Lol, the funny part about this, is that groups are also in WoW, so by that logic this game is already a WoW clone? I mean if it’s going to have raid (groups with more people) THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!
I think that Anet is trying to hard to not be like Blizzard, which sucks because WoW copies a ton of great ideas. So basically Anet shuns great ideas for the sake of their own pride vs what makes games so dang fun.
If Anet made GW2 to be anything like WoW, I wouldn’t be here, and they wouldn’t be getting my gem money.
For players like me, their strategy is working.
I am talking about features, since that is what they copy. They already have a formula in place. But let’s be honest, you play this game because it costs nothing a month.
I think that Anet is trying to hard to not be like Blizzard, which sucks because WoW copies a ton of great ideas. So basically Anet shuns great ideas for the sake of their own pride vs what makes games so dang fun.
When rabbits start killing people again, people will hunt in groups again. Seriously though I played solo on 3 characters, no need for groups, chit-chat, nothing. You have to go out of your way to find danger, and if it doesn’t drop sprinkles you probably wont find any help in killing it.
Last MMO I played that had housing was DAoC, and I have missed it ever since then. Wildstar and ESO are the two MMOs I am keeping an eye on at the moment.
Yup, yup!
I am actually excited about what little I’ve heard of ESO.
It’s sad these newer games have even less features than games 10-15 years ago, these pretty graphics do nothing for us.
Fact: Nobody will play a zone if there is no better rewards than others.
You know it, I know it, Anet knows it.
Lost shores map was proof enough of this.
So raids would have to be bound to better gear or we all know for a fact the majority would not do them and cry to the end for better rewards than non-raids until Anet does it.
If Anet was to introduce better rewards to raids tho, people would cry to the end about Anet lying, omgwowclone, geartreadmill grindfest, yadda yadda doomsayer copypasta.
It takes a very naive person to claim this is not what would happen.
So since however Anet creates raids there will be major tears around here, I’d rather them not doing them until the majority of the drama kids permanently quit GW2 and the community is in a stable state.
Raiding doesn’t have to be linked to a treadmill. Pretty armor would be more than enough and if you don’t want to raid, don’t.
No one is complaining about the legendary treadmill, it is completely optional. Since we don’t have GvG, and WvW is limited, what is the point of these massive guilds?
GW2 is like XBL, there is thousands of players online, but you can only play with a handful of people at once… I am almost positive GW2 was designed with consoles in mind.
But that’s why it is legendary. Not everybody in a game should be able to acquire it and it should take months of work just to get it.
Really? You do know that you can just buy most of the mats, or the weapon right? So your saying it’s not for those who don’t want to spend 2,000+ USD, nor for the people who will grind for what they need til the end of time, because of RNG? The system you support will be the death of this game. Being funneled into RMT to prevent people from playing the game, pretty much kills off the reason why we PLAY the game.
it’s a long term goal. Are you saying that if you’re making 5 gold a day you couldn’t get 2000 in 1, 2 years? How long does it take to get the most unique weapons in other MMOs? Just as long. The game is about playing. If, like I said, you want to buy the end game by spending 2 000 USD, then it’s better for the company and other players because you’re funding the game, however such activity is pointless and stupid.
I don’t want to buy the effing weapon off the TP! ANET wants me to buy gems to convert to gold to buy my legendary. Anet is already making a bad system worse, ads I get PM’d to all the time have way better rates than what Anet offers.
Problem is the gem store is supposed to be convenience, but it has been nothing but a huge inconvenience. Everyone seems to have the same answer “If you want it bad enough buy it!” Then why the hell bother playing?!!?
they want you to use gems to buy a legendary by allowing people to SELL legendaries? You make me laugh. Do you know that Anet even caps how much gems you can buy of their website? My Bf and I were trying to buy trough their website 2 1600 gems for new characters. After one was bought he couldn’t buy more for a while. How is than an encouragement to buy gems and convert it to money?
Well they want to give people meaning to go back to the world areas once you hit 80 (and have world completion at 100%). I just gave them one.
Maybe they will listen, maybe they will figure out something else.
You would discourage low levels from leveling if that was happening. Imagine two guilds waring in a leveling zone? What happens? A waypoint gets contested and the guilds would keep on killing the enemies that spawn there. Now what if a person leveling needs those enemies to complete a quest? How many people would quit the game?
Also what if someone does not have a good computer and slows down to 5 FPS in major events and WvW? They play Pve hoping to perform well and BAM! Suddenly 200 people at war!
Im going to do this one time only in every QQ thread about legendaries.
Its working as they intended and it will not change and I 100% agree with it because of three simple words.
Massive gold sink.
Massive gold sink? Transferring gold from one hand to another isn’t a gold sink. Removing gold entirely from the game, is a gold sink.
If legendary precursors were soulbound and implemented through a vendor for a set amount in the beginning Anet and the players would have been much better off. Arenanet pretty much gave bots free reign for a solid 2 months. As it is now Arenanet acts as they have no competition; however every day we have flyer’s in our inbox’s (in game/on forums) X USD = X GOLD plus X Bonus, right?
You think the TP isn’t dictated? If Anet doesn’t compete, we will all suffer.
By the way I release that to complete maps in 70-80 level zones is not interested at all is just waist of time, why, because You don’t have time to look around, they attacking from sky, from ground, traps and all places is dirty and stinky
Yup, I have played like 1,500 hours and I have no idea about Orr, I did map completion but I ran point to point and even now that I’ve done 4 80’s I still haven’t really seen much of anything in Orr. I just run the shortest route to pent/shelter and leave everything else in the dust.
I tried to listen your advise. But how you survive? Maybe you immortal? Here around is many veterans, fireballs from sky and risen catapults. Maybe you don’t have clue at all that about I am talking ;-)
This is picture for you. I am not superman and its hard to find help in this map.
Uh, yes I do know, and more often then not by the time you kill 2, 1 will respawn and be leashed to a guy that was standing next to him so yet another 3 to kill. Perhaps your profession is weak, or maybe you are to aggressive pulling to much, whatever the case – it can be done.
Hopefully still at exactly the same stat level as it is right now. Anything else will not be taken lightly by the majority. Stat levels really need a top tier as a constant to keep casual players in the game. Having a definitive end goal is what makes this game attractive, even if it takes years to get the coveted legendary.
There is a vet spider event in the ruins in the SW of timberline falls that spawns on top of the commune skill point there that does not scale down correctly.
There is a vet spider that spawns outside of the event in the same location that does spawn correctly.
You’re right about that!! When I was finishing up world completion a few months ago ( that zone was already dead ) me, a warrior, and a random guardian fought that spider for like 35 minutes to get that skill point… What a nightmare!
I remember that… I did it on my guardian with a random thief who was nearby. It took us a while, but less than 20 minutes IIRC
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
I replied to who ever saying a “capable group could take them out” which it couldn’t because they probably could not catch them and do enough damage to kill them before they ported again, CC doesn’t matter either, bots will just ruin the experience. I am sure who ever runs the bots check every once in a while to make sure they are all alive ect.
It’s been me and you chatting this whole time and it most certainly has nothing to do with the tea in China.
If all they do is port away, what difference does that make? You’re the one who brought up porting bots btw, OP said nothing about them.
I’d assume they are not retro-bots running in circles killing mobs that come in range, so that leaves us with porting bots.
There is a vet spider event in the ruins in the SW of timberline falls that spawns on top of the commune skill point there that does not scale down correctly.
There is a vet spider that spawns outside of the event in the same location that does spawn correctly.
You’re right about that!! When I was finishing up world completion a few months ago ( that zone was already dead ) me, a warrior, and a random guardian fought that spider for like 35 minutes to get that skill point… What a nightmare!
Why do people keep tying great ideas to wow concepts.
They could have raids simply for the challenge and reward amazing skins, money, mats, etc etc.
Why are you all so kitten stuck on treadmill crap and just outright reject anything that MIGHT indicate treadmills in your mind.
Not sure why more people don’t support raids if they had no treadmill… the challenge is welcomed because all the pve content in this game is stupidly easy for the most part…… sorry devs its the truth.
My guess is a lot of peoples first mmo was World of Warcraft, most popular mmo anyways. Gear treadmill is either welcomed, or hated, but GW2 already started the treadmill so why stop now?
Anyways I agree, the PvE in this game is to easy and is littered with artificial difficulty.
What’s wrong with good ole fashioned armor and normal drop rates? Silly to get gear to get gear, I mean in WoW it makes sense because of progression; however in GW2 you’re not progressing in gear, you are using gear to get gear to…?
No matter how capable your group is, your not going to destroy a group of teleporting bots.
That’s not the way bot teleporting works. The worst that will happen is they just teleport away when the program tells them to.
^ Wha?
That is exactly how it works, they port to x location do x action, then port to next location.
They port to x location, the program presses f to gather mats, and then on a timer it ports them to the next place they need to be. It doesn’t and can’t port them, use xyz combo, dodge, down whoever they’re fighting and then port away. There is no possible way that a bot could fight to the degree a human can in an online game.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
I replied to who ever saying a “capable group could take them out” which it couldn’t because they probably could not catch them and do enough damage to kill them before they ported again, CC doesn’t matter either, bots will just ruin the experience. I am sure who ever runs the bots check every once in a while to make sure they are all alive ect.
I’m just returning to GW2. I’m playing a level 20 warrior. When I played before, dynamic events were swarmed with players and were pretty easy. Now, I’m usually finding myself alone. The problem is, I’m finding myself facing multiple foes my level or higher when I’m trying to complete things. Sometimes as many as 5 or 6. How am I supposed to take on that many mobs at once? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks!
Good luck mate, it will be like that for the next 60 levels.. It almost killed me to level my 4th 80. Best bet is to look up some good crafting guides and level past the more annoying zones and get 100% completion on the easier ones.
I like to farm, put on some music, jump on TS and bs with people is relaxing casual play, but this game doesn’t allow that really. I love to raid, and do instances; however no raiding in this game and the instances that don’t include a metric ton of boring trash mobs are so stale now day’s.. I don’t even log in much anymore because I know what I am going to end up doing and I know it’s not going to be worth my time.
Though I think I need to log in some time before the 28th an switch servers, just in case by some miracle they fix the game I can pvp with my other guild when I am not farming.
I don’t understand. What does all botted up mean?
What exactly were they doing to make you think they were bots. Is the only proof you have that they moved like bots?
I really don’t see how it could effect server scores as these bots would easily be destroyed by any capable group of a few people.
No matter how capable your group is, your not going to destroy a group of teleporting bots.
I think Anet is stuck between a rock and a hard spot right now. Gem sales are probably at an all time high do to item scarcity, but gold sellers are also hitting hard and offering more gold for your money. (so the ads say)
Either way they will never get another dollar from me until they remove DR’s and fix the drop rate. If I can’t have goals, I see no reason to just play to play.
By the way I release that to complete maps in 70-80 level zones is not interested at all is just waist of time, why, because You don’t have time to look around, they attacking from sky, from ground, traps and all places is dirty and stinky
Yup, I have played like 1,500 hours and I have no idea about Orr, I did map completion but I ran point to point and even now that I’ve done 4 80’s I still haven’t really seen much of anything in Orr. I just run the shortest route to pent/shelter and leave everything else in the dust.
lol legendary is just cosmetic…..yes but its the only thing that is making me play this game because i am bored totally there is nothing to do i finished all dungeons have 4x gear , now just farming gold materials for precursor who’s price is 600 gold (LOL) , if i make my sunrise i will play for some while and quit i suppose.
I feel the same way. There isnt much to do in this game. I have lots of armor sets and 4 level 80s, my elementalist is 80 soon so that will make it 5. The only thing im doing atm is playing with guildies and trying to save some gold for a precurser (i already made the 3 gifts) But with all the DR and RNG on mystic forge its starting to feel like its impossible to get it. I have gotten alot of good hours out of the game and alot for my money, but i just dont know what to do anymore other than finishing my legendary.
And WTF is up with players/sites controling the market! the precursers just keep rising ill never have enough gold to purchase one. If i go to my PM all i see is spam from gold sellers that have now begun selling precursers and finished legendarys. This kitten is getting worse every day! Yes im frustrated and yes im angry, i know its just a skin. But what sould i do in this game. I have completed dungeon master/ all jumping puzzles / all explorables, 100% world completion. Im at fractal level 35 (i know thats not alot to some of you guys) sPvP is borring if you play 8v8 is mini zerg vs mini zerg because of the lame pvp exp, WvW is nice when roaming but what up with zerg vs zerg?
rant out.
Legendaris were never considered as END GAME. Wvw, spvp, dungeons, events … are the end game.
So …. you want your Legendary, lets say .. easyer, cheaper, less rng or whatever?
So …. you have your Legendary now, what are you plans? You quit right? Because you said you are bored of the game and has nothing to do, you play only for Legendary ..
I dont understand you logic here then, if you dont find end game of Guild wars 2 fun and only thing that keeps you playing is one single weapon skin, why are you still playing? You know that you quit the game after you obtain it anyways, it wont magicaly make the end game of Guild Wars 2 fun after you craft it.
So make yourself a favour, quit the game now or wait for update. Just dont complain about Legendaries, because obviously you dont enjoy the game itself atm and you want your Legendary NOW so you can quit or show off and then quit.
I know what I am talking about, I have crafted myself 2 legendaries, Juggernaut and Predator. I bought Pre cursors from TP. And believe me or not, you get bored of Legendaries almost as fast as other dungeon/crafted weapons and It wont make you magicaly love gw2 again.
So you can be only glad that pre cursors, mats are so expensive, because if they werent you would be probably now playing an alt, League of Legends or whatever.
Getting a legendary has nothing to do with making the game funner, it’s accomplishments, accomplishments that are blocked by crappy systems and greed. Let me play the game the way you sold it to me, don’t change it on me because the gem store is a complete flop, if Anet wants 15 a month, I’ll be happy to play, but remove the god kitten anti farm systems because they are not working, all they are doing is punishing legit players.
Consider most people dont’ have a problem making 1-5 gold an hour.
Doing what, exactly?
I have yet to find anything profitable in crafting. Everything on the market is set at break even, at best, except the raw mats which are laughably overpriced.
Easier to just farm and leave crafting as the joke that it is, or… well… dump crafting for the joke that it is; outfitting low level alts is about the only use I see in it.
FotM all day like a zombie, or buying enough gold to play the market simulator.
Just playing the game, like Anet said will yield no profit and nothing to get excited about.
“We don’t think you should have to get to level cap before the real game starts”
But that’s why it is legendary. Not everybody in a game should be able to acquire it and it should take months of work just to get it.
Really? You do know that you can just buy most of the mats, or the weapon right? So your saying it’s not for those who don’t want to spend 2,000+ USD, nor for the people who will grind for what they need til the end of time, because of RNG? The system you support will be the death of this game. Being funneled into RMT to prevent people from playing the game, pretty much kills off the reason why we PLAY the game.
it’s a long term goal. Are you saying that if you’re making 5 gold a day you couldn’t get 2000 in 1, 2 years? How long does it take to get the most unique weapons in other MMOs? Just as long. The game is about playing. If, like I said, you want to buy the end game by spending 2 000 USD, then it’s better for the company and other players because you’re funding the game, however such activity is pointless and stupid.
I don’t want to buy the effing weapon off the TP! ANET wants me to buy gems to convert to gold to buy my legendary. Anet is already making a bad system worse, ads I get PM’d to all the time have way better rates than what Anet offers.
Problem is the gem store is supposed to be convenience, but it has been nothing but a huge inconvenience. Everyone seems to have the same answer “If you want it bad enough buy it!” Then why the hell bother playing?!!?
Well, heck. That’s kind of disappointing. When I played WoW, my tailor/enchanter was a good moneymaker for me — same thing when I played Rift (outfitter/runecrafter).
I guess in GW2, it’s not even worthwhile to skill up to make and sell bags?
Pretty much anything you can craft, will sell at a loss, even if you farm the mats yourself since the mats are worth more than what you are making. I mean that isn’t always the case, but a lot of the times it is, browse lower level insignia’s, sometimes you can land some cash making them. (3s to 15s ea.)
I did world completion on 1 character, I was level 80 long before I finished the completion. I have 3 level 80 alts who only have done a handful of zones and only completed 2 kessex hills and gendarran fields.
If you are under-leveled try doing some hearts and exploring, not just b-lining to the next zone.
That gold pretty much was all I had saved since the start of the game. However, I suppose you could make 5g a day easy by running all routes of AC and the first two of CoF. So that would only take 20 days. God, this is such an epic legendary quest.
Don’t forget the 100 charged lodestones some of us have to do at 4.3 gold a stone.
/gasp
Was that taken today? I logged on to check the prices and 1 was for 3g95s and the rest for 4g12s
If they go up to 5g I will get banned.
Yes it was taken today…
…and why would you get banned? o_O
Because I refuse to log/payanet/buymats/logout as my game play experience.
I still want to make a legendary. I probably wont, but I’ll try before I quit. I can post here all day and not worry about DR’s, though I do tend to get more infractions…
I use crafting to get by those levels I don’t want to do, mostly from 70 to 80, other than that like WanderingOne said, if your into making a legendary why not?
If neither, I’d stay away from crafting, better off to sell your materials and make money than to have a dime a dozen profession that offers no perks.
But that’s why it is legendary. Not everybody in a game should be able to acquire it and it should take months of work just to get it.
Really? You do know that you can just buy most of the mats, or the weapon right? So your saying it’s not for those who don’t want to spend 2,000+ USD, nor for the people who will grind for what they need til the end of time, because of RNG? The system you support will be the death of this game. Being funneled into RMT to prevent people from playing the game, pretty much kills off the reason why we PLAY the game.
That gold pretty much was all I had saved since the start of the game. However, I suppose you could make 5g a day easy by running all routes of AC and the first two of CoF. So that would only take 20 days. God, this is such an epic legendary quest.
Don’t forget the 100 charged lodestones some of us have to do at 4.3 gold a stone.
/gasp
Was that taken today? I logged on to check the prices and 1 was for 3g95s and the rest for 4g12s
Different tastes? you have like 2 options as hardcore, and both are lackluster to say the least.
hmm
1. WvW
2. Spvp
3. Dungeons
4. Fractals
5. getting all the possible classes to level 80
6. getting all the professions to level 400
7. getting full world explore on all of those said classes
8. If all is said and done, getting legendaries for all of those said classes
Thing is, I don’t want to buy endgame, but I have little choice otherwise.
I don’t enjoy anything from the gemstore, I just buy legal gold, that is all.
Well I don’t buy gold, but managed to amass 70 gold so far. Gold is not hard to get and nobody needs to buy the end game in this game.
That isn’t hardcore, that is obsessive.
Lol@70g, please… I am talking much bigger numbers, hell I spent more than that on my t3 cultural 3+ months ago (legit farming 2 days) btw those days are gone.
why would you need much bigger numbers though? This is me not trying to farm, playing the game for my pleasure (500 hours in 2 months FTW!) and yes, you have guessed right, I’m saving for the cultural t3 at this point.
Now if I wanted to make huge sums of money
- weapon smithing, farm lodestones in dungeons, sell special weapon skins for 50G or more.
- TP playing
- dungeoning, yellows for sale if worth it, exotics for sale if worth it (if not get ectos from both), blues and greens for mystic forging, dungeon tickets for buying dungeon gear to ecto it once again. Sell ectos for profit or collect them for things that you need them for (ascended upgrades, legendaries)
I don’t really see the rush for getting money though having in mind that it would give me no advantage.
Go spend a day trying to make some progress on a legendary, better yet spend weeks trying to gather charged lodestones, months trying to get precursor. Legendary is endgame for me, that other stuff you listed is pretty boring to me at this point, reason why I talk about big numbers is because most of the ways to get gold via playing the game (not a sub game ie: market sim) have been nerf’d. ArenaNet has made the open world a pointless place. I don’t want to do FotM all day, every day, just so I can work on my legendary. “Let the player decide” LOL! Honestly though I’d love to finish Sunrise and shelf the game.
Charged Lodes are pushing 4g ea. and the precursor is what 400g?
I’m just sayin’, what you’re working on, I’ve done already, over and over and over.
Different tastes? you have like 2 options as hardcore, and both are lackluster to say the least.
hmm
1. WvW
2. Spvp
3. Dungeons
4. Fractals
5. getting all the possible classes to level 80
6. getting all the professions to level 400
7. getting full world explore on all of those said classes
8. If all is said and done, getting legendaries for all of those said classes
Thing is, I don’t want to buy endgame, but I have little choice otherwise.
I don’t enjoy anything from the gemstore, I just buy legal gold, that is all.
Well I don’t buy gold, but managed to amass 70 gold so far. Gold is not hard to get and nobody needs to buy the end game in this game.
That isn’t hardcore, that is obsessive.
Lol@70g, please… I am talking much bigger numbers, hell I spent more than that on my t3 cultural 3+ months ago (legit farming 2 days) btw those days are gone.
And what do you do with those gems for 15 pounds/ dollars? Do you buy your way out of playing the game? If so, then what’s the point? To say “I beat it”? Also what would you be doing in the end game in other games? You got the best tier gear set after months of work grinding countless raids and dungeons, now what? You can stand there showing off, but what’s the point?
Thing is, I don’t want to buy endgame, but I have little choice otherwise.
I don’t have much free time anymore and when I do I can’t muster the energy to play. Actually thinking about killing another dragon 1000 times, doing DE’s all the way to Orr again just depresses me.
there is nothing to do i finished all dungeons have 4x gear , now just farming gold materials for precursor who’s price is 600 gold (LOL) , if i make my sunrise i will play for some while and quit i suppose.