Guild Wars 2

I actually do like the new levelling, because is finally challenging.
And if anybody dont like the new sistem, try pvp, i actually got 35+ skill points and 25+ tomes of knowledge since the patch.

A lot of people is whispering me asking suggestions, wow that’s an honour!!! ^^

Even if after the patch i’m using more my first love, my elementalist, and trying to get my champion magus title (109 wins now…) i still managed to mess around in wvw with my mesmer this week end doing some solo roaming, and i tried the build in one incredibly long big fight (30/40 vs 20/30) defending the Bay in the lord room at our BL.

Well i gotta admit this build really look invincible, i owned thief + engie really easily even if i was attacked from behind, and the cool fact is that i’m not even fully geared for my build (i have 5 golds, poor asura :| ) and i’m using some kittenty runes, kittenty food and have only 1 sigil on the staff…

Here is the build that i’m goin to use once i have enough money:
The Invincible Mesmer

Some tips
- i find this build really tanky, the mantra heal is awesome, so i could switch some of my equipment for Rampager stats (amulet and some armor pieces probably) to pump the dmg a little
- probably the scepter is better, but i love the sword skills, and sometime i need a good immobilize or invulnerability
- a lot of people think that you cant go out in the wild without traveller runes, but as for me, i never had the money to buy that set, so i manged to learn how to escape and chase people without a speed buff, it’s a matter of taste what rune set to choose.

Wahoo! Hello frands!
Every tip you wrote is good and everybody should do this things!

oh my god yes!

I’m using the build i have in the link below, i suggest you guys to try it, awesome!

Mystogan.4157:

i have 3 clones 90% of the time. if they try to kill them then they die from confusion and bleeds. either way i win. i said both are viable. but yea thats saying ones “best” right?

Hi Mystogan!
The reason why i choose Mantra here is that Anet changed the position of the 2 mantra grandmaster traits between Domination and Dueling, making the heal choice almost a must for the kind of build i use, 3 instant heals eith 6 condtion removed is borderline OP in almost every situation, and this with only 8 seconds to recast the mantra.
As for keeping 3 clones up, that’s easy in 1v1 situations, but in group fights is really hard, and most of all the signet suck if you have mender’s purity picked as trait

BlackDevil.9268:

20-20-30 or 10-20-30-10 pu builds win from this build easily. I don’t see why exactly you think this ‘’might be the strongest build ever’‘.
You, obviously, lack damage. This forces you to stay in fight longer and have more condition removals. That means the mantra healing is almost a must. This healing is lower than ether feast so your healing overall will be lower too. I don’t really see how it offers ‘’better heals’‘. Please explain.
You would completely rely on bleedings as either rabid or your traits add 0 power. Then something I don’t get is why not use iduelist to stack bleedings.
With Perplexity you wouldn’t survive in WvW probably, but I guess you also mentioned so lets just leave that away.
You can´t chase kitten with this.

Sorry to be so harsh, but this wouldn´t even come close to being equal to 10/20-20-30-(10)

Well this build outheal a classic PU build thanks to harmonious mantras (you gotta try that heal traited for 3 shots and lower cd + mender’s purity, awesome!)
Having 3 dazes always ready help chasing, a warrior will not use 3+5 of his GS if he’s dazed, and in the meantime you can use a classic sword 3-3-2-F1 combo on him blinking near the enemy, it will not do a lot of damage but if he’s running away that means he is at low life.
I cant understand why you say i lack damage, i do the same as a clasic PU, but with perplexity i stack a ton of confusion= better damage than PU.
PS: i traied rampager amulet in pvp, dont like it.
Answered your questions?

Guys i invite you to take a try of the build i posted HERE
Mesmer got the best buff since lauch imo (a part for dmg nerf but that’s for all classes)

Hi guys,
I’m Mijo, solo roamer and tpvp addicted from Ring Of Fire Server EU ^^
I saw a lot of guys complaining about the changes to the mesmer class, so i decided to share the build i’m using after the 15.
As a player that used mesmer since Q1 2013 and tried every major and meta build that came out in this year, i think that this one could be our strongest build ever!
I think it could replace the famous Blackwater build, because it offer better heals, better condi removal, more interrupts (awesome with perplexity), more chasing ability, confusion on clone death.
I actually tried 2 versions of the build, the first is a condi PU build (defensive) and the other is an interrupt build (aggressive).

THE INVINCIBLE MESMER

WEAPONS FOR DEFENSIVE VERSION
1) Staff
2) Scepter/torch (or sword/torch)
For the interrupt version you can choose whatever you like the most, i tried scepter/torch – sword/pistol

UTILITIES
Heal: Mantra of Recovery
Utilities: Blink (not a must have, but i love it), Decoy, Mantra of Distraction
Elite: Mass Invisibility

TRAITS
0-6-6-2-0
Dueling:
Adept: you choose, we have 4 nice possibilities, sword cd-blink range-mantra cd-retaliation on block
Master: Deceptive Evasion
Grandmaster: Harmonious Mantras
Chaos:
Adept: Debilitating Dissipation
Master: Chaotic Dampening (bountifull interruption in aggressive version)
Grandmaster: PU (or CI for hipsters)
Inspiration:
Adept: Mender’s Purity

EQUIPMENT
Armor: Rabid
Trinkets: Rabid
Runes: Perplexity (or traveller if you prefer mobility), in PvP i use nightmare thx to the bug/exploit ^^
Sigils: energy on both sets is a must have, the other 2 you choose (i like generosity a LOT)

FOOD
Well this depend on how much you want to spend, i’m poor so i use Koi cakes and Quality tuning crystal -.-

WHY THIS BUILD?
Almost every mesmer in this community have tried a 20-20-30-0-0 PU build , and know how strong that is, but also know the 2 weak points, condition removal and chasing ability, this new version offer this 2 things and more!
PS: well, chasing will never be our strong point but whatever…

PROS
-Mantras synergize in an awesome way with PU, every stealth skill we have give us the time to recast 1 of our mantras.
-better condition damage than classic PU builds thx to Dueling last minor trait (confusion on clone death) and more interrupt that proc Perplexity 6th bonus.
-all other good things of PU builds

CONS
-In the end this is a PU build, do not expect to chase thieves and GS warriors or be able to kill cleric guardians ^^

If you guys have any kind of questions (or even suggestions) just write here and i’ll respond.
The End! If anyone is willing to try the build and post a video of it it would be awesome, my computer is not good enough for it

I love it too!!!
The pvp community is kitten poison omg, they’ll never be happy with anything, we have a ton of new thing, and most of all, i’ll be able to get arah tokens without doing that dungeon! yey!

HI guys, so after 1,5 years of GW2 i started to think about working toward a legendary weapon, i did almost only tpvp in the beginning of the game so i never got rich even if i surpassed the 1000 hours by a lot…
Considering that legendaries will be mostly a skin than a weapon with good statistics after 15 April, and usable in pvp too, i have to choose the kind of weapon i’ll use the most.
I use 3 classes:
-Mesmer: my favorite class, i use my mesmer for solo roaming, pvp, and a little zerg www, but i prefer elementalist by a lot when it comes to big groups in wvw. I don’t use mesmer in PvE, i simply don’t like it.
Builds i use: Pu with staff-sw/t . Zerker shatter with GS/sw-p . Phantasm with sw/p-sc/sw

-Elementalist: my first class, i still love my elementalist even if Anet is doin his best to make me hate him. I use him for group wvw with my guild and for fractals.
Builds i use: basically only bunker staff, could go back to DD after the feature patch.

-Warrior: this class is nice, but after getting good with ele and mesmer it is simply too simple to use, i like f1-f4 skills and difficult rotations, and warrior does not allow me to do that, i actually use warrior only for dungeons fast runs and as a bunker in pvp if my team need it.
Build: GS pve zerker, hambow even if i hate it, sw-sw/bow condition.

This are the classes i use, so right now i have to choose what legendary i want, and start working for it, right now i like 2 options:

The Bifrost staff: this could be the best option, i never unequip staff on my ele and in wvw i can’t go without it with my mesmer too. Too bad i’m not in love with the skin itself, and i actually have this staff and i think is the best skin for a staff on my mesmer.
Dunno if i’ll use it in pvp, too defensive on the mesmer for fast fights.

Bolt sword: even if this is the most expensive legendary of all, and the skin is not exactly what i imagine a mesmer sword should look like, i still love this weapon, right now this is my favorite option, but i’m afraid i could find myself not using it.
In PvE with my war i usually go with a GS, i could use a sword as back up set, but is a condition weapon on warriors. In wvw i’d probably use a 1h sword on warrior to pump the mobility, but i actually never use him in wvw.
On mesmer i never used a build without a 1h sword, but i was theorycraftin builds after the feature patch and i think scepter could be more useful in condition shatter builds…

What do you guys suggest me? Goin for the skin i’ll probably use the most or for the one i like the most?
Thx a lot ^^

Hi guys, i have this question:

If 2 of my characters have the same dye i’ll get a free unidentified dye after the feature patch, but what happen if i have the same dye on 3+ characters? Do i get a free unidentified dye for every character or 1 per color?
If nobody have the answer, a Dev response would be awesome, thanks!

I Easyface “Wing” i personally think that you are the top mesmer ever in gw2, i watched videos of Osicat, Sup Cutie and Lord Helseth, but i still think you’re so skilled that you hitted the max level of skill, just awesome!
One important question:
_ Why you use both F1 and F2 when you shatter? It seems to me that you cant exploit that shatter making the same clones doin both dmg and confusion if you press F1 and F2 in the same time, do you do it only for Illusionaru Persona?

Wing is my favorite, only guy i saw that could do very legit fights outnumbered against good people.
I too won a 1v4 one time, but 2 of the 4 were upleveled and pretty noobish, way different then fighting 4 skilled players.

Shockwave.1230:

I took up mesmer in PvP this weekend. This is the build I’m playing. It’s a berserker shatter build.
Always put 2 sigil of energy on ur weapons if you play shatter with Deceptive Evasion, i personally run a similar build to yours, this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vgAQNAR8clknpTtlpxRNcrNig6B2BefHJFtGrVSBvdhA-TsAg0CnIQShkDJDSSksIN+YVw+DA
Remember that this is not a dueling build, so if you go against classes builded for 1v1 you’ll lose if the player is good.

1) Warrior
wait for them to use their stances, then spike, Staff is by far the best weapon against hambow war, with your skill #2 you’ll avoid every F1 they do
pro tip: moa them

2) Ranger
Dunno, i never used a ranger, i personally try to outdamage them and make a battle of “who die faster”
pro tip: moa them

3) Thief
A good theif will never lose to a good mesmer, the thing i can say to you is that most of the thieves hate to lose, so if you manage to bring em to 30% life, they usually run away feeling like a pro because “you cant kill them!”
pro tip: moa them

4) Guardians
guardians have problems catching you, and if you have the time for a full fight you’ll win if you dont go melee, but usually they can hel your initial burst and call their friends owning you
pro tip: moa them

5) Engineer
engie can outcleans every condition, but they do not mitigate damage or CCs very good, try to put a lot of pressure
pro tip: moa them

As far as necro’s and elementalists, I have yet to fight a build I haven’t been able to figure how to counter them. I don’t feel outmatched vs those two professions.

yeah i thought about it too.
I think i’ll try the build in spvp and then see how it works, but i think it could work out even without DE.
Usually zerker shatter builds are super fast,and you need to constantly create clones to shatter.
This build could be slower, PU and extra vitality give you good defense, so you don’t really need to spam out clones to shatter, you have a lot of condi pressure without shattering, and you can pop mirror images+f2 when in need of more pressure.
I will tell you guys how it is.

Hi guys,
i friend of mine decided to join me in wvw roaming, so we’re creating a duo.
i don’t really know the necro class, and my friend did almost only pve till now, so we need a help to find out which build he could use.
i run a hybrid Pu build with my mesmer: THE BUILD
I’m a pretty good solo roamer, and i can escape from any kind of situation most of the time, but my friend is never able to engage/disengage during fights so this is another problem.
He’s actually running a pretty bad MM build with carrion armor+jewel.
I think he could use Dire things, considering he is always the target when fights start, but dunno.
Please guys give suggestions!

hi guys,
i thought this build could become really dangerous after the feature patch:
THE BUILD
I personally never tried a shatter build without DE, so i will try this out before saying that this build will be OP, but with scepter+staff+mirror images i think you can constantly maintain a good amount of clones up.
I personally love the carrion jewel, having a 50-50 source of damage is better than full condi or full dmg for this build.
The WvW version could have blink traited for 1200 range instead of the mind wrack +20% damage.
What do you guys think about?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANET!!!
Every time i read one of the news about the feature patch i’m like “hell yeah! i’m not gonna pay every month for that kitten TESO!” XD

Hi,
I’m a solo roamer in Ring Of Fire, i usually log in only my mesmer.
My guild mates asked me to join them in guild wvw, so in the last 10 days i used my mesmer with them.
I tried the ele for a night (ele was my first class, i won 100+ tournies with him and had world completion ecc. ecc.) and actually felt really fun to play with staff.
I have to choose between mesmer and ele for the wvw with my guild while i’ll stay with mesmer for solo roaming. (i have a warrior too but i prefer casters instead of melee in zergs).
so i would like to understand what could be a good build in gvg.
I have soldier armor with clerics amulets, and i tried this 2 builds:
1) build 1
2) build 2

I would like to receive suggestions about:
-traits
-sigil on the staff (bloodlust or on swap?)
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

something like this?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vgAQNAR8clknpMttpxGNMrNSY6Bx9twJ9w0pGAlKwbA-zEyAYLBZKCEJKwJvioxWBLiGraBTVSEV7NKiWNA-w

Hi guys,
i’m Mijo, mesmer solo roamer from Ring Of Fire.
In the last 10 days my guild asked me to join them during the evenings for the guild wvw.
I tried some different traits, but i think you guys could help me creating a decent build.
I actually have only 1 set of armor/weapon/trinkets, and is full carrion, of course is not the best for wvw, i’ll probably create a soldier one if i’ll stay with my mesmer in wvw.
I’m using this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vgQQNAsdWlknpUtFrxVNUrNSYSRwR+pHMH6LHlCrXdA-w
I’m the only mesmer in the group, so i gotta stay with the classic veil+nullfield.
The other option i have is to log out my mesmer during guild wvw, and logging in my bunker ele or warrior.
Gimme suggestions! ^^

Justin ODell.9517:

As an altoholic, I feel your pain. I’ll need to take a look at the data tomorrow, find out just how common re-rolling is for PvPers.

I like the idea of unlockable skills, but please, make it account bound!
You have to consider this:
A LOT of good players actually have 2 characters of the same class for pvp, why?
You go to the solo/team arena, you see that your build is not right for the matchup, so you quicly swap to another character (same class, different build) so that you can be more usefull for your team.
This are the kind of things that the community DO NOT want to be deleted, please talk about it with the devs before make the patch live.

Lockdown builds, this is gonna be awesome.

How many noobs pretending that their low skills are not the problem lol.
Mesmer are actually pretty good, i think only elementalists and rangers can complain right now

Alissah.9281:

I wish they made it like they did achievements.

There we got a new box everyday for achievements we already had, untill we got them all. They could do the same for ranks, and pvp-only players would suddenly feel rewarded for all those years they put into it.

Sure, it would take me 40 days of waiting, but it’s bette than just having glory removed on a patch.

THIS 100%, i am so upset about this stupid change

Ross Biddle.2367:

Ummmm, I think what your friend is trying to describe has to do with the axis of the pulls. So depending where the target is, where the curtain is placed can dictate precisely what line the target is pulled in. Depending on the scenario that might result in what your friend described as “the higher the pull”. You may have noticed that in towers and keeps, the lip of the wall sometimes stops the target from falling down, but on other occasions the target can be pulled right over it. In fact this seems to happen more often than not when multiple pulls are used by a number of mesmers. The reason being that the “velocity” if you will seems to bypass the clipping aspect of the wall. Thus, if placed right, the curtain can pull in a more direct line by being down the wall some, to increase velocity, thus resulting in the pull overcoming the clipping element of the lip on top of the walls.

At least I think that’s what happens.

the guy pulled will follow a line from:
1. his inital position
2. the center of the line: —-X-—
3. remaining range, that should be something like 450

This is what i know, i would like to understand if there’s any way to make the pull more consistent, how do you use Ross Biddle?

Hi guys,
on YT i saw this awesome video
I usually use focus only when i roam with my guild, and most of the times i try to pull guys outside keeps, but find it really hard.
A friend of mine told me that the more ranged you are from the enemy, the higher the pull is, and that the best spot to put the pull is at half the height of the walls, but to me i dont really see the differnce.
Can you guys give some suggestions?
Is it better to put the tempral curatin near the enemy or near the cliff?

It’s really awesome to see all the big names coming back!!

i would definetly join a party with you guys, too bad i probably suck compared to you…

This guy Sida is from my guild, he is in my opinion the best italian pvp player in gw2, recommended!!

Here i am!
I wanna thx all the guys that gave me positive feedbacks and suggestions in this thread, i actually changed a little my build, but the differnce is awesome in mobility.
-Blink instead of Null Field
-Manipulation skills range increased instead of sword cd reduced
I’ll put traveller runes too whenever i’ll get 60-70 golds, but not now.

Yesterday i engaged a warrior that was attacking a veteran, in the exact moment when i down him, an enemy guardian come, and after some seconds a little zerg of 12/13 guys attack me, it was awesome that i was actally able to escape from near the garrison to near my respawn camp (south west) while the whole zerg was chasing me, and then a bigger zerg of guys from my server owned them. (i escaped for almost ALL the border without getting killed).

Name: Eugenio Del Male
Server: Ring of Fire
Playstyle: tPvP, solo roaming WvW and small group roaming WvW
Role: Scholar
Playtime: week ends and-tuesday-thursday

Hi guys,
I’m a 25 years old player from Italy, i’m looking for a friendly group or pvp oriented guild to join.
Rank: 34
Class: war-mesmer-engie, i do what the team need, i can even learn i new class if the team need it.
Time: not much, mainly week ends and tuesday, other days i work or RL, but when i can i’m always in for tpvp matches
Super sexy voice on Teamspeak (jk :P)
Friendly, i never rage or something.
I speak english and of course italian.
let me know something!

I want to join!
My guild is ok but they do only PVE and WvW

The day i saw this video, i relogged in my mesmer after 5 months and took him from lvl55 to lvl80 in one day just to start solo roaming.
Best gw2 video ever!

HI guys,
I’m actually running a “cheese” PU build in solo roaming WvW, and i find it very funny in 1vX fights.
In tpvp i usually go with the classic 20 20 0 0 30 berserk shatter build, and if i see that my team need a more bunker element, i log in my “UberCheesePewDiePieMegaEvolution” hambow bunker warrior.
I wanted to try something different, so i started using this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vgAQNAR8clknpRtlqxGNMrNiY6Rw5bCHJFmWqVSBvdhA-TsAg0CnICSFkLITQygsBN+YVw+DA
It’s not perfect probably, so i’m asking for suggestions.
1) Is the build ok? ( i tried an harder version with 30 10 30 0 0with mesmer runes but i was dieing too fast)
2) How do u control interrupts? CC the opponent is easy, interrupting the important skills no.
3) Sword OH or pistol OH or Focus?
4) any kind of suggestions.
5) How do you move during tpvp matches? Roam trying to steal bases alone or stick with the main group (usually mid)?

Thank You!

Jambas.6204:

Mijo.3274:

The problem here imo is that you can build yourself for movement all you want but you’ll still terrible compared to most of the classes, not to mention that traveller runes costs 10g each.

There is a trick that you can do with Tonic + Centaur runes to get swiftness.

You can see it in use here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k2iPuP8QrY

According to his description should be cheaper then Travel runes.

I did not really understand the trick sorry…
There’s one exact object that you intend when you say Tonic?

phaeris.7604:

You’re playing a cheesy condition PU spec setup on possibly one of the best 1v1 classes out there?

You’re lucky anyone bothers staying to give you a fight.

If you had any honour as a player you’d be playing pure shatter spec, not some cowardly condition spec.

Sorry but i gotta say your comment is really stupid my friend
You don’t know how i play or who i am so you shouldn’t say bad things about me.
I used a berserk shatter build for 4 months in a row in Tpvp and a phantasm bunker build for 2 months in tpvp, should i really spend all my golds for creating the same build i used for most of my time during my experience with the mesmer in competitive pvp?
I like to change a lot of builds, i came back in this game after 5 months break.
Back when i was playing in september i never even heard of condi mesmer, so i was really curious to try a thing i never experienced from the first time i saw a guy owning me in hot join with this PU build, is this wrong?

Ross Biddle.2367:

As to the OP. Mobility is King in WvW. My rule is your build should start with mobility, and work from there.

Mesmer’s do not have the greatest landspeed (warriors do), but we have enough to compete well enough.

Here’s my vid of general gameplay with a build very similar to yours
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8td7XyA1JU

Here’s me running away in an epic chase demonstrating why mobility is King.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZ6UgA_MUo

I suggest dropping your ideals about staying to fight, and start playing to win (outside of friendly duels at least). But, that’s entirely up to you.

I would like to thanks ALL the people that commented in this post!
Btw, yeah this game pvp is about mobility, i saw different guys saying i should spec for mobility, like Ross Biddle. The problem here imo is that you can build yourself for movement all you want but you’ll still terrible compared to most of the classes, not to mention that traveller runes costs 10g each.
I have lvl 80 elementalist and lvl 80 warrior that i used for some solo roaming too, this 2 classes are awesome when it comes to movement, but i still never escape a loyal duel if i see that i’ll lose.
When i talk about honor as a duelist i DO NOT talk about fighting only in open terrain without fast disengages or avoiding line of sight, i even think that using veteran mobs around the map is still correct in a fight, what i call honor is the fact that once you start a fight, you gotta fight until one of the duelists die. This is my point, the only time i think leaving the duel is correct is when you understand that the fight will never end, like against some auto heal elementalists or guardian.
I’ll try to pull Blink in my build and see how it works.

Hi guys,
so yesteray my mesmer as rised from level 54 to level 80 (thanks knowledge tome buyable with pvp glory!)
I bought for my little asura a full new set of shiny things, with one thing in mind: solo roamer!
I usually do only tpvp, but i like changes, so i tried a new build, and i made this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vgQQNAW8flknpRtlqxBNcrNiY6RwhcAHJFt2rVSBvdhA-zUyA4MBZaBE9JwpwioxWXLiGreBTjmU1qgsHpIa1kCYRlRA-w
Now, i gotta admit this is pretty brutal! Almost invincible in 1v1, i even won a 1v2 against a guardian and a engie both lvl80 with ease, i had huge fun yesterday.
BUT here comes the real problem:
I am one of the few players that never escape a duel once the fight is started, if i lose, the enemy deserve his wvw experience and the good feeling of the stomp, trying to escape is good if you see a zerg or too much outnumbered, but i have an honor as a player, i’m not gonna show my enemy the back!!
TOO BAD most of the players do not have the same idea as me, so this is what happened yesterday:
-fight a DD ele, after a real long fight he is at 20% life, pull out his FGS and run, i’m too slow to chase him.
-fight a power engie, after only 5 seconds he have 30% life, so he decide to drop his elite on my head (stun), use his rocket coward boots and start running with his perma swiftness.
Now the question is:
How do you guys chase a coward enemy that choose to lose pride instead of taking a free WP after his death?
I really need suggestion here!
Thank you very much

Thanks to ALL for the feedbacks!
Sorry if someone got hurt for my sarcasm O.o

@Solori: the build i was using is something like this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vgAQNAR8clknpRt1oxBNcrNSY6Rv9twJpQ1pukCejbA-TsAg0CnIqRVjrGTNyas1MsYZxGCA
Gotta admit it does a lot of dmg, but i dont like the fact that i cant control 100% interruptions, if i use my interrupt while the guy is not pressing any skill, boom wasted!

@Maugetarr: yep that’s the build, we’re talking about spvp, not wvw, and as you can see sigils and runes are not used in the build, simply because i dont remember wich one my enemy used.

@Rahar: Thank you! Yeah i always had problems with 30 shadow arts thieves, the problem here is that in my opinion is almost impossible to win a 1v1 against this kind of build if you’re running a full berserk build, not only mesmer i mean, i cant imagine a burst ele winning against this dp/pd thief (but personal skills>class balance, so i talk about players with the same skill level).
Of course if we talk about cantrip ele or PU mesmer it’s different, but thief always had problems with long fights.

Kanenas.4906:

Mijo.3274:

Kanenas.4906:

lol, yes. So much -hmmm.. how to say it not very offensively- ignorance in one phrase triggered my self protection mechanism and caused me to stop reading.

Yeah sorry for the ignorance, but you know, nobody is bad by nature, i’m just stupid
I was refering to the fact that the interrupt build i was using is not efficent vs a class that can stealth everytime he want, you know, interrupt build works on “controlling” your opponent.
By the way if you are a thief, pls gimme some advice, i’m just rank 34 in pvp.

Sure, I will give you a clue or two! Stealth is not equal to "unlimited stunbreakers w/o CD”. Also “a class that can stealth everytime he want” exists only vs a bad opponent who lets him do it.
Always glad to help!

Oh ma gawd it’s embarassing how thieves always play the part of the pro players in forums, and spend their time whining about how UP their class is…
Guess you never tried a berserk mesmer with 1 sb on 40 sec cd and 1 condi removal on 40 sec cd, you know, experiment builds.
But the problem with this community is how everyone blame people for using the same builds and then ask for builds on their class subforum, guess you love using dp pd thief too…

BobbyT.7192:

Mijo.3274:

Kanenas.4906:

“Now we are 1v1, my stunlock build is not the best against a class that have unlimited stunbreakers w/o CD”

I stopped reading the rest….

Oh i’m sorry if something bad happened to you while reading the post my friend
You’ll read it when you get ok maybe

I also stopped reading at this point, you do know they nerf that already eh?

Read the comment i wrote after please

Kanenas.4906:

lol, yes. So much -hmmm.. how to say it not very offensively- ignorance in one phrase triggered my self protection mechanism and caused me to stop reading.

Yeah sorry for the ignorance, but you know, nobody is bad by nature, i’m just stupid
I was refering to the fact that the interrupt build i was using is not efficent vs a class that can stealth everytime he want, you know, interrupt build works on “controlling” your opponent.
By the way if you are a thief, pls gimme some advice, i’m just rank 34 in pvp.

Cynz.9437:

Looks like typical p/d d/p wvw build… it is one of the best for 1v1/roaming in wvw etc. but not so great in high competitive pvp since it lacks burst and easily countered by anyone with brain/condi cleans, is still plagued by stealth issue in pvp and lacks any kind of mobility so nobody would take that thief as roamer on team.

Is it OP in hot join? possibly. Is it OP in tpvp? No, it is useless.

P.S. btw you need only 1 stun break for such thief for basi venom (if he runs it) which is 45 sec CD. The bigger issue is actual condis. Blinds + condi clean work well vs such build as well as stuns and just major aoe. Mesmers have plenty of reflects, i would use them. If he is stupid, he will attack you and kill himself. If he is smart he will wait it out so i would just chain between reflects and CCs + condi cleans.

If he misses his CnD, he is screwed. If he gets stunned or pulled while trying to stack stealth through bp+2 he will die.

Wow a constructive and usefull comment, thank you!
Yeah as i said, i was running a expermintal build, i had only Decoy as stunbreaker and no condition removal, i was watching how interrupt buil works. Probably a PU condibunker build (the one i run in tpvp) could have won, but to be frankly, PU condibunker is probably the best 1v1 build atm, so it does not even count.
The thing that shocked me is how easy is to use this build compared to how efficent it is in doin the job, can believe people blame only hambow warriors.

Kanenas.4906:

“Now we are 1v1, my stunlock build is not the best against a class that have unlimited stunbreakers w/o CD”

I stopped reading the rest….

Oh i’m sorry if something bad happened to you while reading the post my friend
You’ll read it when you get ok maybe

Hi guys,
This is not for hate or something, just discussion and to get some advice to fight this build.
Yesterday i was messing in hotjoin trying strange expermintal builds as always (i think hotjoin exist for this), just so you guys know i was using a berserk mesmer build, of course not the best in this kittenty condibunker meta.
A thief come, the moment i saw her i knew it was problem for me, i had only 1 stunbreak (on CD), and every kind of thief could have owned me in seconds with the build i was using.
So the fight start, and it’s like this:
(1) Me, mesmer + (2) ranger + (3)something so bad i didnt even had the time to understand wich class he was using that he already started running random attacking Svanir just to die from the mob lol
AGAINST
(1) The thief + (2) a power necro, a bad one

I down and stomp the necro in seconds.
Now we are 2v1, but here comes the nightmare.
The thief start a super gimmick dance, stealthing every few seconds, every time she reappear all conditions are cleaned, and a good portion of life restored.
She down the ranger, stealth, stomp, i dont have the time to save him.

Now we are 1v1, my stunlock build is not the best against a class that have unlimited stunbreakers w/o CD, but you know, not every mesmer run PU cheese builds.
I say to myself “this thief already stomped 2 guys in the last minute, i saw her using thief guild, shadow refuge, shadowstep and the backflip heal, and she have 50% of life remaining, I CAN MAKE IT FFS!!!!!”
The fight start, every time one of my phantasm hit she lose half of her life, but then she stealth and boom, no condi and life regenerated, so i understand she have 30 in shadow arts.
She hit hard, but not as hard as expected, not a berserk…
I the end i lose, i already used my skills, i have all in CD, while she keep on jumping and stealthing.
After she stomp me i whisper the player, i say “GG guy, most skilled thief i see in a while”, he respond “i fight more outnumbered in wvw”.
I know that the best duelist in the game fight in solo roam wvw, so he is for sure a more skilled player than me, but this fight was just too much, too humiliating for me, so i go on spectator mode, and watch the guy playing for the rest of the game to understand how uses his class.
What i find is just horrible, he’s not a pro player at all, not doin anything awesome like i expected, he just use the same lame rotations (5+2 D/P, classis rotations), and spend most of his time only autoattacking with the main hand pistol, every time he is low life or get condition he just stealth, wait, and start again autoattacking.
This is orrible, my pure and shiny mesmer, brave as he is, running berserk build against all odds, got stomped by a gimmick cheese build.
The build is this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQRAoa6Yl0MpoplOx7JsPNRw9wpKtpeK+KZ7UwV5D-TIAgyCuA
I didnt watched the runes and sigils so i left dem blank.
As last i wanna say that probably i could have won the fight with a more bunker PU buld, but i’m not here talking about mesmer builds.
I wanna know, is this build OP in pvp for you guys? i left the game 6 months ago and came back 2 weeks ago, so maybe this is an issue that you already know.

Hi guys,
in this 1 year and half of gw2 i did w3 like 10 times, i always liked more the tpvp.
But you know, running between 3 points and spamming aoe in small nodes can get boring after some times, so i decided to do w3 with my guild.
I have:
-elementalist lvl80 full exotic
-warrior lvl80 full exotic
-mesmer almost lvl80, i have the money and wallets to make him full exotic
-engie lvl 35, but my guildies hate engies, even if i think it could be useful with grenades

I actually used all of them in pvp, but i dunno how are the classes in w3.
From what i saw:
-elementalist: very funny in zerg fights, i actually have a bunker support build. Useless in 1v1 if builded with staff
-warrior: i’m a hipster so i’m not gonna run ham bow or hammer train things, too mainstream ;P, but the class is awesome and almost every weapon is avaible, too bad my pc is not that good so in gvg i would prefer to fight ranged to prevent bad lag.
-mesmer: i just hate how i am always the last one of the zerg, this class is so slow that just this thing make want to not log in my small asura mesmer. A part from that i like it.
-engie: look good, don’t know.

I’m gonna do basically group w3, with big groups, but i could do some small group or solo roaming some time.
What class and kind of set up do you suggest me guys?
PS: sorry for my kittenty english

The mace/shield + Gs build was the most OP build warrior ever had, i was the first one to talk about it on the forum, i remember winning some 3vs1 in tpvp, just too much!
I think the best version of it right now could be this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNApeRjkOxupQGPMxBEMDNsKOPoClgJ0HsDA-TsAA0CnICSFkLITQygsBNQYZxUEA
Zerker amulet is useless, the Valkyrie is way better for this kind of build, you simply dont need 100%+ crit chance.