Guild Wars 2

Lazze.9870:

Puck.9612:

I said counter because an ele can screw up a bunch of times and still survive. If the ranger screws up he’s dead.

The dd ele is more forgiving (and finally admittedly by Anet, overtuned) than the ranger, straight up counter isn’t what pops up in my head when I see one. Especially off-node fights.

I should probably add that’s from a PvP perspective, WvW I haven’t touched in a while.

I see a difference between a counter and a hard counter. A hard counter is something like diamond skin ele vs a full condi anything. At similar skill levels the ele will always win that.

I say D/D counters ranger because at similar skill levels you will likely end in a draw or the ele will win after a really long fight because their build is a lot more forgiving and they just get stronger the longer the fight goes on since you can’t strip their boons. It’s not a hard counter because it is possible to win, you just have to seriously outplay them.

Jekkt.6045:

Puck.9612:

Shouldn’t be the case according to whom?

according to common sense and tooltip

The tool tips in this game are horrendous, how many inaccurate and incomplete tool tips have been in the game since the betas?

As for common sense… To me it’s pretty fair that the taunt goes through several forms of defense since it is attached to our pets and it is far from being instant cast. The bird is the only pet that reliably lands the taunt because they tend to stick to the target. Pretty much every other pet has at least a 50% chance of missing as long as the player you are fighting isn’t standing still.

Shouldn’t be the case according to whom?

I pulled off a few 2v1’s yesterday as an uplevel. You just need to secure the stomp so they can’t power rez over and over again. CC the other player, use stealth, stab, etc. to get the stomp off.

I said counter because an ele can screw up a bunch of times and still survive. If the ranger screws up he’s dead.

Shadelang.3012:

I kind of like this idea. though ideally the shouts would be reworked slightly to encourage there use in the first place. But a trait like this would definitely go a long way towards helping out in certain situations. Stab on search & rescue is a kittening must before I take it. either for me or my pet.

I’d still never slot it but it would be awesome to grant stability to everyone when you used the traited search and rescue.

Eurantien.4632:

I would say its the pet. Even without NM or WS ranger is REALLY strong 1 v 1.

Definitely the pet, when used properly and traited. I’m yet again leveling a ranger because I keep moving my alt account and the first trait line I pick up every time is BM. I can’t tell you how funny it is wrecking people as an uplevel. Even pulled off several 1v2’s today. That taunt is ridiculously helpful in a fight.

agreed, bad change

LughLongArm.5460:

Tragic Positive.9356:

LughLongArm.5460:

Nop – D/D celec Ele.

A skilled QuickDraw Power Survivalist can manage to beat a D/D ele.
Not all of the times, but you know where I’m getting at.

Just had a 25 min fight with celec D/D ele on OS, no winnrer. mybe a skilled Quickdraw ranger have enough burst to do it.

A draw is pretty much the best you can hope for if the ele is decent. Their sustain is too high, rangers can’t strip their boons and rangers don’t have a real burst (that isn’t highly telegraphed). Unless they screw up you won’t pump out enough damage if you are facing a good ele.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve killed hundreds of eles but I’ve run across plenty that were unkillable on my ranger. They weren’t exceptional players, hell they were easy bags once I swapped to a class that could strip their boons. Ele just counters ranger at the moment.

I’d also say mesmer is a pretty darn hard fight for rangers but that depends on what builds the ranger and mesmer are running.

I like the idea. Keeping up Perma regen is so easy and passive. I’m all for more active play and better group support.

With boon duration that protection uptime would be pretty darn high, not that I’m complaining…

I kind of think guard and protect me should have their boons switched.

insanemaniac.2456:

Puck.9612:

insanemaniac.2456:

Puck.9612:

A lot of the time we will have 1 guild running defense and upgrades on our bl. They will watch the southern part of the map for activity and have upgrades going on everything at the same time. If this change works the way I fear it does they will only be able to upgrade 1 structure at a time, meaning less populated servers are completely screwed.

shrug

deck out your bank guilds and leave banks with the claims on keeps/towers (and use public tactivation of course). i dont mean to say everyone has a bank, but everyone has a bank and there are hundreds of active people on every server and only 13 objectives to claim on a bl map. personally im gonna have 4 guilds that i know ill be able to use to claim, and the 5th is a big pve guild that prolly wont care.

i feel like there will be 0 issues finding enough guilds to claim everything all the time even on low tiers. the bigger problem will be making sure your guild is completely maxed out, cuz personal banks … well they just dont have the influence income of a large guild, but that system is changing too and well see how hard it is to max a guild out.

So have a bunch of people run through a bunch of pve content to get several guild halls, spend time in several guild halls building upgrades, have in game communication with your guild break down because half the guild are repping alt guilds, all to work around something that currently isn’t a problem…. Sounds perfectly reasonable.

the current system is onerous and backwards and extremely limited. and actually, in game communication wont suffer because HoT is going to improve chats so that youll be able to see all your guild chats at once. secondly, its not like youll stay repping a certain bank guild. the claiming ui tells you what guild youre repping.

in fact, i dont think i can stress enough how important multiguild chat windows is going to be. repping any single guild is already overrated and all the guilds that will kick you for not repping 100% of the time are doing it wrong and need to change their paradigm, and hopefully the chat system improvements will finally kill that bullkitten off.

and you do realize that anet has pretty much always been about getting us to play lots of different parts of the game? the game is huge, and its all there for our enjoyment. guild halls are gonna be a 1 time thing and it wont be drawn out to get one for your bank, unlike, for example, ascended gear acquisition for a primarily wvw player.

your attitude makes me wanna go back to putting all kinds of typos in my posts. kittening kitten.

First I heard about the multi guild chat, that’s nice to hear. Not sure what you meant by that last line but if you have a problem with me feel free to go kitten yourself because I couldn’t care less.

insanemaniac.2456:

Puck.9612:

A lot of the time we will have 1 guild running defense and upgrades on our bl. They will watch the southern part of the map for activity and have upgrades going on everything at the same time. If this change works the way I fear it does they will only be able to upgrade 1 structure at a time, meaning less populated servers are completely screwed.

shrug

deck out your bank guilds and leave banks with the claims on keeps/towers (and use public tactivation of course). i dont mean to say everyone has a bank, but everyone has a bank and there are hundreds of active people on every server and only 13 objectives to claim on a bl map. personally im gonna have 4 guilds that i know ill be able to use to claim, and the 5th is a big pve guild that prolly wont care.

i feel like there will be 0 issues finding enough guilds to claim everything all the time even on low tiers. the bigger problem will be making sure your guild is completely maxed out, cuz personal banks … well they just dont have the influence income of a large guild, but that system is changing too and well see how hard it is to max a guild out.

So have a bunch of people run through a bunch of pve content to get several guild halls, spend time in several guild halls building upgrades, have in game communication with your guild break down because half the guild are repping alt guilds, all to work around something that currently isn’t a problem…. Sounds perfectly reasonable.

insanemaniac.2456:

Puck.9612:

insanemaniac.2456:

Puck.9612:

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Puck.9612:

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Plytas.9102:

Haven’t seen this said anywhere yet. Are existing guid upgrades for WvW still in? Like +5?

Yeah they’re still in, just altered.

“Another big change in the system is that any WvW fort enhancements that were previously purchased for twelve hours at a time have been replaced with a single, sector-wide enhancement that lasts as long as your guild has a claim on the objective. The objective enhancement can be upgraded at your war room to provide more bonuses.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-objective-claiming-in-world-vs-world/

Does this mean you can claim multiple objectives so you can still pick up +5 at camps without losing your claim on a keep?

Nope, only one claim.

“A single guild can only claim one objective per map.”

http://dulfy.net/2015/09/04/gw2-guild-objective-claiming-in-wvw-livestream-notes/

(if you watch the video it’s at about the 6:10sec mark)

That’s pretty terrible. That means your guild has to decide between attacking or upgrading. This needs to be changed.

bruh, u can claim from anywhere on da map… u wil hafta drop ur claim on the keep but u can reclaim as soon as u empty ur camp

Won’t that reset the timer? It said x minutes per upgrade tier. So if you unclaim it will likely stop you from upgrading. I’m going off what I read, I’m posting from my phone so I haven’t watched the video yet.

that would be a pretty silly thing for anet to do and it would irk me to no end, so i dont think thats how it will work. but the vod will not offer confirmation as hugh had 2 guilds claim 2 objectives and didnt drop claim and claim with the other guild and didnt revisit 1 of the objectives to show us if upgrade progress is reset.

I mean… it wouldn’t be the stupidest thing they have done… I really hope this isn’t how it works but it wouldn’t surprise me 1 bit if it is.

A lot of the time we will have 1 guild running defense and upgrades on our bl. They will watch the southern part of the map for activity and have upgrades going on everything at the same time. If this change works the way I fear it does they will only be able to upgrade 1 structure at a time, meaning less populated servers are completely screwed.

I’d wait and see what HoT actually brings. So far there hasn’t been any reason to use defensive stats in PvE, you might be better off with a mix of zerk and sinister.

Spent a few minutes messing around with the build editor and came up with some decent stats for a hybrid build. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8fjEqQJL2tCurAVLGYEqv1X9WuH3OPE4C4yDgS2VBA-TlSAABJt/AFXAAsV+l+RAIgDCg06GwUlA1UCat6OA8AAIFwi6sA-w

Any of that could easily be changed, I was just goofing off.

What ever you need to tell yourselves to justify ganking someone that is clearly dueling instead of waiting your turn to fight them 1v1.

insanemaniac.2456:

Puck.9612:

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Puck.9612:

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Plytas.9102:

Haven’t seen this said anywhere yet. Are existing guid upgrades for WvW still in? Like +5?

Yeah they’re still in, just altered.

“Another big change in the system is that any WvW fort enhancements that were previously purchased for twelve hours at a time have been replaced with a single, sector-wide enhancement that lasts as long as your guild has a claim on the objective. The objective enhancement can be upgraded at your war room to provide more bonuses.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-objective-claiming-in-world-vs-world/

Does this mean you can claim multiple objectives so you can still pick up +5 at camps without losing your claim on a keep?

Nope, only one claim.

“A single guild can only claim one objective per map.”

http://dulfy.net/2015/09/04/gw2-guild-objective-claiming-in-wvw-livestream-notes/

(if you watch the video it’s at about the 6:10sec mark)

That’s pretty terrible. That means your guild has to decide between attacking or upgrading. This needs to be changed.

bruh, u can claim from anywhere on da map… u wil hafta drop ur claim on the keep but u can reclaim as soon as u empty ur camp

Won’t that reset the timer? It said x minutes per upgrade tier. So if you unclaim it will likely stop you from upgrading. I’m going off what I read, I’m posting from my phone so I haven’t watched the video yet.

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Puck.9612:

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Plytas.9102:

Haven’t seen this said anywhere yet. Are existing guid upgrades for WvW still in? Like +5?

Yeah they’re still in, just altered.

“Another big change in the system is that any WvW fort enhancements that were previously purchased for twelve hours at a time have been replaced with a single, sector-wide enhancement that lasts as long as your guild has a claim on the objective. The objective enhancement can be upgraded at your war room to provide more bonuses.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-objective-claiming-in-world-vs-world/

Does this mean you can claim multiple objectives so you can still pick up +5 at camps without losing your claim on a keep?

Nope, only one claim.

“A single guild can only claim one objective per map.”

http://dulfy.net/2015/09/04/gw2-guild-objective-claiming-in-wvw-livestream-notes/

(if you watch the video it’s at about the 6:10sec mark)

That’s pretty terrible. That means your guild has to decide between attacking or upgrading. This needs to be changed.

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Plytas.9102:

Haven’t seen this said anywhere yet. Are existing guid upgrades for WvW still in? Like +5?

Yeah they’re still in, just altered.

“Another big change in the system is that any WvW fort enhancements that were previously purchased for twelve hours at a time have been replaced with a single, sector-wide enhancement that lasts as long as your guild has a claim on the objective. The objective enhancement can be upgraded at your war room to provide more bonuses.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/guild-objective-claiming-in-world-vs-world/

Does this mean you can claim multiple objectives so you can still pick up +5 at camps without losing your claim on a keep?

Do you like to zerg or roam? Mesmer for roaming, necro for zerging. Or you could roam as a necro by going norn and use the snow leopard elite for escaping

EremiteAngel.9765:

I think many of us who frequent WvW would have come across duels happening around the map.

Many duelers will say no interrupting because it is not an honorable thing to do.

But…they are enemies!

what are the situations when you will consider interrupting a duel?

Usually I will interrupt if:

1) they are dueling alone and the enemy is low life then I will help to burst and kill the enemy.

Usually I won’t interrupt if:

1) there are other enemies watching who might attack me if I interrupt.

That is one of the most pathetic things I’ve read on these forums.

The only times it is acceptable to jump in on a duel is if they down your server mate and go in for the stomp, someone else jumps in to 2v1 your server mate, or if the guy from the other server is someone that has interrupted your duels in the past, and in that last scenario you need to apologize and explain to your server mate why you decided to interrupt.

I was just really upset that the underwater form wasn’t a shark with a laser beam on it’s head… Instead they gave us a friggin sea bass. Who the heck wants to be a sea bass?

I can’t really say how rangers will stand up against them until I’ve played the new profession specializations. Right now I have no idea what any of the tells are for the new skills. I haven’t had trouble with any particular profession but people aren’t used to playing them yet. I have found BW to be a great counter to all the evade spam flying around.

SNIEVES.3964:

OK since we have so many people, and a few love there Ranger while others don’t care for them, tell me :
Why did the developers of guild wars 1 or 2 create the ranger?
What is the purpose of this class. ?

That is pretty much what is being asked in this thread. Since after 3 years anet still hasn’t given rangers the tools to be competitive in any game mode what is the purpose of the class? Is it just meant for new and casual players?

why is there so much hate towards the class?
and on the same topic since you think rangers are useless, thieves are usless as well m in pve and in www zergs, lets get rid of them and the ranger, and while you at lets get rid of the necros, becasue there is no love for them in the game as well?

So now we got hard dps, warrior, gurdian ele, oh waite forgot about the mesemers, gert rid of them too, cause only thing they got is teleport, mass invisi, and portal, other than that no sustain, either, hehhe.

This is why I normally avoid the general forums…. it should be renamed to the “open world PvE” forums.

Thieves, necros, and mesmers all have a solid place in WvW and PvP. Thieves and mesmers have a solid place in dungeons. There is no game mode where a ranger is the best choice to bring.

Edit: I see they moved this out of the general forum… not sure if I’m happy about that or not. It means less people making completely irrelevant arguments like how their pet makes RP’ing better, but it also means the thread will receive less attention.

Kaz.5430:

Puck.9612:

Kaz.5430:

There is nothing at all wrong with using a bow and a bear if that’s what you enjoy playing. If anyone has a problem, then it’s ‘their’ problem, and they probably were not worth playing with anyway.

This is the worst kind of attitude. You are being extremely selfish and trying to make it sound like you’re somehow the victim in that scenario.

As are you. Not trying to be combative here, and am using ‘you’ and ‘I’ for the purposes of description rather than accusation, but why are you suddenly a victim because I want to enjoy myself?

Why exactly should my play time be all about your enjoyment and your benefit? ‘That’ is a selfish attitude.

It’s not selfish to want to play a game how I enjoy playing. I’d personally argue that being selfish is expecting me to play a game in a way that I don’t enjoy, because it’s more beneficial to you, and then accusing me of being selfish because I don’t want to.

Now I’m not saying that playing Bearbow is how I’d personally chose to play for enjoyment, I actually dislike the longbow and the brown bear, but this is a casual friendly game that is supposed to provide a method of relaxing from the stresses of the real world. You can complete any content with a brown bear and a longbow, and if that’s what the OP wants to do, then he should just find non-elitist groups to play with. Plenty of them out there.

Go back and read what fluffball said. In dungeons, PvP, and WvW you are part of a team. If I joined a soccer team and decided to kick the ball out of bounds or back at my own goal every chance I got because I found it amusing, would it make the rest of my team selfish for not wanting to play with me?

People can do whatever the hell they want in the open world but if you join a team game and work against your team, you are the one being the kitten.

Wanze.8410:

Puck.9612:

Wanze.8410:

Vayne.8563:

Fluffball.8307:

Vayne.8563:

The top 20% PvE tournaments? lol okay then.

Are you saying that the top 20% of the playerbase appear in those tournaments. Maybe you’re talking about the top 2-3%?

Would you feel more comfortable asking the hundreds of competitive players in the dungeon forums about this? Let’s count the guilds that run rangers for competition? DnT? SC? KING?

This conversation is over. You’ve never heard of what I’m talking about in any of the 3 formats.

So let’s say hundreds of people talk in the dungeon forums and there are a hunded thousand rangers playing the game.

What percentage do you calculate that as. Your issues may be real, but making up numbers isn’t going to help your cause.

And if this a dungeon specific problem, OP should post in the dungeon forums, maybe those dungeon cracks can help OP in finding a viable group composition for rangers.

If you actually read what he said you would see that this isn’t a dungeon specific problem. The problem is rangers don’t have the tools to be competitive in any game mode.

This is a fact. You all seem to be ignoring what the op is saying and just responding with, ” but it’s fun to RP with and open world pve with so the class is fine”

OK, maybe then all who play ranger are simply not skilled enough, thats what i read from it.

It has nothing to do with personal skill. If you take the greatest driver in the world and stick him in a go kart is it the drivers fault he can’t compete in a nascar race? Does that make the go kart any less fun to drive?

Wanze.8410:

Vayne.8563:

Fluffball.8307:

Vayne.8563:

The top 20% PvE tournaments? lol okay then.

Are you saying that the top 20% of the playerbase appear in those tournaments. Maybe you’re talking about the top 2-3%?

Would you feel more comfortable asking the hundreds of competitive players in the dungeon forums about this? Let’s count the guilds that run rangers for competition? DnT? SC? KING?

This conversation is over. You’ve never heard of what I’m talking about in any of the 3 formats.

So let’s say hundreds of people talk in the dungeon forums and there are a hunded thousand rangers playing the game.

What percentage do you calculate that as. Your issues may be real, but making up numbers isn’t going to help your cause.

And if this a dungeon specific problem, OP should post in the dungeon forums, maybe those dungeon cracks can help OP in finding a viable group composition for rangers.

If you actually read what he said you would see that this isn’t a dungeon specific problem. The problem is rangers don’t have the tools to be competitive in any game mode.

This is a fact. You all seem to be ignoring what the op is saying and just responding with, ” but it’s fun to RP with and open world pve with so the class is fine”

I run this pretty regularly http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRnUqA9Ci9rAusActgh/gaf9MIA+04HGeefz3N4iLqqC-TpBFABCcEAEvMABXAgi2fIhDBAAPAAA It’s pretty much the same build I use for WvW roaming except there I can min max stats with valk/cav/zerk and asasins gear. (I know that’s not how you spell asasin but I had to work around the filter)

Depending on my team comp I may swap SoR for SoS and I go back and forth between zephyr and BW. Quickdraw makes direct damage very easy to negate, if they have stab up you double up on hunters shot or swoop (don’t have to swoop away, you can just use it for the evade to avoid big hits), if no stab just double up on PBS and counter attack. If they are glassy and you are in a position to burn them down, quickness or BW pretty much guarantees you will land your hit and quickdraw gives you 2 opportunities to do so. Plus furious grip with remorseless is just such a good combo.

EthanLightheart.9168:

I just tried out the nonexistent druid specialization and must say, it’svery cool. Do you like it as well?

Enjoy it now, you know it will be nerfed soon enough.

bloodpyrope.8630:

Power ranger is pretty good for offense there, especially with piercing arrows down a lane! But not just power is good, condi trap is pretty amazing!

I play on the defensive side were you can set traps along the lane and have it ready and recharged by the time the first doorbreakers get there. NPC’s and even heroes melt pretty fast to condis and they never even have a chance to make it to the door.

Yup, traps are insanely strong there since npc’s are dumb and follow the same path every time. I just wish the game mode was more fun, I get burnt out on it so fast. They should just copy FA and JQ from GW1 and add that to the game. They could put all 3 in a rotation if they wanted to.

ragnarokda.1805:

Holland.9351:

http://i.imgur.com/w3jCZWC.gif

God I loved that show.

I loved the first few seasons/series, I didn’t even finish the last one.

Just want to point out even though AR was outnumbered in fights all night long they still still cowboyed up and jumped into every fight and they came out 1st in PPT this morning thanks to their dedicated roamers and havockers.

A few of the servers AR faces are completely carried by their SEA guilds. If you are a SEA player and you transfer to AR you will have players to fight against but you won’t have to worry about carrying the server, AR still has a strong enough presence throughout the rest of the day and more importantly it has players always willing to jump into a fight.

Iavra.8510:

No, i’m not missing the point. If you are outmanned to an extend that every exit is swarmed with enemies and you can’t get enough people to push through any of it, why should the game help you?

I think when I am solo roaming on a map and I have the outnumbered buff up the legendary defenders should become legendary attackers. They could follow me around and kill anyone that gets close to me so I can fully focus on PvD’ing without the worry of virtual death.

Liston.9708:

Puck.9612:

Son of a kitten…. I kittening knew it. I have had WvW armor clogging up my inventory for the past couple years and I knew as soon as I deleted it this would happen, and I finally gave in and deleted it earlier this week….

My lawn could really use some rain, maybe I should go wash my car to make that happen as well.

Thank you ! Can you delete all your non stackable items that should be (birthday instant level 20, mawwdrey components, etc….)

Well I did delete the level 20 ones since I now have level 30 ones….. so I’m sure it will be announced soon that you can use them together to get to level 50

Bryzy.2719:

Puck.9612:

Bryzy.2719:

Sirius.4510:

Though, I uh… don’t know if this thread is about those sorts of problems. Seems like it’s mostly a celebration of people who are doing it wrong?

Of course it is, ‘cos as any gw2 nerd will tell you on here you’re playing wrong or you’re not using the right build if you have problems!

Only when someone is complaining about having problems that are mostly caused by the ineffectual build they are using, or by the inefficient way they choose to play.
Everyone here will agree there is a problem when you list an actual ranger problem, but we get too many bearbows coming onto the forum complaining about getting kicked from a dungeon party because they insisted on sitting at max range with a longbow. That’s not a ranger problem, that’s a ”I make stupid decisions” problem.

Please leave my thread. These are fun “moans” about stuff that happens during gameplay. Your critique on others’ gameplay is redundant in here, it’s for people to share their whimsical moments regardless of how much of a “noob” they are or how much they need to “L2P”, and it’s to see the funnier side of playing Ranger. I for one enjoy occasionally go all-out full zerk sniper at the back of zergs, but my main build is a settler-based condi bunker. If you’re not going to play along then leave as you’re trying to de-rail my thread.

Make me

Kaz.5430:

There is nothing at all wrong with using a bow and a bear if that’s what you enjoy playing. If anyone has a problem, then it’s ‘their’ problem, and they probably were not worth playing with anyway.

This is the worst kind of attitude. You are being extremely selfish and trying to make it sound like you’re somehow the victim in that scenario.

@Op
Open world PvE- play whatever you want, it is stupid easy. I could play weaponless and naked and get by without a problem in the open world.

Dungeons- you want to try and run a build that will compliment your party. The best thing you can bring as a ranger is spotter, frost spirit and a melee weapon. Sitting at range is not only a dps loss, it also hurts your party because you are causing the mobs to spread out making the fights take longer.

PvP- The main thing you need to understand is holding the points is way more important than getting kills. Ignore your personal score, if you see someone from your team capping an empty point don’t jump on with him, move on and help out your teammates somewhere else. This is a solid an pretty safe build to start out with http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRjEqQDLWyCusAVLGyEKPxTgG/n8I/x7kNAOgCWVA-TJBFABCcJAEvMgc7PAwTAAA

WvW Roaming- You need to balance your build around being able to quickly flip camps, be strong in a fight, and be able to escape when you need to. You can get by fine with the PvP build, it’s strong in a fight but it’s not great for disengaging. I personally run this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRnUqA9Ci9rAusActgh/gaf9FIA+04HOaefz3N4gVfeA-TVTBABWqOSh6AEVlgHuAAmpEMijAwVKz8UFDsUagnmAq2fYhDBAAPAACBYeMA-w

WvW Zerging- Organized guild groups will have a build they want you to run, or they may need you to run a different profession completely. For pug zergs you might want to run lead the wind for piercing arrows, but you have to be careful with that because you could end up killing yourself to retaliation when using barrage or rapid fire. This is how I would tweak my build for the pug zerg http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRnUqA9Ci9rAusActgBChaL9Aoq/voG65eeXhU4gVfeA-TVTBABWqOSh6AEVlgHuAAmpEMijAwVKz8UFDsUagnmAq2fYhDBAAPAACBYeMA-w

http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki is great starting place for builds for every profession . Take a look at what they have and then adjust them to suit your needs and playstyle.

Son of a kitten…. I kittening knew it. I have had WvW armor clogging up my inventory for the past couple years and I knew as soon as I deleted it this would happen, and I finally gave in and deleted it earlier this week….

My lawn could really use some rain, maybe I should go wash my car to make that happen as well.

Jethro.8725:

Going out other exits without a commander, good luck,

Pretty much perfectly sums up the type of people that complain about spawn camping…

Bryzy.2719:

Sirius.4510:

Though, I uh… don’t know if this thread is about those sorts of problems. Seems like it’s mostly a celebration of people who are doing it wrong?

Of course it is, ‘cos as any gw2 nerd will tell you on here you’re playing wrong or you’re not using the right build if you have problems!

Only when someone is complaining about having problems that are mostly caused by the ineffectual build they are using, or by the inefficient way they choose to play.
Everyone here will agree there is a problem when you list an actual ranger problem, but we get too many bearbows coming onto the forum complaining about getting kicked from a dungeon party because they insisted on sitting at max range with a longbow. That’s not a ranger problem, that’s a ”I make stupid decisions” problem.

Sirius.4510:

I don’t usually reserve space specifically for it, but thanks to Signet of the Hunt I swap skills routinely in WvW anyway… so if I see a mesmer or thief coming in by themselves and have had time to properly wake up, yep, Sic ’Em is going on there.

My own personal “#RangerProblems” is that I still can’t figure out how to get a hawk to reliably activate swiftness off nearby ambient creatures without hitting them and forcing me into combat. Oh I well.

Though, I uh… don’t know if this thread is about those sorts of problems. Seems like it’s mostly a celebration of people who are doing it wrong?

Killing ambients only puts you in combat for a second since they die in one hit, they are great for triggering clarion bond, quick draw, and swiftness from birds.

Erbage.7290:

Devona’s Rest really should just be shut down or merged in with eradon terrace. DR has no wvw community. There are a couple pug commanders and a few really really small guilds. Reset night we try to make an apperance usually get steam rolled by the third server that isn’ ET then pretty much make no showing the rest of the week and ET now even beats us in score. Have to many guildmates that are not gonna pay gems to transfer so I have been offically screwed for awhile now. We are still considered a Medium population server though lol thanks anet.

I’ve been on DR a long time and recent months have gotten pretty rough with guilds transferring out. It’s getting tough even for roamers and small guilds when it’s typically 10 vs 35. IMO – The bottom 6 servers in NA should be merged and you’d still be lucky to be competitive in Silver.
Most folks are just hanging on to see what happens with the HoT expansion and influx of players.
Or as an option, make tranfers free across the board for a month to see how things shake out. Would be interesting…

unless merging those server miraculously gave them off hours coverage they would still get destroyed in silver.

Sina.9208:

nacario.9417:

It is to my knowledge that traps may not be as good for pvp, since u can no longer throw them, meaning u need target to move at your feet.
After the june revamp patch the traditional longbow ranger has more variants and is quite a strong contender. Both LB/GS and LB/sword&dagger are viable options on a marauder amu (SPvP) or full zerker in WvW or with mix of either Knights/valk.
Traits makes much more sense now and it is harder to go with something that is “wrong”. Just read through em. Personally I love Beastly Warden which works great on bird pets and open up a new mechanic you havent seen before.

Trap ranger is one of the strongest, if not the strongest pvp ranger spec right now. You may not throw them anymore, but at least they do real dmg now.

Don’t over sell it.
Traps work well in lower ranked PvP but aren’t very effective when you get matched up against more experienced players. They are also decent in WvW if they compliment your party comp. They are fantastic for preventing enemies from power rezzing downed players or stomping one of your allies and if you can immobilize them in your fire trap and bonfire you will do some serious damage.

Jay.7546:

Puck.9612:

Jay.7546:

Iavra.8510:

Your spawn has 3 exits, use a different one.

I’m sorry, you must have mistakenly written on the wrong topic. This is not “Are there other exits from spawn.” I mentioned that in the body already and yes anyone who plays WvW knows about them.

The topic here is increasing the range and effectiveness of the Legendary Defenders. And limiting or removing another servers ability to drop siege on the path from spawn to the keep. It would remove a nasty part of the game that adds absolutely nothing positive.

And what would that change? People would just spawn camp a little further back. Quit relying on npc’s to carry you, if you are so outnumbered that you can’t push out on 1 map, even with the help of razer, you have 3 other maps to choose from and each of them have 3 exits.

Oh lord you really missed the whole purpose of this thread, please read whats being discussed or don’t comment. This thread, in case you missed it, is about increasing the effectiveness and range of Legendary Defenders thus eliminating the BS act of spawn camping.

It’s not about how many exits there are from spawn. It’s not about bringing the fights to spawn because someone is too lazy to run the map. And FYI you don’t really get bags when spawn camped. Don’t tell me you do either. It’s not about NPCs carrying anyone or the need for them to do so. People play GW2 and go into WvW because it’s a great game and trolls at spawn was not what the Devs had in mind. Otherwise why would they block siege from being placed in spawn or why would they place Legendary Defenders at the gates who can one shot you?

Best comment yet was having Siegerazer blast out the front of spawn and wreck anything in his path. Add that the Legendary Defenders have increased range and bye bye trolls spawn camping.

Has nothing to do with PVE. But has everything to do with making a better experience and game. If you think PVE is a Legendary blasting some kitten spawn camper or Siegerazer clearing a path then you need to see what PVE is all about, that’s not it. Just like Wvw is not about being trebbed and sieged in your spawn regardless of how many exits.

sigh….. okay, for arguments sake let’s say you extend the defenders range another 1000 units. Why exactly would this fix anything? Players would still spawn camp you, they would just be a little further back.

Or are you asking that you get a clear path all the way to your keep making it impossible for your enemies to attack your keep from spawn side?

You are right about one thing, I rarely get bags when being spawn camped because I go out and /bow to see if any of them have the balls to duel and it’s bad form to stomp people in a duel. If they won’t duel and there is to many of them to break up I don’t charge into them over and over feeding them bags, I go to their bl and start flipping camps, tapping keeps, snagging towers, etc.

They aren’t going to sit there for long if they are losing stuff in their bl and you aren’t feeding them bags. Use a little common sense.

Holland.9351:

Not sharing your build because popular builds used to get nerfed.

They were just nerfing the stuff that worked to promote build variety, or as I like to call it, giving it the shortbow treatment.

I’ve found really good roaming outside of NA prime, plenty of 1v1’s and small scale stuff. Can’t really comment on large scale stuff or how regular the pug tags are because I pretty actively avoid that during off hours.

baylock.1703:

Top tier servers are full free players will join eny server what’s not full and balenciaga wvw like this I do not like they way you are thinking of them as resorses.

Then think of it as an opportunity for new players to experience what WvW offers throughout all tiers so they can make an informed decision once they are ready to buy the game. Does that help?

lordkrall.7241:

Yeah, because we all remember how much people loved the last special event they gave us to shake things up a bit…

I think the reaction was appropriate for that “event”

The golem event completely broke WvW. Events need to be things like implementing PPK and reducing the PPT for a week.

Shortbow just needs to be reworked. The weapon was nerfed hard in order to make longbow more appealing, and it was recently nerfed again with the condi change. Bleeding for hybrid builds isn’t nearly as effective anymore and the positional restrictions hurts it for straight condi builds.

Crippling shot is terrible and needs to be changed to pretty much anything. Maybe something like brutal strike where you and your pet both do a heavy damage hit. Something like that would synergize well with concussion shot in a MoC build.
Poison volley is counter intuitive since it requires you to be in melee range to land the hits.
Quick shot needs something more… like super speed, quickness, or add cripple and torment to the attack.
The auto attack needs to lose the flanking requirement, maybe let it cycle between cripple and bleeds.

Or just scrap the whole thing and focus more on adding a bunch of interrupt skills. Bring back that GW1 flavor.

Junkpile.7439:

Puck.9612:

Junkpile.7439:

EotM would scare new players away. They would get spawn camped and think that WvW is too hardcore. Better not let them go EotM before they have played normal softcore mode 100 ranks.

Sigh… You really need a new shtick, this one is beyond boring. I know you’re all about ”low quality trolling” but at least change it up every once in awhile. You are becoming as repetitive as mr. ”no challenge, no risk = no fun”

Truth often is boring. No idea why you think that i am trolling.

Zzzzz try harder please

Junkpile.7439:

EotM would scare new players away. They would get spawn camped and think that WvW is too hardcore. Better not let them go EotM before they have played normal softcore mode 100 ranks.

Sigh… You really need a new shtick, this one is beyond boring. I know you’re all about ”low quality trolling” but at least change it up every once in awhile. You are becoming as repetitive as mr. ”no challenge, no risk = no fun”