Guild Wars 2

No use in extra vitality if you cant heal it. Also knight has more toughness than Cleric. TBH i only advocate extra vitality from gear on eles and thiefs and even then 16K seems the sweet spot.

It procs pretty often for me. I recommend Knight over Soldier if you go that route.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Pets take aggro from guards now. I might as well quit my ranger and roll an easy mode thief or mesmer.

Way to go guild wars, you’ve killed the only thing dear to me.

Killing people who run into camps thinking they are safe you will be missed.

Sword/Dagger and Greatsword.

Ill try to break it down to you and not sugar coat it.

There is no “Range class” in GW 2 or Melee class, the sooner you accept this the better. Some classes will melee or range better and its not because its supposed to be this way but because they havent gotten balance down correct yet. Lastly Ranger is not the best range class, they do fine but they are actually better in melee.

Every class does pretty much as much dps in melee as other classes and in range. With exception of warriors that do about 30% more melee damage in melee.

Rangers are 1 of 2 classes (of the 8 ) that split their dps potential between their pets, the 2nd one being mesmer. Example if melee classes do 1,000 DPS Rangers themselves will do on average 500 and their pets 500. Basically pets do 50% of the rangers damage, sometimes more depending on their on their build or slightly less.

Since pets make up so much damage of the rangers you cant treat your pet as a fire and forget damage add. You have to look out for it, they also add support/CC to your class. If you dont want to look out for your pet as an extention of your self then dont roll a ranger but if you think this is fun then roll one. They are to me my 2nd fave class next to Ele and they are a very good class but people usually play them badly letting their pet die so most ppl shun Rangers and view them as free kills.

If you want to roll one ill post a spec. Btw i have 6 80s and leveling a 7th. Pretty experienced in all the classes except Necro, i know a bit about it.

Chokolata.1870:

or you can go , gs sword warhorn with runes of water .

As a bunker i wouldnt recommend that.

Guess ill buy 2 sets of each just in case i make a use for them.

Malsevon.1630:

Ah, thanks man. Which traits should I swap? Sorry couldn’t find that part lol.

0/0/30/10/30 or 0/0/30/20/20 are your options. Cleric amulet with dwayna runes. Sigil of life and energy sigil.

Troll Unguent or Healing Spring.
Lightning Reflexes and Signet of the Wild. 3rd utility is Quickness for stomps/rez or Signet of Renewal. Sic em is an option too. Rampage as one for Elite.

WS line you take Survival Cooldowns. Sword cooldowns. 3rd trait Bark Skin or Empathic Bond. Vigor on Heal trait is an option ONLY if you run Healing spring but Vigor doesnt stack with 50% endurance Trait.
NM you take 33% Regen trait and if you go 20 NM you get protection on Crit.
BM you take Mighty Swap and 20% CD reduction to F2. If you go 30 BM you get the pet heal.

As always you can tweak your build to what you like or your group comp. I usually run Jaguar and Wolf pet.

Malsevon.1630:

This is a nice build man. I always like things that kinda go against the grain a bit, and a melee ranger usually does lol. I was curious though, would you happen to have a more bunker version for TPvP you could share with me? I have some guildies who formed a TPvP team and we need a bunker. I tried the Guardian thing, but that just isn’t really fun imo. So I’m trying to learn ways to bunker from more knowledgeable rangers like yourself.

My very first video is a good bunker choice. I used to bunker with it for our team in tPvP just swap the traits that i said. The thread should still be in the first page here.

No when you zerg you die 2 ways.

A bjgger zerg kills you.

You are the slowest of the pack and get picked off.

I solo on my glass cannon thief :p.
Also dont take my signature seriously.

Chokolata.1870:

ive suggested 15 in skirmishing and nature with a bunkerish build 2 months ago, my topic swiftly proceded to the 10th page though .

But yea , 0 15 10 15 30 is very versatile with its gear choice , weapon choice and pet choice . I have been running runes of altruism as it is an additional 15% boon duration, 3 stacks of might and fury on heal . Essentially you can go perma fury with that .
Very useful in dungeon groups as well, just put on healing spring , and every 30 seconds you apply might , fury , regen, vigor and condition cleanse on the whole group . Add a jungle stalker and fern hound and be a ranger guardian lols

Im 0/15/15/15/25 but yah its a very good build. Those rune choices are good for PvE groups i just like my Regen.

faeral.7120:

nice work. i have used this build extensively since week 1. it is quite versatile. this spec gets you the best / most consistent pet dps of any spec i have tried. fortifying bond is so nice to have.

1 thing to try playing around with is lyssa runes, since all buffs will be shared with pet & gives you a full condi wipe that helps without 30 in wilderness.

You need 25% Boon Duration to give your pet perma Fury/Swiftness with Warhorn 5 and weapon swap. Another thing is that 4 dwayna runes give me like 90% uptime on regen. I find lyssa runes pretty bad TBH to buff the pet.

Wooli.1780:

Great vid man,
I just realised you are Pwndro, we used to run the same areas when i played my SB Logem

Oh hey i remember you

When you play like a zergling, you die like a zergling.

Furajir.3815:

Eurantien.4632:

I’m kinda disappointed at the skill level of your foes. Seriously, does no one use condition damage or even know to kite birds/cats in wvw?

We talk about this all the time. It is unfortunate but a mass percentage of the player base, as with any game, isn’t very skilled. Most of us that are uploading videos on these ranger forums came from DAoC, and were known for soloing and going against the odds for years.

I have literally 20+hours of footage from the past week and there are 3 total fights that end in a draw, everybody else gets facerolled. Thats just the general concensus in any MMO. Anyone who actually is any good will always end up being some sort of stalemate, or nowhere to be found in general.

Pretty much this. You run into the random ranger and you will just destroy him then if you fight one of the good rangers on the forums with your own ranger it becomes a fight of who makes a mistake to gain an edge in the fight.

About 1,650 HPS.

Manekk.6981:

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

Xsorus.2507:

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

He’d lose all the regen with melandru+food though wich would kinda take away the whole point of using clerics in the first place

4 Dwayna + 2 melandru + food.

That’s a way I guess although I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to simply stick with 6 dwayna and use the lemongrass then to get the bigger healing bonus and an extra regen source, of course it depends entirely what setup your opponent has and if he’s in turn eating pizzas or not.

4 Dwayna is still pretty much almost perma regen.

Manekk.6981:

Xsorus.2507:

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

He’d lose all the regen with melandru+food though wich would kinda take away the whole point of using clerics in the first place

4 Dwayna + 2 melandru + food.

On of its abilities does weakness, i think its the Tail Swipe.

Zera.8907:

Haha another amazing video. Love the build, very well thought out. I was so off in what I thought you were doing. Great job as usual!

The secret is out!

Xsorus.2507:

personally i laughed hard when i saw them talking about Kzar Zerg from DAOC heheh

Man that guy could Zerg

but yea, props on running a unique build.

I was trying to come up with a Cleric Build earlier today similar to this, but it was no where near this fleshed out. But yea, very good video.

Kzar and Oldboy…. FOR THE REALM!!!!

Ive ran into a few bunker rangers with this new build and they seem to not be able to keep up with the damage.

Spirit.9158:

This is great! I love the sword and warhorn combination as well, watching this is making me consider going full melee. I noticed you use Sic ‘Em, have you noticed at all if it still get cancelled a lot or does it not with your jaguar? I use jaguar as well and if it doesn’t… that’s a lot of extra power for the pet.

Not to do with the build, but, I’m happy somebody else uses the weapon skins I have and love, this made me happier than it should have, haha!

It still get’s canceled but very rarely because ive found most things that cancel it, its not perfect though. The damage increase is so good though.

Nugget.8031:

I reckon condi rangers would kitten on this spec, you would have perma poison on you which would kitten your heals.

Condi rangers don’t do enough damage to kill me with this spec.

Edit: Im assuming you are talking about Condi BM Ranger Bunker not Trap Spec.

zTales.4392:

The video is private? :<

FIXED!

New build for this 2nd video. This will likely be my regular WvW build from now on since i find it a good mix of surviveability and damage. The loss of Martial Mastery, Bark Skin, 6th Dwayna Rune Effect and Energy Sigils really affects my ability to just negate a ton of damage but its not so bad if i time my dodges well and my weapon evade/block. The Permanent Fury/Swiftness and 6-9 Stacks of Might for me and my pet really help out the damage. First few clips is showcasing the damage potential of the build against some unfortunate targets, then the rest is 1vX.

Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/7GMrfoo0ZZk

Xsorus.2507:

lLobo.7960:

One thing about the weapon sigils.
Do you need one “on weapon swap” sigil on each weapon? It seems to me they trigger both when swapping to and out of the weapon.

Might need to test this again when I get back home…

I don’t know, i’ll test that.

They only trigger when you swap into it.

Sadly i don’t have full zerks on my ranger.

Antisceptic.9174:

Puandro.3245:

Antisceptic.9174:

I’ve been using this in SPvP. I seem to be struggling. In one on one fights I usually outlast them until help arrives, one way or another. However I die to condition builds, particularly when I get bleed stacked.

In sPvP i recommend taking Empathic Bond over Bark Skin and/or Healing Spring over Troll Unguent. Also Mighty Swap over Masters Bond.

Okay, I’ll give that a shot. Thanks.

What about Sword sigil, ?

Sigils are fine as a bunker to hold a point.

Nice first vid. You need to control your pet a bit more when you run, also if you aren’t running masters bond swap more often.

Also you fought my Guildmate Miiro for the last 1/3 of the video lol. I was hoping 1 of you would kill each other but the fights kept getting added oh well.

I don’t think it does too much damage nor do i think it uses too little initiative, but i do think 2 boons stolen is too much.

Zera.8907:

Puandro, my video is in the works. Hope to have it up and running by Tuesday the latest. :-)

Nice. Probably post my new build tomorrow.

Antisceptic.9174:

I’ve been using this in SPvP. I seem to be struggling. In one on one fights I usually outlast them until help arrives, one way or another. However I die to condition builds, particularly when I get bleed stacked.

In sPvP i recommend taking Empathic Bond over Bark Skin and/or Healing Spring over Troll Unguent. Also Mighty Swap over Masters Bond.

Manekk.6981:

Puandro.3245:

If all the damage was transferred from the pet to the players would people do better? Probably yes, your average joe doesn’t utilize the pets well enough. Overall the class would be weaker.

Best case scenario I think would be pets being able to cast their no1 skill while moving and only stop on bigger better cd abilities and at the same time transfer some of their damage to the ranger so they would still be worth too much too lose in pure damage but at the same time do a little less due to higher uptime on other players for example, in my opinion anyway cause some of the more mobile classes don’t really get hit at all by the pet unless they literally stop moving.

I wish pets would attack as they move but at the same time their damage would have to be toned down.

10% Boon Duration is from the 10 NM im spending to get the 33% regen trait……

Toughness line traits offer give more surviveability then the NM line offers.

If all the damage was transferred from the pet to the players would people do better? Probably yes, your average joe doesn’t utilize the pets well enough. Overall the class would be weaker.

Master’s Bond stacks on me not the pet, lose stacks if pet dies not me.

Pet can’t dodge, pet dies to agony. Sadly BM specs are bad for high level fractals.

Callahan.3180:

Puandro.3245:

I don’t use SB in my Ranger build, full melee for me baby! 50% endurance regen doesn’t stack with Vigor btw. Hammer Warriors are nothing new, really the best weapon to use if you solo roam is Hammer + something else. I also don’t advocate any type of Vitality on a warrior due to their high base health as it is.

Nice clips though BTW and i wish you luck!

I’ve seen some of those as well. It would be nice to have a workable Longbow main though. I guess I’ll give them another year to develop tooltip changes LOL

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Video-Exploits-WvW-Melee-BM-Ranger/first

My melee video.

And LB has a problem with damage and i don’t see how they could improve it without breaking it. Basically i don’t think it should do more damage then SB does atm for a range weapon and if it doesnt do more damage than SB its pointless.

Nerva.8903:

Puandro.3245:

Nerva.8903:

Is it because of the 5% chance to gain regeneration for 10second with a 30sec cd/

Regen on hit + regen duration + 10 nature is a very good set up.

Can be achieved with 2/2/2 combo, 53% regen duration and 60% boon duration with a 0/0/10/30/30.

Guess with oakheart salve(5s) + regen on hit(10s) + regen when using a healing skill (5s) + 53% regen duration + 10% boon duration could get you to a high margin.

Question is does it beat the 2/2/2 or which one comes out top.
I would test out both if I had the gold to invest into 2 healing sets.
I kinda want to make a ranger build that is viable in wvw with just straight up power/tough/healing power gear

I have no idea why you would go 30 nature magic. 10 NM + 6 Dwayna runes with the 33% regen trait. thats 63% Regen Dur. Pretty much perma regen.

2/2/2 does not come close to that. Best you can do is 4 dwayna runes and 2 runes with duration then its almost perma.

Nerva.8903:

Is it because of the 5% chance to gain regeneration for 10second with a 30sec cd/

Regen on hit + regen duration + 10 nature is a very good set up.

Callahan.3180:

Furajir.3815:

Puandro.3245:

What do you mean rangers are a sad joke?

Was just about to ask the same thing.

I would kitten all over your warrs face and collect your badges before you even knew what happened.

That being said, fun vid :p

Callahan.3180:

Props for those in my upcoming vid who still play it because I assure you it’s broken if you wish to deviate from the Shortbow path.

Read? I tend to play an underdog role in whatever class I play. That means I don’t like using cookie cutter builds. You will find success in using a shortbow/sword warhorn, or some other similar weapon set. Now, can you honestly tell me you’d have the same success with a longbow, solo roaming, against thieves, mesmers, engineers, and even warriors? I highly doubt it. Longbow is a very badly designed, clunky, and slow weapon for Ranger. I hate the idea of having to use a shortbow just to solo roam. I played Aion and the ranger class in that game hit kitten hard with the longbow. That’s how I wikitten was in this game. Also, you have no stability popping utilities. The only skills that help you out in that event are the lightning reflexes. I also observed that immobilize is your weakness. Good luck getting out of that.

So in summary, I say that rangers of the longbow genre are absolutely awful. If you disagree, please, upload an amazing montage to completely prove me wrong. I’ve been wanting to play that class for ages, but that fact keeps stopping me.

Also, I’d totally be down for a duel. I don’t think kitten is the word to describe fecal integrity. I have seen some pretty awesome shortbow rangers. They have 50% endurance regen plus vigor? you’d dodge a lot of my moves sunny, but I’d still put up a fight.

I don’t use SB in my Ranger build, full melee for me baby! 50% endurance regen doesn’t stack with Vigor btw. Hammer Warriors are nothing new, really the best weapon to use if you solo roam is Hammer + something else. I also don’t advocate any type of Vitality on a warrior due to their high base health as it is.

Nice clips though BTW and i wish you luck!

You need full dwayna runes for perma regen.

Still stuck with the same bads.

What do you mean rangers are a sad joke?

Dazes/stuns are rounded up.

lol thanks.

Working on a 2nd vid with a new build, looking good so far.

GS/SB is good if you mix a bit of Cleric/Knight maybe a piece or two of Soldier.

Little background info. Played D/D Thief for a few weeks last year mostly in tournies and did P/D Condi in WvW. Did a bit of D/P in Tourny matches in Feb. but not much. TBH i don’t have much experience with this new spec in WvW the initiative regen is pretty crazy so im not use to be able to spam abilities like its going out of style. Also ive never used S/D until i tried this new spec. I usually have more time to put my videos together but ive been pretty short on time overall. Probably played a total of 10 hours in WvW max since the S/D patch hit and i used like 1/4 of my clips, threw out a lot of 1v1’s 1v2’s. If you thought those were bad players you have no idea.

Mainly decided to put together the video since i was seeing a lot of QQ recently because of the trap patch and how thieves are useless and can’t compete ect. If i can do this playing mediocre at best in a T1 server with super zergs running around i can’t see how thieves can’t compete.

1) Im aware of the shadow shot + BS combo but IMHO i don’t think its worth the initiative, just how i feel about that.

2) Yes i meant 25/30/0/0/15.

3) Yes i missed a lot of opportunities on Head Shot, kicked myself for all the times i didnt use it.

4) I am learning how to use S/D but you can’t learn to use it if you don’t use it at all. Learning by mistakes is the best way to learn if you know what mistakes you are doing.

Lastly thanks for the feedback, always appreciated.

swinsk.6410:

Wow, this video is vert frustrating to watch…

Ever heard of shadowshot? So many times you could have ended it and instead you chose to run behind them spamming AA instead.

Im touchy with my initiative since im too used to running 30/30/0/0/15 in tPvP.

swinsk.6410:

Can’t watch on mobile device…

Get a computer.

http://youtu.be/6OX6ThUIcJ0