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Funny thing is both of those servers are pretty hard carried by their night crews so DH actually has a shot to beat them since neither will be ticking at 600 all night, but I still can’t imagine being stuck in a worse match up. Prime time will be 2 blobs avoiding each other to PvD whatever they can sneak attack, and if you take 5 guys to hit a tower you will see about 20 people run in to hop on ac’s while they call their server blob to come take care of your 5 man group. RIP roaming and small scale fights.

Arius.7031:

sephiroth.4217:

Personally I enjoy being on DB, only just transferred myself.

Not sure what people are going on about with this whole blob thing and no one fights nonsense, it’s the sorta stuff that happens on all servers…

“That 1 uplevel is hiding in a tower from me god that server is bad they all hide and never fight only blob” is nothing more than juicy tears

This is what Db apologists always say. Sorry, servers are not all the same, they’re not all equal. Yes, all blob, all hide, but some blob more, some hide more. Db blobs most. Db hides most. Db is the worst. Db is the least respectable. Db is truly a terrifyingly bad server, I would rather face any server in the game than Db.

I’m sorry, don’t want to turn this into a “bash Db” thread… I’m just saying you can’t reject criticisms with “oh all do it to some extent!”. All countries have corruption, therefore we’ll say the Soviet Union was no worse than other countries? That logic just doesn’t fly.

Wait until next week when you get stuck with SF and DB. You better hope AR pulls off a massive win this week to pull their glicko back up or you are going to get stuck in the most boring match up of your life.

Chaba.5410:

Sounds like DB is getting a bandwagon again.

I’m looking forward to their next inevitable implosion.

SBIBL did have a 40+ man queue going for quite awhile but there was always at least 1 map open. You definitely want a small group to roam with during prime time but the rest of the day is surprisingly roamer friendly. Also make sure you bring a good amount of condi removal, there are a crap ton of groups running with venoms and burn guards.

laaaaaaaaaaaaame.

Norn power necro (your choice of build) with snow leopard elite.

Tarkus.4109:

Kinda off topic but, hopefully HoT will bring some new OCX players to the game. I doubt they’ll be too interested in WvW/GvG though, considering the biggest draw for the expansion is PvE content.

The pve content might be the initial attraction but once they realize how terrible it is after a few weeks of playing it they will check out WvW. If they have a tag to follow they might stick around, otherwise the majority will leave. That’s why it would be better to have some guilds on servers that aren’t locked during that timezone.

yav.4952:

Funtedmace, add me as a LATE +1 >:)

Don’t necessarily think an OCX/SEA “fights tier” is a good idea, especially recruitment wise, but open to hear what you put forward.

Also EOTM scrimming gets annoying, fast.. (kitten interruptions: the cannons and certain EOTM commanders..), but what else can you do.

You can only fight the same map queue everyday for so long. If we were at all interested in zergbusting we would have transferred to T1 along time ago.

Just want to point out since T1 and 2 are full the only place you will be able to recruit the new players HoT will bring are on lower tiers.

sanctuary.1068:

Puck.9612:

So if people don’t agree with you they don’t PvP…… smh.

You know how you win vs trapper rangers? Use your brain, don’t stand in their traps. If you die more than one time in a match against a trapper ranger that is entirely a l2p issue. Most are running with no stability, no stun breaks, and have crappy condi removal. Dodge roll through the point to activate their traps and cc/burst them down.

Pro tip, you can avoid having condi’s stack on you by avoiding their application. Same way you avoid direct damage by avoiding hits.

Youre just impossible, watch the video how fast it takes to build up 10 stacks. Im done with you. Youre so tiredsome.

Yeah if you are stupid enough to stand in the traps….. That’s the whole solution… use your brain, don’t stand in the traps. How hard is that? The only way you should ever die to a trap ranger is if you don’t realize he’s a trap ranger. It is one of the easiest builds in the game to counter, especially in PvP where they don’t have access to trapper runes.

So if people don’t agree with you they don’t PvP…… smh.

You know how you win vs trapper rangers? Use your brain, don’t stand in their traps. If you die more than one time in a match against a trapper ranger that is entirely a l2p issue. Most are running with no stability, no stun breaks, and have crappy condi removal. Dodge roll through the point to activate their traps and cc/burst them down.

Pro tip, you can avoid having condi’s stack on you by avoiding their application. Same way you avoid direct damage by avoiding hits.

sanctuary.1068:

Nope, the smart people understand the issue which has been shown in this post. People who actually know pvp, which already stated ranger trap is op and condition in general, meanwhile you just argue while ive clearly explained what the issue is over and over. Youre the only one so far which doesnt understand. The issue is you cant outheal or cleanse off all those conditions due to the fast rate they get stacked up. People earlier already said you cant survive it which seconds what ive said several times already. You JUST dont understand because you dont play pvp enough or youre not up to date. If more people than me say it (which they have in this post) and btw, i can tell when people know pvp or not, and youre not one of them. If you would know how it looks like in pvp right now you wouldnt even say all those things you have done so far. And the most funny message in this post was the dude saying i was inexperienced because i said rangers needed a nerf. He showed right there he knows nothing about pvp. Others after that has second me that good rangers are basically unbeatable and only counters are mesmers & ele. You maybe have low mmr that only face bad rangers in pvp.

So basically it proves my point.

Sanctuary says the problem: the amount those classes can apply conditions at such fast rate makes it impossible to outheal & cleanse. (And with cleanse it doesnt matter how much you bring bc you have 3 utility where you can bring cleanses and that doesnt last all fight and/or it doesnt fit with your build). Hence builds which has sustain vs condition in their builds like some warrior builds can survive it.

And then we have puck…

Puck: “There are classes running condi’s that kill me so they are OP. I’m not entirely sure what they are running so I have done nothing to counter them, therefore the logical solution is they need to be nerfed so I don’t have to figure out what they are running. If you disagree with me you run condi’s and are bad.”

YEA OBV I DIDNT EXPLAIN THE REASON SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE…

Thought you were done responding to me.

I can tell english isn’t your first language but is your reading comprehension really that bad? Go back and look through the thread and count the amount of people that disagree with you or are basically laughing at you.

“rangers are basically unbeatable” might be my new favorite post by you lol.

sanctuary.1068:

Yea and his statement about necros had nothing to do with what i said. We are talking about applying conditions on targets. The focus rly isnt condition build vs condition build. If a necro doesnt face a person with a condition build a necro cant apply as much condition as one of the above classes can in such short time. Whats so hard to comprehend?

Everytime when you argue with me puck it always make zero sense. Its basically like this.

Sanctuary says: A and B.
Puck: So youre saying C and D.
Sanctuary: no im still saying A and B.
Puck: So youre saying E and F.
Sanctuary: No still A and B.
Puck: Youre totally saying G and H.
Sanctuary: Sigh…still A and B.

And it goes on…

I wont even bother answering you anymore puck because you just dont understand the content in my messages.

That’s because your posts don’t say anything meaningful.
Your posts in this thread can basically summed up as, “There are classes running condi’s that kill me so they are OP. I’m not entirely sure what they are running so I have done nothing to counter them, therefore the logical solution is they need to be nerfed so I don’t have to figure out what they are running. If you disagree with me you run condi’s and are bad.”

I’d like to believe you are simply trolling but I don’t think you are that clever.

sanctuary.1068:

We never brought up condition (transfer back) tho, so idk what youre trying to say with that. Ofc necro is good vs other condi classes. No one has said anything else or even mentioned it in this post.

You were literally just talking about how other classes are better with condi’s than necro’s.

forum bug…………..

I just wish they would straight copy fort aspenwood from GW1. It was the same idea but it was so much more fun.

Zachary Stiers.1879:

An upcoming patch will contain changes to how line of sight is calculate for arrow carts. Some of the arrow cart skills ignored line of sight and the rest were too forgiving with their line of sight calculations. Both of these issues allowed players with modified cameras to shoot an arrow cart from behind walls to locations they shouldn’t have even been able to see, much less fire at. In the future arrow cart skills will use a special type of line of sight checking specifically designed to reduce this problem while still making the allowed target areas feel reasonable.

Thanks for taking the time to post, hopefully the fix is as good as it sounds.

sanctuary.1068:

+ id counter your agument saying its invalid because necros cant spam their marks as the classes i brought up can apply their conditions over and over. Learn how necros work before you say smth.

You’re saying ranger traps don’t have a cooldown?

sanctuary.1068:

Also, the person that needs to know how a discussion works is you, because when you dont get your way, you start attacking people personally. So go ahead, start a course or something in how arguments work.

sanctuary.1068:

Puck = “yes condi need a change but ill argue with sanctuary just because of it, because i get a thrill of this and i need a life even tho i know sanctuary is right but my manhood is in danger if i dont continue to argue”.

GG

sanctuary.1068:

Setz.9675:

imo its complete and utter bullkitten how some classes apply conditions.

Ranger traps recharging the moment they are set down (not when they are activated) but mesmer mantra’s recharge after the last use, BS!

At some point in time, Anet stated that they were fine with classes doing a lot of damage or classes that do a lot of CC but they don’t want classes to have both at the same time. Somehow Anet decided that having super high defensive with the abnormal condition damage that we have now is fine though. Looking at burn guards, schizofrenic ebola mesmers and engineers >.>

+1

Finally someone who gets it. The others dont seem to have pvp much the past weeks or theyre completely out of date.

Unlike you Setz actually made an argument instead of crying how life is unfair and everything should be nerfed. Giving an argument provides a place to open a meaningful dialogue.

I would counter Setz argument by pointing out necro marks work the same way but they have the benefit of being ground targeted and they don’t take up valuable utility slots that the ranger needs for stun breaks and condi clears. A ranger running traps is pretty much a yolo build that stops being effective once the enemy knows what you are running.

Are you starting to understand how discussions work?

sanctuary.1068:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL seriously you people. You change my words in a way i havent even said. Continue like that, it will get you far in life.

“Im not 100% sure of what builds they are but its all condition builds and theyre op.”

Continue crying about things you don’t understand, it will get you far in life.

Manekk.6981:

Puck.9612:

Our pets weren’t buffed, people are just speccing into beastmastery line now since we can fully go into 3 lines. If anything they were kind of nerfed since their condi damage is even weaker than it was before.
Also how was backstab nerfed? I haven’t spent a lot of time on my thief since the trait change but it seemed to me it was hitting just as hard if not harder than it did pre patch.

At the top of the thief forum right now https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/19k-backstab/first#post5399541
That’s nearly a 20k backstab in PvP, imagine how hard it can hit in WvW with the right set up.

I’m pretty sure they normalized the damage of backstab (along with many other skills) in pvp, pve and wvw in this case backstab got a buff in pvp and nerf in wvw.

That makes no sense. Through guard stacks, food/utility buffs and gear variety you can do more damage in WvW. Not to mention revealed doesn’t last as long in WvW so they can backstab more often. How could their damage be lower?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying thieves have it easy in WvW, but the problem isn’t their damage.

PlatinumMember.5274:

Ithilwen.1529:

The balance issues are not in the classes at all in my opinion. The fact is that there is a population of players that is significantly more skillful than most. Whatever class they decide is fashionable this week will be OP.

The way to fix balance issues would be to penalize rapid button press style play, as GW 1 does. I literally never hear complaints about balance there.

Funniest thing I have ever read…today.

Ithilwen went on for months about how OP longbow rangers are…. that pretty much says everything you need to know about her doesn’kitten

Solandri.9640:

Vendetta.1958:

Being able to spam an unblockable CC that locks you out of the targeting system every fifteen seconds is extremely overpowered.

Out of curiosity, doesn’t stealth do the same thing – unblockable and locks you out of everyone’s targeting instead of just players nearby?

Necro has several unblockable ways to fear players….

Kako.1930:

This seems like a troll post to me. This guy thinks condi auto attacks are OP and even admitted that most of his own damage comes from auto attacks. He also thinks RANGERS are OP, but says he has experience pvping…

._.;;;

Is anyone taking this seriously?

Taking it seriously? No, not at all. It has been highly amusing though.

The reason balance problems won’t end is because we have 3 very different game modes and the dev’s won’t split the way the majority of the professions work in each.

Things like the recent condi change, which is fine for PvE, should have never been added to PVP and WvW. Venom share thief is easy to deal with in PvP but it is completely broken in WvW. Necro’s and mesmers can use a dps boost in PvE but only in PvE, giving those 2 classes more damage in PvP or WvW would be insane.

They already balance ranger pets, stealth, and stats differently in each game mode. It’s time they bite the bullet and balance the rest of the professions separately as well.

Dolt.2731:

if warden is op then what does that make mesmer’s mantra of distraction?

Also, is anyone else running blood/ air sigils? I’m really liking it.

I have been in PvP. I haven’t decided for WvW yet, mostly because I spent so much money on fire and air sigils for all my characters and I hate to lose them. I also have a few force sigils sitting in my bank, not sure if those our worth taking over one of the others, has anyone made a post doing the math since the nerf to fire/air?

Vendetta.1958:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Vendetta.1958:

If I’m being honest, Beastly Warden should probably be on a much higher CD than it is. It’s extremely OP in the current state.

Well, at least we get one thing, then.

Well, two, if you include how trivially easy it is to be a devastating force on the field with longbow.

I sorta liked being the underdog i.e. March last year.

In all seriousness, nerf the BW and buff the bad GMs like the Nature Magic heal on F2 so we can have some nice build diversity.

Or maybe for once rangers can just get buffs without seeing something else nerfed. A 15 second cooldown that relies on the pets crappy AI and pathing doesn’t seem nerf worthy to me. It’s a strong trait but there are plenty of situations where zephyr’s is better to take in its place.

sanctuary.1068:

Puck.9612:

sanctuary.1068:

Puck.9612:

sanctuary.1068:

Ok obviously i have to explain it how i would explain to a little kid. You get surprise hit 6 times with skill 1 on engie with a condition build. That means you have 12 stacks of bleed. 12 is quite high and remove quite alot of health every tick. So you try to kite so you dont get more ticks on you, which leads to you cant attack the engie, all you can do is kite or run off from the node until bleed wears off and you have to waste a heal already.

Imagine getting hit by a ranger zerk with longbow (using this as an example because melee doesnt cut it when it comes to zerk you can just run off from melee). So you get surprise hit a few times, lose a bit health, but guess what. You dont have 12 stacks of bleed on you, so you can have a comeback, heal up and blind the ranger and start kiting.

Understand now kids?

Or…. (bear with me because I know this is a crazy concept) you could cleanse/transfer the conditions and then cc and kill your opponent.

A lot of people on here will agree that condition application needs to be adjusted but your post will never receive support because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. When you can’t even tell what’s killing you and you come screaming for a nerf it makes you sound like a spoiled child that throws a tantrum when he doesn’t get his way.

Spend a few weeks playing each of those builds. Learn their strengths and weaknesses and then come back with a real argument.

I know what it is thats killing me, only reason why i dont explained my post in detail from very beginning is because its directed to anet and not you people. Anet knows very well condition etc is a tad overpowered i dont need to explain it further when theres 1 million post out there thats its op already. Ive seen your other posts on the forums, youre a condition supporter, no shocker there. The fact you also attack someone personally means you know youre wrong, which you also stated in that post. "A lot of people on here will agree that condition application needs to be adjusted but your post will never receive support because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. " (Puck). Epic sentence right there. Well its not my fault you cant comprehend what my point is when i start a thread, i dont need to explain things when its already out there, its not a new issue. I know what conditions it is that kill me, i just dont know the names of the builds because i dont play them, simple as that. It doesnt mean i didnt try them, but i dont play them. So all people who realised theyre wrong, well its not my fault you decided to ruin your ego all by yourself by arguing with me when its all common sense what i talk about.

So if the actual arguments against condi’s are out there, where people are making well thought out, reasonable arguments on what needs to be adjusted, what exactly is the point of your post? All your pointless crying is doing is cluttering the forums and drawing attention away from those relevant posts.

It can actually be argued that you are hurting the cause since your qq post basically said you are unwilling to learn what is giving you such a hard time and whether there is a way to counter it. If I knew nothing about the game and I only had your post to go off of I would assume conditions are fine and you are just a bad player.

Dude, the reason why, is because there are certain builds that are stronger at condition applying than others. Imo necros dont need a nerf ATM while other builds need a real nerf. So if you nerf condition in one boom some classes/builds will become alot weaker than they should. Thats why i tried to point out some classes which is redicilous when it comes to condition applying at a fast rate. Like 2 years ago necros were op with conditions (i played necro only back then). I could wipe people within seconds, and it didnt even matter how good players they were. Your arguments are just invalid and reading all these posts from you people just shows you want conditions to be as strong as they are because YOU play them atm and want to faceroll people. Simple as that. Well you have to learn sometime that if you want to win you have to work for it, you cant always take the easy way out puck.

I wonder how far you would have to dig through my post history to find something (probably taken out of context) saying I strongly support condi’s in their current form.

For the record I play power the majority of the time and I do think condi application needs a change.

That doesn’t change the fact you came on here with nothing but salty tears about how you died and they should nerf every class that you repeatedly die to because you can’t be bothered to l2p.

Also are you really complaining about condi’s when you main a necro? Wow man….just wow.

sanctuary.1068:

Puck.9612:

sanctuary.1068:

Ok obviously i have to explain it how i would explain to a little kid. You get surprise hit 6 times with skill 1 on engie with a condition build. That means you have 12 stacks of bleed. 12 is quite high and remove quite alot of health every tick. So you try to kite so you dont get more ticks on you, which leads to you cant attack the engie, all you can do is kite or run off from the node until bleed wears off and you have to waste a heal already.

Imagine getting hit by a ranger zerk with longbow (using this as an example because melee doesnt cut it when it comes to zerk you can just run off from melee). So you get surprise hit a few times, lose a bit health, but guess what. You dont have 12 stacks of bleed on you, so you can have a comeback, heal up and blind the ranger and start kiting.

Understand now kids?

Or…. (bear with me because I know this is a crazy concept) you could cleanse/transfer the conditions and then cc and kill your opponent.

A lot of people on here will agree that condition application needs to be adjusted but your post will never receive support because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. When you can’t even tell what’s killing you and you come screaming for a nerf it makes you sound like a spoiled child that throws a tantrum when he doesn’t get his way.

Spend a few weeks playing each of those builds. Learn their strengths and weaknesses and then come back with a real argument.

I know what it is thats killing me, only reason why i dont explained my post in detail from very beginning is because its directed to anet and not you people. Anet knows very well condition etc is a tad overpowered i dont need to explain it further when theres 1 million post out there thats its op already. Ive seen your other posts on the forums, youre a condition supporter, no shocker there. The fact you also attack someone personally means you know youre wrong, which you also stated in that post. "A lot of people on here will agree that condition application needs to be adjusted but your post will never receive support because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. " (Puck). Epic sentence right there. Well its not my fault you cant comprehend what my point is when i start a thread, i dont need to explain things when its already out there, its not a new issue. I know what conditions it is that kill me, i just dont know the names of the builds because i dont play them, simple as that. It doesnt mean i didnt try them, but i dont play them. So all people who realised theyre wrong, well its not my fault you decided to ruin your ego all by yourself by arguing with me when its all common sense what i talk about.

So if the actual arguments against condi’s are out there, where people are making well thought out, reasonable arguments on what needs to be adjusted, what exactly is the point of your post? All your pointless crying is doing is cluttering the forums and drawing attention away from those relevant posts.

It can actually be argued that you are hurting the cause since your qq post basically said you are unwilling to learn what is giving you such a hard time and whether there is a way to counter it. If I knew nothing about the game and I only had your post to go off of I would assume conditions are fine and you are just a bad player.

Sorel.4870:

Puck.9612:

I like to run those 3 when dueling, but the majority of the time I run marksmanship, skirmishing, beastmastery with a few shouts, trooper runes and remorseless. The damage is a lot stronger and this set up is actually a lot more survivable in WvW since you aren’t fighting on point and quickdraw helps you outmaneuver people with your double stealth and double leaps.

Could you please link the build you’re using? I’m new to ranger, and I’ve been trying to design a low-precision build with these three traitlines, for WvW roaming. A little inspirarion from a veteran would be most welcome. Thanks in advance.

Pretty much this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRnUqA9CiNsAusActgh/gaf9FIA+04HOaefz3N4gVfeA-TFDEABLqOie6AuUlACeAAbpE0gLBATKzmUFjmUa0mmgk2fAgjAAhAMvAA-w but I switch things up depending on what I’m running into that night. Sometimes swap drake for a bird, SoS for SoR, Zephyr for BW, food and utility buffs for whatever.

The condi removal is enough for most situations and lightning reflexes keeps you from getting locked down. Just think about your traits when you are fighting, save your pet swaps for when you want quickness to land a maul, rapid fire, fast rez, secure a stomp, etc. If you weapon swap and maul you get a guaranteed remorseless crit and your maul will be ready again in a few seconds. If you have to run you have perma swiftness and remember to trigger quickdraw by opening with Hunter’s shot (aim for npc’s, ambient’s, gates, basically anything without aegis) and Swoop.

Kiliope.2364:

Puck.9612:

chopper.8653:

If you move to servers without an existing OCX pop then have fun recruiting.

Actually that wouldn’t be too hard. A lot of servers have OCX players on them but they are completely unorganized and without a tag they just log off or go PvP or something. Give them a guild and some winnable fights and people will start popping out of the woodwork.

Guilds will just have to be less strict on there recruiting rules and be ready an willing to train up new recruits if this is true.

Yeah it would definitely require a little patience, the ones I’ve encountered during my late night gaming sessions on days off are not the best players, but I’m sure most will get better with someone to show them the ropes.

chopper.8653:

If you move to servers without an existing OCX pop then have fun recruiting.

Actually that wouldn’t be too hard. A lot of servers have OCX players on them but they are completely unorganized and without a tag they just log off or go PvP or something. Give them a guild and some winnable fights and people will start popping out of the woodwork.

sanctuary.1068:

Ok obviously i have to explain it how i would explain to a little kid. You get surprise hit 6 times with skill 1 on engie with a condition build. That means you have 12 stacks of bleed. 12 is quite high and remove quite alot of health every tick. So you try to kite so you dont get more ticks on you, which leads to you cant attack the engie, all you can do is kite or run off from the node until bleed wears off and you have to waste a heal already.

Imagine getting hit by a ranger zerk with longbow (using this as an example because melee doesnt cut it when it comes to zerk you can just run off from melee). So you get surprise hit a few times, lose a bit health, but guess what. You dont have 12 stacks of bleed on you, so you can have a comeback, heal up and blind the ranger and start kiting.

Understand now kids?

Or…. (bear with me because I know this is a crazy concept) you could cleanse/transfer the conditions and then cc and kill your opponent.

A lot of people on here will agree that condition application needs to be adjusted but your post will never receive support because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. When you can’t even tell what’s killing you and you come screaming for a nerf it makes you sound like a spoiled child that throws a tantrum when he doesn’t get his way.

Spend a few weeks playing each of those builds. Learn their strengths and weaknesses and then come back with a real argument.

Kiliope.2364:

BlazeQ.1095:

I expect T3 to be the way you guys go if you do shuffle around, But hope you would also consider T4. Id love to have a few more people around to play with during my normal play times.

That’s the thing I’m not sure of, we want a tier that is stable where the servers don’t change every week. Otherwise we will get gates one week then fights another. I’d like fights every week

Honestly you all could stabilize T4 or T5. The only reason ebay is in any danger of being passed up by DB is because DB is doesn’t have any competition during OCX. Hell, if some of the really big guilds decide to move you could fill in AR, DH, NSP, and EBay to have 6 servers that could fight with each other.

sanctuary.1068:

Stupid has reached a new level. You cant kill someone with skill 1 zerk in the amount of time skill 1 condition can kill you. You dont have a stack of ticking bleeds or poision on you PLUS damage from the actual weapon skill on zerk builds.

So what you are saying is the real problem is the 200 direct dps they are hitting you with when they run condi? K.

sanctuary.1068:

Im not 100% sure of what builds they are but its all condition builds and theyre op. Reason i dont know them is because i dont play them. Yea mesmer condi is op too but i dont face many of them in pvp. And every condi engineer & ranger ive faced have killed me within seconds due to this op crap, bc both classes have skill 1 which inflict condi over and over without breaks.

And the reason why this is a problem unless youre a warrior with immune skills vs condi, is bc you dont get enough time to kill them before youre dead. 10 seconds is about enough to kill you unless you have tons of cleanses.

This may be my favorite post ever. ”I don’t know what their builds are but they killed me so they are op!”

Also condi survival rangers generally run main hand axe/x and sword/x. Neither weapon applies conditions on auto attack. Their only weapon that does is shortbow and that requires them to be flanking you to inflict it’s bleeds. As long as you are facing them their damage is negligible… which you would know…. if you would l2p.

What Arius said is pretty spot on. Only thing I want to add is DB will only be good for you if all you do is solo roam. If you are looking for small groups of skilled roamers to party with then go to a different server, they don’t have any. Even when running the easiest/cheesiest PU, perplexity, condi crap they still can’t handle themselves in a fight.

One other thing to consider is AR doesn’t currently have much ocx coverage (strong euro and NA) so they end up with more variety in their matchups. Might want to consider them if you don’t feel like being locked in 1 tier.

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Hrm… that buff is not a bad idea but the problem with pets goes deeper than this. With all of those selections of differnet pets, they should accommodate different types of builds structures on the Ranger’s part. Right now they do not and too many pets are plainly useless and would never be selected for use under any circumstances other than “I think a pig is funny”.

This definitely isn’t an end all fix for pets, it’s just the low hanging fruit that anet likes to focus on instead of taking the time to really fix something.
As for pigs, if they would just make their forage skill function like steal so you didn’t have to stop everything and pick it up, pigs would start seeing a lot more use. The pets that really suck are devourers.

If you all decide to move to a lower tier make sure you are fighting each other more than doors. No one wants to deal with 4am ppt tryhards carrying servers without a NA presence.

Our pets weren’t buffed, people are just speccing into beastmastery line now since we can fully go into 3 lines. If anything they were kind of nerfed since their condi damage is even weaker than it was before.
Also how was backstab nerfed? I haven’t spent a lot of time on my thief since the trait change but it seemed to me it was hitting just as hard if not harder than it did pre patch.

At the top of the thief forum right now https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/19k-backstab/first#post5399541
That’s nearly a 20k backstab in PvP, imagine how hard it can hit in WvW with the right set up.

I like to run those 3 when dueling, but the majority of the time I run marksmanship, skirmishing, beastmastery with a few shouts, trooper runes and remorseless. The damage is a lot stronger and this set up is actually a lot more survivable in WvW since you aren’t fighting on point and quickdraw helps you outmaneuver people with your double stealth and double leaps.

Darkness.9732:

Puck.9612:

Darkness.9732:

Everything is better than a ranger. We all know that.
If we could count all the players who quitted playing ranger…well you would accept my statement. Since we can’ t count them..there are still some rangers who have ^^ hope^^.
Loose that hope couse the first decent mesmer or ele or thief will stomp you in seconds.

You must have been a pretty crappy ranger if you were dying to thieves. No wonder you rage quit the game.

Said the best ranger in the universe @Puck I bet that you are the typical ranger who in 10 fights gets rekt 9 times and claims to be good^^
If ranger are so good…Can you tell me why in spvp finals or high level matches there are more thieves than rangers?^ Oh sorry my fault ZERO RANGERS.

Somebody sounds a little booty bothered.
The reason thieves are brought over rangers is they have better mobility and access to boon stripping. So basically you are losing your fights against an expert at musical chairs, please keep the salty tears coming.

LegionLord.5392:

So I currently run full ascended berserker for my Ranger in WvW. Is it worth it to mystic forge some armor for valkyrie/cavalier/knight to gain some more survivability? Or is it not worth losing the damage since we can reposition fairly well since I run LB/GS?

No one can answer this for you. Do you feel like you need more survivability? If so then the answer is yes, add some valk/cav.

SkiTz.4590:

Gotchaz.7865:

It’s because Rangers have super fast burst power and AOE and piercing arrows so we can attack lords and hit tons of players making us loot kitten. We also have little to no group utilities to help out a zerg and this game is all about Zergs and who can drop the most combos. I love my Ranger and yes I’m a loot kitten

your not even a good loot tagger with ranger in WvWlol

ya your arrows pierce thats great but requires a proper setup to even hit a ton of targets

your only AOE is barrage.

necros, eles and staff guardians have more AOES, and thus more tagging ability than ranger. Top that off with WAAAAY better group utility/support.

Ranger is awesome for making a party of 5 snipers and all kittenting rapid fire on 1 target at once lol. Now that is their role in backline DPS for WvW zerg lol.

As fun as that is you would be much better off having 5 necro’s dropping wells to kill multiple players.

Darkness.9732:

Everything is better than a ranger. We all know that.
If we could count all the players who quitted playing ranger…well you would accept my statement. Since we can’ t count them..there are still some rangers who have ^^ hope^^.
Loose that hope couse the first decent mesmer or ele or thief will stomp you in seconds.

You must have been a pretty crappy ranger if you were dying to thieves. No wonder you rage quit the game.

expandas.7051:

No, I’m the guy that chases down bad rangers (read: all of them).

Yeah I’ve noticed how your entire map blob will chase a solo roamer from one end of the map to the other.

Toxicity.5392:

People would just use the zoom hack and still have an unfair advantage anyway, which is probably why they gave us the FOV change.

So we are back on the everybody should be able to fly argument? I mean those players clearly have an unfair advantage so why not give it to everyone right? Who cares if they fly into a t3 keep and flip it, you can just fly in and take it back. Let’s keep that karma train rolling!

Jelzouki.4128:

I main necro for the record, barely touch ranger. But it feels weird that ranger pets die so passively, and this needs to be addressed before any other balance issues.

Yup especially with the condi change. The idea of giving pets this buff Playing Favorites has been brought up in the ranger forums. It would make a huge difference in PvP and especially in WvW.

I’d probably swap 1 or 2 trinkets to dire for a little higher vitality. Keeping the bulk of them as apoth will still give you around 300hp a sec.

What you should really consider changing is that cat to a bird. If you go eagle you can keep perma weakness on your opponent, if you go raven or owl you will have an easier time keeping track of your taunt cooldown.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Waveguider.6271:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

No link to a build is included in the post or video. My suggestion would be to do so, allowing people to easily see what is going on with the build. http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/ is the best, intothemists is very clunky.

I cover the build/traits/weapons/sigils/runes in about the first 2 minutes of the video and skill rotations/tips are covered later. The build guide is in video format so I am not going to put it on a website or that defeats the purpose. I am familiar with both those websites to create builds / armour / runes and everything

Waveguider.6271:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

No link to a build is included in the post or video. My suggestion would be to do so, allowing people to easily see what is going on with the build. http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/ is the best, intothemists is very clunky.

I cover the build/traits/weapons/sigils/runes in about the first 2 minutes of the video and skill rotations/tips are covered later. The build guide is in video format so I am not going to put it on a website or that defeats the purpose. I am familiar with both those websites to create builds / armour / runes and everything

Well, to be honest and not trying to offend here, but I don’t want to waste my bandwidth on watching a video when I can look at a build in an editor and easily swap things around in order to give feedback or advice, or tweek the build to suit myself. I usually just open the video page to grab the build link, then close it. Not everyone has super speed internet with unlimited bandwidth.

It doesn’t defeat the purpose at all. It is showing people, in their own time, not yours, what the build entails and how it is setup. It would have taken only a couple of minutes to make a build, since you are familiar with the website.

Having a link to your build on an editor in your video or thread is just a sensible way to present builds to the community.

That is my feedback on that aspect anyway.

^This. When people post videos I take a look at the build, if the build is interesting I watch the video to see their game play. What I don’t do is watch 5 minutes of someone hovering a mouse over skills and traits.