Guild Wars 2

I wonder what they were smoking when they decided to make rifle burst way more stronger than melee burst? The axe/GS burst (GS primal burst is actually a nerfed version of the normal burst) should be buffed and gunflame should be nerfed IMO.

Please remember to post the result. I want to see how viable they are :P

Booms.3952:

worminator.5174:

Ofcourse they are defeatable, even in 1v1. But it does not change the fact that its not balanced. High reward, medium/low risk. Show me another class that can destroy a whole teamfight while just casting brainless all traps at once. And because of aegis, blocks, invuln. and reflect you also have medium sustain.
Compare it with a shatter mesmer. Damage can be the same, but if you fail you are in downstate in just a few seconds, with or without ctrl+t. Thats the different.
And dont forget this incredible dmg of lb 2 with an 4 seconds cd. You can dodge it twice in 10 seconds, but what will you do then. Oh and i forgot that its piercing (without any trait).
Conclusion: User got carried by his build.

Druid, reaper, herald, tempest are all better than DH with similar “low medium risk high reward” and scrapper is about equal. Mesmer has always required higher level positioning, however it’s not “if you fail you are in downstate in a second”. With shield and continuum split as well as evade well, they actually have decent survivability. Sure you expect them to die sooner than other classes, but they also can moa, timewarp or gravity well TWICE within 5 seconds if they wanted to. And they can burn for 10-12k with almost no setup besides positioning. DH “burst”? Well maybe 10k on a squishy if you land a true shot and a test of faith in melee assuming theres no projectile deflection up at some point (there always is when someone is getting cc’d). Chrono gets countered by DH to some degree that is true. However that’s just one class and just means at least DH is decent at SOMETHING right now.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

The ideal nerf for them would be along the lines of:
1) Reduce dmg of traps by ~15%.
2) Set all traps cast-time to 1 sec and the elite one 1.5 sec.
3) Remove the daze from traps
4) Decrease the duration of the boons (7 seconds of protection, seriously?)
5) Decrease healing of the F2 skill. Without any healing power, core guardian’s F2 heals around 1600 I think and the new ones almost double of that. That should be reduced to core’s standard.
5) F3 is bugged. It blocks unblockable skills as well. Fix that please.

You would simply never see another DH again in your lifetime if those changes went through.

Not really. How is it fair when rangers/thieves have longer cast time on their traps which deals overtime damage rather than burst dmg by guardians?

Some classes don’t have access to protection at all (like warriors) and yet guardians get s freaking 7 sec for a trap on 24 sec CD (when traited) along with several other sources of protection)

The rest I explained.

The ideal nerf for them would be along the lines of:
1) Reduce dmg of traps by ~15%.
2) Set all traps cast-time to 1 sec and the elite one 1.5 sec.
3) Remove the daze from traps
4) Decrease the duration of the boons (7 seconds of protection, seriously?)
5) Decrease healing of the F2 skill. Without any healing power, core guardian’s F2 heals around 1600 I think and the new ones almost double of that. That should be reduced to core’s standard.
5) F3 is bugged. It blocks unblockable skills as well. Fix that please.

Vague Memory.2817:

Yes sure, anyone who doesn’t agree with you must be a troll. I’m going on my experiences in PvP, and all this nonsense that warrior is not viable is daft. I’m just not seeing that at all. A lot of warrs are upset that other classes can now compete with them, and are asking devs to buff them so they can be king again. What they are really asking for is an advantage over other classes like in the good ‘ol dayz. The real issue is the devs didn’t really give them a new game changing elite mechanic. But saying warrs are not viable is false.

Either you are trolling or being a complete ignorant. The state of warrior is the worst a class in Gw2 has ever been. Literally you can count on your fingers how many warriors you face on daily basis (excluding hot joins obviously) and being one of the most popular class, don’t you think more players would’ve played warrior if they were equal in abilities?

nacario.9417:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

SlayerSixx.5763:

Kosard.9720:

does 8,000 damage for getting hit by one ability seem fair? i rest my case.

100b, rapid fire, melee mind wrack, back stab, unload, grave digger are among only a few skills that can hit that much, if not more.

My warrior, with your average zerk build, can hit 17k on his 100b (burn stun breaks and hit 50% HP and its insta GG). My thief can land 10-12k unloads. BP > HS+steal with procs is over 10k as well. My guard can whirl for almost 9k (a lot more of I throw in SoW).

You can argue everything else like how it covers the entire point, how they burn your dodges using LB2 and then daze you with traps so you can’t use your utilities and get eaten up all while fighting from 1200 range or how they have an kitten of CC, but let’s not cry about damage here like they’re the only ones that can burst.

What? 100b takes a huge effort to set up the attack properly and most of the times it doesn’t land all 8 strikes on the intended foe. 100b channel is actually 3.5 second long and with 8 separate strikes while traps’ are instant. How on earth did you compare the two?

100b is easy to setup, you just press 2, some chose to stand in it, some leave, the cycle of life

Unfortunately, that’s the very difference between 100b in pve and pvp where no one with a brain would stand eating all 100b strikes.

Yasha.5963:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

SlayerSixx.5763:

Kosard.9720:

does 8,000 damage for getting hit by one ability seem fair? i rest my case.

100b, rapid fire, melee mind wrack, back stab, unload, grave digger are among only a few skills that can hit that much, if not more.

My warrior, with your average zerk build, can hit 17k on his 100b (burn stun breaks and hit 50% HP and its insta GG). My thief can land 10-12k unloads. BP > HS+steal with procs is over 10k as well. My guard can whirl for almost 9k (a lot more of I throw in SoW).

You can argue everything else like how it covers the entire point, how they burn your dodges using LB2 and then daze you with traps so you can’t use your utilities and get eaten up all while fighting from 1200 range or how they have an kitten of CC, but let’s not cry about damage here like they’re the only ones that can burst.

What? 100b takes a huge effort to set up the attack properly and most of the times it doesn’t land all 8 strikes on the intended foe. 100b channel is actually 3.5 second long and with 8 separate strikes while traps’ are instant. How on earth did you compare the two?

Seriously bro, you need to L2P. 100b is instant cast hits everyone in a 240 radius applies an aoe daze, and gives stability, aegis, swiftness, blindness, vulnerability. It can also be easily set up using the warrior’s teleport ability.

But its not OP, because the daze is applied before the damage which gives you time to dodge out of the way.

I need to L2P? Since when does 100b apply CC and all those boons and conditions? O_o
C’mon, I’m missing something here >.<

With so many ppl (including myself) preferring the old map over the new kitten map, I will be surprised if Anet doesn’t revert it back….but then again its Anet. They know exactly how to kill game modes for others (WvW and PvP with unbalanced specs)

Vague Memory.2817:

Warrior is the only class that I see win 2v1s on a regular basis in PvP. Win as in kill the other 2 players. They really aren’t weak. I think people are annoyed because the elite didn’t buff them so they stay at the very top of the pile.

Funniest thing I have read in a while. Obvious troll is obvious

Ironically for us warriors, the “core” class is the “elite” and vice versa

Anything but a warrior (and maybe thieves) LOL
Whatever little I have came across in WvW these days are groups of DH (lots of them) and reapers mainly.

I don’t think that Anet devs get that damage is not the problem for warriors, its the kittening sustain. Warrior drops like flies against some of the OP specs, melts like ice under conditions when zerker stance runs out. With no access to protection and superspeed and the constant need to be in melee range has ruined the warrior.

BUFF WARRIOR SUSTAIN, NOT DAMAGE. Give us PROTECTION and SUPERSPEED since most of the builds requires us to be melee range AND kitten FIX THE BUGS so that the skills actually hit.

Excellent time to get into our community if you’re an OCX or a SEA player to fight heavily against the odds in T1. Give us a try!

Berserker x5

Rampage is easy to counter. Blind spam alone (mesmers, guardians) can neutralize rampage (and the melee players in general). Guardians have tons of blocks which is a direct counter to physical attacks.

Also the rampage skill #3 misses a lot, around 40% of the time even when the enemy is within range.

Supreme.3164:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

messiah.1908:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

Vieux P.1238:

In the mean time, enjoy setting off traps with clones & pets. It’s funny to see em scatter when trap fails. :P

This ^.

Clones, pets, evades or well timed dodges can make traps useless.

I have mained a guard since head start & can definitely tell the difference between the idiots and smart players.

Traps basically destroy the idiots while the smart players turn them into wasted utility skill slots.

Please tell me what are we (warriors) supposed to do? We don’t have clones or pets. Do we just waste an endure pain (on a 60 sec CD) just to tank traps which can be activated again after 20/24 sec (traps CD)?

So, according to you all warriors are idiots? Maybe you can call us since we wanted to stay loyal to our class and not jump to a DH/Reaper/Scrapper bandwagon.

dodge it

How do you dodge something which you cannot see?

You need to join the Jedy Academy like the rest of us did years ago to fight mesmers and thieves, you will be trained to develop your 7th sense and with it the ability to dodge what you can’t see

Is that “7th sense” the access to “reveal”? :P

Locuz.2651:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

How do you dodge something which you cannot see?

You get dazed before it triggers the dmg part.

And what about the guardian using Judge’s intervention from 1200 range and directly laying all instant cast traps on you (especially Dragon Maw)? Unlike ranger traps, guardians have no cast time which makes it ridiculous IMO.

Mirrodin.8729:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Let’s just keep aside rest of issues that warriors are facing atm and take a look at the downed skills

No. 1 skill : Most classes inflict a condition in addition to regular damage. Mes applies confusion, eles applies vulnerability, thieves applies bleeding (or cripple? forgot), Revenant – This thing applies FREAKING SLOW, necro steals life, etc.

No. 2 skill : A single target knockdown with 1 sec cast time while guardians have AoE knockback with half cast time. Eles, thieves, mesmers can teleport/move to dodge a stomp (guaranteed) whereas if the warrior is blinded the #2 skill miss or if blocked.

Want to hear from some non-warriors how balanced is this…

unlike other classes, warrior has a chance to stand up and fight for a last breath with full access to weapons, utilities and elite, you just have to fight and make that time valuable, lets review others skill 3, guard has a symbol which can be useless if he is poisoned or launched, mesmer has a illusion that barely hurts and can be kitted, eles has those sorta useless “earth hands”, necros have a decent well, it can down players, engi is a explosion which i barely have the chance to use or be helpfull, thief has stealth…meh

if you want to complain about warriors, just do it in other place, downstate is fine, almost every mechanic from other classes can be avoided (blocked, blinded, dodged)

Guardian’s symbol AoE heals upto 5 players for a valuable amount (~750 each pulse IIRC and 8% to downed) within the range, eles inflict immobilize repeatedly, thieves stealth to prevent stomping AGAIN, mesmers – I agree their #3 is pretty useless, engi has another AoE CC to avoid stomping, necro has a AoE poison field which also deals very high damage..Warriors #3 is either a hit or a miss. Either way, without the trait the warrior dies after using #3 anyway ~80% of the time.

Most of the time players don’t get 8 seconds in downed state in a PvP match or in WvW zerg battles to activate skill #3 which is why I left them out. #1 is spammable and hence the most important, #2 I usable after a second of going downed.

Maybe you succeeded with small guilds because of how dead the BLs are due to the new maps? Or maybe you enjoy the PvD? Who knows……OP’s point still stands. 37 level requirement for +5 supplies is simply ridiculous when it was so affordable previously.

messiah.1908:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

Vieux P.1238:

In the mean time, enjoy setting off traps with clones & pets. It’s funny to see em scatter when trap fails. :P

This ^.

Clones, pets, evades or well timed dodges can make traps useless.

I have mained a guard since head start & can definitely tell the difference between the idiots and smart players.

Traps basically destroy the idiots while the smart players turn them into wasted utility skill slots.

Please tell me what are we (warriors) supposed to do? We don’t have clones or pets. Do we just waste an endure pain (on a 60 sec CD) just to tank traps which can be activated again after 20/24 sec (traps CD)?

So, according to you all warriors are idiots? Maybe you can call us since we wanted to stay loyal to our class and not jump to a DH/Reaper/Scrapper bandwagon.

dodge it

How do you dodge something which you cannot see?

ghost.9572:

if your your easily killed by conditions then u have no skill,prolly shouldnt try this build then,rarely strugggle with necros even in a 1v1.

Blind spam + reflects will kill you quickly. Mesmers, for example, have a high uptime of reflects through their traits and they have good access to blinds.

YuiRS.8129:

Warrior has the strongest downed state in the game, as in, he will win/draw a downed fight against any class in the game. It’s balanced by the fact his other downed skills aren’t that strong. I don’t think it needs to change. Would only add more condi spam into the game too.

huh? Assuming your post to be not sarcasm, please explain how its stronger than Rev’s downed skill with permanent slowness?

I am a 32 bit user (its impossible for me to upgrade atm) and I used to get crashes every 10-15 kind in HoT areas (don’t go there anymore) and randomly in old areas like SW, CS, cities which never happened before 23rd October patch. I really hope Anet fixes the OOM crashes for us 32 bit users ASAP.

YuiRS.8129:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Powerful Synergy works on leap FINISHERS on combo FIELDS. It doesn’t mean the particular leap skill is gonna activate twice. It means that the effect of a leap in a combo field is doubled. For eg, if you use a leap finisher on a fire field you will get twice the duration of fire aura.

All warriors stunbreaks, when traited with Eternal champion trait gives stability when breaking out of stun. Headbutt being a stun breaker will also give stability as long as you use it to break stun. Personally I use it to get 30 adrenaline during the start of a battle to get quickly into berserk mode in PvE.

Lol at your last paragraph

On a side note, Powerful Synergy is EXTREMELY WEAK for a grandmaster tier trait lol

Yeah. It’s like a joke or experimental trait. It’s not good enough to be a minor trait, let alone something that’s supposed to compete with… well, anything. If it doubled the effect of ALL finishers then maybe it would be worth considering.

Plus I think it’s bugged and doesn’t affect the fire shield, which is just sad.

I will be honest, the trait sounds so useless that I have never tried it so I have no idea if its bugged lol (won’t be surprised since Anet doesn’t give two kittens about warriors)

Nothing new. Rush (GS skill #5), Bull’s charge, Savage Leap (sword skill #2), Eviscerate misses ~40-50% of the time even if the enemies are well within the range…Anet doesn’t care to fix these unfortunately

Powerful Synergy works on leap FINISHERS on combo FIELDS. It doesn’t mean the particular leap skill is gonna activate twice. It means that the effect of a leap in a combo field is doubled. For eg, if you use a leap finisher on a fire field you will get twice the duration of fire aura.

All warriors stunbreaks, when traited with Eternal champion trait gives stability when breaking out of stun. Headbutt being a stun breaker will also give stability as long as you use it to break stun. Personally I use it to get 30 adrenaline during the start of a battle to get quickly into berserk mode in PvE.

Lol at your last paragraph

On a side note, Powerful Synergy is EXTREMELY WEAK for a grandmaster tier trait lol

Kayberz.5346:

I think the problem is they designed the warrior to be extremely basic and to the point, it worked out early on in the game because they made up for lack of special tricks by being very well rounded and having a good mix of offense and defense
But now that the game has changed since launch especially with elite specs it seems like they put all kind of cool bells and whistles on all of the classes that fit thematically with thier magic/abilities but because the design of the warrior is essentialy just a normal guy who is really strong, they kind of ended up with an extremely limited template to create new abilities for and they always end up getting really bare bones versions of abilities other classes get because they have no magic to justify any added conditions and effects

Well said, they never bothered with it again.
Actually same happened with the whole warriors – We got nerfs so that we were on par with other classes and then Anet went ahead and buffed the other classes so much that warriors feels underpowered once again.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Peacekid.1463:

umm suggestion? how bout they put some sustain on a warrior when it turns berserker…like immune dmg for 5 sec

Or like,

• Block all attacks ON YOUR FACE for 5 seconds when entering berserker mode. At the end of 5 seconds your face EXPLODES, destroying everything in a 600 radius cone in front of you. Berserker heals to full.

Ohhhh yeah, kitten SIC ;D

One can only dream, right?

But seriously entering Berserk state should HEAL the warrior for a start.

How the F are eles underpowered? Cele d/d ele will wreck most elite spec when played properly – They got both damage and survivality. Tempest may not be strong but the core class is still way better than some elite specs like Berserker.

Towren.1745:

A Guardians knock back can be blinded/blocked against as well.

I know but my point still stands: AoE vs 1 target and half the cast time

Let’s just keep aside rest of issues that warriors are facing atm and take a look at the downed skills

No. 1 skill : Most classes inflict a condition in addition to regular damage. Mes applies confusion, eles applies vulnerability, thieves applies bleeding (or cripple? forgot), Revenant – This thing applies FREAKING SLOW, necro steals life, etc.

No. 2 skill : A single target knockdown with 1 sec cast time while guardians have AoE knockback with half cast time. Eles, thieves, mesmers can teleport/move to dodge a stomp (guaranteed) whereas if the warrior is blinded the #2 skill miss or if blocked.

Want to hear from some non-warriors how balanced is this…

Peacekid.1463:

WHY in the world they include BERSERKERS? this class in pvp is useless,horrible,unbelivable terrible…no sustain..outclassed in any way by other class…common from the start devs knew about this but yet THEY STILL DIDNT DO ANYTHING

Because some players (who mains other classes)8 don’t want to get warriors buffed and hence always talks up warrior despite knowing they are utter trash atm.

Warriors are very bad atm in PvP/WvW (borderline unplayable and undesirable). They are considered “free bags” for every class (except maybe thieves) meaning they will get roasted in 1v1 situations assuming the skill level are comparable.

In PvE, you won’t go wrong with any class. So feel free to roll a warrior BUT I’d recommend guardian because of their staff skill #1 which can tag upto 5 mobs for loots.

P.S. Don’t listen to trolls saying warriors are ok (They are not). They are obviously other classes mains fearing that Anet might buff us

I’d really love the irony when one of the useless elite spec is buffed to god mode status and DH nerfed to dirt and when those DH players will complain, they would get replies along the lines of “L2P” like they are doing now failing to see the obvious.

Hotjoins are mainly for practice and dueling. The real PvP matches are unranked.

Berserker above tempest? What?
I’d put reaper and scrapper in top 3 above Chrono actually. Good Scrappers and reapers are incredibly hard (borderline impossible) to beat.
Warrior/Berserker needs a rework and thief to an extent also needs some love.

Warrior’s state is no better than a thief’s. Gunflame is the only skill which is worth the money and the rest of the whole class (not just the spec) is becoming useless by each passing day. Warriors need to stay in melee range and be not blinded so that they are effective, but nowadays with blind spams, evade spams, pirate ship meta they are almost irrelevant. IMO play a couple of unranked matches in PvP as a warrior/berserker and you’ll understand what I am saying.

Well TBH most PU mesmers used to run Condi builds and could easily kill another class 1v1 before the nerfs.

They are so abundant in Orr and so useless that it should be renamed to pile of kitten essence. If you farm CS for an hour on your staff guardian you can easily earn upto 8-10 an hour from the mob drops until you hit DR.

Tom Gore.4035:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Tom Gore.4035:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

In PvE, NOTHING is bad. Even if you run naked with an exotic weapon you’ll do fine in open world PvE as long as you know when to dodge. The complaints against Berserker/Warrior is for PvP/WvW where they are underpowered.

I want to see you go do that in HoT solo. Especially in Dragon’s Stand. Good luck and remember to video it.

Did I say solo? The point was that you can hide behind a blob and spam 1 away to your victory with a rifle/longbow. All the metas can be done this way including DS. There’s a reason why I mentioned open world and not dungeons/fractals or solo contents like LS.

You can do that in WvW too. In PvP I guess you can’t because you cannot go into battle without an amulet AFAIK.

There’s a difference. A player can make a huge difference if he stays alive and helps the team especially in even numbered fights and when you run naked you are almost useless in the fight and being a rallybot. Compared to PvE, all players care is the rewards in the end and the mobs can’t really rally off your dead body so it doesn’t make any difference really.

I hope you weren’t serious with the comparison to WvW with PvE about running naked.

In PvP, even if there was an option to not wear amulet it will turn into basically a 4v5 match and again a rallybot for the opposition.

You should practise on your sarcasm skills

isux.8940:

Dont listen to them. Warrior is not bad. If you are good, you can 1v3 in PVP easy even with warrior.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Warriors are in bad spot at the moment in PvP/WvW. If you want to face impossible challenge play a warrior. In PvE, any class is great and it doesn’t matter really BUT while farming stuffs (like Cursed Shore) guardians are WAAAAAAAY better than a warrior because of their staff skill #1.

SlayerSixx.5763:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

SlayerSixx.5763:

Kosard.9720:

does 8,000 damage for getting hit by one ability seem fair? i rest my case.

100b, rapid fire, melee mind wrack, back stab, unload, grave digger are among only a few skills that can hit that much, if not more.

My warrior, with your average zerk build, can hit 17k on his 100b (burn stun breaks and hit 50% HP and its insta GG). My thief can land 10-12k unloads. BP > HS+steal with procs is over 10k as well. My guard can whirl for almost 9k (a lot more of I throw in SoW).

You can argue everything else like how it covers the entire point, how they burn your dodges using LB2 and then daze you with traps so you can’t use your utilities and get eaten up all while fighting from 1200 range or how they have an kitten of CC, but let’s not cry about damage here like they’re the only ones that can burst.

What? 100b takes a huge effort to set up the attack properly and most of the times it doesn’t land all 8 strikes on the intended foe. 100b channel is actually 3.5 second long and with 8 separate strikes while traps’ are instant. How on earth did you compare the two?

I was pointing out that damage shouldn’t be taken into consideration as a serious argument. Every one of my mentioned abilities will destroy you and should be nerfed if damage is as big a deal as people make it out to be.

Also, the logic behind 100b+bulls rush (or your choice of stun) and the DH spamming true shots to burn dodges, LB5 and maw to burn stun breakers and then test of faith+heavy light/virtue chain and procession of blades to burst down is the same.

Traps activate instantly, but don’t deal the damage instantly :P. 100b is instant, but doesn’t activate instantly.

Burn dodge > burn stun breaks > pop burst.

alain.1659:

SlayerSixx.5763:

Kosard.9720:

does 8,000 damage for getting hit by one ability seem fair? i rest my case.

100b, rapid fire, melee mind wrack, back stab, unload, grave digger are among only a few skills that can hit that much, if not more.

My warrior, with your average zerk build, can hit 17k on his 100b (burn stun breaks and hit 50% HP and its insta GG). My thief can land 10-12k unloads. BP > HS+steal with procs is over 10k as well. My guard can whirl for almost 9k (a lot more of I throw in SoW).

You can argue everything else like how it covers the entire point, how they burn your dodges using LB2 and then daze you with traps so you can’t use your utilities and get eaten up all while fighting from 1200 range or how they have an kitten of CC, but let’s not cry about damage here like they’re the only ones that can burst.

We had a test four days before and 100b can hit 8.2 k average (if your opponent stays still/ without all the signets and elite). But ranger’s longbow can only deal an average of 6.2 k dmg. Only with all utility skills and elite it can go up to 8.3 k, and this is only if your opponent forgets how to dodge during that bloody channel. And if your opponent has no reflection, which is impossible because every kitten profession in this game has reflection. Then you are forced to wait for your skills CD.

Please do not give information that is based on your old experience (before the latest patch). As a micro-management lover we always test builds and their effectivity. Best way to learn is to test it with at least three people.

By the way ranger’ (core rangers) longbow build sucks now.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR8ZjMdQXIWGCmdAnIGICqrM+glX/ipfKsAICGAA-TZBBABScQAA4CAU0+DkXGAinAAA

Before 50%:

Savage leap>tremor>final thrust>swap to gs>adrenaline burst (procs heightened focus and signet mastery)>bulls rush>100b.

You don’t need to activate any of your signets since the signet mastery trait will proc to give you the last bit of precision you need to hit 100% crit rate. Honestly, this build could be tweaked for aloooooot more sustain, but this is what I use when I occasionally play warrior. Guaranteed kill if you’ve burned your targets stun breaks spamming final thrust, sword flurry, and tremor.

All I was saying is that 100b is much more difficult to set up than a trap burst. As a warrior, a class whose CC skills are so telegraphed (hammer CCs, mace F1) or bugged (Bull’s charge misses 50% of the time) it is much easier to dodge than a guardian teleporting to you (via JI) and laying all traps instantly to lock you into CCs (Dragon Maw FTW) and bursting you down. I didn’t even take into account all the blind/block spams that other classes have (guardians being the most notorious one) which can completely neutralize the 100b set up.

Doon.2364:

I know Berserker died at birth.

Lol, this cracked me up

Adrenaline nerf/Cleansing ire nerf made the warriors half life, the rampage buff gave a little bit of life to it for a month before getting nerfed and now with the release of some OP elite spec, warriors have been resting in the peace in their graves hoping someday Anet will have mercy on their poor souls.

If you roam around the new dead BL, you can experience it yourself how big the map really is and the distance between the structures. You don’t really need to post “evidences” in the form of videos to prove an opinion. The bottom line is that the majority of the posters in the WvW section prefers the old BL to the new ones (just by reading through the posts) and it isn’t that hard to understand why, whether that be the players’ inability to adapt, map being too large, or too much PvE or whatever the reason might be.

There’s a difference between a ranger’s and a DH’s traps though – Ranger traps are all heavy condi based which deals huge dmg overtime while DH traps are power based but then again once triggered the traps shouldn’t deal dmg overtime, so that may need to be toned down a bit.

Before I am accused, I don’t play guardian/DH and am jealous that they got a much better spec than what we got (warrs)

Tom Gore.4035:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

In PvE, NOTHING is bad. Even if you run naked with an exotic weapon you’ll do fine in open world PvE as long as you know when to dodge. The complaints against Berserker/Warrior is for PvP/WvW where they are underpowered.

I want to see you go do that in HoT solo. Especially in Dragon’s Stand. Good luck and remember to video it.

Did I say solo? The point was that you can hide behind a blob and spam 1 away to your victory with a rifle/longbow. All the metas can be done this way including DS. There’s a reason why I mentioned open world and not dungeons/fractals or solo contents like LS.

That shouldn’t happen. Even if the opponents are n00bs, a party with warrior is supposed to lose at all costs. Please nerf warriors immediately, Ty.

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Kosard.9720:

does 8,000 damage for getting hit by one ability seem fair? i rest my case.

100b, rapid fire, melee mind wrack, back stab, unload, grave digger are among only a few skills that can hit that much, if not more.

My warrior, with your average zerk build, can hit 17k on his 100b (burn stun breaks and hit 50% HP and its insta GG). My thief can land 10-12k unloads. BP > HS+steal with procs is over 10k as well. My guard can whirl for almost 9k (a lot more of I throw in SoW).

You can argue everything else like how it covers the entire point, how they burn your dodges using LB2 and then daze you with traps so you can’t use your utilities and get eaten up all while fighting from 1200 range or how they have an kitten of CC, but let’s not cry about damage here like they’re the only ones that can burst.

What? 100b takes a huge effort to set up the attack properly and most of the times it doesn’t land all 8 strikes on the intended foe. 100b channel is actually 3.5 second long and with 8 separate strikes while traps’ are instant. How on earth did you compare the two?

I have said this before, buff the other healing skills (rage one included). Mending is utter trash along with the new rage one. HS is fine imo.

Also give warriors access to superspeed and protection with a healthy uptime since they need to stay in melee range to effective.