Guild Wars 2

Yesterday wiped zerg with 0 stacks of Bloodlust in beginning. 25 stacks after fight (on hammer). 5 lootbags.
Just lol.

Yes, alot of ppl in my guild noticed this too. Apparently, WvW was too profitable place, precursors was falling from skies, lord never drops less when 10g, etc.

Thesilentflute.8761:

Each server has players that spend allot of time to try to succeed and have to deal with the distraction of “GvG”, taking spots and pulling players during a war stunting server mobility and being counter productive as a whole in respect to the game mode. The much larger problem is that these players are exploiting the loot and wvw exp systems.

What did you know about life in strict WvW guilds?
We fighting in WvW every day. Every day we have raids on schedule. Almost every day we have CTA, when we have to drop everything and rush to save something and stabilize situation. We don’t have much time to farm dungeons or events except 1 day in week. We don’t have much time to sPvP. We don’t have shiny piles of money, fancy weapons, 10k achievements and so on. We literally live in and for WvW, since beta.
And you want to tell us that our participation is not enough and we can’t have 1-2 30min GvG matches in month?

Just keep damaging from range and rotate ppl if he trying to focus one. He is warrior, without protection and healing under constant damage he will wear off fast. Honestly i don’t understand why you having problems at all, this build is 1×1 duel-oriented, it’s pretty easy to kitten him in the group.

All your repair is 1 strike of ram. If you don’t have siege to destroy rams and don’t have good number of ppl to repair alot of gate HP, it’s useless. And if you have alot of ppl and supply, better use it to flash build superior arrowcarts and melt anything near gates.

Building mastery have limited applications, though i don’t see any reason to get more than 2 ranks in it, there is ton of more useful things to spend points on. Repair mastery is utterly useless.

Gully.7358:

No effort to ‘catch us’ was required since we were actually charging into him and his group. Only thing they were catching was a trip to the waypoint for a rez.

And sure, he wasn’t with a 25+ group that time but his group was still bigger then ours. But I like your reply though, gives a good idea of your thought process.

I played only ~3h in EU prime (because Europe is big and my timezone is +3h ahead from Britain. Yes, thought process, use it sometimes plz), so i don’t see this glorious battle. Can i have a vid/screenshots with your impressive victory with awesome small roaming group against poor 25ppl? Please?

Gully.7358:

Saying that, we bumped into an [Iron] group yesterday with our little 4 man group while streaming. Your charr commander attempted to fight us twice with his group but left the borderland when he couldn’t get the result that he wanted. That has nothing to do with a server population…

You want to say that commander of 25+ guild group must drop everything and try to catch roaming group at any cost or what? Different sizes means different tasks, and i even don’t mention what we are often only sizable organized force in EU timezone, since KISS raid time is not set in stone and SoR don’t have a ton of SEA who can play overtime, or extra blobs of fairweather pugs die to population.

Neuromancer.2148:

You do understand that’s nowhere near the way it works right? WvW participation isn’t in any way proportional to the server population, so right from there, your math is off.

Ppl on different server have different mentality? Transfer to server X makes you total PvE carebear, to Y – sPvP champion, to Z – 24/7 WvW participant?

Neuromancer.2148:

By your same logic, TC should have been buried under JQ because of the significant lead JQ held. But no, they rallied and may yet snatch victory away from JQ.

JQ now have only one thing that hold em above TC – Waha and his loyal ATM, and while TC have a significant hole in SEA/Oceanic timezone, JQ SEA can play overtime and get some awesome ppt from this. Remove Waha and TC will be in T1 in 2-3 weeks.

JaredKincade.9761:

Call BG stacked all you want. But full server status has nothing to do with it. You should be happy, now we can’t "buy" more guilds lol.

Let’s assume that 10% of population playing WvW, and set population planks at Very High = 25000+, Full = 35000+ (we got 3kk GW2 sold and anet set server status by number accounts per server, not by online). So it’s 2500 vs 3500 already. If server winning, ppl come to WvW even more, everyone want some loot/achievements etc. So +5%, 2500 vs 5250, hello 400+ ppt, hello full map blobs vs outmanned.

JaredKincade.9761:

SOR loves to forget that the server count includes PVE guilds, not just WvW. We have several 400+ man PvE guilds on blackgate, and tons of players that never ever step foot into WvW, and TC is known for their PvE community.

Get over it SOR, those numbers have nothing to do with each other.

Thats why full servers usually are T1-T2, and usually full server is a winning one. Cool story bro.

Doomdesire.9365:

It’s happening again!

[BG forum warrior mode on]
NOOOOO! It’s photoshopped fake, you little liar, BG is not stacked at all! SoR are!
[BG forum warrior mode off]

Titan.3472:

No worry I ll log in soon and care of your cute Iron zerg like always with [CA] harcore wvw crew. (I have the City of Villains Dominators pvp playstyle blood – feel the pain?)

YESTERDAY video is edited : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kthdf85IiQg

What an excuse about a practice week when we see full force zerg in EB, well we definitely have to admit you need some heavy trainings and one week will never be enough believe me. Your zerg keep fading away after 2 or 3 wipes in a row thats the real issue at least fresh blood keep coming and try hard.

Big Up to Commander Sehoon Sword MASTER WARLORD of [CA]

Titan War -BG – [CA] Elite Warrior

It will be nice video indeed, just don’t forget to point at numbers. Yesterday we run with exactly 28 ppl (yes, we perform headcount), against your hardcore skilled elite trained superprofessional fullmap 90+ blob.
P.S. And still i got ~150 kills from that, lol.

Furesy.6935:

Would making the WvW titles be similar to the Luxon/Kurzick titles in GW1 work?

Basically creating like 10 tiers within each of the achievements and then providing anyone who reaches Tier 1 with a Title, and every followed tier upgrades that title.

Also greatly increasing the AP you get for each of the tier (titles) would help.

It’s small, but it’s something I guess.

In the likes of;

Current System:

Tier 1: +1 AP
Tier 2: +5 AP
Tier 3: +5 AP
Tier 4: +10 AP
Tier 5: +10 AP
Tier 6: +20 AP Title: Ultimate Dominator

New system:

Tier 1: +1 AP, Title: First Blood
Tier 2: +10 AP, Title: Realm Avenger
Tier 3: +25 AP, Title: Veteran Avenger
Tier 4: +50 AP, Title: Champion Avenger
Tier 5: +75 AP, Title: Ultimate Avenger
Tier 6: +100 AP Title: Realm Dominator
Tier 7: +200 AP, Title: Veteran Dominator
Tier 8: +300 AP, Title: Champion Dominator
Tier 9: +400 AP, Title: Ultimate Dominator
Tier 10: +500 AP, Title: Legendary Dominator

250k kills would still be needed to reach Tier 10.

I would like to see similar list for Doly escort titles

Titan.3472:

I respect my opponent
Respecting the fighters

Titan.3472:

you are a pseudo harcore wvw guild
please use TS and tell me how it helps you when you face me ??? ok ? !
I transfered back to BG and unbalanced the match guys

Sure, buddy. Hope you will have fun demonstrating your harcore skills.
P.S. CA guys, sorry for that dialog, i respect you and understand that guild cannot control everything and everyone. Like “great forum warriors”.

Titan.3472:

After spending one month in SoR server to help beating JQ, I could see the new matchup with DB instead of JQ. I am more than happy that I transfered back to BG at reset. And I found a good guild of harcore players like me : Center of Attention [CA].
Was a blast farming [IRON] bags in EB last 12hours. I heard that your commander was screaming in TS to focus us (but never worked^^) I am recording nice videos and I ll make a best of ^^. About [KISS] … same happened to you in EB

Thanks for good laugh, really funny post. I even know now who was that hysterical CA guardian, who running and spamming /lol after we own you with half of your numbers (almost 30 min of spam, you must be really frustrated). Love you and your “harcore” mates, /cheers.

Rigel.3092:

Nice try, Rednik, but I personally want to thank you for your 8 badge contribution….

Sure, no problem. I have ~170 just for today already.

Punny.9210:

wow man you guys are so awesome. since u only need 20 ppl per map then we should be seeing SoR 600+ PPT soon right ?

Ofc no, our guild finds too boring assault your keeps full of greatly skilled (in AC mastery) brave warriors, so we going for bags, as usual. 500+ kills per evening is pretty nice.

JoePhuket.8045:

Thx IRON, TW and FEAR for opening our SEA eyes how much different of the skill level is between NA and SEA.

Yep, i login in game for 30 min, just in time to come to Aldon and wipe 60+ BG blob with our 25 ppl. Your SEA guys are really skilled.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

I don’t really see a great argument for why people should be refunded on the infusions. They made a lot of gold thanks to them, it’s not like it was a bad investment. Not all investments stay good forever.

A-net: Guys, we have some great news for you. Tomorrow, we nerf damage of all your weapons to 1! So you will be forced to get all new weapons. It’s fun!
Players: Wat… why? We don’t want it! At least, give us some compensation!
A-net: Lol, you already do enough damage with current weapons, so no refund for you. Stop complaining!
Players: …

pot.6805:

SoRs OCE, SEA and EU have completely given up.

Lol.

Removal of rally system is giant step from organized WvW to mindless damage spam. So no, no and no.

Vash.9183:

Does your large guild really need a reason to zerg everything? You zerg everything anyway. That’s how you hit such huge ppt. You don’t only hit JQ. lol.

Btw our usual mid-week online during EU prime is ~40ppl, and ~5-7 of them usually afk or assigned on scout duty on other borders. And we often don’t have luxury of choosing BL for long time, since we are forced to perform role of firefight team, jump here and there, strike fast and port to attack/defend other objective.

LostBalloon.6423:

It’s our EU’s way of paying back waha for what he does during SEA.

This. Every time when we log in we hear stories about Waha attacking exclusively SoR, alot of rallians are quite angry on JQ and ask us for retaliation strikes.

GW1 fractal >>>>>>>>>>> another boring Inquest fractal.
And i don’t care about temporary discounts anyway.

Kathy K.6812:

This just shows that SoR doesn’t need anymore transfers… They have what it takes to beat BG in every time zone. It’s only a matter of “how bad you want it.”

So “overstacked” or “doesn’t need anymore transfers”?

Kathy K.6812:

KISS & SONG came the previous week yet you refuse to call them “recent” transfers? No wonder SoR recruits so much…

&yeah Rednik, please remind me I’m currently getting ready for work.

Oh, here we go again. So, week before SoR was with same guilds as now, BG leading in SEA all week. Now SoR, without ANY new transfers pull some overtime, takes lead and suddenly OMG U OVERSTACKED, RECRUIT MOAR.

Kathy K.6812:

I’m fairly certain KISS & SONG were recent…

Previous week. SONG and KISS already here. Shall i remind you ppt and result?

Kathy K.6812:

Lol drunk NA doesn’t get you over 300 PPT all throughout the day and 440+ PPT during Oceanic/SEA.

That’s called over-stacking your server… I hope JQ and BG can get more transfers to balance out against SoR’s ridiculous coverage.

- Hey, BG have those guilds, and we have only…
- LOL U OVERSTACKED RECRUIT MOAR
- But we dont have any recent transfers…
- LOL U OVERSTACKED RECRUIT MOAR
- But your ppt was much higher with same guilds on SoR and BG…
- LOL U OVERSTACKED RECRUIT MOAR
- Hey, do you even listen?
- LOL U OVERSTACKED RECRUIT MOAR

Dat forum troll logic.

DoTE is too situational, WvW targets rarely have alot of boons for long time. It’s more sPvP anti-bunker talent.

I don’t recommend making banner spec for WvW zerg. Banners can be useful sometimes if you run in havoc group and all you major fights are in cap circle, but in any group of larger size you will be moving alot, losing all your banner bonuses. If you want healing, go to shouts. Also i suggest switch to 0-0-25-30-15 spec, it’s universal for support and have alot of room for various support and half-support builds.

Reducing WvW loot, really? Guys, do you understand what WvW loot is bad in comparison with PvE farm, and laughable in comparison with dungeon farming?

I agree with removing aoe cap if Anet also remove buff cap, make retal working from dot application and increase retal damage x2-3. Wanna win AoE fight? Be smart and remove buffs first, or lay AoE smartly. Wanna mindlessly spam AoE? Here is your instagib, happy respawn, l2p.

Neuromancer.2148:

To any Oce/SEA guilds who are thinking of transferring right now:

Please consider the evidence and data of the tier and see the patterns in the scores. SoR does NOT tick at this low a PPT unless they intend it. Just yesterday they were in the high 200s and even hit 300 on average. At worst they were not far behind in the low 200s. This week, they made up for a 2k lead and extended it to 12k in their favor in a single day.

No one can stop you from going where you please, but please do consider the balance of the matchups for the sake of the WvW community at large. One super-server will upset the game for everyone.

+1000 to this. Don’t go to SoR, or you will completely ruin BG+JQ SEA PvD and we will drown into whine. We prefer to loose some ppt instead of this forum horror.

zepp.4109:

When other servers don’t have european coverage and your server have, it’s called PvDoor. A unfamiliar concept for someone, i know.

The absurdity your claim can be seen by anyone who visits the MOS site and check usual PPT. So… another ridiculous and a blatant lie? How typical.

pot.6805:

PvDoor o’clock

When other servers drop everything and run to engage PvE, and your server continue to field forces and carry out its task – it’s called discipline. An unfamiliar concept for someone, I know.

Kathy K.6812:

Lol I’m pretty sure Fuzzion isn’t pot :P

But the logic is similar – “I do not want to answer with arguments, so I will use a unrelated facts, and will pretend that I have won the debate already”.

Fuzzion.2504:

Its cute when iron, a member of NA t1 for less than 16% of the total time JQ spent on Tier1 makes a (/chest thumping) comment about t1

pot, you login on wrong account, relogin plz.

1. Support Tagging:
Wat? If you ele/guardian, you have best tagging options in game. Ele have TONS of aoe on staff, guardians can spam staff 1 all day every day.

2. Seperate WvW Traits / Equipslots
Change traits and equip is ~1 min of time and 3.5 silver. Dunno how it can be a problem.

zerospin.8604:

Giving even more boosts for the outmanned is the way to go. Otherwise all you’d achieve is making players leave WvW, and that’s not what we want, we want more of them to log on, but on the outmanned side. The current buffs are silly. It should be at least:

200% MF (as we know from southsun, it really isnt that much at all)
no damage on death
+200% WxP, karma, gold from events
permanent protection buff (-33% incoming damage)
permanent swiftness (33% speed)

That would bring many people from EB to each battleground, and spread the forces evenly. And it’s not OP in any way, in a 20 vs 5 fight, you won’t notice the buffs anyway.

+200 MF is way too much. It will attract PvE farmers, who will start farm mobs instead of fighting.

Waffler.1257:

Imagine a world where every server had the exact same population and coverage, you would be fighting new servers in competitive matches every week! Grats on your server stacking idiots, you ruined the game for both yourself and everyone else.

Dispersion of WvW guilds will be unequal anyway → some servers begin lead → WvW guild recruitment started (no one want to be stomped) → guild transfers → WvW-stacked servers → migration of casuals (no one want to be stomped) → top tiers stacked with PvE and WvW population.
This is natural and logical process, you cant stop it without stopping transfers.

Actually, current RNG matches feels better. Yes, it creates some unbalanced matches, but it also create more rating switches. I remember period of first short WvW matches, where you can overwhelm your opponent in one day and be completely crushed in the next. That was fun.
P.S. We not seeking PvD action, exactly opposite, desire to avoid this prompted us to choose transfer to SoR as weakest (in terms of coverage) server in the top three.

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

Well, there are 2 days before the reset, and now with your rating you have all the chances to get a “not boring game.” Be careful what you wish for <_<.

Dranul.2094:

And the 50man zerg can build Superior Rams even quicker than before.

Yet another example of their mechanics being in favour of the zergs not against.

50 ppl zerg will flash build rams regardless of perks.

lordkrall.7241:

And yet those few seconds can be the difference between a capture and a wipe.

Can be. But still it significant mainly for havoc squad and require 10+ ppl with it. So it may be useful, but for specialized groups. For normal all-purpose guilds DaG, Siege Bunker and AC mastery is more important imo.

lordkrall.7241:

I would disagree.
A flash build is also quite useful in a situation where you have small havoc squads that rush in and take a tower/keep.

Unscouted one, and mostly w/o reinforced gates. and proper siege. Which already means what your enemy making mistakes and/or objectives what you trying to take deemed unimportant.
Flash build can give you few seconds, but nothing more.

Squidlips.3817:

World vs. World Build and Repair Mastery
Take your siege tactics to the next level with the Build Master and Repair Master World vs. World ability lines! Use Build Mastery to build siege weapons more quickly, or put points into Repair Mastery to use Supply more efficiently for repairing walls and gates.
Build Master I: Spend 4 supply at a time when building siege
Build Master II: Spend 6 supply at a time when building siege
Build Master III: Spend 8 supply at a time when building siege
Build Master IV: Spend 10 supply at a time when building siege

Repair Master I: Spend 4 supply at a time when repairing
Repair Master II: Spend 6 supply at a time when repairing
Repair Master III: Spend 8 supply at a time when repairing
Repair Master IV: Spend 10 supply at a time when repairing

Low-priority lines imo.
If you are assaulting and need flash build, it means you under heavy aoe. But if you are under heavy aoe, it means enemy have large def force already and you need sizable force to perform this assault anyway. And if you have sizable force, you can perform flash-build already.
And if you need flash build to build defensive siege – you do something wrong. Siege must be built and refreshed before enemy assault, not when assault in progress.

Visiroth.5914:

They can “fix” that right after they make it so ACs inside can’t fire at the door and hit rams/players outside.

And how you suppose to destroy enemy siege at door then? Defenders must have ability to hold larger assault force for some time.

Someone tested 30-10-0-0-30 axe-mace/axe-mace build? It may become valuable now.

Good groups use downstate as advantage, rally allies and use coordination to spike downed enemies. Bads – endlessly whine about downstate since release. Cannot prevent revive and spike downed? l2p.