Guild Wars 2

This works for me a decent amount of the time, when I go to stomp a mesmer and they immediatley use their interrupt, i get shadow step ready in case they appear on screen giving me enough time to warp within finish range.

“Shawtell what the hell are you doing get over here and fight!”
“Cant sorry guys, revealed for the next 30 seconds, have fun….ooooo that looks like it hurt……”

I honestly think we wouldn’t get this much hate if we were named something else. I mean cmon, thief? Really? Who likes thieves? (thiefs as the cool kidz say). Now if we were mercenaries, assassins,ninjas, shinobi, etc. we would see a 15% decrease in hate

I am ashamed to admit though, despite the rigorous training, I cannot for the life of me take down a bunker DD ele, a GC one if a get some good Backstabs in, but a bunker is literally impossible for me to kill…. :’(

Teamkiller.4315:

He did go back to DD

Sooo does that mean people won’t look at me weird when they see an Usoku on my left, and an Usoku on my right as well? Because I honestly believe DD can still be used effectively, maybe not as great as DP but you catch my drift.

pantsforbirds.9032:

RedSpectrum.1975:

pantsforbirds.9032:

RedSpectrum.1975:

once again 0/30/30/10/0|10/30/30/0/0 valkyire or knights armor with scholar runes or wurm runes evrything else gets zerker stats enjoy.

If you’re cheap you can run ruby or beryl orbs instead of the runes. And I agree this is a very strong build, but I personally would throw the 10 into DA and take mug. (With a. Build like this though it should be saved for a burst of damage/heal later in the fight instead of an opener)

I understand the strenghts of DP, but with the right secondary, these DD twin builds are actually very effective for what they accomplish, and yes, orbs are cheaper

I’m not sure i understand. If you’re talking to me then I was also talking about a dagger dagger / shortbow build. But I was suggesting 10/30/30/0/0 with
III mug
flanking strikes, practiced tolerance (I think it’s called? 5% of precision into vitality), and hidden killer
And 2 int on stealth, blind on stealth (or condi removal), and heal in stealth
(Sorry about the SUPER weird formatting I’m on my phone)

I was agreeing with you

He said he may go back to DD too *sips tea
anyone want some?

Thief, sylvari thief, as per my signature

What do you think it is? Personally I think the more generic the more unappealing so with that being said, human warrior. I mean how basic can you get? For those that have one you know who you are<.<

omgomgomg it might finally get fixed
The downstate is very clear for me, my main is a thief, and she lasts way longer on the ground than my necromancer, and that my friends says alot.

pantsforbirds.9032:

RedSpectrum.1975:

once again 0/30/30/10/0|10/30/30/0/0 valkyire or knights armor with scholar runes or wurm runes evrything else gets zerker stats enjoy.

If you’re cheap you can run ruby or beryl orbs instead of the runes. And I agree this is a very strong build, but I personally would throw the 10 into DA and take mug. (With a. Build like this though it should be saved for a burst of damage/heal later in the fight instead of an opener)

I understand the strenghts of DP, but with the right secondary, these DD twin builds are actually very effective for what they accomplish, and yes, orbs are cheaper

once again 0/30/30/10/0|10/30/30/0/0 valkyire or knights armor with scholar runes or wurm runes evrything else gets zerker stats enjoy.

lLobo.7960:

Doggie.3184:

RedSpectrum.1975:

@Doggie, what is up with you and throwing gunk<.<? But a whole slew of weapons would be cool, but as Auesis said, anything would be better than the current anim, hence I suggested that form of breakdancing and since my sylvari has shuriken on her legs, it would make sense :p

It’s my favorite steal skill, and it’s powerful + amusing.

I always find it funny that jumping in a pool of gunk gives you chaos armor!

yeah and spinning around in it confuses the hell outta ppl

Issues.5789:

So I’m gonna guess that took 5 hours to steal that much stability.

The funny thing is a necro can get rid of that in a fraction of a second.

Zenith.7301:

Yeah it was a good duel. You could have used that blinding slash more to pressure him! It’s a fairly low cd anyways. Having a wolf/jaguar since you do have signet of the hunt would have also made the duel even easier for you.

Raven is the pet that suffers most against moving targets even with signet/speed on as showed by recent tests in this forum.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Zenith.7301:

DD thieves are trash why would you ever run DD as opposed to DP, DP is better in every single way.

You run DD thief for pve single target damage cnd backstab rotation and that’s it.

A DP thief is a faceroll thief that doesn’t even need to risk missing a cnd because BP>HS stealth is guaranteed.

Or maybe you run both? Like for example I find I fight classes like necromancers (with minions), mesmers, and most rangers better with DD for reasons you can figure out why. So it’s my secondary. Actually no, primary DP secondary >.< depends on the encounter. That’s the take home point.

EWWWW! No shortbow, I could never run my thief without it it’s too good (even if people can sidestrafe it, it’s pretty awesome for disengaging when you don’t have many cd’s up. Spamming that shortbow skill 3 alone into 3 evades with swiftness pretty much allows you to get away from anyone.

Let’s not get carried away, for zerging okay, but 1v1 and such they nerfed that thing to kingdom come. Guess they only wanted rangers to have the shortbow. I use it for escaping though I’ll admit that.

Zenith.7301:

DD thieves are trash why would you ever run DD as opposed to DP, DP is better in every single way.

You run DD thief for pve single target damage cnd backstab rotation and that’s it.

A DP thief is a faceroll thief that doesn’t even need to risk missing a cnd because BP>HS stealth is guaranteed.

Or maybe you run both? Like for example I find I fight classes like necromancers (with minions), mesmers, and most rangers better with DD for reasons you can figure out why. So it’s my secondary. Actually no, primary DP secondary >.< depends on the encounter. That’s the take home point.

As a terrormancer, I actually find that its Doom to be my main go to skill, when in Deathshroud.

I should mention, yes DP thieves are annoying as hell, but when we use DD that’s a concern as well :‘(. We LOVE to CnD off of the pets. So perhaps placing traps in their path may work? And we do have condition removal, every three seconds we are in stealth if traited for it. But regardless I’d say bunker have the best chance.

Now I understand with the whole theme of it’s war sacrifices must be made. But Your character, in my opinion, doesn’t seem affected by things that would normally destroy a person’s morale. I blasted my own crew to bits and shrugged that off? And as for decision to find that female charr pilot or kill Nekandezzar, I knew that he would be the choice, but I didn’t expect my characters to make a choice like that so quickly. And the fact that she probably would have lived had we gotten there sooner yet your characters don’t recognize this fact as a typical person would. They are also so calm when they were the only ones not killed by that undead norn hunter while everyone around them were picked off one by one. I understand its an MMO so story really isn’t the upfront thing to worry about but still, just thought Id put a few examples to explain my point.

Yup masters of death alright X’D im sorry it had to be done. But on a serious note, I do hope this gets fixed, like soon. So many chances I couldve rallied but my hp went way too fast.

@Doggie, what is up with you and throwing gunk<.<? But a whole slew of weapons would be cool, but as Auesis said, anything would be better than the current anim, hence I suggested that form of breakdancing and since my sylvari has shuriken on her legs, it would make sense :p

PopeUrban.2578:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvr9LdenG-E

That’s all

._. I want to use that on a zerg…..

Khisanth.2948:

RedSpectrum.1975:

It depends on your profession really. Mazdak was impossible by myself on my thief, the only story mission I needed help with. As for Romke, my condition necro preformed very well on that mission. It’s about profession mainly.

Heh depends on when you were doing that step. The abomination before the door opens used to be pretty deadly for just about everyone. They nerfed it a bit at some point but recently they also gave abominations the charge attack. Not sure if they remembered to exempt that one. The charge attack can be difficult to dodge especially in the tiny room. The charge attack is pretty much impossible to dodge with 25 stacks of frenzy which the NPCs tend to provide for the abomination.

While I acknowledge this, the OP made this thread about 6 days ago, so I was mainly speaking within relevance to the current settings of the mission. But I don’t doubt you. I did another option my first time through, though I don’t remember which.

Once again as well, some professions are easier to fight with certain professions. My warrior alt will be shredded by mesmers but on my thief I usually don’t have too much of a problem with them, only because I use their clones against them necromancer….not so much <.<

It depends on your profession really. Mazdak was impossible by myself on my thief, the only story mission I needed help with. As for Romke, my condition necro preformed very well on that mission. It’s about profession mainly.

RochelleFreeman.5603:

Loyo.8526:

An update of My necro, Khloe! here are both her sets. First being Power, second being condition

how are your eyes glowing? lol

Wraith mask, necro starter head piece option as opposed to skull or demon

Come on, can an asura look this bad kitten And norn thieves don’t makemuch sense to me. How can something that big be sneaky? Charr make sense, humans always make sense, and the sylvari are new so they have that air of mystery surrounding them.

Lokheit.7943:

But… Sub-Zero is better than Scorpion!!

Now seriously, what’s exactly the point of the thread? Is this a sugestion? You didn’t construct it too much beyond posting numbers and no explanations.

But the photo is pretty cool!

He most certainly is not better >:(
OT: I would like for it to be unblockable as well, but would that mean the thieves guild one would also be? Maybe that’s why it can be blocked to prevent that elite from being….well….elite

I have 700k karma, with 100+ jugs in the bank and rising, of course I want this option

bettinah.3128:

Ah, some cool stuff you have there! Wonder why no replies so far, I’d definitely be interested (May I advise you go to Reddit’s GW2 sub, and post it there too, if you haven’t yet? I think you could gather more opinions and see the interest there: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/ )

I myself would be very curious how would you make the Mesmer, that profession should be quite a challenge And as thief is my favorite prof, I would be thrilled to see it as well
…aaand PvP all the way! ;D

This person said everything I wanted to say so there :p

Shadelen.4053:

RedSpectrum.1975:

OMFG this DD thief backstab hit me for 14k
OMFG this other DD thief wont die easily from my 1337 attacks
conclusion: DD thieves hit for 14k and dont fold easily-thats what ive seen
same could be said for ele too
OMFG this DD ele is tanky
OMFG this other DD ele is powerful
conclusion: DD ele is tanky and powerful

two diff builds people

How many weapon sets and only two? Flexibility of crap

I was highlighting your point that just because two people use the same tools, they aren’t necessarily running the same build.
Of course there are more, but that wouldn’t have proven anything.

Travlane.5948:

d/d thieves fold real fast. most of there steal is attached to CND. if they miss one they arent doing much dmg :P if they miss 2 they are dead unless they have shadow refuge which they usually dont. d/d usually brings signet of shadows…..assassins signet and haste or infiltrators or blinding powder or shadowstep. d/d doesnt have burst. they only have a 2 hit combo now. :P if they do down a target they usually die before being able to finish stomping it.

The build i was referring to was 10/30/30/0/0|0/30/30/10/0 “balanced” where you generally have the traits and utilities to hep you live, not the GC builds
look Yishis’ thief for example in his DD zerg fights, how he’s able to take some punishment

Travlane.5948:

This video is with valkyrie/bersekr/other stuff so its nto max dmg but still high. its about 80% of what it should be. i only have a few mini clips but likie i said i havent had any requests for this kind of video but if people find it funny ill go around ganking people lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJTJOB0DXTo

._. yeah thats the kind of thing I wouldnt want coming from behind me, it’s happened before no one likes it.

OMFG this DD thief backstab hit me for 14k
OMFG this other DD thief wont die easily from my 1337 attacks
conclusion: DD thieves hit for 14k and dont fold easily-thats what ive seen
same could be said for ele too
OMFG this DD ele is tanky
OMFG this other DD ele is powerful
conclusion: DD ele is tanky and powerful

two diff builds people

Crovax.7854:

i guess that’s wurm or scholar then, thanks for the replies.
which one is better for wvw roaming and 1v1/x?
scholar has the 10% bonus for >90% health, will i be able to maintain my health at such a high value? on the other hand runes of the wurm are mainly defensive; won’t i lack the pressure needed in a duel?

Its a tradeoff, the answer to that is your playstyle. Can you maintian high health, are you comfortable with that lack of that extra bit of defense or do you feel like you need it? Maybe 5 runes of scholar one rune of wurm? Depends on you

Oh my, the ice shard trick worked I used it on a mesmer after I took out these two eles. Oh this stolen skill will be of use to me now >:D

Well Divinity runes are gotten because people love how they give you a total of +60 in every stat when in reality you dont need that. Just focus on runes that you need, with your gear and traits go with wurm or scholar

Travlane.5948:

this is my build not influenced by anyone but me. am in the first? idk idc lol . but this is what i run wheni wanna be a jerk….which usually costs me my life. i should go make a 15 min video of 10 sec clips of me ganking people so it “looks” OP.

Do it, I’m in need of some entertainment. And well, it’s a build I’d never run :p

Travlane.5948:

spvp wont work bc of the 50% dmg debuff for all classes. sux and unfair bc its not an even downgrade although on the surface it appears to be.

BEST BURST WORST BUILD IN GAME:

30 30 0 0 10

III IX XII
II III XII
0
0
IV

Signet of Malice-Signet of Agility-Signet of Shadows-Assassins signet-Basilisk Venom

Full Zerk armor with scholar runes Full Zerk accs with zerk jewels

run D/D and SB

Operation: BAS VEN to SIG OF MALICE to ASSASS SIG to SIG OF AGI to SIG OF SHAD to CND then quickly to STEAL finish then BACKSTAB and its gauranteed to down any class / player if you get it off.

enjoy the OP ness….and all the deaths that come right after lol :P u might even hit 25k backstabs or 30k+ if they have frenzy or 35k if frenzy and lots of vulnerability on

*Swinsk runs build, we notice an odd increase in thief is op threads surface

swinsk.6410:

No. I personally don’t have a problem with the animation as is. Just my opinion tho.

And as such, I will respect it.

The animation for it was the same as Sonic’s breakdance taunt from Super Smash Bros Brawl? And if you don’t know what that is, then the male ranger dance from Guild Wars 1, the part where he breakdances. If if you still dont have any clue what Im talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxIEMuA1YA4

Do you guys think this would be much more bad kitten?

Well I’ve always rolled 0/30/30/10/0 DD DP-SD-SB so bursting was never my thing. I have seen some classic glass cannon running around, so I think DD glass is still bursting around. Those new no stealth evasion builds aren’t burst I think, but I think there are some DP burst builds out, just not as effective as an actual DP build since those manage initiative much better. If that answers your question.

I run valk armor, zerk everything else

Do you guys like how the new screams sound? They all seem to similar to me:/ cant deny some are cute though:3

My main is a thief, my alt a necro. When I discovered this I was like “How are they not making a big deal about this?!”

Simon.3106:

I think he’s just suggesting it for the sake of scenery.

Oh, I thought he meant in terms of player benefits, ie his sigil of night, my bad :/

If you were sylvari you could tell<.<, but ive never really seen a prob with it:/

I like that steal trick, I didnt know, dbl tapping it. Ice Shard will be used more often now.

Travlane.5948:

in the same way stealth mitigates dmg for theives its also dmg mitigation for the enemy….just another way of looking at it. so you could say thank you as an opponent ? yes a thief can move in to attack but soon as we do we are being hit with the enemys auto attack. and when BS hits at like what…30-35% success realistically per try…. :P a face stab is like 2300 dmg.

funniest times are when i go into stealth and they start the auto attack dance while im realistically just standing there watching them. even when ive been out of stealth they are still there swinging around to which i casually walk away…

Any class that uses AI ive adopted the philosophy of sharing that AI with them, especially rangers. If you want to bring help into the fight that is fine by me, just so long as I can CnD off of it we are good to go, those kitten wolf and dog tackles are annoying though.