Guild Wars 2

Immobilize what kills me. so useless gm trait for me as a power necro.

I need mobility and survivability. or immobilize break more useful imo.

If you have good helpful team and you are skilled with power necro you become a pain for the enemy team.

If you don’t have team you’ll have some good time with randoms and some pain time when peoples don’t help you survive focus just letting you die. so you can run back and die again to focus without any help from team. you can’t get away as every proff have better mobility than a necro.

Necro can do really good if your team works together with you. If you have bad team and enemy team is good they can make you useless till the end of the match and only thing you will do is downstate and run back and forth doing like 0 damage because you are so hard focused by your counters they send you back to downstate in seconds.

Necro is underpowered in mobility and defense skills for team pvp. ( need a babysitter for high tier gaming ) can’t run away with 1000 health like another professions and come back after 5 seconds with full health, can’t stealth, don’t have shield, no access to good stability, no access to good teleport, slow as hell, pvp start with 0 Life Force. etc.

assassin amulet not good for PvP necro. berserker is the optimal. and power necro DP is a must have. so we cant get fitg.

you can try fitg for fun but thats it.

yes you can use Line of Sight and most professions have good mobility ( not like necromancers) and can get away easy so you wasted a 3min cd then.

Down state was not affected by traits. it’s fixed now.

Life Blast is slow skill and have to face target.

Lich form is no problem for skilled players. They can avoid it and can counter it. Also Lich got a nerf 2014.

They fixed downstate to work as it should. but i getting stealth , quickness stomped a lot anyway so doesn’t really matter.

DS 1 have to do good damage because its a slow casting skill can be easily avoided and countered by skilled players.

celestial + necro = bad

What you are asking for is already in the game. It’s called premade.

Another way is if we get solo q and then you don’t face any premade if you want to play with random peoples against random peoples.

You can’t become best leaderboard hero. because it’s very luck based. But it can work 5v5 premade way or 1v1 With random players only thing that can happen is skilled random peoples will know your name if you are skilled and want to take you down asap and focusing you hard thats all. Most turret engi have very good win rate 60%-75% but they are OP for random gaming.

i don’t see the post anymore

You play alone as random you get random teammates and random enemy or premade against you.
You will get random win/loss ratio so leaderboard doesn’t matter. it doesn’t show anything other than the turret engineers farmed leaderboard to top with good win rates.
Also most of them are arrogant idiots that think they are good. Most of them insulting random peoples while they just afk at a point.

Solo q and solo leaderboard would be a bit better as there you can only join solo so both your and enemy team will be full random players. so premade joiners vs solo solved then.

Power necro isn’t low skill build it’s one of the hardest to play at high levels. just get out of low-mid range. also can be stressful as you are the only proff that 100% dies to a focus and a pain to play with a bad random team.

Low skill build is turret engineer and some others. That’s why the leaderboard top is full of turret engineers.

Turret engineers have players from 63% to 75% win rates. Power necros are about 50% maximum as i can see EU leaderboards power necros i meet with.

it happened before the fitg patch. nothing new.

Necro is very good but have survivability/mobility problems if someone from your team not babysitting you. It’s the “focus the necro meta” because its 100% fast and free kill when focused. So if your team is not good at helping you survive focus then good enemy team can make you total useless for the whole match and you will have a lot of downstate and running back and forth.

Turret engi needs a nerfhammer. too many turret farmers at the top of the leaderboards shows it too. Rewards players with too good win rate for no skill required. Turret have players with 72%-75% win rates. the worst ones are also like 55%

Thief stealth and fight reseting very high burst very annoying i cant regen back health that fast and he again on me with full health. my skills on cd after he reset. this was the best and most annoying thief i ever meet.

Mesmer with its very high burst and lockdown.

This change doesn’t affect me as i play power necro and this is useless for me. so “meh” change but atleast we got something.

What i need is some “oh kitten” button or traits that helps me to survive that “focus the necro meta” on my own in ranked. like every profession have something and can do with teleports, stealth spamming, resetting,invulnerability shields + good health regeneration, all of them have OP mobility if we look at it as Necromancer viewpoint. There is nothing more annoying when you are able to kill your counter after a hard fight. but he decides to run away with 2k health and you can’t catch it with your slow crap necro but when you are at 2k hp you just die and accept it. the list goes on. we have a long cast time 5k healing and start with 0 LF.

We are not weak but need some change so we don’t have to rely that much on teammates.

some players also asked for a start with some Life Force to not get totally kittened at start of the match lets say we get 25% LF to start with. with soul marks trait you can build up more LF at start if you wield staff. which would be a very nice improvement

soul marks doesn’t suck. the problem is we can’t have it all. vp, sm, ub ntd, dp and fitg. power necro need all of those imo for better survivability and same dps we have now with lower survivability i don’t think it would be OP because it still doesn’t solve our mobility problem. it would be just a little more survivability while also have access to death perception..

I’ve tried like every survivability build for powernecro and none of them as good as the squishy zerker with ogre runes. If you want survivability/mobility/being able to outlast and defend points better. than reroll any of the meta professions. there are no point to kitten your necro with some more armor or 3-4k health. you will die anyway in the next hit 1sec later and also you cant kill anyone with your kitten necro so your damage is close to useless for your team.

1. Fix Necromancer. give it some survivability/mobility just like every proffessions have. this change could make necromancer useful for teamplay and viable for high tier.

2. Rated solo for peoples like me without PvP team. so premades cant farm my random unorganized teams.

3. Heavy armored profession have too much mobility. I got used to it. but i still find it joke and also looks like a joke everytime that chicken heavy armor speedhack away. they can run away like a speedhacker in heavy armor if they can’t kill me. ( Thief okay because it’s not heavy armored) but when the same happens to me they can finish me because i don’t have good get away skills as a dark magic caster im something with as much mobility as a heavy armor should have. i can’t call it “fair”

yes true. but the moments when you don’t have LF and your enemy needs 1-2 hits to die but they don’t because vamp rune proc, they regen health back and finish you.

vampiric is not that strong. actually you’ll lose hard fights because of this rune. the rune proc a lot when it shouldn’t proc and you cant finish your low hp target because you become a mist and you die because they have good health regen and you are in mist form can’t do nothing. so it’s 100% in situations like this you will die because of this rune.

Jugnificent.2061:

iKeostuKen.2738:

I can agree with the chill of death thing. Atm its a bit hectic, also not sure why a class with 2 hp bars really needs to hit for high damage.

I know this will never happen but I almost wish the would do away with deathshroud and just give us vigor, invuls, reflects and blocks like other classes. Deathshroud doesn’t prevent all damage like those skills do, making them MUCH more effective in anything other than a 1 on 1.

they not only have those. they also have teleports and stealth etc. lol

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yes it’s easy to play vs low skilled players. against skilled players it’s another story. you cant just spam a button. you need to know when what will happen and when what skill to use. you need to learn positioning and need to learn to survive as the only berserker class without good mobility/survivability skills.

why classes that have health regen, teleports, stealth, 100% damage reduction skills, 2000 range, stability. needs to hit for high damage?

nice troll. play one and you find out.

aren’t being unviable for most peoples to play it high tier means that it takes skill for peoples that can make it viable huh?

Laraley.7695:

Aenesthesia.1697:

Laraley.7695:

On the other hand, fresh air zerker ele does not have massive sustain. It would be nice if you stopped assuming things if as you already stated do not know the builds.

of course not, you go full glass cannon and complain that one necro skill you can totally predict (if you watch your health bar, which you stated you don’t because you cannot be bothered to, which is obviously the necro’s fault) hits for up to 4k when it’s probably the only spike in damage the power necro has (besides the sigil procs).

This is hilarious. The only damage spike? How about Life Blast hitting 7K with might stacked? How about CoD procs after eating one single LB? I said I do watch my hp but I do not wait for the exact moment when I reach 50% when it can procs with million others things.

Minimum mobility buff? Lol. No, people play it because terromancer actually takes skill unlike Power Necro.

Peace.

You don’t know nothing about power necros then. You say power necro doesn’t take skill so i want to see how you play your non skill required power necro in the high tier.

Ogre, Pack and Traveler runes for me. Necro best defense is offense. The ogre and summon dog very good. the pack rune swiftness duration and buff to allies when struck very good. Traveler rune very good if you want to drop warhorn for something else. Just take what you like. runes and amulets can’t save you. Nothing save you if you play solo. What save you is your random teammates if they do just a little bit teamplay ( They usually not. but sometimes happens if they have skills for pvp. and see that im getting ganked and trying survive. Most teammates i get ( don’t help, doing low dps, die fast, feeding the enemy over and over again, trying to be a solo hero, then dies. when have 2 points they cant defend. they going for far to die. then we lose other points too and lose the match ) I play in the top 40-100 range atm.

So select the rune you do the most damage with. Good luck with your necro.

yes because it’s fun

necromancer OP some guys make me laugh. it’s the weakest class to play top tier solo ranked. Necro just can’t survive dies in seconds to cc and dps. which means you are completely useless and enemy will disable you the whole game till the end. Thats why i training with 2 another char now. That class disadvantage is not fun. I think necro is best at low-to midhigh tier and totally bad at high tier. Why should anyone with brains take a necro to team instead of another classes that can survive and outlast better while also having good dps?

It’s just sad i can’t play power necro at high tier to succeed. I got bored of being useless for my solo team. rank 40 the best i got. after that facing enemy teams that CC me and instant send me back to start point and this going on till the match ends. I’m not able to use my melee weapon. i would die even faster then i do now. I’m not able to do damage when facing good teams. All i can do is trying to run away from high mobility classes zerg because i getting very hard CC lock and dps or when i downed respawn and run back. Thats all i can do with that class which is not fun anymore :/ And peoples like the OP want a class nerf . i will learn one of the meta classes now.

Jelzouki.4128:

Forsaker.9213:

rainisword.7860:

Dont worry you’re getting greatsword.

So what , necro in higher tier pvp cant use melee weapons simply becouse he lack thing that every other class in this game have access to like blick , invul , mobility , stability etc.

At power necro is just 1 trick pony

basically

this is why the profession needs a buff. at rank 40-50 i starting to find myself close to useless. yes i play solo.

your team squishy no meta vs meta high survivability. it’s a default lost game for you. unlucky. nothing you can do about it. maybe if we get solo queue so both teams are 100% sure random non premade players.

Maybe something if the system check for player class and traits and only allows something like 2 melee dps 2 ranged dps + someone that can fill the bunker role for both teams.

and maybe only allow zerker for the melee and ranked dps. bunker can choice anything he likes.

maybe it’s me but i just can’t see the problem here.

Everyone that wants to nerf anything that necro has. Actually need to learn to play or stop pvp. It’s easy to kill necro with meta classes for players that have a little bit skill for pvp. When i changing to d/d cele ele or any other meta after playing my necro. I’m like what could i do if i had that much survivability and mobility on my necro..

Necromancer isn’t even part the meta. It’s the profession that require very high skill to play and survive at competitive level with the survivability and mobility issues. It actually needs buff for better defensive/mobility skills/traits so they can get away when kitten happens and kite enemies and regen health like some other profession can do.

+1 We are too vulnerable to CC’s. It’s fun to see when enemy playing ping pong ball with your character. NOT!

Sweeps.3059:

Hey guys I am thinking of making a necro and have been watching some pvp videos.
On the power necro videos they always seem to have a staff. Is a staff a power build weapon as I would of thought it would be axe/X dagger/X
Please explain. Thanks

P.s. what race should i be :p

both works. it’s up to your playstyle. staff is dps/support necro. the another is the pure dps necro.

The one you like.

Roe.3679:

Grinding to dragon in hotjoins or custom arenas does not make you good, skilled, or knowledgable. Hotjoin is completely different in so many ways from unranked or ranked it’s not really the same discussion. Either way I think I see why you have such skewed views of necros in Pvp.

To OP, you can make power necro work if you work at it. Just don’t expect it to not be a bumpy ride from time to time.

I’ve made it to work. Working hard and in the top 40-50 range EU solo playing only power necromancer. It’s very hard now facing a lot of good meta class players/premades.
When i see enemy comp is something like Double turret, Elementalist, Guardian + ( insert class here ) or something like that. I’m like oh kitten. The random team i get usually not able to kill this comp. Our random team can’t do enough dps to kill anyone. Elementalist and DPS Guardian ( and maybe the “insert class” too. ) is on me 24/7

it would be nice but. i have better idea.
show the class icon the player plays most of the time not the one actually he is playing today.

so we will see then every celestial classes at the top of the leaderboard. especially engineers

DeWolfe.2174:

I’m not a big sPvP player, in fact, I really don’t like it much. Though because it’s this weekends “it thing” it’s taken me out of WvW for a bit. I tried rolling a thief and running every other “meta” build with low to moderate success. After an annoying stretch of loses I went and brought in my wvw power Necro and doing much better. The only down side to Necro’s is our lack of life force at the start of a match. I really think we should start each match full but, that’s a whole other conversation. Though even without life force, I was able to beat a cele ele right from the start. So a Necro can take on some meta builds right out of the gate.

Are you sure it was a cele ele? sounds like it was a low skilled one that probably eat a hamburger while playing. When i played ele necromancer are free kills. Why? because the class can outlast a lot better. necromancer just dont have any chance and so easily kiteable by more experienced players ( LoS) to death with most classes. i had so much regen protection and mobility.

Celestial necro didn’t worked for me. I need zerker amulet to try keep up with other classes burst. It was ok till faced teams which had very high burst players. The problem is the survivability i get is not worth the damage loss and will die fast against anyone that doing high burst. Usually its up to what kind of team i get. If i get bad team that extra survivability don’t save me. but more damage helps. with good team that works together my survivability with berserker is okay. maybe it’s just me. but also hiding in plague form while your team getting bursted down, i don’t think it’s the best support you can do for your team.

that bug is annoying. especially in ranked matches.

Thanks the replies. It’s really viable playing solo ranked. atm i’m rank 123 power necro on leaderboards only playing with power necro. I’m not sure how far i can go without team. but im happy with the results and will see how far i can go as a solo power necro player.

Corrupt Boon isnt good to have for power? There are a lot of cele elementalists and dps guardians that like to focus a necro i find that very hard counters.

What you guys recommend me for skills to take? 2x stun breaks + corrupt boon? or double wells + stun break or other?

What is the best Adept trait in Curses and what is the best Master trait in Soul Reaping? i have Reapers Precision and Soul Marks

I feel like other classes are better. My problem with necro is lack of mobility and defensive skills or health regen. Every other classes have it so they have good survivability and good burst too. Even if i get the skilled players that play other classes to low hp they regen way too much health back or run away or they use the run away, teleport, stealth, regen come back to me using their mobility and burst me to death tactic. So im not able to finish off my enemy that even very hard matchup if they dont run away, but impossible if they do. which makes me feel underpowered. So where in pvp power necro good at? 1v1 other classes do it better. 5v5 other classes do it better.

You recommend me keep playing necro solo ranked? or play other class for solo ranked? i don’t want to be in disadvantage. Thanks

As a necro it’s only good vs non skilled players. What you get by this amulet is maybe.. you survive 1 more second and have low dps for high level play.

I want solo arena too and also leaderboard for solo q. so we can see who are the top players without premades. This leaderboard fails here. Its for premades. Without premade you never get in top 10. Even if you are the best player in the game “maybe” you get something like top 200? only playing with pug’s. I want to see some new yet unknown “skilled” player names too. and i like to see what are the known players ( R O M, Sizer, Zombify etc. ) can do on their own with pugs. I want more accurate statistics so i can see what rank i can get without meeting premade groups. I think it would be fair.

hope you understand my english skills

Foefire is not good if you are soloQer. Most of the time i get low skilled teammates or premades so i lose alot of matches on Foefire. My random teams dont know what is teamplay on this map. They run like headless chickens and fighting away from capture points and dont care about it and they do terrible low dps to enemy players.

Ok a little bit today statistics comes here.

Foefire Matches Played / Win / Lose
20 / 7 / 13 ( most of the time useless teammates that cant kill anyone and don’t help. + premades.
Niflhel 17 / 12 / 5 ( 4 close to win ) ( 1 useless team. )
Silent Storm 8 / 4 / 4 ( 1 close to win ( 1 useless team. )
Kyhlo 10 / 6 / 4 ( 1 close to win) ( 3 useless team )

I can’t solo rank up because losing most of my matches on Foefire. :/