Guild Wars 2

Necros have a lot of issues? Yes!
Necro is fun to play? Yes!
Necro requires more time and effort to be played? Yes!

You’ll eventually lose to high mobility classes at some point? Yes!

I think necros could get some defensive skills, like really defensives. Maybe some instand teleport 1200 range or some invulnerability skill at cost of something … idk SOMETHING!

I was taking a look at Meta Battle and i saw Necromancers have no build there for roaming and after patch our roaming abilities have increased quite a bit, at least by my experience.

If you feel like going on this link, read, make your points and rate, would be great. So we can put Necromancers on a high stand for roaming.

Thanks for your time.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

I have this build on meta battle, along with a video guide/showcase. You could make some points on build, add things. Please rate if you feel like this is a good thing so we can put necromancers on WvW Meta roaming.

Build: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKCJYMAKAJI

Dietzen.6127:

Lynnie.7213:

Dietzen.6127:

Someone asked for roaming builds, and I mentioned earlier that I beat almost anyone I meet. So here it is http://tinyurl.com/nnk8bdv

This is going to sound exceptionally kitteny, but I don’t mean to be, but here it is. If you’ve got suggestions for the build, IDC at all. If you don’t think it’ll work, IDC at all. It works for me and I beat people. Use it or don’t, alter it to your hearts content and wishes and best of luck

This is a strange build for sure, but might work.
I wish we could stomp people in norn transformation skills, i’d reroll in no time!

Might It DOES work, else I wouldn’t post it ^^

Yeah, but you gotta admit is a lil outside the box! hehe
Good job, mate.

I am doing pretty well with staff so far in terms of life force regeneration. I can maintain a fight against 3 people for really long time. But some traits to boost it would be cool too.

For people who asks for roaming builds like our friend above was saying, i have my own to share with video/guide and showcase.

Check that out if interested:

Dietzen.6127:

Someone asked for roaming builds, and I mentioned earlier that I beat almost anyone I meet. So here it is http://tinyurl.com/nnk8bdv

This is going to sound exceptionally kitteny, but I don’t mean to be, but here it is. If you’ve got suggestions for the build, IDC at all. If you don’t think it’ll work, IDC at all. It works for me and I beat people. Use it or don’t, alter it to your hearts content and wishes and best of luck

This is a strange build for sure, but might work.
I wish we could stomp people in norn transformation skills, i’d reroll in no time!

I did my best there, hope everyone enjoy. If you have any question, don’t be afraid to ask.
I’d like to thanks everyone in this community for the help.

VunDola.7596:

Perplexity runes <3

Perplexity became amazing after patch.

Zera.8907:

You make it look so freaking easy…….Awesome video!

Is not ez. xD
Thanks.

Nevhie.6079:

Nice Mind Games with Plague Signet. Good stuff!!

Thanks, nev.

Great changes to us but the chilling stuff. Still happy with it.

Eliteseraph.4970:

I am not a necro, nor have I ever played one. But I find the discussion interesting. One thing I noticed is that many necros are claiming they’re able to handle almost anything that comes at them while roaming. However, I’m seeing a distinct lack of video proof. It doesn’t need to be your own video, but having some solid evidence to back up your claims would be nice, even if only for instructional purposes.

And if for some reason you can’t provide video evidence, at least lay out your general build and strategy for your playstyle while roaming.

Don’t just say you can do something which is unlikely, show us how you’re doing it and explain how you’re doing it. Fight the QQ by educating other necros.

That is an interesting comment. Like many others necros said, i don’t have major problems against those classes. I have a couple videos showing my gameplay but i suck at “teaching”. I am even making a build video but i don’t know if it will be good or not, like i said, i suck at “teaching”.

Here have some “proofs”: http://www.youtube.com/donee

ventusthunder.5067:

Scepter ele at north camp reporting in o/

Good stuff Nev.

Your damage is just unbelievable! lol

Serr.1853:

Lynnie.7213:

Serr.1853:

LYNNIE, I was chasing you all over the map that night…Glad to see you downed at that north camp :-P
Good fights. Didn’t realize Nehvie was in that fight.

If you are who i think you are, one of those mesmers, i realized it was personal after our previous fights.

Is this you? https://youtu.be/66Uyjnisldg?t=7m10s

Yeah that was me, no cleanse and would get chewed up by bleeding.

We had some fun fights that day.

Zefrost.3425:

Lynnie.7213:

This is how you win against classes that have better condi application than you:
https://youtu.be/66Uyjnisldg?t=5m26s

And this lol

Those timings! xD

I think necros have hardcounters classes, but just as much others classes has it as well.
Lb rangers are so easy, yes there are good ones around but still easy from my pov.

Anyways, necro needs LUV! <3

This is how you win against classes that have better condi application than you:
https://youtu.be/66Uyjnisldg?t=5m26s

EremiteAngel.9765:

wow well done. i know quite a few of those you fought and they are pretty good but you bested them!

Thanks, mate.

oZii.2864:

Nice video I’m running almost exactly the same thing 2 signets one is always locust and then the last util I swap out. I’m also using warhorn mostly also, gonna go back to dagger tonight to see if I miss warhorn. Most condi necros had 3 condition removals/transfer pre-patch with the signet of suffering trait and plague you still have 3 even if you run warhorn, which wasn’t the case before.

Edit: Looking at your video it looks like curses/death magic/soul reaping. Hmm, I’ll try death magic again, but I kind of feel like spite is the better choice. I’ll have to look at it again and try it out.

I’ll be making a build video soon. xD

Serr.1853:

LYNNIE, I was chasing you all over the map that night…Glad to see you downed at that north camp :-P
Good fights. Didn’t realize Nehvie was in that fight.

If you are who i think you are, one of those mesmers, i realized it was personal after our previous fights.

Is this you? https://youtu.be/66Uyjnisldg?t=7m10s

Hi everyone. It’s been a couple weeks i last posted a video. So this is the first video i am making after the june 23th patch, this was some good and bad changes we got.
Constructive criticism is always welcome in order to make me improve in every aspect. Drop a like if you enjoy and hit that subscribe button to get notified when i upload new stuffs.

Hope you guys enjoy and thanks for watching.

Nice video! 10/10 because i am on it!

Ravezaar.4951:

I agree with Donee and I will add the Bunker Condi Eles are also painful when they are played Correctly. Solo roaming on any class is one the best way to learn your class, traits, skills and to slowly increase your skill both in howto survive and howto beat other classes.

I spend 90%+ of my ingame time doing this and I still love it.

Aw yea, i forgot diamond skin eles! When i see that immune i just ran away, no chance for me there.

Best tip i’d tell you is: try to count their stealth if you know the them and pop DS before they hit it out of stealth with that crazy shatter/condi burst. And LoS like a boss!

If it was an adept trait, i’d pick. I don’t like much the spite’s adept traits but GM…not gonna happen.

Because the class theme is awesome! Always played necro/summoner classes in all MMOs.

If you like the necro theme, go for it. You’ll love.
If you just want the best/optimal thing, go another class.

Honestly, the problem is your build, not the LB ranger, imho.
Signet of Spite / Foot in the grave are just an amazing LB ranger killer!

EremiteAngel.9765:

I can think of a few:
Longbow ranger = we got no build that gives us an even fight against them
Rifle/GS warrior = if he knows how to kite, gosh they are almost as much a nightmare as LB ranger
Mesmer = er…the amount of blinks and invis…
Longrange engineers = er…I can’t catch at all while he runs and throws stuff at me and when I run away he can catch me and stay in range and throw stuff at me…

Hey mate.
About the classes above:
Longbow ranger: haven’t lost to it ever since patch hits.
Rifle warrior: haven’t meet one yet, but before patch they wasn’t hard at all.
Mesmer: Some are a pain, others aren’t. I say its 50/50.
Engineer: Only lost 1 fight to it after patch.

The build i most struggle against is Berserker stance + Rampage, the auto win button!

Today the game has been awful. Crazy lag, high latency and 4 seconds skill delay.
I know for fact that is not my ISP, so i ran a trace route and when it hits Ncsoft servers things go crazy, over 500ms and some tests even get “Request timed out”.

Please fix your connections/server.

Two stacks per hit with same duration would be fine. Would make it useful but not broken like guardians. /Balanced

Great video and music(is my taste as well).

That would be great!

Yeah, after i saw yours answers i started to watching footages i recorded and weakening shroud is a lot better.

Thanks everyone for your time.

Both are super good, can’t decide between them. I keep swapping. Your thoughts on this for solo/duo roaming?

Using corrupt skills as necromancer on stability boon and its not turning into fear. It simply vanish and period. Its killing an entire build(terrormancer).

Need be fixed asap!

Nope, don’t nerf it. Necros only defensive is DS. Others classes can go invulnerable, teleport away, stealth. We can just sit and eat your damage.

Urukami.4796:

oh and be very!!!! careful with plague signet as I once took a burning tick that was applied to someone (cough cough…Zodin….) and it killed me in 3-4 seconds cause it did a total of around 17.3-18.2K of my health in one go. (Yeah it was a hybrid condi guardian that applied that burn..)

Yeah guardians burn are op, now.
I just saw one of your builds and its what i am using, but i use perplexity and warhorn instead. With plague signet in place of spectral wall.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0C4gJkJ0;9;487A;0247156148;4a-1GU-V8NX8aNX8aq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5n

I feel like 3200 toughness with corrupter’s fervor means nothing, i still get 2 shotted. And other condi classes are just too strong compared to us, like mesmers applying nearly to 20 confusion/torment stacks.

hey mate, cool post. How is your builds working so far? Mine is giving a lil bit headache. The meat is too strong.

Quite bad. Seems like the meta now is condi/stealth classes. PU mesmers and condi teefs are just king now. Corrupter fervor is great but idk, necro is feeling weaker now than before patch compared to other classes.

Captain Unusual.9163:

It wouldn’t appear on your character sheet, since it’s a bonus against specific targets based on how many conditions they have.

Makes sense, let’s hope its working.

Guys, i have noticed that Target the weak is not increasing my crit chance after i stack conditions on my target. Anyone have any data about it ? Is it not showing the crit chance increase or simply not working? Thanks.

WvW Signetmancer. 3100 condition damage. I swap signet of locust for spectral walk sometimes.

http://intothemists.com/guides/5444-wvw_all_mighty_signetmancer

3100 condi dmg, that is it!

I’d take MoC if the skills would inflict more condition stacks on me. Yeah, i am not crazy. If i got inflicted for something around 5~8 torment stacks over 2 stacks i’d send them to foe right away. 8 torment stacks burst is STRONG!

Taiyetos.3260:

After the yesterdays stream I think near everyone is going to be running a variation of this, be it condi or power.

I get that, but i wanna see how might stacks will sustain without the signet cast>cancel bug.

Mauvs.1605:

Dhogoth.1856:

My first build will be this one: http://intothemists.com/guides/5395-sinister_condition_mancer

Maybe i choose change “rending shroud” over “chill of death”. I was using Rune of the Noble, but now CC get more 33% cd. I’ll try krait probabily, now cond duration its realy good.

For pve krait seems a better choice, so maybe we can break the 25 bleed stacks mark. Your party will proving all the might you’ll need anyway. I think rending shroud is superior than chill of death because constant vulnerability while you in shroud applying burning over a couple seconds chill, boon removal is meh for pve and around 1kish dmg.

Hey guys, i decided to early show the build i’ll be probably running in WvW solo/group roaming.
It gives you a super high condition damage via might stacking. If my math is correct, something around 2800 condition damage. May be a bit overkill on status but still gotta be tested, right?

If everything works like i think it will after patch release, i’ll be releasing a build video.

Check that out and feedback please, i may have let something pass.

Thanks for your time.

http://intothemists.com/guides/5444-wvw_all_mighty_signetmancer

Dhogoth.1856:

My first build will be this one: http://intothemists.com/guides/5395-sinister_condition_mancer

Seems pretty solid, i’d only change terror for MoC so you can transfer back some torment stacks and reduce cd on 3 of your skills and Soul Reaping line kinda meeh for that but we don’t have another choice.