Guild Wars 2

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i dont know if i should be worried or laughing….

both?

Fractals is by far the best for karma. It just requires a group and at least some level of intelligence.

Edge of the mists is easy and requires very little thought.

No Pulse.2967:

I wanted to tell everyone my story and why I’m still here, but I guess I should be talking about food instead

please do actually.

i was writing one up myself. and strangely it involves food too

(((shakes fist violently in general direction of Dungeon forum)))

GAH!!!!!!

i am blaming all of you!!!!!

YOU!!!!!!

Tonight of all nights. After reading and following this woefully off topic ( but still fun ) thread.

EVERY SINGLE STEAK WAS ORDERED MEDIUM WELL OR WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!!

I have waygu beef,
I have Grass fed organic friggin happy cows WAYGU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(((sobs uncontrolably)))

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Agony

handy reference for numbers.

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:)

The best and most efficient pizza on the planet…

ready for this….

The most Wonderfull and amazing and perfect pizza…..

Is the one that was made FOR you, and is sitting in front of you Awaiting arrival into your belly….

(( huddles in a corner crying ))

Lightsbane.9012:

Pregnantman.8259:

Clearly there are other expectations of the active necromancers fulfilled that makes the community going. It is not the necromancer’s fault that warriors have it all. By that account, a warrior can represent all “real” classes.

you could say that actually.
best at applying bleeds
best at ranged dps via the undervalued rifle
best at melee dps via their entire list of melee weapons
best at escaping via whatever gs#5 is called, condi immunity, damage immunity
best at staying alive via the above and healing signet(great idea making that a thing anet)
the rest of the classes do okay at best with any of those, but not all of them.

hmm….

bleeds, I might give you that one.
ranged DPs is severely outshone by Elementalist and Engineer.
Melee Dps, to many variables to consider. Still outdone by a Thief and Ele though
Escaping, perhaps thief can still do it better.
Immunities I can give you to an extent, simply because without those skills the class would be utter garbage.
Healing signet is really, really not all its cracked up to be.

Wise man once said that Warriors are the solid B average student. while its peers are doing AP courses, but failing Gym.

deSade.9437:

One day they walk up to you and say…
“Magister, I don’t know what’s wrong with me! I can’t stand pugs anymore! Everytime I see a bearbow my blood pressure goes through the roof; everytime I see a staff guardian I feel like I’m going to snap! I keep making up excuses not to play with my kittened guildmates in nomad, and I’m starting to have dirty thoughts about lupi! What should I do? Is it a bad thing?”
At that point I’ll just pat them on the head, smile and say: “My dearest, it’s incurable.”

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(( sobs uncontrollably in a fetal position in the corner ))

Black Box.9312:

. It’s like having a fine china plate with polished silver utensils, but no food to eat with it. And the players are getting very, very hungry.

quoted for absolute truth.

((( fries Forum bug in week old Fry oil )))

geh!

IvanTheGrey.2941:

ohh and if you join in on Ivan’s Arah tour, (( eyes Danica and LIlith ))

and I somehow manage to make it.

not only do you get him to sing for you but we talk about food the whole way…

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that, was awesome

http://dulfy.net/2014/08/08/gw2-ready-up-upcoming-warrior-and-thief-class-changes/#more-102915

think thats all of them.

Choxie runs perplexity.

just something to get an idea of what it can do.

its confusion on interrupt.

so….

interrupt them.

Necomancer interupts via fear, warhorn 4 and in some cases spectral grasp. I dont know if the Flesh Gollom charge procs it though???

To answer the Original question,

to be a good Fractal Necromancer. these are the things you need.

First:

6,6,0,0,2
or
4,6,0,0,4

Berserker gear, Scholar runes, Dagger main with Warhorn and focus on swap.

Second:
An elementalist, A Warrior, A thief. and a Gaurdian.
Preferably Some of your friends or guild mates. That don’t mind carrying you and having you leech on the run.

If this is all a YoLo run?
then it doesnt matter anyway, go and have some fun

well of suffering, is mediocre to low dps. vuln application is low. 28 seconds is a long time.
Well of power, conditons to boons… what conditions? 40 seconds is a REALLY long time.
Well of darkness, yes it is a blind. 40 seconds is a REALLY long time.

The nuts and bolts to it.
Every one of us Here Loves our necromancer.

dearly

so much in fact that we are WELL aware of the fact that is not not usefull in 2 game modes. Being Dungeons and Fractals. They are a Selfish class.

that does not change the fact that we still love them very much and truly do wish they would be given something to allow them to be more effective in the places many of us enjoy.

IvanTheGrey.2941:

So, I’m just curious to know something: When you’re soloing Lupi after your pug has died a miserable death, what’s the max grubs you guys have finished him off with? I think my record is 6 right now. Just curious to see what y’all have experienced.

not exactly what you are looking for but I challenged DnT awhile back.

:)

if you have not already seen it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Ready-Up-Episode-19-8-8-Noon-PDT/first#post4269861

warrior and thief are next.

Godzzila.3752:

Yes. The only spec that is viable in this game is pure DPS.

Incorrect.

try again.

Rasimir.6239:

winterchillz.2564:

Just coming out of SE pt1 “ZERK WARR/ELE/GUARD” party. Decided to pug a dungeon for dem lulz .

Next time you decide to pug SE please give me advance warning. I still need a ton of tokens from there to outfit the thousands of asura that I leveled to 80 in the last few weeks when real life made me too casual to seriously run dungeons .

Back to general dungeon topics: I had a very casual dungeon weekend trying to level my daughter’s elementalist from 73 (I think) to 80. After two paths of AC we were left with a 4-man group, and since my husband was busy preparing lunch, I spontaneously decided to hand over the elementalist to my daughter on dad’s computer, jump on my mesmer and drag her into the dungeons with us.

We then proceeded to do AC 3 and TA up with an 11-year-old who had never been in a dungeon (or even in any serious group content) before and had pretty much only stumbled around with her elementalist until then (took her 1.5 years to even get to level 73). It went surprisingly smooth, I only had to take over for the TA skips, the rest (including producing fgs and icebow whenever mom told her to do so ) went better than with some pugs I have encountered.

Many thanks to winterchillz and his guildies who went through those dungeons with us! You made a young lady very happy (and her old mum enjoyed herself, too ).

Awesome!!!

:)

ahh thats what I was wondering.

I have heard that it does ok for the extra silver in Edge, and WvW for fights. it tends to add up.

But when dungeons are concerned I just never really paid attention to any coin that trash dropped or what not. So on those occasions where you DO kill off the trash you get an extra bit of something.

meh,

i was a total PHiW

Necro in Arah!!!

Thank you Ivan, it was a grand ol time.

especially the alphard pull on Jerus

nearlight.3064:

RIP my gilded infusion from last summer

How do those work?

been pondering the thought of picking up a infusion for tooling around.

Liewec.2896:

Rozbuska.5263:

Lol so many so called “experts” on dps:-D I must always smile when warriors thinks they are actualy good in dps:-)

you’re obviously playing a different game.

I did the same fight on my Necromancer in less time.

bad example attempt, try again.

spoj.9672:

Great Cornholio.7529:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toyhtj0HPU8

Necro vs Warrior DPS

A lot of people think necros are crap but they’re really not so bad…

I die a little inside everytime someone links that video.

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you and me both.

Prysin.8542:

best single target DPS – Longbow

not in the slightest.

As someone who is working the Arah Solo with a necromancer…

yes it is painfullly slow. I find myself switching builds and or weapon sets between each encounter depending on the path. Or even for certain trash runs.

I am gonna do it though….
cause if i can do it on a necro, everything else should be easy right???

right?

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Jerus.4350:

Ropechef.6192:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Ropechef is perhaps my favorite necro of all time (sorry Spoj!)

Chef is great we all need more chef in our lives.

One of these days we will on show up at comic con in fashionable dungeon attire and chef will prepare sushi for us and we will be merry.

Anime Fetish Ball.
:)
Gotcha covered.

I assume there is a no hands rule there right?

Plethora of chopsticks.
I need to go do these again. The restaraunt has been keeping me late enough on the nights they run to not allow for it. (shrug) meh.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

I don’t deserve to be among that list of greats! I can’t even solo lupi!

:D

well hell!

Come Asura, let us lock ourselves in Arah till we can!!!!

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Ropechef is perhaps my favorite necro of all time (sorry Spoj!)

Chef is great we all need more chef in our lives.

One of these days we will on show up at comic con in fashionable dungeon attire and chef will prepare sushi for us and we will be merry.

Anime Fetish Ball.
:)
Gotcha covered.

IvanTheGrey.2941:

Ropechef.6192:

IvanTheGrey.2941:

So, I essentially hear that people want the condi cap to be raised, and the implementation of said conditions to be re-organized. Would this stop the complaining (couldn’t think of a more tactful word, I’m sorry) about beserker gear?

Yessss…..

Raise the condi cap. this would be wonderfull. So that when I am in WvW, I can now epidemic 100 bleed stacks to 5 unsuspecting souls. Instantly melting them and having them come crying to the forums that Conditions are over powered!!!

I like this plan.

So, this would, of course, be over-powered. What do you think that it should be raised by? 5? 10? 25? What would be reasonable? How would you deal with people who have less condi damage than you applying bleeds/burns/torment/poison/etc over yours?

just my personal opinion:

I dont think it needs to be raised at all. There are only 2 formats where Condition builds just dont work well. World boss events, and Power based Dungeon Runs. adjusting the cap to “fix” only 2 methods of play over everything else. would prove to be a very tricky situation in balance in PvP and WvW.

I just personally think that Conditions are fine the way they are. Maybe tweak it so that Poison and Burning is Stackable vs Durational. might offer some alternative methods of play.

((Shrug))

the first “sister of Death”

Shimai No Tenshi

((twitch))

Even the Devs said

" Leave the elder threads rest"

geh,

IvanTheGrey.2941:

So, I essentially hear that people want the condi cap to be raised, and the implementation of said conditions to be re-organized. Would this stop the complaining (couldn’t think of a more tactful word, I’m sorry) about beserker gear?

Yessss…..

Raise the condi cap. this would be wonderfull. So that when I am in WvW, I can now epidemic 100 bleed stacks to 5 unsuspecting souls. Instantly melting them and having them come crying to the forums that Conditions are over powered!!!

I like this plan.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

LFG After Dark – Ropechef Edition

Problem solved.

If you dig a little, in that darker side of your mind, and a little Japanese….

you might figure out where Part of my name came from.

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Looking for Group, After hours. Where the Pale skinned tattooed Norn stands under a shimmering corner light. Lightly tracing her finger along the hilt of a dagger that is as big as your torso.

“Do you have it?” she asks slyly, " Zojja and Scholar?"

Pursing her lips and with a wicked Grin,

“Perhaps we can have some fun then…”

Laar.5476:

LFG After Dark

I think I will see about making this episode happen.

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Except that “after dark” my time is not always after dark for everyone else…. hmmmm

i need to get some recording stuff… ( anyone got any good suggestions))
and work on my Barry White….

personally i think we will not see anything with a “reveal”. In my opinion we don’t need it. as we already have at least 2 attacks that will target and hit regardless of stealth.

As for the rest of it… I am hopefull. but I just dont know what to really expect from it all. Much like Spoj said, I would love to see some cast times and after casts tweaked. and some kind of group utility. Someone once suggested a ferocity buff simmilar to Spotter, Or Empowered allies. But for ferocity. By doing that it would offer a unique thing that only Necromancers can do allowing us a place is some team comps. At least for PvE. Or at least better options that what we have now.

we could go back and forth and on and on as we have been. But the reality is that we will just have to wait and see….

((fingers crossed))

I realize this is the necromancer forum…..

but Jeebus.

Very cool!,

/15 somethings.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

2 professions per ready up episode.
final changes after they talk about them.

WHEN they do Necromancers. is unknown. sometime in the next few weeks. or however it is that the schedule the “Ready Up” segements.

Fluffball.8307:

The first day this releases WvW is going to be comprised entirely glass LB rangers instagibbing each other.

Edit: And I will be one of them.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Ropechef.6192:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2bpy0i/ready_up_upcoming_engineer_ranger_changes/

its beginning…..

What are necromancers?

you mean when?

From what I understand they are doing 2 professions per ready up over the next while. So I would guess sometime soon’ish

after they talk about it though.. WHEN all the suggested changes happen is anyones guess.

OUTSTANDING!!!!

do us proud!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2bpy0i/ready_up_upcoming_engineer_ranger_changes/

its beginning…..

that…

was….

Epic.

Very cool, thanks for sharing

random thoughts….

Personally I think that it would be very, VERY tricky to add items in the gem store that would be exclusive to WvW that would not be pay to win. However thinking on it a little… perhaps not…

I think having a “Keep” or “tower” skin would cause alot of issues technically. HOWEVER….

Siege skins… now we have something. 4 to 800 gems or so. for a Permenant skin that when you drop an arrow cart, It looks like a confetti cannon. will all the poof and stuff. (( think Quip )) Arrows themselves are the same. but send them all with a little oompa.

Catapults… water balloon launcher??

Flame ram… an actual Flaming Ram you tell to head butt the door?

Treb…. a Big giant that stand there and throws rocks and cows?

you get the idea.

Skinning keeps would be tough, But skinning Siege might be a far better way to go about it.

Personally i would also tend to agree that there needs to be some WvW EXCLUSIVE skins via either a metric crap ton of Badges. or Specific rank or.. whatever. Make them hard to get. so that when you see some one with it you know they have put in their time.

If you want to make money, personally i think the siege skins are the way to go. If you want to be more invested and have others be more invested. Give something that you can ONLY get in WvW.

((summons Leeto))

Dagger shroud.

Slight variant in some of the Power builds used in WvW and PvP. I don’t have the actual build lying around, perhaps Leeto Will poke in or someone else??

Edit: found it,
it is a touch old but the principles are more or less the same.

Forum link:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Leeto-s-power-dagger-PVP-build/first#post3475240

Vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZ0bT82wzc

GOOD LUCK!

I counted 5 builds in that guide.

learn to read.

It is a Dungeon Guide which is what Symke was asking for. Yes it is geared more to the fast run style of play. However the skills and technique apply to PvE in general.

I understand you are trying to advocate Venoms as a viable support build. And it certainly can be. If you have a party built Solely around YOU.

Symke:
Thief is a wonderful class that has a place in all of the game modes. And a very effective one at that. If you are looking at doing dungeons more than anything I still strongly suggest that guide. If for no other reason than Knowledge of what you can do now, via weapon skills. and what you can do later, as you level up and have your traits unlocked. If you choose to run varients on the sets by all means do so. Have fun with it. Experiment, its what those guys did in the beginning. We just have the benefit of their knowledge now .

GOOD LUCK!!!
HAVE FUN!!