I think it’d be nice to start giving people in spvp a reason to bother, for rewards outside of spvp, minor though they may be.
Else it’s going to just continue to dwindle as it has since release.
If someone gets 15s for playing spvp for an hour it isn’t going to ruin the economy, but it might give people some extra folks to play against.
I can go for some pvp but I’ve mainly stuck with WvW. The combination of anet’s absolute insistence that defending nodes is THE most exciting thing to do in existence, along with the fact that I just don’t really get anything at all for bothering to play repeatedly…I dunno it just wears out fast.
Need a good mix of reasons to do things in MMOs I think.
PVP in MMOs, ANY MMO, just doesn’t have the depth to me necessary to play as a standalone activity with no rewards needed.
If you roll out a big list of fixes/changes/features etc there’s always going to be some stuff on the list I disagree with or even roll my eyes at (if you’re a serious player of any game, could it be any other way?). But I like that it was done just the same.
I would like to see just as many patches like this, as actual content patches.
Well, 35 for amulet at the moment I think. Unless there’s a way to infuse the amulet that they didn’t tell us. Looks like it’s just 35 AR right now. The usual 30 from before and then 5 from putting an AR infusion in the new amulet (which no one should have for a few weeks).
Just to confirm, the chest and daily at the end of Maw is separate for each player right? so if 3 lvl 20s and 1 lvl 4 do lvl 20 fractal, the 3 lvl 20s will get the daily and chest in accordance to their level? while the level 4 gets his lvl 4 chest and daily.
As long as you evade and get “evade”, you’ll get credit.
This is an easy one to wrap up. Many mobs have easily telegraphed and dodgable attacks (probably easiest in the game is centaurs, if you want an example). Just get their attention and dodge their stuff for a couple minutes.
Alternately, Get the attention of a bunch of stuff and dodge randomly heh. I cleared it just being first to the clumps of mobs you get in DEs and then dodging early a bit.
I’ve done a whole bunch of fractals and don’t have 20 rings.
Salvaging them for ectos would be the kind of thing where across the board ectos might drop 2s for a week, then the excess rings would be gone and that’d be about it.
I’d rather leave “is MF good for the game or not” out of this and just focus on this particular infusion, which is going to actually have a meaningful effect on the economy.
I mean it’s not really a big deal atm since you probably don’t want to wear ALL cleric’s gear, in every slot. So you just wear it in the non ascended slots.
Seems pretty strange they still haven’t added the pow/tough/heal combo though. It’s been asked for long enough and is also a relatively popular stat combo people use on exotics already. Wonder if it’s an intentional change of game direction.
The point is that it’s so ridiculously better than anything else, you might as well increase drop rates and then just remove MF from the game. The choice isn’t even a thing.
This is a pretty silly part of the daily. Not because it’s unfair to non crafters, just because of how pointless it is. So I can go buy some iron ore or silver ore from the TP, just make and sell off the ingots quickly and maybe lose 12c, and then the crafting part is done. It’s not even a thing.
Usually one point of magic find on gear costs a fair amount in terms of stats lost. Now we have this +20% MF infusion that’s just so comically better than everything else available that even people that normally run no MF at all are going to want to use it.
And the game will literally need to be balanced around everyone running massive MF.
Need to review this one, it’s pretty important to the economy and the way we gear. Should be +3% or something, not 20.
I get what they were doing with adding ascended with laurels. That much is good, don’t make people do fractals if they don’t want to.
…But now we have these relatively easy to acquire infusions for laurels, that don’t have anything to do with agony resist. It seems like my best bet now is to just ignore fractals, replace my three agony resist infusions I have in the rings and backpack with stuff that adds stats useful everywhere, and just play on. (+20% magic find from an infusion for 20 laurels?)
Course I can just make a full second set of non AR ascended gear if I want. Seems kinda wonky though
I think it’s far too common for people here to blame market manipulators every time price on something is high.
Like when ectos went up. Bots are banned, new recipes added that wanted ectos (ascended backpieces), and people blame market manipulators for the price increase heh.
T6 mat price goes up, t5 mat price follows suit due to it becoming desirable to do the t5 to t6 promotion before the price on t5 mats reaches a certain point. No, “market manipulation”
I think the game has a strong basis and should be fine over time.
The things people want, better designed pvp, more engaging pve content, ways to measure up against others, more variety in gameplay, those are all things that will appear over time.
Fortunately, no sub. There’s really nothing wrong with just shelving the game for a while. It should be easy to pick back up whenever you want.
I think precursor prices are probably at the point where its profitable to make them in the MF and sell them repeatedly, if one was rich enough to tolerate the randomness and not freak out if they spent a few hundred g and didn’t get one.
Using lev 80 exotics, not rares.
I’ve always had a good amount of money but never enough where I felt up to the risk. That’s probably the main deterrant that’s keeping them at such a high price and not at what I’m guessing is the proper price point (like 400g or something) for the desired ones.
I’m in agreement regarding reward one gets from the game.
Your best bet seems to be just killing lots of mobs period, not bothering to do any particular more difficult task.
Seems like veteran mobs should have better drops and champion mobs should have MUCH better drops. Not something to make you serious bank, but just roughly in line with the extra effort it took to deal with them. I can kill 50 lev 80 mobs much faster than a champion mob, yet the 50 mobs will give me much more loot.
Regarding t6 totems (elaborate totems), try the Despond waypoint at Frostgorge. Kill the dredge.
It’s a somewhat popular farming spot, so you can group with other people killing there sometimes. Drop rate is so so. You may find it’s better to just play in orr and sell stuff to buy the t6 totems. But it’s somewhere else to play.
I’m just going to give my anecdotal experience here, but I have salvaged thousands of rares at this point (with the master salvage kit).
I get around .8 ectos per rare salvaged and it’s consistent enough that I use that measure to determine what’s worth making, what’s worth selling, what’s worth salvaging etc.
If they were to add some structured content that took more than 5 people to complete and it wasn’t necessary to optimize your character stats, they could have at it.
I’ve run raiding deep into the ground for so many years in so many games, I’m fine with never doing it again. Fine with others doing so though.
It isn’t really a big deal. If you want it done, you’ll complete it.
Just knock out one area and be done with it for the day, then do another next time etc. It only seems bad when you spend hours and hours doing zone after zone.
“Legendary Weapons are the end result of an epic adventure in Guild Wars 2. You’ll travel all over the trading post, collecting items and amassing money to buy your Legendary Weapon.”.
Fixt.
Sometimes when I’m feeling a bit saucy, I use the TP in Cursed Shore by Plinx instead of the one in LA. It was like an entirely new adventure!
It wouldn’t hurt for them to just have an additional rare chance to drop when you’re level 80, while otherwise preserving the normal loot table.
So people could goof around in plains of ashford and get the usual lowbie mats, same as they do now, but maybe every once in a while “Hey look I got a t6 totem”.
Wouldn’t have to be at a high rate, where people aggressively farm lev 1-15 zones, just something to throw people a bone on once in a while.
Should also revert the change they did nerfing coin/karma rewards on low level DEs for 80s too. Much the same deal here, they weren’t profitable to do, but it was a little something. Instead they cut the coin/karma virtually in half which I thought was a very strange change. It’s not like an 80 getting 1s 20c from low level DEs was going to ruin the economy. Now you barely get more than you do for killing a dolyak in WvW.
Not that they are even remotely interested in fixing the precursor issue but … they could do it in an afternoon.
Add a TAB to the Mystic Joke person (Myani) selling ALL precursors. 1 handed is 100 gold 2 handed is 200 gold. If people get one by way of a drop or the MJ then they still have a windfall of gold fall in their lap (as they should). This creates what the game desperately needs in the way of a REAL gold sink that removes REAL amounts of gold from the economy. The TP removes 15% compared to 100% with an NPC.
What is ironic is it would actually help them sell more Gems. More people would be willing to buy 100 or 200 dollars worth of Gems for conversion than 500+. So if it is Gem sales stopping them from this very common sense fix then they really don’t get the idea behind Walmart.
This is something I’ve suggested also and agree with.
I actually went higher on the price though, suggesting just a flat 300g across the board on the precursors. Still expensive to be sure but if you can manage the 3 other gifts, you can manage 300g. Bonus of not having that feeling that the price is moving up while you work towards getting money together. Would be a quite meaningful gold sink too which never hurts. Considering the icy runestones too, we’d be looking at many legendaries taking a flat 400g minimum out of the game (or even more if people are getting their lodestones by doing the core —> lodestone promotion, due to the wines from miyani needed for that).
Of course, they would still drop very rarely, so if someone gets a dusk and wants to sell it for 280g or something, they can have at it. For the less desirable precursors that sell for less than 300g anyway, nothing would really change and that’s fine too.
With the fractal bags, which ones do people prefer? I looked away from them because they move certain items around, which I don’t really like (I’m very OCD with inventory management).
I would assume you’d want all Uncommon Equipment Boxes, because they’re the cheapest, and they wouldn’t move dropped Exotics/Rares (which practically never happen anyway) all over the place – am I correct with this?
Those are the ones I use, just because they were cheapest.
I don’t really care about how my inventory is arranged with junk. It all shows up the same way when I’m either using the sell window on the TP to get rid of it, or at the sell window on the vendor to vend it. The stuff I use regularly from my inventory I keep in the 20 slot default bag we start with.
I just keep mithril tools equipped as my default gathering stuff and keep a set of the ori ones in my inventory for if I come across something I need them out to harvest with.
It’s generally cheaper to craft a bunch of rares to salvage for ectos, rather than buying the ectos. Course you’ll have to check mat prices to see which rares are the cheapest to make. Considering how often we need 250 ectos for stuff, it’s something that a long term player will definitely get use out of repeatedly.
I personally think the encounter should be more oldschool, where if you get knocked off, you’re dead and can’t continue.
The ability to zerg rez and still complete objectives is giving players free reign to be stupid and half kitten everything.
This! Since I’ve hit lvl 30 people dont seem to die as often anymore (so do I :P). It’s all about skill.
Tips for mesmers: Use illusionary warden (reflects projectiles), mimic (can reflect those knockbacks) in combination with stability mantra, and of course, feedback.
also you can stealth and skip the first part, then going down again without dying and port your group up, which is very hard to do but it can be done.
Absolutely. The 26 and 30 daily makes everything seems quite easy. Not that everyone’s SUPER AWESOME but just that they’re at least competent, which is good enough.
I fully understand what you mean. I know how to avoid the agony and only died in this fractal(yeah some drama about being no help for my team …) because of agony multiple times during multiple wipes. No difference to lvl 19 apart from the agony part. You get my point?
a) ocean fractal is bugged because you cant avoid agony here
or
b) agony itself is bugged, it isn’t meant to be avoided at all but mitigated through AR. I say this because they changed the way how skills like distortion work(dont work anymore on agony) and how agony works in the ocean fractal
There’s no logic, one time you need the AR to succeed and one time you don’t need AR at all because you can avoid it.
Agony on Maw is applied directly as a hard gate for your party. There is no avoiding it. Either someone in your party survives it, in which case you are allowed to clear the level, or you don’t clear the level.
It’s meant as a gate to prevent people from going beyond level 39. 5 people with 0 AR on 20 can still keep one person alive to res the rest of the party if they pool their group healing. The same 5 with 30 AR cannot do the same for level 40.
I’m fine with Jade Maw agony being a hard gate on the party as long as it’s possible for AR to mitigate it but at Frac ~40-50+ Jade Maw dishes out agony that is beyond 30 AR + all heals in the game.
We appear to be in luck on that, since on the 28th they’re adding an ascended amulet.
It’s uncommon but normal. You’re not doing anything wrong.
Course as you said, you’ve got the handy pristine relics which were added specifically for people that just have a string bad luck with RNG. So doesn’t really matter much.
In fact right after you get your rings with the stats you want, suddenly you’ll get rings in every other chest. =P
It would be fine if the mechanics were actually fair towards the player and it wasn’t just a huge time crunch.
The Asura fractal is by far the most annoying precisely because it is not challenging….just annoying.
1. Players can barely see the red circles while on the platforms.
2. There are way too many Harpies. Remove 2 from each path and I’d find that acceptable.
3. Give players more reliable ways to counter the Harpies.
Approach the harpy in melee range, it won’t knock you off.
Be careful when doing so that you don’t agro a harpy on a nearby platform while doing so though, THAT one will knock you off. If you’ve got 2 harpies on 2 platforms kinda close to each other, 2 players can stand on one platform each and get the attention of the harpy on their platform too. In a PUG if I don’t feel like communicating this, then have everyone argue with me (“I’ve been running this fractal since 1943 that’s not how it works!” gets knocked off platform for 6th time), I just let them deal with one harpy and I jump past them to the potentially dangerous one nearby and get its attention that way.
I’m not going to say I don’t get knocked off sometimes, but once you know what I said above, it doesn’t happen that much.
I don’t see this being a problem, but only if people know up front that this is what’s being offered. Thus they have the opportunity to just not join.
If it’s something where you’re just invited to fill a group then find out once you’re standing there at the boss “BTW 15g PLZ”, that’s really obnoxious.
If you helped clear the dungeon from the start then they try to extort money, of course report them.
Remember when t6 mats price go up, it ripples down through all the items by making the mystic forge upgrade recipe profitable until the items go up in price a certain amount. So people start buying more and thus prices go up on them too (until it’s not so profitable anymore).
Thus t5 prices go up. If t5 prices go up, people look at the cheap t4 mats and start buying those to do the forge upgrade to sell t5s too.
I’m guessing since there’s both dusk and dawn, you have a 50% chance of dusk and 50% chance of dawn if you get lucky and win the precursor roll.
It probably doesn’t mean “You’re twice as likely because there’s two loot rolls”. If it was, I think we’d have seen lev 80 greatswords go up in price more as people started actually making long term profit throwing them in the MF for dusks and dawns.
I think the only change they really need to make is to up the rate of drop for precursors a bit more/add more places with a small chance to get precursors.
Something where you can buy the more sought after ones for 300g or so.
Fortunately it looks like, while we won’t be getting the scavenger hunt any time soon, they seem to be looking to add more places where they can be obtained. I’m sure they’ll still be rare and very expensive, but maybe not in the 600g range anymore.
