Guild Wars 2

Tarkan.5609:

Updated the one fix in this patch… much bug fix, such wow

I know right? Oh well… I’m still excited for the elite spec.

Templar.3418:

DragonHunter and Daredevil. kittening lol.

I swear this game is made for children.

Like 12 under.

Potential for kittenery everywhere but nope. Have friendship, kittens and rainbows.

Edit: That kitten filter is a good example. Replaces words with Kitten.

Some things just can’t be described with clean words.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Seabreeze.8437:

Daendur.2357:

Hope it will not be condition oriented…

Me too. Staff doesn’t really seem like a condition weapon to me. We’ll find out soon enough though!

Smacked with a staff in the;
head -> daze
crotch -> stun
liver -> knockdown
kidney -> chill
leg -> cripple
hip -> immobilize
nose/mouth -> bleeding
temple – > blindness
chest -> weakness

Good point. A few of those are CC, and I wasn’t really considering those as conditions, silly me. I guess I’m mostly saying that I want it to be a reliable source of AoE damage as well.

symke.3105:

Seabreeze.8437:

symke.3105:

Thief with a staff!
What’s next? Fluffy feathers in each hand to tickle our enemy to death?

Ya wanna try getting cracked over the head with a bo staff and tell me how much that tickles?

It’s not about the damage a staff can do, it’s about the notion of a Thief with a staff. Why not give him an elephant companion. That should fit the role of a thief just as good as a staff.

I dunno, I think the concept of a roving vagabond with a staff fits quite well in my opinion, and I like it. More so than an… uh, elephant companion.

^ omg I read through the whole list and totally missed it. My bad. Thanks for pointing that out!

Doggie.3184:

Seabreeze.8437:

Daendur.2357:

Hope it will not be condition oriented…

Me too. Staff doesn’t really seem like a condition weapon to me. We’ll find out soon enough though!

It could cause internal bleeding when you shove it up someone’s…

(shudders)

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Looking at the Warrior adrenaline change, it is only fair that our Initiative should have a based max of 15 initiatives and remove/replace Preparedness from our trait.

Very much agree. Trickery should be an optional spec line, but it feels mandatory for many players. I know I use it on both of my thieves.

Daendur.2357:

Hope it will not be condition oriented…

Me too. Staff doesn’t really seem like a condition weapon to me. We’ll find out soon enough though!

Kocoff.7582:

100% agree. If this is how we dodge and jump while specced i will be happy. I don’t like the way the staff is wielded however.

Thanks! As far as the stance goes, I personally like it a lot and believe that it fits the theme very well, but mostly I’m hoping they don’t just recycle the 2-handed hammer stance like they did with revenant. That doesn’t even really look like an appropriate staff stance to begin with, and it’d look all the more weird on thieves.

We’ll find out soon enough, but if the animations are lacking, I’ll let Anet know about it (in addition to class mechanics as well, of course).

symke.3105:

Thief with a staff!
What’s next? Fluffy feathers in each hand to tickle our enemy to death?

Ya wanna try getting cracked over the head with a bo staff and tell me how much that tickles?

With the elite spec teaser showing off the staff as our new weapon, I’m definitely hoping that resources from the Monkey King tonic will be incorporated into the thief’s animations. I especially love the combat stance, the running animation, and the jumping animations.

Of course the traits and mechanics are by far the most important concerns, but I’m also hoping for a visually exciting elite spec. Using the two-handed hammer stance for revenants is… okay, since they are a heavy armor profession, but given the agility and nimbleness of thieves, I think the Monkey King animations would provide a very aesthetically pleasing experience. I’m aware that it’s not as simple as “copy/paste” the animations onto the playable professions, but I believe the Monkey King tonic can give the devs a reliable reference to make the thief elite spec look and feel truly unique.

It’s probably silly to post this the week of the reveal, but what the heck, I just wanna put my thoughts out there. Let’s see some crazy bo staff skills!

Can we count this as a bug? I’d really like this fixed.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Thief-Cluster-Bomb-Detonate-Glitch/first#post5399055

Tabootrinket.2631:

Seabreeze.8437:

Here’s hoping they wield it like the Monkey King!

Since they already have the monkey king model with that stance in 3D animated and all, it should be easy to import it to actual characters.

That’s what I’m thinking. I know the rigging is probably a bit different between the Monkey King and the other playable races, but the framework is still there, and to reiterate, I think it’d look much better than simply recycling the hammer stance.

Sorean.5379:

Seabreeze.8437:

Here’s hoping they wield it like the Monkey King!

If only…if only…

Yeah, I hope so. While recycling the two-handed hammer stance for staff looks okay on a heavy armor profession like the revenant, I think it’d look really lame on a nimble profession like the thief. We’ll see soon enough, though I think the Monkey King stance would be perfect!

penelopehannibal.8947:

…for a week as I’m on holiday. A country holiday in Devon where there will be no Wi-Fi.

And you choose this week to reveal thief staff!

Still, I love you guys for it being staff thank you!

You made my day. Thanks!

Here’s hoping they wield it like the Monkey King!

Coldin.2840:

Well, since the elite spec is Staff, looks like Ricochet won’t be coming back even as the Elite.

Well to be optimistic, there are going to be more elite specs in the future. I for one am excited beyond reason about the idea of a melee staff thief, but I still want something for my little gunslinging asura thief. That said, there very well could be a Gunslinger elite spec later on that focuses on firearms for the profession.

Gabriell.4856:

ronpierce.2760:

Here we go, staff thief this week. Ready yourself for better melee-staying power! :P

They said “distraction.”

Let’s speculate. Shadow clones?

That’s exactly what I’m thinking. Shadow clone jutsu, anyone?

Is this real?? Is it finally happening???

Umbersun.6025:

Gun Flame (rifle F1) is obviously a Guilty Gear reference (Sol’s special attack).

“GURL FREN!”

Ghotistyx.6942:

Why would they ever want to comment with attitudes like this?

You’ve got a point, which is why I’d like to keep this thread more about throwing ideas around rather than bad-mouthing Anet. I’m as frustrated as anyone about this, but calling the devs out would only get this thread locked and all our discussions would be in vain.

They may not be responding, but I’m confident they are reading these, so let’s be as constructive as we can. So anyways, I still believe that adding the functionality that the Dragonhunter’s longbow auto-attack has would be the best way to allow for AoE mob damage with pistols (as in, bullets will bounce to enemies behind your target). Piercing is okay too, but after playing with the DH during the beta weekend, I found the bouncing mechanic to be really fluid and fun! Plus, seeing as how the berserker is another elite spec that’ll have crazy mob damage (did you guys see that gun flame?! Sol Badguy would be proud to let the berserkers use his own move like that), it kinda makes the thief’s lack of ricochet more glaring.

In my opinion, bouncing bullets just seem to fit the theme of a trick-shooting thief better than simply piercing bullets.

Given that the berserker has been officially revealed as the warrior’s elite spec, I think now more than ever we need hairstyles more suited for such a profession. I’m not so sure that the influx of pretty boy, smooth and glossy hairstyles is very fitting for a berserker. To each their own I suppose, but there’s definitely a shortage of barbarian themed hairstyles (which may be attributed to the norn taking them all).

Ugly Charr Auto

AllNightPlayer.1286:

For those, who will never forget and never forgive:

The Good ==> The Ugly

Good Asura ==> Ugly Asura
Good Charr ==> Ugly Charr
Good Norn ==> Ugly Norn
Good Males ==> Ugly Males
Good Females ==> Ugly Females

Wow, the difference is so glaring. I can’t believe this change was made. The original AA looks so much more animated and fierce. This new one looks like the player is either completely disinterested in the fight, swinging underwater, or both. Especially the asura. How can Anet muck up the AA for the race that’s supposed to be the most animated? It’s so boring I can’t stand it!

Aesthetically this is such a step backwards. We have such awesome, dynamic-looking attack animations across all the other weapons, and then to see this is just… ew. Really? Can’t the devs fix the technical issue and keep the original animation? I can’t get over how bland and lifeless the new auto-attack is.

Please bring back these beautiful animations for our axe AA, Anet!

This was the first thing I noticed when I saw “Primal Rage” and “Bloody Roar,” and it’s beyond awesome, especially because Primal Rage, Bloody Roar, and Guilty Gear are among my favorite fighting games ever!

With all these fighting game references though, I’m surprised there aren’t any Mortal Kombat ones, like “Finish Him” or “Flawless Victory.”

Leviathan.6327:

And while we’re on the topic of sounds, I wish Anet would change the sound effect of guardian’s third sword skill. Does anyone else notice that they just kinda randomly threw in the chest-opening sound effect? Don’t know about you guys, but that always sounded out of place to me. They couldn’t just record a brand new sound effect?

I don’t play guardian all that much, but I did notice this, and it does sound odd. It’s awesome that they’re thinking about revamping some of the longbow’s sounds, yet I wonder if they’d alter anything else such as this…

Either way, it’s great news for Dragonhunters!

Where’s Waldo: Hero Point Edition

I love this game so much, but I’ll admit that the Scooby gang (a.k.a. Destiny’s Edge 2.0) is pretty nauseating. Especially Marjory and Kasmeer. I don’t have a problem at all with their relationship, but I do get tired of them reminding me every 5 seconds, even when they’re not around.

Kid NPC’s playing pretend in Lion’s Arch: “Okay, but if you’re Marjory, you gotta let me kiss you! Tee hee!”

Also, the script is borderline unbearable with some of the lines they give these guys.

Kasmeer: “Oh honey-pumpkin cuddly-bear, you scared the rainbow marshmallow fluff out of me!”

Really?… REALLY?! Okay, I exaggerated that a little, but they can get pretty close to that level of absurdity. It’s also annoying that they call you “Boss” when you feel like a footnote in the story. The focus of the story is obviously on them while you are more of the sidekick, unfortunately.

Should we kill them off? Probably not. Should the focus shift more towards you as a hero while they work out their own personal problems? Definitely yes in my opinion.

Oh yeah, it was your thread, Frostfang, I remember posting in it even!

Man, it sucks that we don’t have sub-forums dedicated to all the playable races anymore. I suggested charr horns that looked more like deer/elk antlers or even that of a gazelle. And I really do think we need an option to color charr horns too. I feel like that should’ve been a feature to begin with.

Unfortunately, I’m not expecting anything like this when the expansion hits, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to be pleasantly mistaken.

fluffdragon.1523:

• Daredevil: as an adjective, “recklessly bold or adventurous.” This is the entire opposite of Thief and the style it presents. I mean, recklessness and stealth don’t really work together.

Who says the elite spec will be reliant on stealth? To me, Dare Devil implies that it’s going to be more about agility, evades, and risky payoffs than the tired stealth tactics. I’m really quite intrigued at what we might be getting.

Let’s see what the elite spec brings first, okay? We don’t even know with absolute certainty that it is going to be Dare Devil, despite its likeliness.

Admittedly, I would’ve preferred Vagabond, but it’s not like I’m gonna lose sleep over this.

glehmann.9586:

People are still going off on that whole “high-concept” comment? It’s especially ironic because what you are asking for is actually for all elite specs to be high-concept. Simple, one-word profession names that are easy to understand are pretty much exactly what high-concept means.

When they said Dragonhunter was high concept, they weren’t trying to defend it against accusations that it was kind of a stupid name by claiming that the community just didn’t understand it, they were effectively agreeing that it was a very simple name without much nuance or subtlety and pointing out that some profession elite specs were named that way while others had more nuance like a Reaper (which will vary significantly based on your setting’s lore surrounding death).

QFT. I feel like this “high-concept” backlash can be attributed to some people simply misinterpreting what Anet means by that.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Doesn’t mean that if some hair styles are not that popular, they should get rid of them. It’s actually more interesting to see some ugly characters once in a while than the same beauty pageants 24/7.

Unless I missed something, I don’t think anyone suggested they remove any of the hairstyles already in the game. I agree on your beauty pageant comment, though, which emphasizes the point that there are a bit too many “pretty boy” hairstyles compared to more rugged styles.

Aethgar.1784:

seriously, charr and asura are massively hogging the dreads.

This is true.

Stuff like this seems like an obvious feature of an expansion pack. I’m excited for HoT, but I’ll admit I will be a bit disappointed if there are no new racial features like charr horns, asura ears, etc.

There were lots of good ideas in the racial sub-forums for charr horns and stuff. I really hope this expansion delivers.

Zero Day.2594:

Now when people are going to start calling them Double-D……..

Can we please see what the elite profession is going to play like before we start complaining about the name?

I think Dare Devil is fine, just like I think people are way overreacting to the Dragonhunter name… because it’s just that: a name. Besides, it’s not like they named it “The Longbow Trapper.”

What’s making it sound more annoying is the fact that people keep relating it to the Marvel hero, Daredevil, as if Marvel Studios made up that term.

In addition to the other dreadlocks that are already here, I’d like to see some where the hair is tied up like this. Also, it’d be cool if they had some of the locks of hair sun-bleached to give it some nice looking highlights.

Stitch.1794:

It looks to me like it’s just a display bug, and the clusters are actually landing where they are supposed to, despite where they appear to go.

Yeah, I noticed this too, but that doesn’t make it any less annoying to look at.

The Wizland.8435:

Well hopefully they don’t kitten it up like they did with corruptions. It’s a neat concept but the reward needs to be big enough to make up for harming yourself.

My thoughts exactly.

Talk about calling it. I’ve been theorizing with my buddies for weeks that the Berserker elite would have skills similar to necromancer corruptions in that, in exchange for health, you’d give yourself a boost in strength. I will get myself a cookie now.

Okay, that’s enough patting myself on the back. Anyways… I’m curious as to how sacrificial skills are going to work. I was thinking of something more along the lines of a dagger off-hand where you carve into yourself to send you into a berserk state. But instead we’re getting torch. So you… set yourself on fire? That’s… pretty hardcore, lol.

So far, I think it’ll be cool, and I’m anxious to see what the torch will bring to the profession.

Gabriell.4856:

He’s already in the game!!!

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Endless_Monkey_King_Tonic

Make it happen!

If we get a flashy Monkey King fighting style, I hope we get to have that cool stance of his as well. Icing on the cake!

Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited for any elite spec reveal… but the wait for thieves is absolutely torturous!

penelopehannibal.8947:

Saving the best for last.

My friend, I really hope you’re right.

So this is a recent bug then? If that’s the case, then I hope it gets fixed eventually.

I lol’d, but I’m still hyped for melee staff. Besides, what makes you think rifle would be mind-blowingly awesome by comparison? Not trying to start anything, though… there’s been enough annoyingly long round-about arguments around here.

@Gabriell

Yeah man! That’s more along the lines of what I’m hoping for. Just like you said, acrobatic, deadly, tricky, and even some deception. Honestly, a Monkey King style would be a great source of reference.

I’ve mained P/P thief since thief since release, but only recently been trying shortbow for one of my alt thieves. I don’t know if this is something recent, or if it’s been like this for a while and I just haven’t noticed it, but there’s a weird bug on the thief’s Cluster Bomb skill, specifically when you use Detonate Cluster.

I posted 3 screen caps for reference.

When you detonate Cluster Bomb in midair, the extra bombs are supposed to spread from where the arrow was in mid-flight. Instead, the three smaller bombs launch out from your body. All three screen caps are of me using Detonate Cluster to show that the bombs are clearly spawning from my body instead of the first arrow.

Is this something that should be addressed?… because I’m certain it’s not supposed to work that way.

Tuomir.1830:

Animation for Monkey King =/= animation for playable races. I would wager the monkey king has a special animation rig, incompatible with the rigs used by playable races. Meaning, the animation couldn’t be just copy pasted on player characters.

Yeah, I guess you’ve got a point. I’m certain that the playable races have a much more complicated rig than a model used as a tonic. Still, I’d love to see this animation adapted for the thief if we indeed get a melee staff. I personally think it’d fit so well given the nature of thieves.

Totally off-topic, but this thread title was nostalgic to me because it was the name of a website for Sims 1 skins that I used to frequent.

Back on topic!

makagoto.1204:

It’s summer, give us shorts and bikini skins, costumes whatsoever or like what we had in gw1 scar and tattoo skins.

This would be nice. Some more beachy, surfer gear would be really nice to have. If they are implemented as outfits, then they could be applied to any armor weight class, so there’s an advantage to making them outfits.

Sagat.3285:

We are not warriors we’ll accept a melee or acrobatic rifle-Team Rifle-

If you don’t believe it’s possible check out the Gunslinger from C9.

Again, if we got a Gunslinger elite spec that not only gave us rifle, but also reworks to dual pistols to make them fun and effective, then I would absolutely love it. I still run P/P on my main, but it’s just not quite as fun as it used to be.

Frostfang.5109:

I actually LIKE the sound from that bow! I’d say keep it as is!

Huh? Okay, it sounds good for a ranger and a warrior, but the dragonhunter is a mage-type archer, so the recycled “pshew pshew” noise just sounds out of place. If his arrows are magic-based, shouldn’t they sound more… I dunno, magical? (that sounds really cheesy, but you know what I mean)

Someone posted somewhere that Anet stated the tempest definitely will get new warhorn sounds later on, so getting the same aesthetic tweaking for the dragonhunter’s longbow is not totally inconceivable.