Guild Wars 2

Yup I see the problem. You have no stun breakers on your utility bar. Rayya, I am disappoint

Someone verify (i’m on a role in these forums tonight) mesmers have a BS counter where they stand in their clones. Can we just prevent this by CnD’ing the clone away?

To be that other guy, I find in sPvP and even WvW sometimes I carry DD and DP on me since DD actually does better than DP in some cases, best example is against a mesmer. Using their clones against them and re-stealthing until you find a better opening. Same with rangers and necromancers with minions. DP works well for warriors and guardians for the blinding factor, and a way to go stealth without putting your health at risk by needing to get close to them. But especially for other thieves.

I mean the only major thing I don’t like about TS is its lack of damage. Often after getting hit, a person would naturally evade away and gain a bit of distance allowing the daze to wear off before you can do any real follow up damage.

I mainly dodge if its a skill whose timing allows you

I run a condition necromancer since I wanted to run something that has never been done before………..and I wanted to know, is it smarter to space out the condi’s or burst them? I space my fears out but as for the rest, I find that if I burst conditions, they can sometimes get cleansed quickly while my skills are on CD leaving me in an awkward state, yet, is this how it should be done? Or should conditions be spaced out a bit more to keep the pressure up?

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

SirDrygan.1823:

You all should ask, why target Divinity’s Reach? Why didn’t she attack the Grove instead?

Maybe she can’t attack the Grove, due to one reason, the Pale Tree is stronger than her and her army or she knows the Pale Tree is dying………which would make it pointless for her to attacking it…..

It’s more simple why DR was attacked.

Queen Jennah made a big show of how humanity still was strong and wanted to show off their creations. What better way to hammer down some enemies than spoiling that? Which, notably, is already done. Win or lose, the watchknights supposedly meant to be a fine creation became one rampant threat after another. And she proved the city is still vulnerable.

Again, win or lose, the point was made: “you are not safe”.

Quite possibly to destroy self-esteem too. The main thing humans have going for them is their will and confidence in themselves. If that’s gone, then they’ll start to fall apart.

Xaton.1902:

here is probly reason why no ont is truely openly worried about sylvari cause they are plants. they can be ignited fast easy have all races turn on them and with fire magic charr warmachines flamethrowers or plasmathrowers from asura shut theri gates down and then basicly torch the forest.

Just because they are verdant doesn’t mean they catch fire any easier than humans do, Anet has said this. Why do you think there are sylvari blacksmiths?

I use last one first row, dat bow-ny tail

I lol’d at the shadow retreat part

This is far from a bannable offense. He is stealthing off of a damagable object. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Like you said, it one thief so that one person won’t do much to turn the tides to the war. It’s not exploited either since it’s kind of working as intended. CnD stealths when damage is dealt, damage was dealt to the wall, stealth. And besides, it not like he can do that across the entire map, just the tower. So his “guaranteed stealthing” is rather limited. Now if he was DP…

Literally what Black said, in WvW they are fatal for me since I am a stealth backstab thief. The aoe condi can wipe you fast. Yet when I run that SD evasion build in PvP, I can handle them so much better. Yet in PvP, second I go stealth build then oh kitten engi suck again

My mouth is drooling, we need some of these styles !

Yeah it is weird, it def has to due with the culling fix, because the same thing happened in wvw when they did this

If you look at the character creation, there are two different body skins for the same physiques, one looks like bark the other looks like leaf. So it’s both, different sylvari may have wooden of leafy skin, mine personally has leaf.

Manuhell.2759:

The first thing they should do is actually test the content.
Cause this wasn’t tested at all. The second whirl is near the border, so they would have seen how bad the camera was in that position.
And they would also have noticed how the orbs weren’t destructible by some weapons.
And they would have seen how the floor makes the aoe rings difficult to see.
And they would have noticed how with norns and charrs the camera is even more terrible.
So either they didn’t actually test it, or they ignored every opinion given by the testers.
Either way, this is a frustrating, terrible mess.

The whirl placement is dependent on the arena, i.e. the charr arena has thw hirls by the border as close asit can get, the asura/sylvari/human arena have it close but not up your back close

I’ve officially seen every variation of her name :p I dont know much about rangers, but I do know condi specs do very well against her

Auesis.7301:

I noticed you never try to land a HS for a backstab. Any reason for that? I would have done that once or twice, I think. If it’s a problem with initiative, I’d probably do it through Smoke Screen instead of Black Powder.

I can’t play until later this week, so I’ll try it for myself then.

You cant backstab him, for me at least, he reveals me the entire fight :/
And may I make a suggestion? In DA i went for the triat where traps apply vulnerability (5 stacks) for 8 seconds, and the other trait in DA that increases power for conditions on the target

Rissou.7213:

5 tickets cost 20 silver and 15 cogs.

You gain 50 silver and 25 cogs.

The profit is 30 silver and 10 cogs per win with 4 gambits.

Gambits used is Hamstrung, no dodge, burned and bleed.

There is no bleed gambit I think. Squeamish makes you hit weaker, on topic…TAKE THIS THREAD DOWN QUICK

Celestina.2894:

She always has been I think

My theory is Logan has a foot fetish

This made me lol

I bet someone out there has definitely made a necromancer or mesmer with her exact looks. If you see her someone take a pic!

Missywink.7162:

Excalibur.9748:

Missywink.7162:

Excalibur.9748, what Profession are you out of interest ?

Thief…. why?

The classes that have found it easiest are Mesmer, Warrior, Guardian and Thief. Play it as an Engineer, Necromancer, Ranger and come back.

Wut? Thief is not a walk in the park for her. Her grasping hands hurt way to much for us in phase 1. Oh look we can stealth! WAIT! If you stealth, the clones stop moving, which is what you don’t want since the aoe is still moving and ask any of us players that beat her, phase 1 has a set rhythm you get down, the first three portals and first three clones are usually the ones used to get to phase 2, any mess up, at least on my end and you screw up hard. Miss one of the first three portals and say goodbye, the aoe is no going to drop in an inconvenient spot now. So I reiterate, stealth actually hinders us in phase 1, only time i did it was after I threw the first crystal and when I placed shadow refuge on the third crystal. Thats the only luxury us thieves have, the fact that we can effectively set up on her in between the third crystal throw and the beginning of phase 2 with shadow refuge.
In phase 2, she can actually burst us down with her regular whip attack. This infuriated me. As if the clones aoe and orb wasnt enough, even she herself had more burst potential than most players, only thing I had on my side was a trait that gave me endurance back on evade, signet of agility which refilled my endurance meter, and a trait that cured crippled and weakness on evade every 10 seconds. I found out that i actually had to Cloak and Dagger off of the clones themselves, you know how risky that is with poor mistiming? Let’s not forget the aoe… /rant

I love you right now, this works so well AND when TG is on CD

It seems like its just me, but I feel like I’ll do these rotations and they work sometimes and dont others even though im doing the same thing

I feel like the karma helps me, when I beat Liadri, I rezzed someone before queing, I literally told him as he said thank you: “No problem, I hope this karma works in my favor now :p”

Thief 20/0/30/20/0 SB P/D HiS, Caltrops, Sig of Agility, Shadow Refuge, Thieves Guild

Keth.1968:

My build for Light Up the Darkness was :
10 : III
10 : VI
0
20 : III, VII
30 : III, VI, XII
Shortbow
Withdraw, Signet of Agility, Assassin’s Signet, Scorpion Wire, Basilisk Venom

Mug, Long Reach and Sleight of Hand helps you to kill the orb with a little additional heal. Maybe Sleight of Hand wasn’t so crucial but you can stun in phase 2…
Fleet of Foot is obviously very useful in phase 2. If it’s in cooldown, Withdraw can cure cripple and Signet of Agility weakness, in this order.
Uncatchable cripples Liadri when she’s near to you.
You can stun Liadri with the venom even in phase 1.
The Wire allows you to quickly put clones in vortexes…
The 10 points in Critical Strike and the assassin’s signet are here to provide some dps. (With soldier armor and zerk jewelry, she was almost dead at the 7th crystal)
Don’t use too much initiative to dodge, infiltrator’s arrow is very usefull to pick up crystals, and you need cluster bomb to damage Liadri.

I hope I was clear enough, it’s the best I can do with my poor english skills. ^^

Your english is fine

Does anyone have access to a guantlet farming build? Preferably a tier 3 fight, I heard Dunwell is preferred, with at least 4 gambits up. Thanks in advance

If anyone has any advice on these guys it would be great because i face the same problem, they hit so hard

Stauros.4395:

That build has a major flaw dude, first why go in with poison traits when clearly for what u have stated u got 0 poison skills?

Explain how and why will work

Actually the build i got it from used spider venom instead of caltrops, i completely forgot to change the traits :p
Once again though it proves that she doesnt need every little bit of help, if you have the timing down she is fine. I recommend caltrops though instead of spider venom, other than that you dont need much else thx for that catch ill see what traits can be replaced, howver, poison duration should stay due to choking gas

Rottaran Owain.6789:

aeneq.1760:

Yes they are oneshot, I specifically went for examples that illustrated this point. There are also a lot of other examples of combination attacks that although dont take all your health in one blow still means you die without any chance to react to it.

Seeing your life bar being slowly drained or in chunks it is just a visual effect, like for instance you run up a corridor and suddenly a skeleton on a wheel comes rolling at you, if you are not smart enough (to use a shield or dodge in GW2) then you are dead, maybe from 50 small attacks but it doesnt change the fact that you cant do anything about it.

No, you can survive any of them taking the hit with proper gear and health. Any of those hits can be survived via armour or extra health. Being stunlocked by skeleton wheels can be stopped with a high poise (which comes from heavier armour) for instance, and all the other examples are just a matter of having enough health to take the hit. As I said, being one-shot when you have base vitality and cruddy armour is very different from everyone being one-shot no matter how they’re built or set-up.

Also, most bosses one-shot most people because most people neglect to upgrade their armour and health in that game, from my experience.

^ idk why he put the pinwheel skeles on that list, they are definitely NOT one shot, they are designed to hit you very rapidly to eat your health away. They def cant kill any player in one hit

Doggie.3184:

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

Well just dont eat them.

You can in certain places.

Giggity
/15 chars

Hold on, you want to make it so that you have to throw more light at her, making the fight harder?

Giving full credit to Auesis, his build works very well no doubt, but I bet some of use are either too lazy or too poor to get anything else. Well I was one of those thieves that wanted to show her who the true master of shadows was so for gear I went lvl 80 rare carrion gear, only armor, and undead runes. This is not expensive. All my other gear, trinkets weapons, literally all of it was still zerker :p Weapons i used PD and SB. traits were 20/0/30/20/0 ( III,V / 0 / III,VI,XI / III,VII / 0). Utilites were HiS, Signet of Agility, Caltrops, SR, and TG.

SB was out for the entire first phase, I only had it to quickly cluster bomb the orb since aoe’s work as well as melee dmg. SB is actually preferred in some cases since the orb respawns about where you are about to get your third crystal which has screwed me over many times, so the cluster bomb can actually destroy it cross arena, hopefully quick enough before it pulls you ruining your rhythm. Other than thakittens basically luck where that orb spawns :/, on the final crystal, like right before you pick it up, drop SR, this is very crucial. While stealthed, and making sure the aoe wont land on it, throw the crystal, shoot choking gas, drops caltrops right on her, switch to PD summon thieves guild and start going to town. TG WILL die fast just a word of caution.

Now try to keep your distance, trying to let her bleed not die out. Now what i found is that, don’t be afraid to CnD off of Clones to set up for sneak attack I have literally never died CnD’ing them. Also CnD the orb when you are by it or when it pulls you toward it. You will be traited to drop her cripple on evade every 10 seconds and weakness. Stealth when you can to keep that blood up with sneak attack and dont forget to drop caltrops while youre running. Signet of agility has two uses, clearing one of her condi, but mainly to refill your endurance meter in a dire situation. For food I used Condi dmg food, +100.

I hope this helps for those that aren’t willing to spend a lot of money on gear to kill one boss

THIS FREAKING GUY, I used SD just for him! my build was still 0/30/30/10/0 but i had to use no stealth due to the revealed! I used shadowstep, sos and Infil signet just so i could stay on top of him the entire time, it was so annoying

I actually really like the second color scheme and the overall look of the character. It almost has an oriental feel to it with the red like colors and yellows, as you said the only major downfall is no mix and match 8.5/10
I have three characters so here they are in the order of thief, necromancer and guardian: thief theme was a leafy ninja look, necromancer was a royal African theme, and guardian i went for an angelic kind of theme, tell me what you think

My new angelic guardian

Yes, CnDing off of phantoms and clones will greatly allow you to plan your next move. If the phantasms are whats hurting you, land the backstab on the mesmer and get your evade button ready.

I don’t even know if one can adopt outside their species, but if they could, i.e. a norn adopting a human, would the sylvari be allowed to adopt children? Would they be seen as too young or too naive?

Thanks for the advice guys

Since they moved Greater Marks, I’ve run into a conundrum with my fear mancer, I’m running 0/30/10/0/20, there are 10 points left. It is tempting to put them toward Greater Marks, but the marks are decently sized now, only good thing is unblockability. I find it tempting to also put them in the power tree for retal in DS, but then I feel like I’ll need something in the vital/hp tree. What do you guys suggest?

Wierd I was only in pve today so i cant really vouch, Ill check tomorrow though

Do you have the sigile of fire equipped? Ive noticed that there is a random glitch that if the aoe hits another enemy, that counts as an attack revealing you

wait do you have the sigil of fire equipped by any chance?
ive noticed a little bug or something where if the aoe hits another enemy, the fire reveals you

KINGRPG.3492:

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Sadness and Sorrow can be played?? I freaking love you right now

If you like condition builds so much, I heavily suggest the necromancer.

Berengar.6951:

I’m confused how he let you cast a trap for 4 seconds and still lost? Should be able to take away most of your health in that time since you aren’t doing anything to stop it.

Shadow Refuge is your friend heheheheheheheeh

In Game Name: Shawtell

Secondary class: Mainly Necromancer

Teacher or Student: Student

Hours?: 1110 of 1500

Theorycrafted much?: I can’t say I have, though I have tried many builds including but not limited too D/P, Evasive S/D etc. Love to roll D/D balanced

Contribute much?: I have helped out other thieves with various tips on how to do better, but by no means do I consider myself the best or top league, which is why I am for a student

Friendly?: Of course

Willing to prove myself?: Of course always willing to get better and to keep track of my progress

Scholar i would think, also eagle if straight up crit

Yeah for both platfroms you can press 1 and 2, its not too hard