Guild Wars 2

I want to make a short bow mainhand thief build mostly for pve but on occasion for wvw too. One of the bigger reasons is because I’m making The Dreamer but I also like how short bow works on thieves. A build I’ve been using in pvp was d/p, sb and it’s not a bad build. Since I’m still new to the thief (not even lvl 30 yet and will probably remake my toon into a human) I would probably want some survivability but still do good damage. I’m not one to stick to the background though so my secondary set would have to be melee if possible. I guess I would want a build that would synergize really well with sb where I would use it quite frequently in pve/wvw.

Exxcalibur.6203:

I had to laugh.

You clearly have no idea what these terms mean.

I am afraid I didn’t make Paternalism up – is what it is.

And a ‘liberal’ ideology? O lordy…

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality. The tolerance and acceptance of diversity you advocate is ‘liberal’.

Perhaps you are on a journey of discovery to finding you actually vote ‘left’. If so, Congratulations.

:)

Being condescending like this only hinders your argument. Why should people listen to you when you just insult them or others?

My hope is that they keep this farm untouched. One big thing that keeps people interested in something is diversity. How many people left after they nerfed plinx? How many more left when they nerfed pent/shelt? I am hoping Anet learned from their mistakes and don’t do anything to this champ farm or others because after awhile of doing the same thing over and over again people tend to loose interest. If you get tired of leveling another character by pretty much soloing map after map this champ farm and others is a way to be with a group of people to level with and talk to rather than play by your lonesome, because even in a guild not always will there be anyone wanting to level up with you. It is possible that this is one reason why living story occurs every 2 weeks, to bring more into the game. To bring more diversity. To bring people together. The nightmare tower helped do that, the queens birthday festivities helped do that. We don’t need the champ farming in Queensdale to be wiped away. It’s another way to help level characters, to help get away from soloing a map waiting till you’re high enough to go level in a dungeon, if a group will have you as a lowbie. Sadly dungeons have become more of a 70+ only kinda thing. I rarely ever see anyone below that allowed into a group unless it’s your guild and even then it’s usually they ask if they can bring in their lowbie for the last boss rather than from start to finish but it is another way to level a character. Of course it is always fun for a group of level 35s to raid AC or kitten hit up CM, etc but it’s rare these days unlike the first few months of GW2s arrival.

People farm this champ train for something different than what they are doing. People stop farming this champ train to move on to something different than what they are doing. The big thing here is that they have the option to do it or not and should not have it taken away from them simply because it is something else they can do. Just as the next living story that comes up is something different they can do and the next one and the one after that. This helps keep people interested and I hope the devs don’t oblige you of your request so that we can keep the diversity that keeps people interested in the game. Of course it won’t surprise me when it does finally end. They could always beef it up a bit by allowing these champs to spawn mobs of their own to help it out like the Queen Bee does or Kholer in AC. If they do hopefully they won’t over do it like they did in pent/shelt. Either way I believe it is something that should be kept around.

A guildie of mine got “The Legend” off the JP in maelstrom so I’ve been doing that one everyday. Plus it’s a fun quick one. Govoran wp upper left.

Who could ever hate my lovable norn?

Khisanth.2948:

Kilandros.2098:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

what level? only above 40 (I think? maybe 30) drops the new boxes where you get to pick a skin. The lower levels still use the old method as far as i’m aware.

Hah, oh man…

1) Anet FINALLY admitted that the boxes didn’t make it/are currently unavailable in game. So there goes that.

2) When Anet advertised those mythical boxes, they also said that all Fractal skins would operate as every other skins—i.e., no need for transmutation stones. Clearly that didn’t make it in either.

I’m honestly mystified why they would advertise features they weren’t implementing.

Where did they advertise this(the boxes)? The only place I am aware of where this was mentioned is buried somewhere in the Fractured subforum. That hardly counts as advertising.

The boxes were said to be dropped at a higher level is what the dev said. Since he was talking about 10-20 in his last post it’s possible that the boxes start dropping at lvl 30+ but then again he never indicated at what level these boxes would drop at so I am only guestimating.

His Posts can be found in this thread here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/fractured/Skin-acquirement-needs-to-stay-hard/first

Got the torch in a lvl 30 frac. today. It was a skin and you can make em pvp which I did. Sadly there’s no slot in pvp locker for this.

Hebee.8460:

I say its worth buying whole armor sets for 1 item. I have used 1 item, & the rest are going to be used on alternate stat gear or alternate characters. Just depends on how you make it look.

I certainly am glad I bought 2 sets.
Magitech Chest/Boots & Aetherblade Shoulders Below

Nice look.

Rouven.7409:

Can you show what the vigil chest looks like? Not in game right now: [&AgHPFAAA]

DownPour.5903:

Which items are you using on the 5th pic?

Really great looks btw

5th from the top is: krytan coat, viper pants, magitech shoes (all gemstore).

That is something you have to decide for yourself. I am just showing that there are decent alternative looks to t3 human that someone had argued about being none.

viper set gemstore

Someone had spoke how there was not any “tasteful” skimpy female armor that wasn’t t3 so here are some alternatives that I had made and considered for my own thief and ranger, though I won’t show the armor set I am going to use since it uses said t3 armor top that the person did not like. They had suggested that Anet make another set less provocative and to be honest it wouldn’t surprise me if Anet did at some point make another set of cultural armor to strive for. Also, even though said person doesn’t seem to like the trenchcoat look the magitech one can look quite elegant and even skimpy of sorts if put together right, the bottom pick (only changes I made to it were no shoulder and aetherblade gloves (which I would dye limonite too)).

Dyes used on various sets were: Blacklight, limonite, blood dye, illumination, and midnight ice.

hooma.9642:

with gold as reward at 10.12 we will get pve-players, so this will be needed to add in at 10.12 too.

• reportfunction for afk
• 4vs5 check or other methode to prevent uneven matches
• bann of skyhammer farmer, cause the high amount of glory converted to skillpoints converted to tradable items will inflict the trading post
• gold per ingamemail for previous wins in tourney. dont put it into the chests. some has bunkered them, some has open them. to be fair use the already existing statistic value u have and calculate a amount for every player to be on a more equal ground like pve player
• with higher amount of players esp new pve players we need a significant higher balancing frequency at “shaving” skills and traits.. several months is a no-go. do it bi-weekly. all pvp-player need to stop for pve-update so its time to shave things

if u dont do the points above u just create a way to abuse the system and reward not the pvp-players but the farmer and exploiter.

First 2 i agree with, the rest no. Maybe they can ban people that abused skyhammer but an easy fix to the whole glory to skill conversion to tradable items can be fixed by making those skills and tradeable items account bound instead.

No to getting gold for previous wins this would cause some gold inflation that we don’t need more of.

No to bi-weekly skill/trait fixes there this game is not exclusively PvP there are two other aspects of the game that matter and there are more people that play those than PvP so dedicating a whole team to continually do this on a bi-weekly basis is absurd.

I would be curious to know if we can, in the end transfer gear between PvE to PvP:

1. Could we also transfer the beginner masks and shoulders that some classes have when first starting out such as the guardian helmet and shoulders, necros, mesmers, and eles masks, etc.

2. Will the masquerade set that we can get in either PvP and PvE be transferable also (as these two are different)?

3. Does this also mean that people can then move their legendary weapons to PvP and back again when they want?

4. Do you think that there will be some kind of gem fee to be able to make these transfers occur?

I know that with the introduction of being able to move armor/weapon skins between PvP and PvE/WvW making PvPers less distinct in their ranks. One thing that I would like to see is maybe an exclusive rank (later ladder) armor set per tier that can only be acquired through PvP to allow people to show off their own level and dedication not only among PvPers but also those that just PvE/WvW (since, I would assume, these would also be transferable to PvE). I believe that this also would be an incentive to get old and new players to try PvP in order to get these exclusive PvP armor/weapon skins to use in both PvP and PvE/WvW and also hopefully enjoy PvPing too.

so near 50$ for Mr. Sparkles that’s gonna get those people that bought that mini for 700$ off ebay a bit angry I bet. Ah well it’s just an incentive for reaching that mark. I see a bunch of em running about in the near future and I (sadly) will probably be one of em. I wonder…. Does buying gems with gold count?

The only problem is that it would seem to be a short term thing for getting these tomes with gold and glory since they also plan to retire glory once ladders have been implemented.

I guess if this happens there is the possibility of us just buying these tomes in pvp with just gold which would just be buying our way to 80….

Soon we will be able to craft them. I believe that they will be highly expensive to craft if even to just keep costs of the current ones high. I also believe that they will be account bound once you have crafted it in order to keep them from flooding the market. I can only speculate that it will take a long time to get all of what you need to make it so why then wouldn’t you want to use the precursor you made? Then again if you have to choose between using your exotic precursor to that of your ascended weapon it’s not that hard of a choice to make. Precursors are exorbitantly expensive and unless you luck out on one they take a lot of time and gold to get. Half the cost of the legendary you want to make is going towards the precursor itself also. So why shouldn’t they be ascended weapons. They cost more to make than ascended and are rarer to get than ascended so making them ascended seems a logical choice. Besides, wouldn’t part of making your legendary be in being able to use your precursor on the road to attaining your it? Wouldn’t you rather use your precursor to that of your ascended weapon? Admittedly ascended weapons have a great look but there’s a great amount of enjoyment in using my precursor over an ascended.

I would like an original set as well but the problem then would be that they would have to do the same for the medium and heavy armor sets too. That wouldn’t be such a bad thing I don’t really care for either of those two (though, I am partial to the medium hat).

I’d like to see some decent female heavy full armored sets like these 2. Well the 2nd armor set isn’t completely full armored but it looks good.

I liked what they did with this armor. Sadly I didn’t get it in time before it was removed. What I have been wondering about, though, is what would make a good replacement for this light armored skin? I’ve only thought of 2 options that I think would make a decent replacement.

1. The masquerade set
2. The winged set

But when I think about it these 2 sets look nice on female characters but not so much male ones.

Is there any decent light armor set that you think could replace the original?

It seems now that whenever I’m in a map the wrong music is playing at the wrong time. I load in LA and battle music is playing this happens a lot and not just in LA but in most zones some type of battle music is playing. I’m in a battle or pvp and I hear the character selection music playing or one of the more relaxing songs are playing. Several people of spoken to have had the same problem.

Well, there goes the look I was going to make…. How do I get back my 20$ worth of gems?

Thanks for the info it’ll be a great help I’ll be watching that vid in a bit.

@ stx what were the jewels/runes/sigils that would be used and wep setup?

Mind, I’ve never really played necro much am going to be leveling one while also pvping to get a better understanding and enjoyment of the class. Also are there any good PvP/WvW pwr build videos out there that would be good to watch using axes, daggers, wh, focus?

Umut.5471:

Looks bad with light armor like all other reward skins…

Psht, speak for yourself.

Here’s my look for my future necro, though i still need to put the limonite dye on her gloves.

New to necromacer and am looking for a PvP power build that focuses more on mid to close range combat using weapons like the axe, dagger, warhorn, and/or focus (can also use scepter if needed). Eventually I’ll probably start using staff but not for the time being. One thing to note is that I’m not looking to be a glass cannon nor really use minions. I don’t mind using conditions along with pwr dmg also. Might be a lot to ask but any help would be great.

foofad.5162:

Also, nothing is keeping us from operating the Longbow at less than 1200 range. Not only that, it may end up being changed to only have 1000 range, like Engineer rifles or Warrior longbows. Just because it’s a longbow doesn’t mean it has to be a 1200 range weapon, necessarily.

I’d still prefer Longbow over Shortbow for aesthetic reasons though.

The same could be said with short bow. Nothing prevents them from making it a 1200 range or 1000 range. On rangers it used to be a 1200 range weapon till they nerfed it to 900 range. So there is no reason not to use it over longbow either.

It bugs me that these skins we get in the living story achievements are not part of the achievement skins we get at through accumulated achievement points. I do not see why we should have to be conflicted with the choice of whether to use them in the pve setting or pvp or even that we have to choose to use them on one toon and would need to buy transmutation stones to be able to switch it to another toon if we prefer it on that one. Why shouldn’t these be part of the achievement skins we can use repeatedly in the unlocked rewards section. We did unlock these skins. We did earn them through our efforts. So we should be able to have them in the unlocked rewards section? We shouldn’t have to be conflicted to choose weather to use them in PvP or PvE/WvW. We’ve earned these skins. We should have the right to use them on multiple characters and in both PvP and PvE/WvW.

This is a look I want for my necro and I would love to be able to use this in both PvP and PvE/WvW. But I can’t. And that annoys me.

foofad.5162:

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Let me just ride up in my massive flaming full plate armor, and shoot at them with my tiny, ineffectual pea-shooter. No, give me a man’s bow – shortbows are for thieves.

Really? You need a longbow to prove your toon’s a man?

My wanting to use a short bow has a bit more merit at least. Most (not all) our buffs and skills tend to be in a 600 or less range what’s the point in using a 1000-1200 range weapon when the buffs you use won’t reach your teammates? I know that our scepter is a 1200 range wep (except #3 (900)) but it’s not that grand of a weapon in wvw and pvp, though I heard that they may buff the speed by 30%. So using something more mid-range (600-900 range) seems more optimal, in my opinion, for our class.

What’s with people always wanting longbow? Besides warriors already use the longbow why do you want to be more like them? We’ve always been more of a close range class so how bout a short bow with a 600-900 range? Let it shoot energy that just takes a bit longer to charge but fires off like a normal arrow shot.

Really? Nothing? Ouch….

My first class was a Mesmer and enjoy playing the class. Next came my guardian which I’ve enjoyed along with ele and war. Lately I’ve mostly been sticking to the heavy classes but I feel the need for a change and want to experience playing a ranger.

I’ve tried looking for a guide to level one up efficiently. Now this does not mean crafting one to 80 or even using an instant level 20 scroll, these won’t help me to learn the class much. So since I have not found a guide it would be nice to get a few tips on leveling and some basic questions.

1. What is a good weapon set to use? When I reach 7 I plan to have a x/warhorn on me to speed things along but what would you recommend as a good main weapon to start with? I do plan on learning all the weapons along the way but I know there are usually some weapons that are far more effective leveling with than others can be.

2. When I reach level 11 which trait/s should I start investing into and should these be changed down the road, what level/s if so?

3. Which runes and sigils should I invest in and should these be changed later down the road, what level/s if so?

4. What pet/s are good to use? What weapons compliment certain pets?

5. I believe I’d like to run gs/sb in the end. Since my toon isn’t an asura that’ll be one less daze I would get in the technobabble build I’ve seen. What other good guides are out there? I’ve seen vid of a ranger using gs, s/wh that looked promising also, is this still viable? I plan on sticking with one ranged one melee in pve and most likely wvw.

Well, these are the questions I have so far. If there’s something vital I am missing those tips would be appreciated (accept if the “tip” is, don’t play ranger or similar such “tips”).

6. What stats should I invest in while leveling? Should these be changed down the road if I should use a different set of weapons to level with as well?

Thanks a bunch, in advance, for your help in guiding me in this new venture.

DeathMetal.8264:

rhapsody, but mine is not a Legendary. Will the splitter result in an account-bound item?

It does not have to be a legendary to use a Trans splitter. Though once you transfer it to the other character and use the splitter it will make said item you wanted soulbound to the new character.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Transmutation_Splitter

KyreneZA.8617:

Why?

No seriously. Why if the SB is one of the top 3 ranger weapons does it need more love at this stage?

Now, if you mean we need a new SB legendary, I can agree. Any self-respecting ranger that flounces around with a pony-shooting set of butterfly wings should re-roll mesmer.

But then you wouldn’t be able to use said short bow!

Too bad guardians don’t use short bow I would so get it.

Well, for the most part this’ll help the PvP build I’ve been working on. I did pretty good damage and now I’ll do even more. Hopefully I’ll be able to post the build for it soon.

Didn’t know GW1 did that. Hm.

Like the skills we can change in our skill bar, how about skills we can change in our weapons. 1 hand weapons can change slots 2 and 3 (main hand) or 4 and 5 (off-hand) and 2 handed weapons can change skills 2-5. I think such a thing would help diversify how classes can be made making other types of builds more viable helping reduce cookie cutter builds (meta builds) and allow people to enjoy classes a lot more. Not only that but in PvP and WvW it will be a lot harder for people to predict what skill/s you are going to use based on the weapon/s you are using making matches much more challenging. This also means that players can use 2 of the same weapon. I have seen thief builds that center around one weapon set with different sigils and having interchangeable weapons skills would allow them more reason to stick to such builds but not only for them but all classes. Guardians could use 2 great swords. Warriors could use 2 longbows. Maybe this would even allow eles to diversify to 2 weapon sets. The potential for this could be a great way to bring people’s attention to classes they may not have even considered playing or breathe life back into a class they got tired of playing.

Krafty.9758:

PlagueParade.7942:

Krafty.9758:

Show me one part where i said “1v1 = fair”…. I simply claimed ‘fair’. Fair = 5v5 NOT 1v5, not 3v5 etc.

So yes, you stay in that “reality” as long as you want lol

Will do while you cower up top. How’d you put it? “lol”

/yawn, come on surely you can do better than that? lol

Still waiting for you to point out where I said 1v1 was fair.

I’ll leave the cowering to you…. seeing as you are doing an awesome job at that.

And I simply stated that even in 5v5 you will most likely not be in a 1v1 situation. Being in a “FAIR” match as you put it will not necessarily make you a better player it could simply be that you are the weakest link of the group being carried by the other 4. The only thing that your supposed “FAIR” match up will be is a higher probability in a better ranking in the leaderboards, which is pretty much a joke. And you will more likely never be in a “FAIR” match up considering the fact that the whole match up system is broken, being stacked from highest to lowest found here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Solo-Arena-Que-Experience/first#post3132699

so your supposed FAIR match up is moot to begin with. I’ve already got the answer I wanted here which was if you are upset about being in a group of four versus one of five and decide to sit it out; well, like the dev suggested, I’ll simply report you for botting. Have a nice day.

Krafty.9758:

Show me one part where i said “1v1 = fair”…. I simply claimed ‘fair’. Fair = 5v5 NOT 1v5, not 3v5 etc.

So yes, you stay in that “reality” as long as you want lol

Will do while you cower up top. How’d you put it? “lol”

Krafty.9758:

PlagueParade.7942:

Krafty.9758:

Depends…. how big is said finger? lol

But no really, you get better by being in FAIR matches (ie on the same level to eliminate bias from the analysis). This allows for a scenario where at the end of the match you can accurately reflect and analyze your performance. No reasonable analysis can be taken from a 4v5 other than “oh that team was just noobish”.

Show me a match where 4 noobs beat 5 high rated/ranked players… it just won’t ever happen unless the 5 players have gone afk and go down to the pub for a few beers. This may not reflect all 4v5’s or 3v5’s, but the point is people know that as soon as the numbers are not even then its downhill from there. Why not afk in that scenario?

And I’ve told you I’ve won several matches where it was 4v5 and it wasn’t just because the other team was “bad” they were close calls all. Numbers don’t always win it a good strategy will win out if done right. Your analysis doesn’t help you when you are in the thick of it. Your knowledge and experience does. Fighting 1v2 or 1v3 you learn who to kill first before trying the next one and you won’t get that experience sitting up top being bored anyhow. You fight you learn more about your class and others. You don’t learn much staring at the kills you got or points you scored. You learn more when you lose and what you did wrong than when you win and what you did right.

And I’ve told you that you get better by being in FAIR matches. And yes analysis DOES help during a game…. as long as you have a pvp brain about you.

You get better for striving for more and not necessarily by striving for “FAIR.” PvP isn’t a 1v1 match you will tend to fight 1v2 often. That is not FAIR but it happens a lot. So keep hoping for FAIR I’ll live with REALITY, which usually is taking out one with a chunk of your life gone and several skills in cd while another pops in to try and finish what the other one couldn’t.

Krafty.9758:

Depends…. how big is said finger? lol

But no really, you get better by being in FAIR matches (ie on the same level to eliminate bias from the analysis). This allows for a scenario where at the end of the match you can accurately reflect and analyze your performance. No reasonable analysis can be taken from a 4v5 other than “oh that team was just noobish”.

Show me a match where 4 noobs beat 5 high rated/ranked players… it just won’t ever happen unless the 5 players have gone afk and go down to the pub for a few beers. This may not reflect all 4v5’s or 3v5’s, but the point is people know that as soon as the numbers are not even then its downhill from there. Why not afk in that scenario?

And I’ve told you I’ve won several matches where it was 4v5 and it wasn’t just because the other team was “bad” they were close calls all. Numbers don’t always win it a good strategy will win out if done right. Your analysis doesn’t help you when you are in the thick of it. Your knowledge and experience does. Fighting 1v2 or 1v3 you learn who to kill first before trying the next one and you won’t get that experience sitting up top being bored anyhow. You fight you learn more about your class and others. You don’t learn much staring at the kills you got or points you scored. You learn more when you lose and what you did wrong than when you win and what you did right.

Krafty.9758:

3132kittenaos Archangel.5071:

PlagueParade.7942:

Wintel.4873:

PlagueParade.7942:

Is there a way to report people that intentionally do not play because their team is either losing or there’s an afker\ D/Cer (or other various reasons) in the team? Cause on occasion we have this and it gets rather annoying that they stop b/c they’re going to lose. I mean at the least they could fight for the extra glory points you can accumulate while fighting if anything else.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Until we get a report option for being AFK, I suggest just report them for botting.

Evan Lesh, are you serious??? I cannot believe this.
So ANet will take action against someone who chooses to AFK due to being on the losing end of a 4v5 (or 3v5) scenario? It’s a waste of time if they play, there is NO OPTION TO RESIGN/LEAVE and the outcome of the match has already been DECIDED. In a 5v5 I always try my absolute best to win, but in a 4v5 I have zero motivation to leave the starting area.

To someone who has faced countless 4v5’s and is completely sick of it, it’s a very tall order to tell them to play that round just for a tiny bit of glory. You know, putting aside the fact how difficult it is to score any points because whenever they try to kill someone (or cap a point), multiple enemies show up and they’re quickly outnumbered.

After facing endless 4v5 scenarios it’s incredibly infuriating at this point that ArenaNet still hasn’t done anything about it…and if you really accept “reports” of people who AFK just because the battle was already lost to begin with, then frankly I am left speechless. Treating them on the same level as botters…unbelievable.

That’s about as polite as I can get in my response to both you and PlagueParade.

Simply unbelievable.

What’s “simply unbelievable” is that you won’t even try. I’ve been in the same boat as you plenty of times but, hey, I’m no quitter and I’ve even won a couple times in a 4v5. It’s called learning tactics. Coordinate with your teammates. Stick in groups of 2 or zerg it. Have a 3 man group cap areas to draw people in and the 4th cap another area or vice versa. I’ll play to gain even a small amount of glory rather than nothing at all. At the very least I can try and gain some experience with multiple people attacking me and I occasionally take one down before being taken out myself. In almost every case, yea the four man group will lose but like I said, I’ve won a handful of times too. How do you think you’re going to get better sitting up there or staying dead on the ground? You think you don’t get killed by multiple people in a 5v5 while your by your lonesome capping an area or taking an orb?

What I do not need are defeatist people like you who whine about it and decide to quit making it worse for the rest of us who TRY to win even if the chances are small. So if someone in my group acts like you I’ll report you as a bot as the dev suggested. I’m here to play pvp not sit on the sidelines bemoaning my bad situation.

+1 To this. Its great to hear that not everyone just bends over and spreads their cheeks to accept the ramming. If I know I’m gonna lose either way, I go down effin’ fighting; not crying like a wet girl.

Depends…. 4v5 against bads? sure why not stay and have a go. But decent/high rank players? LOL yea buddy you keep reaching for that dream rainbow.

Baby Back Kitten lol.

Yea I will keep “reaching” for it. How else will you get better. And it’s still better than sitting there picking your nose.

hooma.9642:

u hasnt noticed the last change? u did not get more glory if u loose 0-500 or 498-500. u will always only get the looseramount. + being best in something. but theyre is no category for being the most stomped person in a game.

You are right I hadn’t noticed this change till after that posting. This does not change the fact that you can still win a 4v5 it is just rare and needs the team to cooperate and communicate with one another more and having one less person not helping the team does not make the situation better. Why do you play PvP? It’s not like you win every match? It’s because you get to fight against other players not sit on the sidelines feeling sorry for yourself. If you’re in a 4v5 zerg it at the least. You may as well go down fighting than moping about up top while the rest of your teammates go out swinging. At least you’ll have their respect. You are in PvP to fight so fight. It’s not like 4v5 matches happen once in a blue moon it happens a lot, more than I or most care for.

But you are right, you won’t get much out of it which is something that the Devs should be working on; to give an incentive for a 4v5 match to be worth fighting. (Edit): Maybe we should get extra glory/rank points if we at least reach 250-300 pts being so handicapped.

Sudden.8729:

Sorry if it sounds troll, not trying to be. Maybe discussion for a different thread, but perhaps hot join servers that have rank requirements to enter would be a better way to grow the hot join community. Example servers that require being 1-15, 16-29, 30-40, 40+ . Each server offering an enhanced glory/rank reward as you tier up and grow as a player. This would probably keep less afker’s and sand baggers out of upper tier, more competitive hot joins and actually make earning rank feel a little more rewarding because you know that their is a better chance that as you rank the games will get better.

I like this idea but think it would be better with a larger pool per tier. For one thing only playing those that are in the same 10 or so levels as you are won’t necessarily make you a better player since you’ll only be playing those of your same level. You need a measuring tool of sorts (higher leveled players) to see where exactly you are at and be able to improve. Another reason is the higher level you get the fewer people there are to pvp with/against, which, would make it longer to get into a match.

1-19, 20-39, 40-59, 45/50-80 (The overlap here would depend on your rank the higher rank you are the more likely you will be playing against the higher ups. This also allows those of higher ranking a larger pool to work with.)

Well the leaderboards seem character based so one way to stay up in the ranks is make a toon you can practice with (learning a new build, in a 4v5 situation, etc.) and use your main for when you feel up to scratch. I have a thief who I’ve played less than 10 games on and she’s higher ranked than my main who has been in quite a few more.

This does sound like a neat idea OP. Would be great to fight NPCs in the current meta. Though this does seem like a lot of work. There’s only so much an NPC is programmed to do and I can only see it just going on a set rotation of skills that real players may not follow at all. Best you can hope for would be to better recognize what skill they are using. But even that can be helpful.

Wintel.4873:

PlagueParade.7942:

Is there a way to report people that intentionally do not play because their team is either losing or there’s an afker\ D/Cer (or other various reasons) in the team? Cause on occasion we have this and it gets rather annoying that they stop b/c they’re going to lose. I mean at the least they could fight for the extra glory points you can accumulate while fighting if anything else.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Until we get a report option for being AFK, I suggest just report them for botting.

Evan Lesh, are you serious??? I cannot believe this.
So ANet will take action against someone who chooses to AFK due to being on the losing end of a 4v5 (or 3v5) scenario? It’s a waste of time if they play, there is NO OPTION TO RESIGN/LEAVE and the outcome of the match has already been DECIDED. In a 5v5 I always try my absolute best to win, but in a 4v5 I have zero motivation to leave the starting area.

To someone who has faced countless 4v5’s and is completely sick of it, it’s a very tall order to tell them to play that round just for a tiny bit of glory. You know, putting aside the fact how difficult it is to score any points because whenever they try to kill someone (or cap a point), multiple enemies show up and they’re quickly outnumbered.

After facing endless 4v5 scenarios it’s incredibly infuriating at this point that ArenaNet still hasn’t done anything about it…and if you really accept “reports” of people who AFK just because the battle was already lost to begin with, then frankly I am left speechless. Treating them on the same level as botters…unbelievable.

That’s about as polite as I can get in my response to both you and PlagueParade.

Simply unbelievable.

What’s “simply unbelievable” is that you won’t even try. I’ve been in the same boat as you plenty of times but, hey, I’m no quitter and I’ve even won a couple times in a 4v5. It’s called learning tactics. Coordinate with your teammates. Stick in groups of 2 or zerg it. Have a 3 man group cap areas to draw people in and the 4th cap another area or vice versa. I’ll play to gain even a small amount of glory rather than nothing at all. At the very least I can try and gain some experience with multiple people attacking me and I occasionally take one down before being taken out myself. In almost every case, yea the four man group will lose but like I said, I’ve won a handful of times too. How do you think you’re going to get better sitting up there or staying dead on the ground? You think you don’t get killed by multiple people in a 5v5 while your by your lonesome capping an area or taking an orb?

What I do not need are defeatist people like you who whine about it and decide to quit making it worse for the rest of us who TRY to win even if the chances are small. So if someone in my group acts like you I’ll report you as a bot as the dev suggested. I’m here to play pvp not sit on the sidelines bemoaning my bad situation.

Is there a way to report people that intentionally do not play because their team is either losing or there’s an afker\ D/Cer (or other various reasons) in the team? Cause on occasion we have this and it gets rather annoying that they stop b/c they’re going to lose. I mean at the least they could fight for the extra glory points you can accumulate while fighting if anything else.

Karalaza.6021:

If there ever will be a future set of legendaries I’d like for them to put more thought into it. Currently some legendaries “lock out” armor-weapon combinations if you’re into stuff like that.
example: Bifrost on a necro in arah gear… only good for the lulz factor (necromancer shooting rainbow orbs).

Class specific legendaries would be something nice but i’d doubt they would put time into that.

Yea, It would be kinda nice if you could choose to toggle off the firing effects of weapons. Necros holding byfrost wearing all white sorta reminds me of Glinda from Wizard of Oz. “Are you a good necro or a bad necro.”

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

and what of us that want a Shortbow that shoots Nyancats or random barnyard fowl?

Hmm?

That’s what the dreamer is for. =oP

Sorta sad though that this thread has turned more into a troll than actual ideas of what people would’ve wanted to see. I was really curious about ideas that others had that would’ve made a good legendary weapon.