Guild Wars 2

Gameplay: If you don’t enjoy it, you shouldn’t be here.

Have you seen a content patch? It’ll be in one. It won’t be until after May 15th at the earliest and more likely the end of the month.

You’ll probably have 2 weeks heads up also.

Happy 2013 everyone! I wanted to take the time to provide insight on some of the exciting features, events, and stories we intend to bring to Guild Wars 2 in the first half of the New Year.

I’ve highlighted one of those operative phrases of the English language that should tell you your use of the word “promised” is flat ()#&^$ing WRONG.

YOU are the specific form of 46-chromosomed life on this Earth that prevents us from having nice things. Because they can’t say anything to use without people reading a short novel worth of presumption of commitment into it.

You might see the problem better if you consider than some days are better/worse for a casual stroll to the laurel than others. Hit a couple of bad days, and you won’t be logging in to check for a gimme set.

I think GS’s “Dodged the Nerfhammer” passive effect is a lot more powerful than people give it credit for… .

Goodness, even the third derivative to your performance function looks like an inverse-competence curve. You’ve achieved what may be the first scientifically verifiable recursive stupid-dumb-stupid loop…

Try asking in the audio forums – the Devs for that board are actually a good combination of nice and chatty . If they don’t solve your problem personally there’s likely to be some audiophiles around who can put you on the right track.

Then update that post – move it to the front page .

Bottom line is posting about it in this forum is not going to help. If you’re willing to take the time here, take the time where it will matter.

Just checking, but is that flavor of 2-on-1 supposed to be higher or lower on the fun scale than being double teamed by a pair of thieves who can coordinate their routines and/or 2 warriors running interlocking immobilizes or you know, ANY pair of DPS builds looking to burry you…

I’m not seeing how two condis stand out in that field.

Hmm. My current PvP character carries Well of Power and Deathly Swarm.

I find incoming conditions hilarious.

“Ha-ha! You thinking putting conditions on me helps you…”

redslion.9675:

Ankushp.7245:

Anybody who needs convincing to make an Asura is not Asura material.
We are the master race. All will serve us. It is inevitable.

PS : We will roll over the Charr legions with endless Golem armies.

And only 60% of them will turn against you!

Nice. Clearly there have been major breakthroughs in Golemetic Subservience Protocol since I last canvased the subject.

I was fully prepared to have to subdue 90% of them after Operation: Catnap…

Wait. What security level is this channel?

Awesome. Now follow the link I posted.

I’m thinking the word “rare” in that recipe is not optional.

Decision → Consequence

This should not be a foreign concept.

Sligh.2789:

Your response shows that you have an ongoing CDI that nobody is paying attention to because you are too busy. Why wasn’t the CDI stopped or paused, or more importantly, why wasn’t there a person designated to continue the process while others were too busy? The brand is now tarnished because whenever you are “too busy”, the community is not that important.

Er… you realize there is NOT a CDI running presently? Specifically because in an environment predicated on every post being read by the hosting Dev, if the Dev’s not available, the social contract is not upheld. So rather than hold a sham (and a sham we’d detect almost instantly) they’re waiting until they can make good on their side of the bargain. There is no promise or presumption that CDIs are a constant undertaking. But if you feel honesty tarnishes the brand… well, I can see why they’re so eager to communicate with you.

Most corporate entities understand that the customer is always first and should never be ignored for even a scant few seconds.

It’s like a time capsule from the 1960s .

The customer hasn’t been first any time this century. Shareholders come first. Sorry if enlightened self-interest dictates spending a month conquering new markets.

There’s a practical cap on dye costs based on the cheapest way to create them in the forge and the relationship to t6 mat at the laurel vendor. But they could still settle out much higher than they are now.

Do a little more research then Read This.

The glut of UIDs will pass. The current cost of 20s is hardly a fixed value…

style.6173:

Condi spam is ridiculous at this point. It needs a big adjustment.

Then kitten play it. Play it into the ground. Play it so big and so loud they cannot ignore it.

Until their metrics show a problem: Your. Words. Mean. Nothing.

I’d say the promotable blades backpack was probably the most wildly successful drop/gear item they’ve ever released – and it came DIRECTLY out of the horizontal progression CDI, so I disagree with your assessment .

ceol.9175:

Nike.2631:

You might want to consider just taking a break for then next week or two while they finish up in China. While I think the content folks are probably still inching along behind the scenes, the hard-coders have got to be up to their eyeballs in last minute chaos and probably won’t be putting out anything less than fully catastrophic fires until after the launch.

If this drought of communication and bug-fixes is seriously because of the China launch, they should rethink something, because they obviously don’t have the resources to support a third region (completely separate from the other two, by the way.) That’s just supremely idiotic to pull all of your resources from the stable playerbase that still needs work and put them on an unstable, unproven playerbase. It causes tension and distrust in your loyal playerbase. That’s not even putting all your eggs in one basket. That’s taking your eggs from the basket, putting them in a plastic bag, and swinging them around at the guy who sold them to you.

Even if there are still folks supporting the NA/EU regions, the fact the only communication we’ve received has been the exact same thing you see in 8 month old necro’d forum posts that have gone nowhere leads us to assume our concerns will fall by the wayside.

I’m trying to see how in the broader MMO industry the notion of stepping out for a month is all that radical.

Have we really been that conditioned by the 2-week cadence of the Living Story to lose our minds because they’ve been busy elsewhere 16 days? Your definition of “drought” as it applies to bug fixes must come from some other language than English because there have been 8 patches since the features pack with the most recent only 5 days ago.

And really, this silence people are harping on is grossly exaggerated. There’s still new entries in the Dev tracker daily (excluding weekends). I guess Chris will be happy to know that people are pining so fiercely for the CDIs. Because outside of an unusual gap in those, I’m still seeing various devs poke their heads in once in a while in their respective areas – tracing problems in the Personal Story arc, John Smith teaching economics lessons, the occasion “Hmm, that might be a good idea for PvP ranking” chatter. Pretty much business as usual on that front.

How much hand holding do we really need? Yes, a glossy front page announcement of LS Season 2 would be nice, but I’m thinking I can guess what it’s going to be about .

Are you the sledgehammer or the tripwire?
The thoughtful strategy or the tireless sword-arm?
The crushing avalanche or the drowning wave?

There are Guardians that fit into either category.

Make the class and your legend your own.

Lishtenbird.2814:

Nike.2631:

Just out of curiosity, have you filed bug reports for these things?

I’ve been reporting and listing bugs till the moment I got tired of being a beta-tester and seeing that most of reported things were never touched. My amount of good will towards ANet has been depleted, and I for example do not want to waste my MF booster time reporting yet another bug of which they should be aware of by checking their logs.

I’m sorry to hear you’re no longer part of the solution, though I can’t fault your loss of patience.

You might want to consider just taking a break for then next week or two while they finish up in China. While I think the content folks are probably still inching along behind the scenes, the hard-coders have got to be up to their eyeballs in last minute chaos and probably won’t be putting out anything less than fully catastrophic fires until after the launch.

We don’t have to like it, but understanding it provides a certain measure of calm. Personally, I don’t have to have a red-name come and explain it to me to work it out from the info we do have. But maybe a community rep will be by to add a few words.

Just out of curiosity, have you filed bug reports for these things?

Missing the point.

It doesn’t actually matter which version is better/more balanced/drowns fewer kittens. The outcome doesn’t affect me at all because my characters that use stacking sigils don’t rotate them out.

What matters is making changes has a cost — measured in the confidence of your player base. Making more changes because you missed something OBVIOUS is putting unprofessional lack of finesse on parade. I’m saying they need to balance ‘is the change necessary?’ against eating the costs of rightly being mocked for being completely oblivious to how their own game works combined with a proof positive example that WILL be cited again and again that they don’t read the forums enough to notice when we tell them something’s subject to casual subversion in the plainest possible language.

msalakka.4653:

No, but they wouldn’t move on to other games which are still under active development.

It’s been two weeks since a major release. By what possible standard is GW2 not under “active development”?

This whole board needs to switch to decaff or something.

Hey, I like direct acknowledge as much as the next guy, but I’m also aware they are in the middle of a huge, complex push and are a little preoccupied.

The silver lining is while some groups most be heavily engaged in the China-launch a lot of other teams are almost certainly going about their work. They may actually be building up a little reserve of finished material to be doled out when season 2 spins up.

Silent for a month after the feature patch doesn’t worry me. Keeping a stable body of code makes sense to me. Silent for a month after the China Launch is past tense? Then I’ll get anxious.

Mazzy.3176:

They remind me of a cross between Yoda and Stitch… Sold?

My engineer was totally modeled on Stitch.

And he’s scared/horrified several other Asura players, so I’m satisfied .

Actually, if you look at the Dev Tracker the community folks have been around like always.

((shrug)) I have 2 precursors sitting in my bank – one I bought and one that dropped a few weeks later.

The prospect of rounding up 2,000 t6 fine mats has me pretty much ignoring the whole process.

I play all parts of the game to varying degrees. Where I’m coming from is IF they felt that using a underwater weapon to hold stacks is a problem, its a problem they should have noticed on their own long before going Live and if by some dark miracle of no-coffee-that-morning they missed it, its pretty kitten insulting that we talked about it at length in the class balance forum and they still missed it. We found the loophole for them and they couldn’t be bothered to so much as skim the feedback — all this weeks before release when they could have acted on it gracefully.

Changing it now raises questions like “Does your QA team/internal testing groups even TRY to break stuff?” and less flattering observations of the “How can you be so unfamiliar with the character sheet that you forgot those slots in the lower right-hand corner?” variety.

Fortunately the linked message does not indicate definitive action one way or the other. They still have the opportunity to just quietly back out of the room and keep their dignity.

So, in what universe are there direct/power-based damage dealing builds that aren’t “spammable”? Spamming “I’m trying to kill you” is universal, not a uniquely condition-damage thing.

Big concept time – “conditions can kill you” is working as intended. Damage, ALL TYPES OF DAMAGE, works. It kills things. Quickly. Very quickly in the case of direct damage.

But really, if you’re the sort that wrings your hands over “the meta” there’s a very simple solution – play (and win with) what you want to see nerfed. They do not elevate underdogs, they beat down over-performers. Get on the bandwagon.

Prove that [flavor of the month X] in your hands is too strong.

I don’t see how it can be anything other than “working as intended” since the “underwater weapon as placeholder” approach was spotted and discussed at great length starting within hours of the revelation that stacks would be lost if you unequipped all weapons with the appropriate sigil.

My only concern with these is that 7% seems a bit high for such an easily maintained trigger. 5% damage for the 6/6 bonus would be plenty.

The April 15 patch was unrelated to the Ranger CDI – it typically takes 10-15 weeks to see concepts from the CDIs work through the system and be pushed to the live servers.

If there are any changes to Rangers coming from the CDI they would still be in testing now.

What part “You use it to craft terminal gear” makes you think it would be worthless?

Still: No. The entire point of the system is to require you get out and PLAY THE GAME rather than just buy your way to all pink gear.

moiraine.2753:

Well basically MMO is a Massive Multiplayer Online game so it is totally normal to expect to see many people around me.

One where most areas represent hostile wilderness… where it’s totally bizarre to see lots of other people…

Outside of city instances (which were already crowded in my Fort Aspenwood experience) seeing lots of people generally detracts from the plausibility of the world. How scary can the Godslost Swamp really be if there are dozens of professional face-wreckers just hanging out there for 10 minute before big bubba makes his scheduled appearance? If this were an modern urban setting MMO like City of Heroes I’d probably be right there with you, but its not – its feudal/steam-punk fantasy and having 100 people on the Bloodtide Coast map at all times does not improve the ambiance one bit.

I would much rather have had better content scaling than an invisible series of chutes that try to dump the maximum number of people into the minimum number of shards.

Aidan.4602:

Megaservers are really good, because: it’s a Massively Multiplayer Online game and you will see lots of people wandering around doing their own things, grouping up for boss fights, roleplaying, chatting, doing other things. And it really feels great.

I’ve never understood the mind that equates MMOs with crowds. To me the advantage of MMOs over single player games is I can hook up and game together with my friends. If I wanted to be around/see hundreds of people totally indifferent to my very existence as a human being, I’d sit in traffic.

Does vulnerability and an occasional blind make me a condition build? Because I’ve been running a power-based damage Necro lately and my win/lose record has more wins than losses, so its kinda hard for me to be convinced that conditions are somehow the only winning strategy.

If anything I’m surprised how many glassy everythings I meet. You poke them with sharp stick and they just pop.

zenleto.6179:

I was wondering where you got the leaf skirt from until I had a closer look. Very nice.

Thanks . When I first saw it I thought “hey now… leaves…”

My Norn necromancer Ivory Phoenix

Head & Leggings: Flame-kissed
Coat, Shoulders, gloves: Phoenix
Boots: Incarnate

I realize a lot of people loved the original flame-kissed, but I’m pretty pleased with the new version.

My sylvarii elementalist Seasons in Balance

Head: Incarnate
Coat: Dryad
Leggings: Phoenix (I like how the feathers are more like leaves with the right dye)
Boots: Snapdragon

No one believes this game is actually “play the way you want” to gain every possible reward.

Troll build is systematically not functional. Fire runes on a build that has no access to burning, signet cooldown trait with no signets.

Ha ha. Very funny for values of “funny” that include “stupid”.

Thankfully there about 14 good ways to sift the metrics they get from the WvW maps every second of every day that tell them more useful and more realistic ranked profession assessments than some player’s opinion-list splattered on the public wall of the forums.

I’m looking forward to them not selling ANY molten picks since they are defective compared to the exact same price Watchwork picks.

I’m sure a few people don’t know that a better pick exists/will likely be available. And then we’ll have an all new crowd of irritated players when they find out.

eleshazar.6902:

PvE = Full zerk only now. No forgiving a pvt or condi that slips in. Zerks can’t carry them anymore. Condis and pvt still slow and low end skill use.

I’m just waiting patiently for them to lower the 0-healing power base healing of all self-heals by about 12 percent…

…That’s all it will take to BREAK THE “zerker-uber-alles” META’S (*&#%@ING NECK.

Areoh.7495:

Same, and my Runes of Divinity are worthless, +18 if I have all six from +60. That is over a 30% cut in my HP, armor, toughness and other stats.

((Facepalm))

A full set went for giving you +60 in all stats to +78. That’s a 30% INCREASE.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Nike.2631:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Oh, the one that just received nothing but nerfs, 5 grandmasters that aren’t worth taking over anything that already exists, suffered the highest overall DPS loss of any class from the ferocity change, and had their only viable rune set in competitive PvP (Lyssa) nerfed? No, I haven’t heard of them. Please elaborate on how they’re OP.

Do you know WHY comprehensive nerfs like that get handed out? It’s not a dart board or slips of paper out of a hat process – its because they’re GROSSLY OVERPERFORMING.

Good thief players will continue to be competitive.

Wow you’ve enlightened me with your baseless facts and unfounded opinions. What do I do now that I know that thieves are OP? (Top 100 TeamQ, been doing this a while. Thieves are worse off than elementalists right now, and rangers have been thief food since launch. Your signature plays well into counteracting your argument. Read mine as well).

Wow, you’ve found one whole data point to support your position and assume that the Devs actions are based on responding to forum feedback (and only forum feedback you disagree with) rather than any sort of comprehensive overview of how the game is playing out in all modes.

I repeat – they don’t pick these changes out of a hat. But you go right on ahead thinking the process is out to get you.

style.6173:

Condi was OP before. Now it is over the top.

Really? Then why aren’t you playing it?

And what’s more, if “condi is OP” then why can’t metrics sensitive enough to detect a bird fart in outer Mongolia not picking up an actionable pattern of blow-out matches?