the one dev that is actually listening to the community. The changes on CttB are everything what we asked for. Pretty reasonable.
Now the only change is missing is CttB work underwater. We don’t want to always use plague underwater, CttB could have some nice use and fits the thematic, since you can think as “freezing the water”.

Good job, man!

ArcNeon.8093:

Lynnie.7213:

ArcNeon.8093:

For those of you who have tried out the reaper, what are the advantages and disadvantages between the condi and power reaper builds? I’d like to start buying gear but I’d like more information first. I’m going to be doing a lot of WvW, small and large scale.

I played both builds and what i can tell you is entirely my own opinion. So others may have different opinions, okay?

Power reaper is strong, i think its even stronger than condition, damage wise. Its very tanky and sustain in SHroud, but outside shroud your defense is still low, so you’ll be taking lots of damage, specially if focused.

As condition reaper, you have the same tankiness in shroud and outside of shroud you keep tanky, different from power build. Your damage is slower but very consistent.
As condi reaper i was able to 1v4 sometimes in BWE2 and as power reaper i was able to kill people in 3 or 4 seconds.

So its up to you.

I have 2 videos about both builds gameplay here. Check it out:

Power: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nASz-dupk0M

Condition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBrM7mBzL-E

So from the looks of it, if I want to use the great-sword a power build would be preferred. Does the chill from the great-sword abilities not translate well into a condi build?

Yeah, greatsword is a power based weapon. Is not a good use for a condi build.
The chill from greatsword is more of an utility, providing life force via traits and slowing your enemies so you keep them close for the big hits.

I am working on a guide on my power reaper build as we chat. Stay tuned on my channel to check that out on the coming days.

Aw yesh, we were beast this day. I am not slow with editing, just have another projects on the way before this one, old man! haha

PS.: I know you are not old … kay!?