Guild Wars 2

Vapour.7348:

Plural, more than one thief in my team. It usually ends in a loss unless the other team has a similar amount. I’ve had more success with other classes stacking but thieves always end up in a loss.

This is for ranked solo queue. And what bothers me is that a lot of thieves haven’t realized that having more than one in the team is a liability. And that they hardly ever bother to swap.

I made this video for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPeVAYRXcMo

6:14 if you just want to see the final scores ;D

witcher.3197:

Actually this forum does feel like a hipster cult. :P You have an entire guild/forum worhsipping MtD and Lockdown hating on everything that’s mainstream.

Gross misrepresentation, but your ongoing hangup never the less :D

The reality of a mesmer being able to constantly hit a target is fantasy. The amount of kiting/duking/disengaging we have to do the moment pressure is applied is incredibly high. So unless you’re free AA casting due to having a friend tie up your target, you can’t expect perma’slow. Even then, if you’re running with the freedom to freecast, there are better, more troubling builds you could bring under this setup. Anything with straight up burst, or high sustain DPS for example to just eliminate the target from the show immediately.

..and this only after the final numbers come out -_-u

StickerHappy.8052:

Curunen.8729:

StickerHappy.8052:

FYI. Anything is viable in casual pvp. Who decides whether something is viable or non viable in that tier? Noone. Except you.

Remember it is casual.

So how many mesmers play top tier pvp here?

I put up my hand and say I don’t – I’m a fairly casual solo player so when it comes to highly organised team play with voice communication compared to mute solo pugs there’s no contest and tbh have no ambition to do so either.

So If you ask me, you can play anything you want as long you are doing well with it

I stand by my mad Kshot warrior skillz.

15+ kills later, match victory, top scorer – Love it.

Oh man, a shoutout. I’m famous! :D

I Rifle Sw/WH in PvP as roaming DPS role. Very effective if you know what you’re doing and a lot of fun :D

Terrahero.9358:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

It requires no gold investment to get those traits,

Gold = Time, one way or another. And to get gold you can spend time farming dungeons or orr or champions, whatever. The masteries essentially cost time as well.

The argument still stands. Time spend in PvE gets you a statistical advantage in WvW over those who have not spend this time.
Similarly time spend in WvW gets you a statistical advantage over those whe have not spend this time.

One is okay, infact a wvw dev came out and fully endorsed it citing “not to want to invalidate people’s time spend”. Yet the other is now considered not okay, and it’s okay to invalidate peoples time spend.

I am okay with the removal of the Applied-buffs, but there should also be a nerf to ascended gear then.

This is probably going to be very hard for you to swallow but the flaw in your logic is the assertion that both parties (if they can even truly exist), WvW’rs and PvE’rs stand mutually exclusive in their game modes and “aren’t equal”. I say this as a hardcore WvWr, the reality is that we’re all just players with (relative) equal opportunity to achieve and obtain the same things as one another. Even if there are various ways of going about doing something, currently everyone has the same access to all content in the game. What you choose to and not to do with your time is on you. If you want to go a short or long route, that’s on you. If you don’t want to farm fractals in favor of more time spent in wvw, that’s on you. Simple fact, hard to grasp apparently.

darkaheart.4265:

i apologize for what i said :/ maybe the whole kiting with rush just bother me

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/

Read that. Don’t ever be bothered again. :D

I’m 1:04 in and stopped just to say- that save at the start was epic.

18 matches ever on Ranger, 11th win, its a super simple easymode class to play. You hit the skill ceiling about the third match you play and its all profit from there. Once you’re 18 matches deep and a super pro like me you’ll fully carry your team.

https://youtu.be/pOizCMxVXOU

I do it for the daily but my soul still withers after playing it : D
OP? In need of balance? Eh, I don’t know.

I watched about 1 minute of it or something and my spidey senses started to tingle

Must read-
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-How-to-make-a-half-decent-vid/first#

Only real reason to take up crafting is for ascended gear.

Take Light Armor.

Take Either the one that produces staves, scepters, focus etc, or Weaponsmith for a Greatsword. In fact eventually take both.

You can google gw2 crafting guide to give you the best meant to reach 400-500 and how much it’ll cost you (its not cheap).

I got some sneak peak Mes v Reap footage. Should pretty much sum up how things are gonna go.

;D

Here’s me vs Tea (using the build- he’s way better with it than I am. Also uses vamp runes) on a kshot war, which might give a bit of additional perspective.

skip to 1:18 for some actual full length fights :p

Punia.2469:

What’s your build mate?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAqaVl0Mp6p9Ox7J8PNBNRt9wdBVo3hxXUGaFAA-TZBGwAIOCAJeAAr2fAwpAIaZAA

Naix.8156:

okay, now back to our regular posts on amazing tales of interrupts and torment stacking.

Skilled hands no, interrupt weak yes.

Here was a fun fight from today. Fun for me, not the incoming necro XD

Also featuring guest appearance by Tealot (pssst, fashionably late -_-u)

Hi, Newb thief here. When I play Thief I like to run duel pistols because I like what’s best in life. The smooth feel of duel shafts with long barrels makes me feel like the lord of my own keep, and if there’s one thing a thief should feel its the righteous standing of his own position. That’s what being a low down, two bit, dirty thief is all about.

So here’s my buddy Tealot and I running a duo p/p in pvp (if you’re into that sort of thing). Live vicariously through us as we bust out the akimbo assassin style. And hey, if you want to expertly carry your team to victory, roll out some mad bad kitten duel pistol skills too ;D

http://youtu.be/KPeVAYRXcMo

Fay.2357:

witcher.3197:

Fay.2357:

Take a look at the PU condie build that I have here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-A-Mesmer-Guide-to-Solo-Queue/first#post4060868

If you want to read the guide, it also includes tips and general instructions on how to play it effectively in PvP.

Maim shatter can also be used fairly effectively….but that build on metabattle is rather poorly planned out. If you want to run maim shatter, do it with this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWlknpMtFpxRNcrNSpBh6ykmmSyA8gSOiyB-TJRHwAw2fIZZABnCAAPBAA

Tbh, I don’t think it matters. Any form of PU and MtD is bad in Conquest but can do well in WvW.

They’ll be bad if you try to play it the way a shatter mes is played. They take a different role and require a different strategy.

Pretty much this, and its true of every mesmer build. Mesmer builds become very stylized and a players approach has to change dramatically. This is why many mesmer players gravitate toward some builds and not others, or do well on some builds and poorly in comparison to others. Also changing builds and learning a new one is a huge task.

Reading you, Witcher, all I see is “Im not good at MtD.” You don’t even need to get into a long discussion of PvP, its meta, levels of play, and the various shortcomings. Forums well aware of the distinctions already.

Lucky.9421:

Hi guys. New to mesmer, but not spvp. I have about 500 games as warrior and am wanting to start branching out to other profs.

I am wondering what is suggested for someone that is just starting on mes. I was looking at the IP builds listed on metabattle, but they seems a little squishy to start with.

Full builds or links would be appreciated. Up to date videos would be ace if possible.

Most Mesmer builds are some form of squishy. So you have IP Power Shatter, and MTD condi shatter. The latter is a little tougher but still not what you might call tanky.

Then you’ve got PU builds which have great survive but the obvious drawbacks of stealth. We’ve got various Lockdown builds, an/or interrupt builds. CI 4, 4, 6 is the big one here, or Phantrupt in my sig for a straight up rupt play, though that’s full glass.

Then there’s some other options like the signet build, or various support build setups.

I know you want build links etc but the question is what do you want to play? What role do you want to fill? Mes is best for roaming DPS, other classes can fill other roles better, but if you want to go that route with Mes anyway what are you trying to do? Or just tell us what weapons you prefer.

Zexanima.7851:

I’m actually looking forward to putting a lot of time into learning a profession that is challenging. I just want to make sure my efforts wont be for naught. I don’t want to spend my time mastering the sword to find out everyone else is driving tanks around, if you follow me.

Well, they are driving tanks. It’s just that Mesmer has the capability to infiltrate those tanks and stab the drivers with their sword. As you can imagine there’s a sufficient amount of work involved.

Only you. Every phant gets his pitiful 1s distortion on summon.

So you got hit twice by a full glass LB ranger? Yes please, 15.7k killshot possible on these guys without any might XD -Much fun
https://youtu.be/uOSKkTf-U8c?t=32

Hmm, unless you’re running dueling there’s no reason to go with the condi alternative, which is Rabid. Dueling, of course, gives you DE, sharper images for bleed stacks from illusions, and vigor on crit. Which all go great in condi builds and shatter builds. So as far as running DIRE goes, yeah you’re golden.

Mes is pretty much zerk, assassins, rabid, dire, with possible some valk, cav, or knights mixed in if you want a bit more health/armor. We’re an all or nothing sort of class with these stat setups.

So like, writing up an entire specialization is a lot of work, and I’m totally lazy. However, since rifle has been thrown around I thought I’d do 5 rifle skills. The theme is something along the lines of curving reality.

Weapon: The M-1 Rifle

1. Autoattack: 1200 range, Piercing: targets 5, Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile (20% chance)
2. Orbit Rounds: Fires a volley of shots that curve to their target (so you can fire them while running away, or around a degree of a corner- i.e. Effective while kiting https://youtu.be/U7wOX2WqbXE?t=22 )
3. Barrel Roll: Barrel roll forward (evade), summoning a rifle clone at your starting location, and strike your foe in the butt with a kick. Applies vulnerability (no pun intended, but what the hell ;D ), grants swiftness 8s.
4. Phantasm: Summons a phantasm that fires a cluster round. The first target hit springs 3 more shots to hit nearby targets, each of those creating three more shots that bounce to hit adjacent targets (including back to).
5. Temporal Fake: 1/2 cast time, Mesmer fires an animated shot that doesn’t land, instead sending the bullet off into the universe. Skill changes to Temporal Shot which lasts for 10s. Temporal Shot re summons the bullet and upon impact blows back the target with incredible force (240 radius effect, max targets 5). Temporal Fake can be cast at any range. 1200 range on Temporal Shot. (So you can effectively prepare this attack, even firing it at one enemy to fake/bait out a defenses, then fire the skill again, even changing targets, to land it.

Tealots.6095:

Ross. We will never give up on our terrible toons. Especially ones that play builds that no one else does. Though, to be honest, you can slap a shortbow on any thief and they will be effective.

Thief OP.

What we’ve really got to do is get on TS and start utilizing your dark fields so that I can kshot from stealth. Also thief imob from stealth on the shortbow so they can’t dodge. We’re actually amazing, we just haven’t unlocked our potential yet :D

Tealots.6095:

I really need to start playing my mesmer again…

And give up on this? :O – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOSKkTf-U8c

Here’s another phantrupt full match
http://youtu.be/2j6DwV-PIuE

Minstrel was already done, and really well :p
http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Minstrel

Chaos Archangel.5071:

I know this is hell of an old bump, but I figured instead of starting a new thread I could start editing and updating this one.

I’d like to incorporate lockdown videos from other builds/players (like you Ross) so if you guys have any of yer best stuff to submit, please do!

Ok Mr.Chaos, I threw this together for you

http://youtu.be/EyE9qQ9tugY

Me Games Ma.8426:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Consensus is:

Solo dungeons = conditions great.

For the proper hardcore dungeon run team meta = full power.

Build wrong at your own risk.

We know that for the base game but we don’t know how HoT will affect the meta. You saw that Dragonhunter hitting with 2.5k burning right?

I say: It is not something one should hope for to come into the meta but I hope it does…

Oh right, the future.

Oh and as for weapon skins, once you have a weapon skin you can skin any weapon of that type with said skin. So keep your anomaly.

Consensus is:

Solo dungeons = conditions great.

For the proper hardcore dungeon run team meta = full power.

Build wrong at your own risk.

It was a bit of a weird vid. I read the description once I got there and I kind of made sense, but yeah.

Vids for vids sake can be taken or left. If you want more attractive mesmer vids, either pick things people are interested in at the moment, or put your gameplay vids behind demonstrating a build. Although now might not be a great time given that people are anticipating changes, and current build/gameplay just feels old, outdated, and redundant with the changes on the horizon.

Also best way to get a response from people is to ask them questions. “Do I suck? How can I improve?” Or make a controversial statement, “This build is the new meta and I am King!”

Curunen.8729:

Will the 50% torment damage bonus to moving targets apply whether you use a Scepter or not?

I can’t seem to find that information, if it has been shared. If it is the case then surely it is a no-brainer over Sum of all Fears, which according to the specialisation calculator looks like it will have a built in ICD.

I’m planning to use sword/torch in a MtD build with the patch (because sword/torch is way more fun than scepter/torch), so would be interested to know if the torment damage boost will still work even if using sword instead of scepter.

Will apply. Scepter not necessary. No source. Just common sense.

Unless it specifically states “While holding a scepter”, in which case the trait wouldn’t be working while out of the weapon set. Which is inconsistent with other areas of the game trait-wise generally speaking.

StickerHappy.8052:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Fay.2357:

The interesting thing is that power block will put skills on a 15 second cooldown. If you interrupt that dash skill (which has a 1 second cast time), it’ll go on a cooldown 3 times longer than normal.

Plus you’ll take damage, possibly be stunned, imobed, chilled, crippled, slowed.

Yeah not seeing the problem v Necros. Loving those channels.

I’m calling it right now, it will get an ICD.

What exactly, that’s 5 traits revolving around an entire build concept. At the cost of other stuff to make it actually function.

Fay.2357:

The interesting thing is that power block will put skills on a 15 second cooldown. If you interrupt that dash skill (which has a 1 second cast time), it’ll go on a cooldown 3 times longer than normal.

Plus you’ll take damage, possibly be stunned, imobed, chilled, crippled, slowed.

Yeah not seeing the problem v Necros. Loving those channels.

EremiteAngel.9765:

MailMail.6534:

EremiteAngel.9765:

Reapers got a 10 second stability uptime on a 16 second cooldown. Reaper skill 3 with traits.

TRY TO INTERRUPT US NOW

You wouldn’t know this, because you’re a necro, but Stability doesn’t tend to be an issue for us either due to all the ways we can strip it. lol Have you ever seen Lich vs Mesmer?

@Ross
Yeah I get it, but if you’re letting conditions land on you as a Mesmer under most circumstances, you’re screwed regardless. But yes, chill is quite the nasty condition on Mesmer. I see more people taking Shattered Conditions than they ever did before.

its a pulsing 3 seconds stability every second for 8 secs.

let me see you strip that every second.

This is like saying signit of stone, or endure pain are a hassle. It just means 8 seconds of kiting for a mes, which passes pretty quickly.

StickerHappy.8052:

MailMail.6534:

Mesmer is a natural counter to Neco. These changes don’t really effect this fact. However, it definitely opened up a different style of play for Necros. Fortunately for Mesmers, we have MUCH better access to condition clear than we’ve ever had despite always having multiple sources of it.

Basically, the Necro vs Mesmer matchup will continue to favor Mesmer, but hey, at least we aren’t a hard counter to your class like someone is to ours…

Chill is really bad on mesmer if I must say so myself.

Actually Stickers has it right. Chill on Mesmer is THE worst. That said, the art will be in not letting it land, and an interrupt build (which is unlikely to have great condi clear) will be a strong counter to Reaper. It’s really no different than now. Avoid application, kite, apply passive phantasm pressure, and keep your distance in particular vs the slow, melee ranged Reaper.

Still, necros and those bloody duel health bars -_-u Also not going to be fun “1v1’ing” a Reaper yet he getting all his bonus damage vs multiple opponents due to clone/phant presence.

Aktium.9506:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Also i bet the shouts have cast times or their effects will be pathetic on long cds. Probably cast times cos anet will be worried about insta cast damage

They will be self rooting as well. And inflict a condition on the user like corruption skills.

Every shout animation will show the necro buckling forward crying while little green Q’s fall to the earth, to reflect the true feeling behind their players while using them.

Question: Do we still focus Reaper first on team engagement?

Judging by the score it turned out to be a sound strategy.

Is this a pro, or anti daily professions thread

Just stick to your thief and spam stealth, evade, backstab, insta cast steal, consume plasma, insta casts insta casts insta casts.

Or just go with what someone said and bring a lockdown mes vs a mes. Easiest class to destroy with an interrupt build- for a strange twist of irony.

Reaper will only be good with Mes buffing him. Everybody wins!

Then it’ll be us who can go invis off their dodge rolls!

Oh wait….

Toeofdoom.6152:

Your Dom/dueling/chaos build is a regular interrupt build, nothing to do with phantasms at all. :P You betrayed us! (Never mind in PvP I use mantra lockdown shatter)

Anyway I am concerned that style will be nuked by conditions… My plan is to go Dom/Duel/Insp, keep the mantras AND mantra of pain, running GS, Sw/P and duelist’s discipline. That allows massive burst, sustain and party support.

Pretty much, yeah. The game has changed. It’s not a question of recreating builds per’se but creating what’s gonna work.

If they do something with traited sword there may be precedent to take it which might hold on to some of the asthetic of this original build.

Also, I guess you could say “Phantrupt” has been absorbed into the new design of things.

Bubi.5237:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Because of the way things have changed Furious Interruptions is a solid contender, but shattered concentration is in the running too. Two reasons for this is because either you’re going to be running DE now (no point taking Harmonious Mantras anymore because Mender Purity is unacceptable)

Hmm.. without Chrono (like pre-HoT), will you use DE or HM? Just interested, I’ll prolly use HM more as I like to spam a bit too much MoD.

You could go without CI and Chaos all together, but these three lines make for the most punishing interrupt experience pre HoT.

Agreed (of coures! :P ), pre-HoT it’ll be the ultimate-lockdown-time!
No point taking other lines for any interrupt-oriented build.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Also If you’re not feeling comfortable with the CD’s due to the loss of the sword trait, a change to GS sw/pi might be appropriate. It’s more direct power with an adjustment/loss to that heavy rounded defensive strategim via the frequent blocks/daze’s.

To be honest I was thinking about a Staff with CI and phantasms, you will have condis on them so iWarlock can hit decend amount, but..
I change that image pretty fast “back” to the lockdown-builds with dom/duel/chaos staff+sw/p with iDuelists shooting everywhere..
I’ll prolly try your Duel-less build, but somehow it’s hard for me to imagine it.
(Which can be the best thing we can ask for, more viable builds are always good. )

Right now I’m running HarmMantras but I’m doing so with MoD, Healing Mantra, and Menders Purity. No matter what build Phantrupt is it no longer has access to Menders, so there’s no reason to take Healing Mantra. With that gone, taking HarmMantras the investment for 1 extra MoD just doesnt seem worth it vs DE. Like, I will have 1 less daze from my mantra, but I could open up more strategies with 3 clone diversions before launching into full phant summon mode. That’s a dramatic increase in daze/invuln/shatter utility and damage, which could be even more nasty if you take boon removal on shatters which also makes the build more team orientated and removes the barrier of stability. So yeah, you might not take DE or HM for another trait line, but if you’re taking Dueluing, HM just isnt on the cards anymore (unless you forgo decoy for mantra cleanse I guess).

Noss.4105:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Post Crono, I’d be dropping Dueling for Crono.

You think CI is worth all the good stuff you lose from dueling? It’s a great trait, but it seems to me like Dueling would be the most important traitline for the Phantrupt build. There’s not a single bad trait for your weapon sets and the minors are amazing.

But then again I’ve never played your build, so what do I know.

Well, to be honest I’m not married to CI. So yes, it’s quite possible Chaos will go instead of dueling. CI which contains BI is really the only reason to take this line, even though there’s some other tasty treats in there. To me it’s really a question of how devastating do I want a single interrupt to be? Do I need it to be that devastating? I don’t know yet.

Well lets look at it the two stages of release we’re going to get. First we get the trait tree changed pre HoT, and then the introduction of the Chrono tree post Hot.

So for pre HoT it’s pretty obvious. Do Du Cha
http://dulfy.net/2015/05/02/gw2-specialization-calculator-that_shaman/#profession=mesmer&traits=%22Domination%22,1,6,9-%22Dueling%22,3,5,9-%22Chaos%22,3,5,7

What you need to keep in mind is that, while the 15% phant damage in the dom line is tempting we’re actually getting +15% phant damage as a baseline which is coming out of the Inspiration line. So without traiting +15% we’re not loosing anything as things currently stand. We could further build on our phant damage, but we don’t have to. This means we can still take CS, and quite frankly I wouldn’t want to pass it up (100% stun 5s cd, longer daze otherwise = good).

Because of the way things have changed Furious Interruptions is a solid contender, but shattered concentration is in the running too. Two reasons for this is because either you’re going to be running DE now (no point taking Harmonious Mantras anymore because Mender Purity is unacceptable), or possibly dropping Dueling alltogeather for Chrono, in which case we’re going to capitalize on our shattering of Phantasms- good times. So that boon strip is suddenly looking like the better option (cause when did we need furious interruptions anyway. It’s like icing on a cake. Tasty, but in the end just extra sugar).

Next is Phant Fury vs Duelists Discipline. Tough choice and perhaps this is where Assassins amulet + a bloodlust stacking sigil really come into play. That bonus precision means your phants crit chance doesn’t completely suck without phant fury. But it might just come down to what’s practical and what the individual player can stomach. That duelist discipline just looks so good, assuming you can keep your rupts rolling to bring down those pistol recharge times. A solid volley of duelists could more than make up for a reduction in phant crits. I don’t know, I’ll have to wait and see.

Finally Chaos. It’s there for CI for a truly well rounded rupt/lockdown experience. Outside of that it’s going to bring a bit more sustain vs projectiles, or perhaps another rupt via Mirror of Anguish. You could go without CI and Chaos all together, but these three lines make for the most punishing interrupt experience pre HoT.

Post Crono, I’d be dropping Dueling for Crono. That’ll maintain the strongest rupt/lockdown setup while introducing the mentioned benefits above of shattering while maintaining the core strength of the build surrounding rupts and phantasms.
http://dulfy.net/2015/05/02/gw2-specialization-calculator-that_shaman/#profession=mesmer&traits=%22Domination%22,1,6,9-%22Chronomancer%22,2,5,8-%22Chaos%22,3,5,7

Also If you’re not feeling comfortable with the CD’s due to the loss of the sword trait, a change to GS sw/pi might be appropriate. It’s more direct power with an adjustment/loss to that heavy rounded defensive strategim via the frequent blocks/daze’s.

ASP.8093:

Ross Biddle.2367:

So yeah, the real problem is that there arent great movement options outside of chrono now

::whispers:: They should make the speed buff in Inspiration not suck.

Well, one thing they should do is make Compounding Celerity BASELINE. It doesnt fix the problem of traveling from A to B, but in combat more illusions out = more movement speed. Which is a good thing.

Compounding Celerity should also increase illusion movement speed.

selan.8354:

StickerHappy.8052:

Juba.8406:

JonPeters.5630:

Was hoping saying it once was enough but I’ll say it again. This is a work in progress. Try to give feedback based on the utility and synergy of the trait instead of the numbers. Slow every 3rd critical hit could also be every 10th critical hit. It could be 8s of slow instead of two. Obviously these numbers are an attempt to be accurate otherwise we wouldn’t even give them but a lot of this stuff will go up and/or down before HoT is released.

Jon

This trait “Time Marches On” is Too OP.

Compared to Warrior he have to spec into 2 trait lines (Defense+Discipline) and pick 2 Major traits to get a similar effect, but Chronomancer spec in 1 line and get it as a Minor trait.

Do you remember we got an offhand? My..the.. crying never stops….

its typical war. when we had glamour builds they cried the loudest before they even tried speccing into condi removal. now mes finally gets help with movement and cc and immediately the whining starts.
we have very little access to stability or swiftness and also our condi cleanse is not the best atm so this trait seems pretty good and balanced atm. we shall see when we have everything revealed and all classes specialisations and then people can go cry. but atm i think this trait is well needed for a wvw mesmer that got turned into a veil/portal bot because of war crying.

anyways i think the all is well trait sounds interesting if it was 2 condis as it is at the end after all, but then again i havent seen those wells yet or the cds.

time catches up sounds great for wvw as super speed would be needed in zergfights.

i do see chrono phantasma as an interesting option for shatter specs but the one i like the most for wvw mes as slowing the enemy is great in big fights. idk yet about seize the moment as 1 s quickness doesent appeal to me yet. maybe because im not planning on using a shatter build…

Heh. Wars also have swiftness on WH, and a signit elite with it. Best landspeed mobility skills (sword/GS) which dont require any trait line, just equiping a weapon :p. Weapon skills that remove movement inhibiting conditions. Yeah….

Fact is if you want this passive you have to go chrono. An entire trait line for a passive. So yeah, the real problem is that there arent great movement options outside of chrono now :D