Guild Wars 2

Seems a lot better than the previous one, specially for minionmancer. But gotta wait and see.

Ravezaar.4951:

yea cant wait for next BWE, wanna test the changes and see if I can work GS into my Build instead of D/Wh

I guess i’d take D/Wh + GS. One set for single target burst and another for pressure.

Imo, Infusing Terror should be a stun breaker. Just like every others professions stability skills.

Ravezaar.4951:

I get it Donee, Condi is so much easier in 1v1 situations for Necro and works vs most classes just better, its also a better counter due to the fact that so many of the othe classes roam on Condi Builds and u as Necro can then counter them better. Exception imo is stance-warriors and some Eles.

But Iam not saying that u not good, imo its your Condi Vidz I like the most look forward to them as I do to Holts Power Vidz and finally it seem we Power Necs can close the gap abit with Reaper ( I hope atleast)

Keep em comming

Yeah, condi builds are really good for small scale roaming. It also fits me because i always played classes that work with hex/debuffs and are sustain/tanky in every MMO.

Power reaper is exceptional, imo. So much better than condition, but i am working on it. I’ll find a way.

Pelopidas.2140:

Really good vid!
Please tell me there is a part 2 with power

Thanks, mate.
I only play condition in WvW, it just fits me. Only play power/hybrid in Spvp, mostly hybrid.
I promisse in next beta i’ll play power build and record.

Some footage of me playing reaper in the past beta weekend. I am trying something new in this video so please, give me feedback on my voice/speeching. Things like if you can understand what i am saying or if its too hard to understand. Will be much appreciated.
Depending on this, bigger and better things will be coming in a near future.

Hope you enjoy and thanks for watching!

https://youtu.be/6NRlbxM2Le4

Linnael.1069:

So are we going with #Geelieve, Young Geezy, or straight up R. Geesus now?

I think #Geelieve fits real nice.
“I #Geelieve that reaper/necro can take a place in top professions in gw2!”

Cecilia.5179:

Lynnie.7213:

Now about the changes.
OMGish … scepter’s changes are coming at some point! \o/

And on the paper the shout rise looks fantastic for minion builds, thing will only get tankier!

I’m so excited for scepter buffs! Nothing more fun than the satisfying sound of scepter auto.

Ikr?! That nasty sound!

Now about the changes.
OMGish … scepter’s changes are coming at some point! \o/

And on the paper the shout rise looks fantastic for minion builds, thing will only get tankier!

Thanks for these changes, Robert.
Its nice to have you looking for us, necromancers, and paying attention to the community feedback.
I know you may not have enough time to spend on forums reading and repplying, but be sure that when you do, its really appreciated. We love you being communicative and transparent with us.

Once again, nice job and keep it coming!

EremiteAngel.9765:

wow they still have traited double moa? -_-

sounds like US is the answer to this burning + moa attack…

i checked my stat log he was ticking 2k+ burning on me every tick and dropped me to 10% HP in the few seconds I was in MOA and i died instantly after I left moa -_-

RIP! xD

Dakunaito.9602:

Lynnie.7213:

This is what i would change/improve as solo/small scale roamer:

Greatsword:

1- Auto attacks need to be faster or hit harder. To keep the reaper aspect of scary movies, i’d go for hit harder.

2- Gravedigger looks alrighty for pressuring targets, but if you want optimal dps just go with other things.
What annoy me with gravedigger is the 1 second wait until you can use it again after target is below 50% health.

Reaper Shroud:

1- This auto attack is awesome! The damage is okay and its faster than Life Blast, what we really needed. Only thing i would add to that is some sorta of chill. Maybe like greatsword: apply chill on 3rd chain attack. I found it pretty hard to keep on meele against majority of classes, specially rangers and mesmers.

2- Death’s Charge is my second best choice of best skills in Shroud. Its like an improved dark path. Which increased by a lot necromancer’s mobility. I was able to escape a good amount of fights without even have to use Spectral walk jukes.
Only change i would make is the same as Greatsword #5: make it cast on your target, but if you don’t have any target cast where you are facing at. Just like Warrior’s Greatsword #5.

Sorry for my poor english and hope i didn’t let anything off.

Greatsword

1- autoattack needs to hit harder and faster and chill duration is low. sword Thief does 2s cripple and weak. autoattack full cycle(including animation after cast times) takes 3s, while hammer Warrior takes 1.7s, and does more dmg. both attack speed and dmg need boost

2- it’s not alright. 1.25s cast time for 1-hit skill is too much. it’s even slower than hammer. even multi-hit skills have less cast time. Mesmer does 4-hits in 1s. cast time shouldn’t be more than 0.5s. most of the animation is useless and it exist to cover the long cast time. they took the cast time that they were gonna add to Tempest’s Flash-Freeze shout and put it here

Reaper Shroud

1- dmg need a slight boost. even with 25 might+25 vuln it’s still low

2- it needs to add collision and increase distance. it’s the only charge skill(don’t confuse it with leaps and whirls) that doesn’t have collision and pass through targets, and it’s distance is bellow 1.000. 9/10 times i can’t hit target cause i’m very close. i only use it to escape. in other pvp videos i saw they also rarely manage to hit

I didn’t get to play much greatsword because its just not my thing, but i agree. It needs some considerable damage boost. I think we can’t speed it up because it will lose the hitting harder but slow feeling that Anet wants to give this spec. So yea, damage boost!

About RS#2 i could use some increase distance, would be awesome! 900 range i think would be perfect. Not too far or short. And yea, warrior’s gs#5 is a charge skill, just like Bull’s charge. They can cast it on target and charge straight to target location or use it without any target selected and charge foward they facing.

In order to keep the horror movie aspect and the “slow” feeling. I’d say increase chill duration and damage. And add some more chill in Reaper Shroud. If someone is slowed, with high cooldowns recharge and take some good and consistent damage they’ll think about and see is better to back out.

I miss some skills of my reaper.

^

EremiteAngel.9765:

i fought a wvw condi engineer twice using elixir x and i died in seconds.
he stacked a couple of burns, bleeds in seconds, and moa me before i could transfer

and even though i was dodging in moa i still died in seconds to the burn

and its not possible to see the moa animation and dodge in time

The engi’s necro domination has started! lol
I really don’t know how to help you out with this because i never found one in WvW, yet. But in Spvp they are an kitten

What i would change:

1- I’d increase scepter skill’s duration in 30~40%. Seems like things goes off just too fast. And lingering curses is not an optimal choice unless you are doing pve.

2- The Auto attacks are fine, slow but fine. 900 range seems acceptable since its a 1 handed weapon.

3- Grasping dead needs a big reward for hitting it, since its a ground target. Maybe increase the bleed stacks on it. Mesmer scepter #2 apply 5 torment stacks.

4- Feast of Corruption is the worst scepter skill! It really need to get reworked. Maybe increase the life force % and apply some sort of condition. Why we would want a power scaling skill damaging in a condtion weapon? Maybe put like that: if you use it on a target that has more than 4 condition apply torment ? We don’t have a source of torment other than DS#5.

This is what i would change/improve as solo/small scale roamer:

Greatsword:

1- Auto attacks need to be faster or hit harder. To keep the reaper aspect of scary movies, i’d go for hit harder.

2- Gravedigger looks alrighty for pressuring targets, but if you want optimal dps just go with other things.
What annoy me with gravedigger is the 1 second wait until you can use it again after target is below 50% health.

3- Death Spiral definitely need a bigger hitbox. I missed this skill like 90% of times which made greatsword lf regeneration poor and not a good weapon.

4- Nightfall i think is the best skill in greatsword, but the animation takes so long. You lose like 1 second or more after casting it.

5- Reaper’s Grasp has a nice concept. Only change i’d make is make this cast on your target and not where your character is facing. Okay, if you don’t have anything targeted so just cast where you are facing at.

Reaper Shroud:

1- This auto attack is awesome! The damage is okay and its faster than Life Blast, what we really needed. Only thing i would add to that is some sorta of chill. Maybe like greatsword: apply chill on 3rd chain attack. I found it pretty hard to keep on meele against majority of classes, specially rangers and mesmers.

2- Death’s Charge is my second best choice of best skills in Shroud. Its like an improved dark path. Which increased by a lot necromancer’s mobility. I was able to escape a good amount of fights without even have to use Spectral walk jukes.
Only change i would make is the same as Greatsword #5: make it cast on your target, but if you don’t have any target cast where you are facing at. Just like Warrior’s Greatsword #5.

3- Infusing Terror i found pretty useful. It’s a long stability uptime. Made necros good stompers, finally! But its terrible to apply fear. Buils like terrormancer you better just sticking to regular death shroud. Plus it doesn’t break stun, so FitG is still pretty useful.

4- Soul Spiral is the hell yes skill! Its my favorite of all times in Reaper Shroud. I was being able to stack up to 25~30 poison stacks on a target using that. It was like 4k damage per second.

5- Executioner’s Scythe has a great concept, you feel like a real reaper. BUT that cast time make it so predictable. People saw it coming every single time and dodged right away.

Shouts:

I find all the shouts bad, to be honest. You just have better options in other utility skills.
They may work in ZvZ, but since i don’t play it i can’t state.

I just want talk about a couple them which i have tested.

1- Your Soul is Mine is an okay heal if you know you are facing multiple targets. And has a lower cooldown than Consume Conditions.

2- Chilled to the kitteneally need to get some changes. Overall the skill is great but that 2 seconds cast time make it nearly to useless. It will only land if people are not paying attention on you or if they are completly clueless.
God kitten it! It’s an elite skill with 120 sec cooldown, we can’t have 2 seconds cast time on it and make it useless for another 120 seconds.
I would change it for instant cast stun and then 2 seconds later the chill gets appplied. Is not like you need a person chilled while they are still stunned and we make everyone happy(Anet dev’s and community).

3- Rise is seriously awful! By far the worst shout. Condition’s necro need some love compared to others classes and we get “Rise”. It summon a jagged horror for every person it hits up to 5. If you manage to hit 5 people with it you’ll get like 10 bleeds stacks? Just useless!
I don’t know what to change to make it better. Maybe increase the number of summoned minions or just give us different minions or a really really low cooldown(this one i still think its bad).

Traits:

1- Augury of Death seems fine, but as i said, it will only work in ZvZ … i guess.

2- Chilling Nova is awful! I don’t know who would take it after the nerf. Low chill uptime, low damage, high cooldown.

3- Relentless Pursuit this one i think its pretty sick! Saved my life a couple times while i was trying to disegange.

4- Soul Eater seems okayish if you are into greatsword, which is not my case.

5- Chilling force is good! Make you hit harder because of mights and generate life force which is always welcome.

6- Decimate Defenses is another good one. Nearly to permanent 50% critical chance since reaper applies so much vulnerability.

7- Blighter’s Boon is awesome! The sustain it provides is great.

8- Deathly chill is not good at all! It needs to get scaled from condition damage and power. So both builds can use it. Plus the chill damage is so low that isn’t worthy.

9- Reaper’s Onslaught was not working as intended in this beta but i can imagine it to be good enough. Gotta wait and see.

Sorry for my poor english and hope i didn’t let anything off.

I don’t know if i can help you out, but i have a condition build guide post-patch for WvW. I don’t know if its meant to new players, that is a thing you’ll have see for yourself.

But for leveling, stick to power builds, they are way more effective for that.

Guide link: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

I feel you, Dietzen.
I was having some issues against mesmers a while ago but every since i crafted this build: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer
and learn how to react and what to dodge it got so much easier.
I can seriously count in one hand the times i lost to a mesmer every since 06/23 patch.
Give it a try and please dodge that Mirror Blade.

I think its a strong build. One of the strongest in spvp atm, but i don’t call it meta. In fact, i don’t call any build meta. One build can work for me but doesn’t mean it will work for everyone else. Play what you like, what fit in your playstyle!

Zera.8907:

My vote goes to Donee. His Necro videos are impressive to watch, edited very well, and are full of amazing skill and game play. Other amazing necro players are Bhawb and Jayce as previously mentioned.

Thanks … i guess.
Reaper gameplay is coming … this week! \o/

Idk about top tier necros, but i can say the ones i enjoy watch.

Ascii and Choxie.

Great fights, mate. On that 1v3~4 i actually thought you’d succeed because you was doing so well.
Revenant has the most op downed state confirmed! I lost a lot of outnumbered fights beucase of it. Getting teleported and slowed for life.

I played condi reaper in WvW solo roaming. Its decent! Have its strong and weak points. I still prefer the regular necro. xD

Anyone found a good condi reaper build for roaming? Everything i tested went bad or super bad!

I wanted to try condi reaper in WvW. But so far every attempt i did was awful. Or it lacks condi burst or LF regen or Boon corruption. So far is just better stick with regular terrormancer for WvW solo roaming from my PoV.

If anyone have tested a good condi reaper would mind to share?

Sagat.3285:

Lynnie.7213:

Greatsword really some hard work, Anet.
Only place where it works is Pve.

Anything works in PvE.

Exactly my point!

Greatsword really some hard work, Anet.
Only place where it works is Pve.

Imo, skill 4 is the only thing good in there.
Auto atks are too slow and not hit hard enough.
Gravedigger – just dagger auto atk, please.
Skill 3 – range so short that you’ll miss it 99% of times.
Skill 4 – good against thief/warr and for stomping.
Skill 5 – no … just no!

I think it can work, just fine. But you’ll be squishy in sinister, ofc.
I play a similar build, take a look: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

And i have videos of me playing in that build, which may help you make a decision.

https://www.youtube.com/donee

Waffler.1257:

Lynnie.7213:

Waffler.1257:

Lynnie.7213:

Waffler.1257:

why do you plague stomp mesmers?

For the health increase. So i don’t get bursted by the other mesmer who was in stealth. And in T1 people appear from nowhere to kill you, i can’t afford let a mesmer get revived because i’ll get killed, for sure.

o my bad, i thought the mesmer at 4:36 was alone.

At 4:36 was alone. But like i said, in T1 people appear from nowhere to gank you. I couldn’t afford that.

o oki, so if mesmer times invis skill to avoid first stomp, do you sit in plague for remaining 16-17 seconds to damage mesmer till dead, or do you come out of plague to stomp again? i’m thinking about switching to necro main and trying to learn how to play.

Usually i would sit in plague until i know my heal is off cooldown.

Waffler.1257:

Lynnie.7213:

Waffler.1257:

why do you plague stomp mesmers?

For the health increase. So i don’t get bursted by the other mesmer who was in stealth. And in T1 people appear from nowhere to kill you, i can’t afford let a mesmer get revived because i’ll get killed, for sure.

o my bad, i thought the mesmer at 4:36 was alone.

At 4:36 was alone. But like i said, in T1 people appear from nowhere to gank you. I couldn’t afford that.

Waffler.1257:

why do you plague stomp mesmers?

For the health increase. So i don’t get bursted by the other mesmer who was in stealth. And in T1 people appear from nowhere to kill you, i can’t afford let a mesmer get revived because i’ll get killed, for sure.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Lynnie.7213:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Necromancer can apply Confusion without Perplexity runes you know. You should try it.

I manage to apply every condition in the game with the exception of “Slow” on my targets without using Perplexity runes. It doesn’t always work due to the difficult nature of the application but it feels a lot more rewarding than -Interrupt-> 1.3k Confusion ticks.

All these lazy Perplex-o-mancers make me cry ):

Yeah, i know i can apply confusion by corrupting retaliation. But tell me, why should i not use perplexity when others classes have such, let’s say “Better” to not say another thing, better mechanic than ours? When they can insta apply 15~20 confusion stacks?
I don’t need make my life harder while make my opponents happier. The build works pretty well without perplexity. I know this, because i already played it using another runes, like scavenger and krait. But yes, perplexity make it easier.
Anyways, sorry to make you sad. But each necro must find it own way to get “equal” to others classes mechanics.

Corrupting Retaliation, Spectral Wall + shooting staff AA through it, having a Bone Fiend shoot it’s attacks through it, Blasting Spectral Wall with Putrid Mark for Chaos Armor are all ways to apply Confusion without Perplex runes. All unreliable ways but all a lot more skillful ways.

If you spent less time using runes that apply Confusion for you you might learn more ways to apply it without them.

And I didn’t say you “shouldn’t” use Perplexity runes, if you want to, if it’s fun for you, go ahead.

Anyway, I apologize for my attitude because I’m being extremely opinionated. It just makes me mad that so many people say Necro is weak so everyone just assumes it’s true at this point and tries to justify being cheesy with being weak.

Everyone has an opinion and i get it. And yes, i don’t agree when people say “necros are weak”, we just have inferior mechanics compared to others classes, but no weak.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Necromancer can apply Confusion without Perplexity runes you know. You should try it.

I manage to apply every condition in the game with the exception of “Slow” on my targets without using Perplexity runes. It doesn’t always work due to the difficult nature of the application but it feels a lot more rewarding than -Interrupt-> 1.3k Confusion ticks.

All these lazy Perplex-o-mancers make me cry ):

Yeah, i know i can apply confusion by corrupting retaliation. But tell me, why should i not use perplexity when others classes have such, let’s say “Better” to not say another thing, better mechanic than ours? When they can insta apply 15~20 confusion stacks?
I don’t need make my life harder while make my opponents happier. The build works pretty well without perplexity. I know this, because i already played it using another runes, like scavenger and krait. But yes, perplexity make it easier.
Anyways, sorry to make you sad. But each necro must find it own way to get “equal” to others classes mechanics.

FrownyClown.8402:

I’m not saying you are a bad necro, but you got carried by perplexity.

Everyone has their opinion, ofc. But i think you should redirect this to mesmers who insta apply 15 confusion stacks.
Here are some non-perplexity videos, check out if you want:

Holl.3109:

FrownyClown.8402:

I’m not saying you are a bad necro, but you got carried by perplexity.

He didn’t win those fights because he had perplexity runes, he won because he knows what he is doing. Perplexity sure helps, but you can’t assume that that was the only thing that made him win.

As to Donee; great stuff as usual!

Thanks, Hollts. Means a lot!

inharmonic.1975:

can’t really go wrong with donee’s signet roaming build. it does great against classes that give others a lot of trouble. however, good rangers can be annoying.

The build is pretty good, i must agree. I don’t usually have trouble vs any kind of ranger. Just one dude that i can’t beat. Our fights take minutes, but he always win at end, only won once i guess. But other than that, rangers are ezpz. xD

One more roaming montage for you guys. Hope you enjoy and thanks for watching.

Aw yes, i liked!
I have crush for vampires and its bad. lol

EremiteAngel.9765:

i disagree that a pure condi roamer is the best…
countered hard by high condi cleansing builds and condi immune builds
especially diamond skin eles make you feel powerless
I have also met rangers with good condi cleansing abilities

I would say a hybrid build works best =p

You have a point, mate. But i just like too much my full condi.
Yea, i can’t kill good diamond skin eles, unless they suck at health management. But i just got run away, they can’t catch me, too fast! haha

Silverkey.2078:

I think one of the strength of condi necro in roaming is that many (most?) other roamers are also condi. Take all the condi you can, send them back and you have a dead enemy. And if you don’t meet a roamer but someone joining its zerg, he’ll probably be direct damage but unequipped for a 1v1.

Agreed!

Condi necros are hell of a fun in WvW. Okayish in Spvp. Horrible in Pve.

Condi necro is the way to go in solo roam, at least its working pretty kitten well for me.
As someone in previous post mentioned, test out my build:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

And please rate the build after you have your own impressions, either good or bad. This will help the build go meta.
Here you have some gameplays of this build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Uyjnisldg

Sandrox.9524:

We need commentators who are active playing necro in wvw.

I play Necro in wvw and I even stream it once in a while,tho my stream is quite not popular,and I dont do commentaries.I think we lack those.

Yeah, i did some research and we are really in need of this. That is the reason i am thinking about give it a shot.

Hey, fellow necromancers.
I have been putting some thought on this for quite a good time already. And some people are strongly suggesting me to do it.
What you guys think about Spvp / WvW commentary necro videos? I know we don’t have many streamers/commentary creators as the others proffesions.
You guys think it would be cool or just leave it alone?
Take in consideration i am not american and my native language is not english, so you guys would be hearing some really strong/poorly speech english.

Leave some feedback please. Thanks for your time.

Playing necromancer on Skyrim. Never felt better! They can’t nerf me there! xD

Man, great job there. If a player can do this, why can’t Anet devs? Its a pretty thematic spec, enjoyed. 10/10

And that elixir of deceptive bloodlust, just awesome!

Great video, Nemesis.