Hi, I just, i just dont know that,
some famous wvw player of twitch seem loving dueling in wvw, but i just cannot get it. winning a duel in wvw rewards a lot than zerging in wvw?Thank you very much!
Not exactly sure what you are asking here. If you are asking why people duel instead of zerging it’s because it’s fun and takes a lot more skill.
Yeah we are pretty securely placed in T5. We’ll likely end up passing DH sometime soon even though they managed to get a decent amount of glicko points during this stupid golem event. But T5 isn’t nearly as crowded as T3+, specially during those hours.
I have an alt account in T2 and I much prefer the T5 experience. Much better roaming/skirmishing during off hours and then the guild groups and pug blobs come out during primetime.
If the OP is really looking to make an impact he will be much more successful doing so on a T5 server where a 10-15 man groups actions will really be felt. And even in that time frame there is always people to fight. A few of the servers we go up against get the majority of their PPT in that time slot.
Like LughLongArm said, I’m a big fan of the eagle in this build. The blind/weakness spam is incredibly strong vs power builds. The only downside is you will end up spamming beastly warden off cooldown instead of using it tactically.
If you observe the patch notes from the last 2 years, you will see ranger is one of the class which got the most buffs.
Just to list a few:
-longbow dmg buff
-GS dmg buff
-reduce dc on shouts
-entangle reduced cd to 60s
-reduce the cd on signets
-warhorn cd reduction
-axe might on autoatck
-countless trait buffs
-etc…So you went through all the countless patch notes the last two years in detail to come up with that conclusion
I play this game since 2013. During that time I’ve read pretty much all class balance patch notes.
Yes, ranger is one class has been getting constant buffs, patch after patch. Compare the today’s ranger with the 2.5 years ago ranger. Now look at classes like thief, ele, guard, that are always getting nerfs….
I compared Thief, Ele and Guard from 2012 and 2013 to today.
They’re pretty much the same.
Thief got huge dmg nerfs on a lot of skills. You can’t crit on steal anymore. Watch those videos of people 2shoting players in 1 second before backstab nerf.
Ranger: buff after buff.
Ranger lost something like 20-30% damage from traits/modifiers, not that it matters for either class in PvP. Thieves still have a stronger burst and the mobility, boon steal, and disengage that rangers lack.
Hmm, isn’t that the point of a ranger…RANGE…R
I’ll trade my RF with your Hundred Blades any day of the week.
L2P Sonnn.
Ranger means ranger, aka wanderer or rover. The whole misconception that it derives from ranged combat is just that.. a misconception.
Not a misconception. I think Anet defines what the class entails:
“Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.”
Never mind the fact that the ranger archetype in fantasy rpg’s (not pen and paper) are almost always archers or heavily focused on bows, nearly all minion classes tend to be ranged because why bother if all are in melee, and the Ranger is one of the few if not the only class that has an entire trait line named after a very specific style of combat (Markmanship).
God… who cares? Why the hell does this come up in 90% of the discussions. The class should be balanced around the other classes and the game, not around whether Ranger means ranged combat or not.
We just received a crap load of nerfs because anet wanted to focus on what thematically fits the ranger in their minds instead of actually trying to balance the class. All this stupid RANGEr discussion does is encourage that kind of behavior.
I really appreciate the shortbow buffs we got that decreased the attack speed and range, or the more recent buffs to spirits, traps (healing spring…. sigh), off hand weapons, condi removal, etc.
Sword/x thief is actually a much tougher fight, but that’s because they tend to be better players than condi or dagger/x thieves.
But in my usual fights against thieves I beat them with the GS but usually kill them with the longbow when they try to run because they lost the fight in melee range.
If you are willing to pugmand you can try out AR. That’s pretty much the one time slot where we lack a regular commander or have guild groups running. But I’ve had a few guildies tag up during that time on rare occasions and they always end up with a decent size group.
Well I have been sorta kinda unofficially boycotting golem week.
^This. I’ll be playing WvW again when the bullkitten is over but anet isn’t getting a dime out of me until something changes. I’m not expecting a WvW overhaul or anything, I just want to see some of the bugs and balance issues addressed and I want to see some actual kittening communication with the WvW community.
I’ve barely played WvW this week because of how boring and broken it is atm. So I haven’t accidentally gotten the bug like other people have, if I did get it I wouldn’t go out of my way to remove it. It’s not exactly an unfair advantage when people are running around in omegas 2 shotting players.
During the 30 min I hopped on for last I saw groups of omegas stealth bombing up levels. Any time I killed a golem the player would pop out at full health and build another while in stealth.
The double damage boost for players is the least broken thing about this stupid ”event”
Pets are only receiving half the stats they used to get from the beast mastery line. Anet said the other half would become baseline but that hasn’t happened.
.Really? If true that is pretty severe.
One thing I would like to see is the remaining pet related traits bundled into the BM line, basically as standard (without having to “pick” them) since we now have to go fully into any particular tree.
Yup they actually just made a comment about it on the bug forum. Apparently they will start working on it “soon”…. so probably another 6 months or so.
I think they should take at least a month off of working on HoT to fix the problems they created since the trait change. I sure as hell won’t be pre-ordering anything while the game is in such a broken and unbalanced state. The longer they ignore the problems they created the more likely I am to move on to another game.
I’m going to have to agree with random. If this is a bug then anet needs to come here and make an announcement.
You can’t argue that it’s common sense that people should know it’s a bug because look at the absolute stupidity of this event. Common sense tells me giving golems the super charge buff and making them cost zero supply is moronic. If they are going to let that happen in WvW this week then who can say what is a bug and what’s not?
As a customer I would much rather they focus on fixing the current problems instead of spending time on something that doesn’t even have a release date at the moment.
I will not be buying anything while the game is in such a broken and unbalanced state. If it’s left this way too long there is a good chance I will move on.
I’d also really like to see every pet available in WvW the same way it is in PvP. No other class has to do a PvE scavenger hunt to have access to their class mechanic.
I wonder what the opponent can to do the auto attacking longbow ranger
Judging by what I read on the forums the only thing you can do vs an auto attacking ranger is stand perfectly still in an open area…. maybe turn your back to them so they get a higher crit chance.
I work in customer service as well, and I personally do not think this is how you get things changed. You do get bad attention though. If someone demanded that people be fired simply because people didn’t like something the company put out, you and I would be out of jobs.
I will just have to respectfully agree to disagree.
People should pop over to the thread that they are looking at requesting thoughts on WvW events and put up some constructive feed back there.
Anet has shown us they don’t give two kittens about constructive criticism or discussing ideas. What they do respond to are the major kitten storms that threaten their bottom line. Look at the no white swords, the colored commander tags, and the expansion without a character slot fiascos.
If anet doesn’t want this kind of reaction then they need to show their player base that they want to communicate with us instead of ignoring us and disregarding us as the minority. Plenty of people warned them that this event was going to be a disaster, if they actually communicated with us we could have come up with suggestions on how to minimize the problems, such as confining the event to EotM and turning off glicko for the week.
Their worse reaction was when people bumped threads about stuff they promise for a year earlier, like the returned of the orbs. Then they were surprised about us telling them we were not happy that they didn’t implement the CDI ideas after all that time. So much good ideas were proposed and nothing got done beside the 3 tags colors.
Don’t get greedy. They are discussing about guild commander tags! If they implement this, it should be enough for another year with the new maps coming along.
Guild commander tags coming soon! Get them now for the pre-order price of 500g per character!
I work in customer service as well, and I personally do not think this is how you get things changed. You do get bad attention though. If someone demanded that people be fired simply because people didn’t like something the company put out, you and I would be out of jobs.
I will just have to respectfully agree to disagree.
People should pop over to the thread that they are looking at requesting thoughts on WvW events and put up some constructive feed back there.
Anet has shown us they don’t give two kittens about constructive criticism or discussing ideas. What they do respond to are the major kitten storms that threaten their bottom line. Look at the no white swords, the colored commander tags, and the expansion without a character slot fiascos.
If anet doesn’t want this kind of reaction then they need to show their player base that they want to communicate with us instead of ignoring us and disregarding us as the minority. Plenty of people warned them that this event was going to be a disaster, if they actually communicated with us we could have come up with suggestions on how to minimize the problems, such as confining the event to EotM and turning off glicko for the week.
Their worse reaction was when people bumped threads about stuff they promise for a year earlier, like the returned of the orbs. Then they were surprised about us telling them we were not happy that they didn’t implement the CDI ideas after all that time. So much good ideas were proposed and nothing got done beside the 3 tags colors.
You forgot to mention how we (just the WvW forum) started getting in trouble for bumping threads.
This is why I hate whenever someone comes on here and says the devs would post more if we weren’t so hostile. This is the atmosphere they created through their own actions.
It would take minimal effort on their part to change it, instead they continue to remain silent which further enforces the idea that they don’t give a kitten about WvW and are purposefully trying to destroy the little bit of competition that remains. It would be much easier for them if the only people left in it were the PvE players they believe us all to be, who only care about the karma train.
I work in customer service as well, and I personally do not think this is how you get things changed. You do get bad attention though. If someone demanded that people be fired simply because people didn’t like something the company put out, you and I would be out of jobs.
I will just have to respectfully agree to disagree.
People should pop over to the thread that they are looking at requesting thoughts on WvW events and put up some constructive feed back there.
Anet has shown us they don’t give two kittens about constructive criticism or discussing ideas. What they do respond to are the major kitten storms that threaten their bottom line. Look at the no white swords, the colored commander tags, and the expansion without a character slot fiascos.
If anet doesn’t want this kind of reaction then they need to show their player base that they want to communicate with us instead of ignoring us and disregarding us as the minority. Plenty of people warned them that this event was going to be a disaster, if they actually communicated with us we could have come up with suggestions on how to minimize the problems, such as confining the event to EotM and turning off glicko for the week.
This is a game, and it’s an event in a game, get over it
everyone so serious.
Until you get 10K Life Blasted by a Necro, 30K kill-shot by a Warrior, and 20K backstabbed by a Thief, then you’ll know why this event fails as much as it does.
guys you can cut about each number in half xD
e.g. thiefs max dmg with a backstab on a full zerk squishy target is about 10k, unless you run full sigil build, then it’s 13k
congrats xDYes normally, but thanks to the golem bug people are dishing out backstabs close to 20k
yeah ok that’s true, but the golem event is over now ain’kitten :/
nope, this stupid crap is running through friday
This is a game, and it’s an event in a game, get over it
everyone so serious.
Until you get 10K Life Blasted by a Necro, 30K kill-shot by a Warrior, and 20K backstabbed by a Thief, then you’ll know why this event fails as much as it does.
guys you can cut about each number in half xD
e.g. thiefs max dmg with a backstab on a full zerk squishy target is about 10k, unless you run full sigil build, then it’s 13k
congrats xD
Yes normally, but thanks to the golem bug people are dishing out backstabs close to 20k
Maybe because the players simply doesn’t believe to rangers or they are just bad playing it. I will still repeat it. Ranger is one of the best classes according me. Most ppl just having no clue how to use it.
I am not gonna argue with you or with anyone about how to play pvp. As for me the most important factor in pvp is 1v1 anyway, since in 3 points game you mostlikely fight on 2 nodes 1v1.
But back to ranger. I can’t see what other classes have while ranger doesn’t. Ranger can support your teams as any other class or even better, while still be one of the best 1v1 class.
Other classes that compete for the same roll i.e. thieves and mesmers both have boon stripping, better mobility through porting, better burst damage, and high amounts of stealth for disengaging/rezzing.
Plus they don’t lose a percentage of their damage because it’s tied to A.I. with terrible pathing.
Ranger is extremely fun to play and it’s decently strong in 1v1’s (depending on the build you are fighting) but it isn’t close to being competitive when facing organized teams.
Well, bird pets hit me for 4k+ and the traited taunt is unevadable, unblockable and even prevents weaponswap…
The trait hasn’t been unevadable for 2 weeks. They fixed that without fixing the bug that keeps it from triggering while the ranger is downed, or fixing the missing pet stats.
Pets are only receiving half the stats they used to get from the beast mastery line. Anet said the other half would become baseline but that hasn’t happened.
Pets have also been hit very hard by the condi change, even with high vitality pets empathic bond is now useless because of burn stacks.
I’ve actually started running trooper runes with guard, heal as one, and rampage as one (or whatever they call it now).
The low cool down shouts are the only condi removal that work for the pets, plus the Perma protection and regen help keep the pets alive. It also frees me up from having to spec into wilderness survival so I’m able to pick up spotter, quick draw and remorseless.
This is the single worst event I’ve seen in this game. I just fell asleep in EB…nodded off and then logged off.
Bad, Anet, bad. Not sure what your intention was here, but it’s time to throw in the towel and remove this garbage. “Bad” doesn’t even begin to describe it…
I took an uplevel on my alt account to EotM and fell asleep and ran off the edge… I don’t understand how anyone can enjoy running around in circles for hours.
So I have been out working during the whole day, but it seems like ANET completely ignored the countless requests from the community to stop this event earlier or at least shift this to EoTM only, or, at the bare minimum, fix the Golem Buff exploit so that if we have to live the horror of this event, we at least live it without exploits….
But nothing, nothing at all?
Man, at this point I wonder if ANET even knows they have a forum in their website…..
“who plays wvw”? see> https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Who-plays-WvW-only/page/4#post5301422
You obviously don’t play WvW since you keep posting the same things over and over in various topics..
And why are you replying to me “if i obviously don’t play WvW”?
(If you did research: you would find evidence i check in wvw today and witness the problems)
By the way,
It has been the same topics for 3 years+, what “various topics”?
Oh you checked in? That’s clearly the same thing as being someone that regularly plays WvW. My research shows you have said multiple times in the past that you no longer play WvW, it also shows you spam pointless drivel every time you start typing.
I’m starting to think the Ranger forums are full of paranoid people who think every other player in the game is a Thief who wants to nerf them.
Because whenever someone points out something about Rangers, the responses are pretty much only “YES BUT THIEF HAS BACKSTAB”, as if that’s a valid response to every argument one can make about Rangers.@Justine & Puck: Congrats, you greatly contributed to this thread with your sarcasm. You both gain 2 sarcasm points!
On a serious note, because I’m not a troll, I obviously meant power Rangers only use LB. Are you happy now? Are you prepared to go back to your den now that you’re fed?Comes into ranger forum telling rangers not to respond, calls people idiots…. nope not a troll at all.
puck do you have problems reading or understanding the english language?
Nope, not at all. The troll OP said both of these things if you actually bothered reading the posts. You know what else I don’t have a problem with? Killing longbow rangers when I play my thief. You know why? Because I play every profession and don’t rely on stealth to get me out of every situation.
If a ranger starts channeling rapid fire I will interrupt him, LoS him, block, reflect, or close the gap and dodge through him to break it. You on the other hand jump into stealth, eat the rapid fire and then complain that it’s not fair that they won’t change a game mechanic because you make scrub decisions.
Then stick to clicking the +1 button on the side of the post..
And what does that do?
The devs dont even bother looking at our posts, so why would they bother with +1 posts?
And how do we see how many others have +1 a post? Only people who made the post can see if their post was +1, and even then they cannot see how many people did!
The +1 feature of this forum is as about as useful as it’s search feature.
What good does it do to quote a post and post nothing at all? He literally just reposted the post above his…. it’s just more of his worthless forum spam.
kitten this bullkitten I’m going to reinstall GW1 and do some FA or JQ even if it’s dead it will be more fun that this BS
That’s pretty darn tempting. I really miss FA. They should replace that boring stronghold map with FA.
It’s definitely broken but is it really any more broken than having golems that do double damage?
you actually have to -try- to get this buff on you without being in a golem so yes, it is most certainly an exploit.
Not true, plenty of people have gotten it accidentally by trying to hop in the same golem at the same time, and apparently some people have gotten it from just killing golems.
I honestly don’t care about people using this bug, the whole week is kittened anyway. If these bugged players spoil the k-train experience it’s no skin off my back. Maybe it will convince anet to end this crap early.
Cant wait to see anet squirm when camelot unchained is released
Yeah that will be when they finally get around to paying attention to WvW. Unfortunately they are so clueless they will screw it up as badly as this event.
Pretty pathetic that there still isn’t an official response to this yet.
Switch classes honestly.
You are doing yourself and others around you a disservice by being a ranger.
While it WAS a fun class for me, its completely ineffecient compared to other classes.Rangers are mediocre at everything, great at nothing, terrible at nothing. Just flat out mediocre.
If thats what you want, go for it.
I’ll enjoy my ele as my new main for now =)
I started playing a mesmer and was floored by how easy everything felt. Damage was just as good, if not better, with lower quality gear, I’m more survivable, and holy melandru I can get 22 unbroken seconds of stealth…why?
It hurts me to have to virtually abandon my main ranger that I’ve been loving since the original beta but daaaammmnnnn…
It was in response to this….
He’s not wrong though.
Ranger is still my main and I have no problem killing people but mesmer is faceroll easy. Only thing he was wrong about is the stealth duration, you can stack way more than 22 seconds, at least twice as much.
I don’t play ranger because it’s the best class at everything, I play it because it is the most fun. That doesn’t change the fact anet screwed up a bunch of stuff recently and don’t seem overly concerned with fixing any of it.
Has anet made rangers ez mode yet?
Fixed your title. If it takes any effort into playing then its not worth it and needs a buff. I have 0 problems as a lb ranger. The only problem i have is against d/d ele, warriors who pop rampagers and i cant kite (already used cds), and reflect mesmers. If your struggling against anything else as a LB ranger please put the time into it, or roll a different class. LB ranger has some of the most consistent dps in the game, paired with GS has the burst to finish off a enemy. So tired of the “RANGER NEED BUFF” posts. I would love a buff, but then all the bandwagon boiz would come to ranger and people would complain.
TL;DR – Put the effort into learning the build/class before you complain please….. (if you dont believe me find me in game. Padapwn.5924)
Did you read the opening post or just jump straight into your angry rant? The OP wasn’t saying rangers need buffs, he was asking if anet has gotten around to fixing any of the many bugs that were recently introduced. There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about expecting the bugs that hurt us to be fixed, especially since anet was so quick to “fix” the “bugs” that were beneficial to rangers.
Anet is focused on gemstore junk and appeasing the PvE carebears who literally spend money and play barbie doll wars 2 aka dress up and stand around lions arch looking a fairy.
The time/cost of resources to fix WvW ailing issues is pretty high, with minimal to no reward revenue. Why would anet care about something that generates very little revenue
WvW is just a mini-game in the eyes of anet.
DarkSyze why the hell do you keep quoting threads without adding anything to the conversation?
Because i support what the person say and i do not want to add more to it.
Oh by the way, hi Puck
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I will soon visit the ranger forum
Then stick to clicking the +1 button on the side of the post. You’ve never had anything worth saying anyway.
Although I really like pulsing fury for remorseless reasons, don’t we already have pretty easy access to fury and the potential for either 100% aoe fury or close to it? That extra fury wouldn’t really do much for non-marksmanship builds would it?
100% fury uptime is easy for us to maintain but remorseless benefits from the reapplication of it, not just keeping it up. Plus this has the added bonus of benefiting allies, and freeing up rangers from relying on survival skills and traits to help reapply fury (even though condi removal still relies heavily on them). And I’d argue 20% aoe fury that can’t really be stripped will benefit just about every build.
I’m starting to think the Ranger forums are full of paranoid people who think every other player in the game is a Thief who wants to nerf them.
Because whenever someone points out something about Rangers, the responses are pretty much only “YES BUT THIEF HAS BACKSTAB”, as if that’s a valid response to every argument one can make about Rangers.@Justine & Puck: Congrats, you greatly contributed to this thread with your sarcasm. You both gain 2 sarcasm points!
On a serious note, because I’m not a troll, I obviously meant power Rangers only use LB. Are you happy now? Are you prepared to go back to your den now that you’re fed?
Comes into ranger forum telling rangers not to respond, calls people idiots…. nope not a troll at all.
Yes longbow is so OP I went full Rampager gear and am using it as condi weapon now. It’s still op as I can still hit people from a little farther away who don’t know how to gap close and don’t have condi cleanse!
If only anet had made its base range 2k then I could just solo zergs from tower walls and even take out enemy trebs before it even got a shot off!
Careful, he isn’t the brightest fellow. I doubt he’ll pick up on the sarcasm.
Anet is focused on gemstore junk and appeasing the PvE carebears who literally spend money and play barbie doll wars 2 aka dress up and stand around lions arch looking a fairy.
The time/cost of resources to fix WvW ailing issues is pretty high, with minimal to no reward revenue. Why would anet care about something that generates very little revenue
WvW is just a mini-game in the eyes of anet.
DarkSyze why the hell do you keep quoting threads without adding anything to the conversation?
Guys, Axel’s post requesting “rangers stay away” wasn’t askign rangers to stay away, but rather that those with nothing to contribute beyond “l2p teef n00b” reservce their comments so the thread can stay constructive.
While a discussion on who is the true bottom of the barrel can be a bit of a grating subject for both classes, constructive feedback should always be the focus of a post.
There is nothing left to say that hasn’t already been said a thousand times before. This isn’t just a L2P issue, it’s a learn to read issue as well.
I’m all for open world pvp but that’s not the same as WvW. You don’t need to destroy one to have the other.
It would be very helpful if the kitten Ranger mains stayed away from this thread if they have nothing useful to contribute.
“hurr durr, you’re just bad cuz we have range and you can’t deal with it” isn’t an argument nor an intelligent conclusion from reading my post.
Gee I wonder why so many rangers happen to be in this forum…..
Instead of qq’ing about something that has been discussed to death why don’t you just read through the other threads.
but thieves hardly ever play condi,
Hahahahahaha cool story.
People still cry about this? I thought everyone moved on by now.
Pvp: Fail
Www: Fail
Pve: Not FailHe is correct!
So the question is, now you have 100% evidence wvw and pvp was never serious, was only joke, what will you do next?
Didn’t you quit the game? Go away, your trolling is weak. Beating you in a discussion is no challenge/no fun.
[Suggestion]
What do you think about using this golem rush buff as an event, happening x given times a day, like a world boss event, lasting for 15-30minutes. This way ppl can prepare for defenses/rushes.
And there should be some kind of trap which only triggers on golems.
No….just no.
All that does is hand the victory to the biggest server. There is nothing you can do to stop 50+ super charged omega golems that can be spike built in front of a keep.
They need to give the pets a generous cleave radius. This would help the attacks land and make the pets more worthwhile when fighting groups.
Nope they were too busy breaking WvW to fix the ranger bugs, give it about another 6 months or so.