Guild Wars 2

I always got the impression DB was kind of like a “bro, no bro, dude… bro” atmosphere. Plz confirm.

Aeros.2046:

I’ve actually been saying that it would be better for people to transfer down rather then up. That way we get more variety of fights.

Yes! come play with us Magz and BP, for ever and ever and ever and…

saiyr.3071:

Please transfer to Maguuma, thanks

I’m broke as a joke and sometimes I even like Kaineng. we can run into the sunset and PvE together if u want tho- take me on a romantic trip through arah exp mode

Ghoulina.2976:

True!

Some BP spoiled our fun. WTB sense of humour. :P

I got them to dance with me last week! Keep trying, it’s in there somewhere.

Ghoulina.2976:

Going to go walk around Mag BL as a quaggan right now, ebg is boring.

Isn’t that what you’re supposed to do all the time anyway? Is there a bad time to be a quaggan?

Evalana.5480:

SHAKA! Draw me a picture of the monkeys with bananas, dragons with spoons, and goats on fire while wielding hammers, all fighting each other while a princess stands alone in a tower crying because she saw it all go down…

This might be beyond the realistic capabilities of standard Dell mouse in MSPaint. To pen and paper!

I wanna hang out at this thread this week. All the cool people are here. Just pretend I’m from Maguuma.

ParaldaWind.4523:

This is a bit complex, but anything would be better than the crazy godlike deathmachines that arrow carts have become.

Definitely complicated, not realistic and probably offputting to a lot of people, I am biased because I have about 1K hours in WvW so it sounds more appetizing to me than a new person just trying it out, I’m sure many others have more time than me invested too. It comes back to what I read to be a crux of your argument that rabid AC use doesn’t really have any consequences right now. Spam 1 to win, see many white numbers, all the loot with none of the dying. Going out to fight, dying, and hoofing it back or waiting for a rez, however, are consequences. So you can choose to be tactical with your siege or you can choose to be tactical with your fight, but neither is guaranteed to win you anything if you don’t plan (assuming the limited use siege is in effect). Keeps siege in the meta game with all of its buffs and benefits, but you can’t just spam it.

LilMcGinley.3890:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Give Arrow Carts limited ammo.. problem solved. You want 20 ACs? congratz you just blew all your supply when you have to rebuild them

That’s interesting. Would you figure all projectile-based siege should have this? Do you think there could be a mechanic to feed it more ammo, but it would cost you?

For other projectile based siege.. it’s iffy. They don’t hold the same “lock down” power that ACs do. It would be really interesting to decide.. upgrade Garrison or treb Bay? Now you can do both really easily.

If there was a way to “reload” them, take it from available supply in the Keep but only after a worker upgrade. You upgrade your workers to “Ammunition Mechanics” for 300 supply and they will reload X number of AC every Y minutes.

The spammability of ACs puts them in-line with thieves, thus creating problems.

I like this. I would also think it could replace siege timer. There would definitely be a steep learning curve for pugs not to just fire ACs willy nilly, but I get kind of tired of catering to that end of spectrum when it means throwing away would could be an interesting tactical change. The option to reload in a tower or keep would also keep them out of the open filed fights more. Hmm. You are right, as it stands now you don’t have to choose between sieging a nearby objective and upgrades, you get the whole shebang which doesn’t require a lot of thought. So maybe over time this encourages upgraded keeps before sieging surrounding towers and that, I do like.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Give Arrow Carts limited ammo.. problem solved. You want 20 ACs? congratz you just blew all your supply when you have to rebuild them

That’s interesting. Would you figure all projectile-based siege should have this? Do you think there could be a mechanic to feed it more ammo, but it would cost you?

ParaldaWind.4523:

That’s a good point, and I think you’re right on a lot of things.

The siege buff, in my opinion, was intended to allow small groups to have a counter to larger groups. It makes sense, on paper, but I feel like it’s effectively just changed the rules of WvW. Now people don’t attack keeps for fights, and don’t try to siege with even numbers, they just kind of zergball things down because they have to. While it is great for 5 people to be able to defend against 20, those 20 just come back with 60 and steamroll through. It hurts only the 20-30 man groups, which, while large, are a lot more fun to run in and run against than the 60-80 man blobs we see so regularly now.

It’s true, instead of it being a hard counter it just buys you another defense tick pretty much. With the new golem meta ACs are little less effective on the initial push, at least. I also think instead of players thinking “siege is buffed, now I will be more strategic with my placement, less is now more!” it turned into “siege is buffed, let’kitten the siege cap in one keep alone!” I am starting to think this mentality also actually undermines the effectiveness of long term, solid, keep defense, and pushes the karma train/zergballing harder, since you’re pouring hundreds of supply into siege and basically none into restoration if you manage to push the enemy out. They’ll just return in full force, manmode the gate down that wasn’t repaired, and the neo-keep siege/defense cycle continues until attrition by AC happens. I am rambling and that’s moving off topic a little though. Sorry.

Oh, a post not insulting half the player base while making cohesive arguments. I knew I ♥‘ed Maguuma for good reasons. I feel like I can respond to this without being eaten alive. You’ve given me some things to think about, I think I am on the fence.

On one hand, the AC changes have been gr8 for small groups to defend against larger groups and even the field a little, for which I am grateful as I run in a 5 man 75% of the time, on the other hand, you’re right, I am also getting tired of sieging things for 2+ hours only for it all to end in an unbreakable choke, and now I also have to worry about getting my supply taken from trebs (different argument I guess).

I think it’s getting to the point where instead of feeling like a long siege was a good investment of my time (like it used to be when it ended in an explosive throwdown in the lord’s room) I know I’ll just regret it in the end since it will have taken a sizeable %age out of my night where I could’ve been having a great actual pvp fight w/o siege elsewhere. Meat grinders used to be rare and a rallying cry for an outpopped server, now they’re expected in lieu of even fights. You can’t realistically expect to take keeps with anything less than 15 people anymore, whereas I feel like I did this much more often in the past. I don’t dislike siege at all, I do think it has turned into a crutch though.

This matchup wasn’t too bad! I think when the thread is quiet it means more than the average would agree, I hope. I had a well rounded experience this week. I really like when there’s enough diversity in a match that I don’t feel like my only option is my guardian to save my kitten from relentless onslaught and can lighten up and use my other classes too. I even ran my engi for longer than 10 minutes. Unheard of.

Draygo.9473:

Reminds me of my office in the middle of summer, 90+ degrees with the AC working.

Just become best friends with the watercooler, unless its melting.

That is also broken atm. I live in squalor clearly. Good news is we’re down to 79F, so I’m only dying slower now.

Evalana.5480:

You will be missed…. </3

Someone! Quickkkk give Shaka an arrowcart!

Wrong AC acronym?? DARNIT!!! Nnnnnoooooooooo

Ooooooooooo.

You guys the AC broke at my job and it’s 88F in here. Plz tell my guildmates they were acceptable, I’m probably going to die irl.

Absolutely outrageous fighting at SE tower, Hills, and Bay on KBL tonight. Glorious. Don’t know if I can see this final Bay fight to the end. Getting sleepy. =_=

:D ♥

Aeros.2046:

And we took the collapse in resistance as the que to stay up. Our main commander did not log until 4 AM. See my point :P

Ahaha man we were tired! Had 25 TE from SBI on the West side and you guys goin at us on the East side for hours. It was a lot of fun, and we all had excellent fights. We’ll do what we can this week to keep you entertained, but it’s not always so easy!

Can’t say for EB, but last night when BP flipped KBL Garri and Bay you hit them exactly when the main force started to log. Like, main CMD was saying, ok guys, after blah, I gotta go, and BAM- 7 golems and 30+ at Garrison, BP on the lord before the first defense timer ticked. I took that loss as my cue to also go to bed, personally.

Having run both types of builds on an eng and a necro, high power is better in zerging and condis are better in smaller play in my opinion. Condi won’t win you alone in small groups, I agree with above that they are an accessory to power. Also in my opinion CC is more of an accessory to power in zerg fights over condis. I feel like condis are just kind of there so I can tag things when there’s 50 red tags on my screen.

Evalana.5480:

Your last picture is my TS avatar…. I LOVE IT!! What masterpiece do you have in store for u this week? ♥

I’m glad you liked it! ♥ I’ll have to wait for this week’s inspiration! I have jury duty on Thursday so I’ll probably come up with something then. :P

I’m losing because, um, Evakitten tripped me and I fell in the mud and her monkeys ran me over. Cheatz!

That NW tower fight on HoD BL was bananas. Tons of fun. Thanks HoD!

lunyboy.8672:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

lunyboy.8672:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

lunyboy.8672:

Bllade.1029:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Xom.9264:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Nyx Xox.3540:

Kinda sad [VLK] and [Mend] turned us down for a GvG. [BS] LF to GvGing with you guys!! Anyone else wanna GvG contact me in game. [CNB] is willing to GvG with anyone, as we see it as a chance to learn and practice our organizational open field combat (: Please be registered for the GvG website http://gw2gvg.com/ (:

[VLK] You should really give us a shot, we are not guardian heavy, especially with our new comp.

I was told to contact [Rawr] and [PHZE] if you guys are interested shoot me a mail (: Thankies!!

<3 Nyx

We aren’t looking for the kind of fights you guys are and I can guarantee you BS won’t GvG you either.

Oh boy, how I miss the days of casual gvg matches. 15 is a bit of a chore its most the guild we will see what happens,

It is casual for us. :P What I meant by “the kind of fights” is the whole 15+ thing, and also why I said your guild probably wouldn’t. Neither VLK nor BS are the kind of guild that fields that kind of number on a regular basis nor works consistently with those numbers.

I’m not interested in playing Guardian Wars personally.

I’m not really into Hammer Warrior Wars either, that is getting old.

And down with thief gank duos and mesmers while we’re at it. Who do these classes think they are, existing and all that? Engineers only in GW2 plz.

Can’t really hear you, all I hear is “Blah Blah Blah Blah I play an OP profession from a zerg server Blah Blah Blah Blah I’m so much better than you!”

I eat most thieves for breakfast, but Engineers have VERY little access to stability, making the hammer warriors that much more annoying, especially with the ridiculous damage numbers. I am also not the first person to acknowledge this stupid level of CC.

I don’t usually respond to trolling like yours, but I would assume I’ve hit a nerve, otherwise you wouldn’t have even bothered to comment. If you would like to bring your OP guard to a little 1v1 fight, I would be happy to show you that I don’t need a map full of engie’s to win. You can even bring your hammer, I think that would be hilarious.

Holy moly a few of you ET and HoD guys are so touchy. It was a joke dude! I am of the opinion that I don’t care what/how you play, and as this is a forum I expressed that opinion in joke form. You are more than welcome to duel my group support build guardian, I am sure you will cherish and squeeze the bag you will receive.

ETA I think your sig implies you play an eng! I too have an eng. See? We can still be friends!

I will love it and hold it and squeeze it and it will be ALL MINE!

P.S. I wasn’t complaining about hammer warriors on your server specifically, just in general and s/tPvP as well. The lack of stability is QUITE glaring in my profession when all the hammers come out.

As well as my eng I also run a necro, so I feel this pain every day as well! I hate the RNG stab on the eng, makes me sad inside. :*(

Bllade.1029:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

lunyboy.8672:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

lunyboy.8672:

Bllade.1029:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Xom.9264:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Nyx Xox.3540:

Kinda sad [VLK] and [Mend] turned us down for a GvG. [BS] LF to GvGing with you guys!! Anyone else wanna GvG contact me in game. [CNB] is willing to GvG with anyone, as we see it as a chance to learn and practice our organizational open field combat (: Please be registered for the GvG website http://gw2gvg.com/ (:

[VLK] You should really give us a shot, we are not guardian heavy, especially with our new comp.

I was told to contact [Rawr] and [PHZE] if you guys are interested shoot me a mail (: Thankies!!

<3 Nyx

We aren’t looking for the kind of fights you guys are and I can guarantee you BS won’t GvG you either.

Oh boy, how I miss the days of casual gvg matches. 15 is a bit of a chore its most the guild we will see what happens,

It is casual for us. :P What I meant by “the kind of fights” is the whole 15+ thing, and also why I said your guild probably wouldn’t. Neither VLK nor BS are the kind of guild that fields that kind of number on a regular basis nor works consistently with those numbers.

I’m not interested in playing Guardian Wars personally.

I’m not really into Hammer Warrior Wars either, that is getting old.

And down with thief gank duos and mesmers while we’re at it. Who do these classes think they are, existing and all that? Engineers only in GW2 plz.

Can’t really hear you, all I hear is “Blah Blah Blah Blah I play an OP profession from a zerg server Blah Blah Blah Blah I’m so much better than you!”

I eat most thieves for breakfast, but Engineers have VERY little access to stability, making the hammer warriors that much more annoying, especially with the ridiculous damage numbers. I am also not the first person to acknowledge this stupid level of CC.

I don’t usually respond to trolling like yours, but I would assume I’ve hit a nerve, otherwise you wouldn’t have even bothered to comment. If you would like to bring your OP guard to a little 1v1 fight, I would be happy to show you that I don’t need a map full of engie’s to win. You can even bring your hammer, I think that would be hilarious.

Holy moly a few of you ET and HoD guys are so touchy. It was a joke dude! I am of the opinion that I don’t care what/how you play, and as this is a forum I expressed that opinion in joke form. You are more than welcome to duel my group support build guardian, I am sure you will cherish and squeeze the bag you will receive.

People get kitteny when they lose. Happens everywhere. I’ve never seen HoD complain when they’re winning.

Oh no I didn’t want to imply that at all either. I mean like, I keep having to explain myself in this thread, people think I’m being malicious for no reason. I’m your friend ET! From T8! And I love everyone so HoD I love you too even though I know nothing about you!

lunyboy.8672:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

lunyboy.8672:

Bllade.1029:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Xom.9264:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Nyx Xox.3540:

Kinda sad [VLK] and [Mend] turned us down for a GvG. [BS] LF to GvGing with you guys!! Anyone else wanna GvG contact me in game. [CNB] is willing to GvG with anyone, as we see it as a chance to learn and practice our organizational open field combat (: Please be registered for the GvG website http://gw2gvg.com/ (:

[VLK] You should really give us a shot, we are not guardian heavy, especially with our new comp.

I was told to contact [Rawr] and [PHZE] if you guys are interested shoot me a mail (: Thankies!!

<3 Nyx

We aren’t looking for the kind of fights you guys are and I can guarantee you BS won’t GvG you either.

Oh boy, how I miss the days of casual gvg matches. 15 is a bit of a chore its most the guild we will see what happens,

It is casual for us. :P What I meant by “the kind of fights” is the whole 15+ thing, and also why I said your guild probably wouldn’t. Neither VLK nor BS are the kind of guild that fields that kind of number on a regular basis nor works consistently with those numbers.

I’m not interested in playing Guardian Wars personally.

I’m not really into Hammer Warrior Wars either, that is getting old.

And down with thief gank duos and mesmers while we’re at it. Who do these classes think they are, existing and all that? Engineers only in GW2 plz.

Can’t really hear you, all I hear is “Blah Blah Blah Blah I play an OP profession from a zerg server Blah Blah Blah Blah I’m so much better than you!”

I eat most thieves for breakfast, but Engineers have VERY little access to stability, making the hammer warriors that much more annoying, especially with the ridiculous damage numbers. I am also not the first person to acknowledge this stupid level of CC.

I don’t usually respond to trolling like yours, but I would assume I’ve hit a nerve, otherwise you wouldn’t have even bothered to comment. If you would like to bring your OP guard to a little 1v1 fight, I would be happy to show you that I don’t need a map full of engie’s to win. You can even bring your hammer, I think that would be hilarious.

Holy moly a few of you ET and HoD guys are so touchy. It was a joke dude! I am of the opinion that I don’t care what/how you play, and as this is a forum I expressed that opinion in joke form. You are more than welcome to duel my group support build guardian, I am sure you will cherish and squeeze the bag you will receive.

ETA I think your sig implies you play an eng! I too have an eng. See? We can still be friends!

Azgarn.2145:

To the [Ai] warrior with the pink mustache, I hear you only fight people you know you can beat. Sorry to disappoint you good fight tho.

PROOF. we g-kicked him.

Just keep reporting them, we will too if we see it. Email the screens to exploits@arena.net, there’s nothing the forum mods can do about it, as has been repeated ad nauseam over the last year.

mojohikerdude.3895:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

4vsX in HoD Garrison! Thanks for the run.

let me get this right
1. your are in hods garrison…check
2. your group of 4 is defending…check
3.you die…check
4. but how did one of your group get into hods spawn point? hmmmm?
5. did you just out your spy? and why do you feel you need a spy ur server is ranked 14 against a 21 and 23. I just cant understand. someone once said its serious business defeating the last place teams but come on bragging about it now?

LOL Mooncow was offline and that’s where his dot ended up. Don’t be so paranoid. It was our Garrison in HoD BL that we were defending. So hostile!

4vsX in HoD Garrison! Thanks for the run.

I don’t think we are generalizing situations enough in this thread, we should do more of it.

lunyboy.8672:

Bllade.1029:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Xom.9264:

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Nyx Xox.3540:

Kinda sad [VLK] and [Mend] turned us down for a GvG. [BS] LF to GvGing with you guys!! Anyone else wanna GvG contact me in game. [CNB] is willing to GvG with anyone, as we see it as a chance to learn and practice our organizational open field combat (: Please be registered for the GvG website http://gw2gvg.com/ (:

[VLK] You should really give us a shot, we are not guardian heavy, especially with our new comp.

I was told to contact [Rawr] and [PHZE] if you guys are interested shoot me a mail (: Thankies!!

<3 Nyx

We aren’t looking for the kind of fights you guys are and I can guarantee you BS won’t GvG you either.

Oh boy, how I miss the days of casual gvg matches. 15 is a bit of a chore its most the guild we will see what happens,

It is casual for us. :P What I meant by “the kind of fights” is the whole 15+ thing, and also why I said your guild probably wouldn’t. Neither VLK nor BS are the kind of guild that fields that kind of number on a regular basis nor works consistently with those numbers.

I’m not interested in playing Guardian Wars personally.

I’m not really into Hammer Warrior Wars either, that is getting old.

And down with thief gank duos and mesmers while we’re at it. Who do these classes think they are, existing and all that? Engineers only in GW2 plz.

Got some good fights at Speldan and Pangloss for awhile in EB. Ran into a lot of different guilds so I don’t remember anyone. :i I do know VLK got us with 8 at our last hoorah in Pangloss. We were the necro/ele duo who jumped a lot.

Jeknar.6184:

I’ve been picking fight with stragglers all over the 4 maps, and I can say that Kaineng remind me of SF… All they know to do is zerg you, because all Kaineng straglers I took on, died miserably to my Engineer (which i’m still improving), or came rolling with a large group on me.

All my 2 man party have run into with ET today is 8 mans hungry to eat us. Or 2-3 ET that turns into more halfway through the fight. Goes both ways!

Produs.6401:

Sorry Kaineng, I guess we’re better at pvdooring than you.

At least you’re humble about it.

saiyr.3071:

fight me bro

breau*

Lightsbane.9012:

nice GOM hills cap bro.

eta: nevermind i realized it was you replying to me. keeping my fancy “brough” tho. brough.

Oooo gurl I know I did not just see criticism of KN golem rushes from YB or GoM in this thread here. If I got your gold back from each one of your golems we caught this week, I could get another commander tag. Kitten it, you got me to kitten talk, and now I feel dirty and juvenile.

And wow matchup gods please deliver me from the gif spam threads tonight pl0x.

Sororita.3465:

drats! i should have known! the media always lies!

Water is racist then right?

It could be killing your multi-racial children.

Sororita.3465:

I NEED TO KNOW, ITS THE TOP OF THE HOUR.

I’m a news anchor, not a scientist.

This just in: opponents in a 3-way competitive battle believe all of their enemies are bad. Is it just a matter of perspective and bias? More at 11. Also, is water really wet? Answer at the top of the hour.

Evalana.5480:

Can you draw a picture of ummm a donkey with a commander tag over it’s head with 60 friendly monkeys carrying glass chasing him, and 5 of them cheering because they totally pwned the 1 kittie, and the 2 puppies laying on the ground helpless?

Evalana.5480:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

dunnberry.2964:

Kaineng is giving me that same kitteny and egotistical vibe they gave when they started their rise outa tier 8

Hrm, that’s how my interactions with BP have been this weekend. I would hope, though, that we both understand that it is not a universal assessment.

Shaka! Can you draw me a picture? ♥

Oh gosh, what would you like??? I’ll be gone this week starting tomorrow so I’ll only be able to do 1.

dunnberry.2964:

Kaineng is giving me that same kitteny and egotistical vibe they gave when they started their rise outa tier 8

Hrm, that’s how my interactions with BP have been this weekend. I would hope, though, that we both understand that it is not a universal assessment.

It took us a while to get out PPT stabilized last night. Unfortunately, it cost us second place and probably the match. :*( Too bad.

the most burning question i have this week is “why does my character make such an awful rez face?”

It is surprising to me that DH drops off more due to PvE updates than SBI. I had figured SBI had the greater PvE population somehow.

TogoChubb.3984:

How’s my grade for this post?

Way too long, word limit exceeded. -10% for an A-.

Grade: B- for trying to create your own drama. That high of a grade only because people will take the bait.