Guild Wars 2

Stigmatizing bears only hurt the class. You cant have it all passive and on demand condition clear and a damage build. You have to pick your poison. Only 3 classes in the game have shouts. So if you chose to not use the rune set that give condition clear on shouts that’s your choice but don’t act like you didn’t have the option.

Considering that this does not include pet damage its fine. I mean really what do other class range attacks do.

Stealth is cheap its gimmicky. We are better than that.

Ranger is not the same as archer. It make more sense to use a melee when stacking as it has more dps. With certain boss fighting it at range will trigger certain mechanisms.
For example Lt. Kholer in Ac will do his spin pull attack. The Queen Spider will use it’s aoe range attack.

While you stack you still can dodge in the stack as you are normally against a wall dodge into the wall. Dodging give you like a half second of immunity and also trigger on dodge effects like protection.

I really hate stack but it is what is expected when you do dungeon runs. So hold your ground and rally the downed. You normally are able to rally yourself even if the boss is on you. At the point where everyone is dead and your the last one left that when you begin to go your thing the way you want to.

If your the first to break rank you can cause the wipe. People will some times go down it is not the same as wiping.

Are you a bad player? Depends when you broke rank.

Range damage in general is lower than melee couple that with 30% of our damage coming from our pets. So with that said you wont see big numbers. You have to consider your pet damage and your attack speed.

If you want to use long bow then a power set up is best. With sb you can run either power or conditions but the best approach is rampages and go for a bleeder crit build while using k9’s or spider to cc your target so you can flank.

As a ranger you have to play defensively but aggressively at the same time. Does it get better yes it does.

As a Ranger you need atleast a 25 or 30 point trait. You wont get that until lvl 60. But more importantly you will learn to over come your weakness’s and exploit the strengths and weakness of other classes. Dps is not as important as learning the fore mentioned skill sets.

It a great skill. Yes people can get out but the ranger can reuse the vines by kiting foes back into it. Very easy to do with class that use leap skills like thieves.

Ranger pet need to scale off of our gear not stats. So if I am running ascended zerker gear the stat isn’t important. However my pet should be given a bonus in all of it’s normal stats as those it was wearing ascended gear.

Since mobs all have different stats I don’t see how this would be hard to add. Piece of gear would add .10 to .25% boost to the pets normal stats based on the rarity of the gear to equal whatever % we are losing out on now for being gear with ascended or exotic.

Similar to how mobs scale with people just calculate vs the rangers gear.

I don’t think pets need to move out of aoe on their own. If Whyme Ranger fixes were made. Zerker beast master would be unstoppable.

In that they would remain at max pet range and have the jugaur just stealth and kill without mercy.

At least thieves have to unstealth to attack. A stealth jaguar booster by its masters gear. While at the same time the Ranger would be well out of harms way and his prey is stuck fighting and unecapable invisible foe that auto moves out of any aoe that the player tries to use.

I think that would bit just a wee bit OP. Ranger have the ability to call their pets back. They should ’nt be an auto response greater that what a player is capable of.

In all cases the pet choice is specific to the Rangers build and play style. While you may argue that a zerker should run x pet over a bear. No pet is worth more than the rangers life. So if a Ranger runs a bear (bears tend to hold /intercept aggro) so he has to dodge less or can use protect me. Then so be it.

Ranger have an amazing ability to save a party because of down skill #3. If a player runs a bear simply so his pet will stay alive during the rally process. That alone is a valid reason to take it.

Lets be clear taking a bear doesn’t result in 1/3 less damage its maybe 1/4. Taking the highest damage pet doesn’t mean anything if you cant keep it alive. Taking a pet for a buff and putting it on passive the whole time is worst than taking a bear.

Bear bow Rangers have become the icon for bad rangers. Rangers who put Their pet on passive the whole are why the perception of the Ranger as whole is bad. Knowone pay attention to see if the pet is on passive. But when the group doesn’t have enough dps that ranger isn’t doing his part and probably wasn’t spec’ed for dps to start with or was running condition that already max out or just stack in duration like poison, burning and groups always have a lot of bleeding because of the warrior. So Yes the low dps is the rangers fault.

Spvp and WvW and PvE are different. PvE has more room for error in open world in dungeons not so much. Master each of these separately .

Ranger are unparalleled archers. How is archery measured. It is not by damage it is by accuracy and distance. Ranger have superior range couple with the fact we can use both types of bows.

The player with most damage isn’t the one who always wins the fight. Warrior can do alright damage with a bow they also have to use the class mechanic to get the job done. As a Ranger you have to use yours. Stability or a Warrior can make the fight difficult but you have stealth on your lb. Know when to disengage k9’s will do a kd early in a fight if he has stability then call your pet off until his stability is gone. After that the fight is yours.

I personally don’t know how any self respecting Ranger can fear a LB Warrior.

As far as zerker Rangers using a sword; stop looking for the big numbers. Rangers 1h sword aa is 3 attacks in about 1.5 seconds. Then you have to include rangers pet damage for all damage calculations. Co-efficiency numbers are only part of the damage formula you have to include weapon speed.

If he a got a blast finisher it would most likely accompany are range nerf (at least for the affected skill). That alone would prompt me to give a nay vote.

Pets are only a liability if you don’t know how them. Power ranger have the option of traiting signet allowing signet of stone to give them six second of invulnerability.

I would love for a thief to turn his back on me to kill my pet. You only do that to a BM Ranger. ithout your pet anyone could just strafe your arrows. While they can strafe pets most can’t do both.

As I too Played Ranger as my main in gw1 I can say Ranger in GW2 are nothing alike. Trying to play GW2 without a pet is like trying to play a GW1 Ranger without expertise yes you can do it. But why.

For power Ranger the thief fight pretty much go like described above. Thieves are very aggressive so the are easy to predict. Signet of stone help survive the initial burst. Thieves are very fragile. We all know it the stealth that keeps them alive and it what makes them so deadly. Hiting a thief while he’s stealth normally results in a dead theif or a fight reset.

Only 3 classed have shout Ranger, guardians and warriors. While in it self shout aren’t that big of a deal. They can give us additional condition removal aswell as access to more regen and swiftness.

Kits are an engineer Mechanic so I doubt we will get. I wouldn’t be in favor of losing shout for it. Out side of that and it being a kit. Call them aspect of the Beast master and have them work based on pet selection I think its a maybe.

On another note

A lot of you would like to remove pets but I don’t believe you have though it through.

Range damage is easy to strafe.
Pets are easy to strafe as well.

But since most can’t do both at the same time it isn’t a big issue. Be careful of what you wish for: removing pets would make Rangers weaker not stronger.

I don’t think any of the build calculator have the stat yet so most people haven’t begun to create a build for it. Most people don’t want to waste the resources to make exotic gear until they have an idea of what they will end up with (bank/bag space also being and issue). Ascended recipes are pricy at the moment.

Also with the next patch having a major impact on the way stats are calculated I think most people are just waiting because anything created now will be short live because of the incoming update (probably why the build sites haven’t added as well)

Yes the class has problem all classes do. Pet are not conditions you don’t apply them and your done. Ranger need to working in tandem with their pets. The fact that the ai is tide to pve tells me that its not as bad a some claim. If making pet ai strong would make pve difficult then that tell me pet ai would be to strong.

The pet isn’t suppose to be un-escapable and hit every time. I don’t believe that I’m doing the class a disserve. I believe those that want Ranger to be like warrior or mes are.

The sum of the ranger is so much more than than other classes could every be. I don’t know how much of Mesmer damage is made up by clones. What I do know it that I don’t want Rangers to send in their pet and them stealth and swoop away and have the pet do all the damage. This is pretty much what Mesmer’s do now. It’s cheap and I know when I lose to one I don’t feel as the player bested me but the mechanism.

When a Ranger is well played it shows; just as when Rangers play badly. With other classes when you play poorly you can cover it with borderline op mechanisms.

Before pets had health issues. A few Rangers did very well at keeping their pets alive. Then we received a health buff. It was super easy for almost all rangers (those that made the effort before the buff) to keep their pets alive.

This buff came at a price for the next patch came with a pet damage nerf. Those Rangers who never tried to keep their pets alive before the buff had written pets of as unless (except when built for executing sotw, open stike jaguar crit of 15k) and new rangers are the ones today still having trouble keeping their pets alive today.

My pets die more now than they did why back when because now I take it for granted that they will be ok.

Melee pets not hitting is an issue for some.
Pet not scaling is an issue for some.

In the life of the game for me Pets not scaling is a bigger issue. There is no work around or l2p issue here. I believe fixing both of these issue would be OP and put rangers in a position for some major nerfs.

Rangers who learned the ai are stronger rangers those that haven’t or don’t use pets are weaker for it. Is it easy? For some yes and others no. Making thing easy now doesn’t prepare one for challenges ahead. Most of the time to get something you give something.

The top played spvp, Tpvp class and WvW classes change with which class currently has the most OP mechanism. Those who have gone with the ebb and flow of the flavor of the month have a different take on how rangers fair. They have had to much power and think that is what should be normal.

Harping on an issue that Anet says they can’t currently fix or don’t think needs to be fix isn’t serving The Ranger core. So fining other way to help fix the underlining issue like dps, or support is more beneficial to the core.

When you have been giving an answer move on if you force their hand your not going to like the result.

I have a lvl 80 of every class and I am most happy with the Ranger class. Do when have issues sure but all the classes do. I am working on my third and fourth Legandary for my ranger. So I am invested in the class and I only want what’s best for the class (not easiest).

Sorry my post are always too loooooooooooooooong.

Ranger need work they are not broken. Having issue and broken are not the same. Many of you contend that Anet hate and never plays Rangers. Then you miss quote Dev’s ( or take it out of context). At the same time there are Rangers that are have great success with the very thing you claim is broken.

What I believe is broken is the description that says rangers are able to adapt because clearly some people can shake the idea that the class doesn’t work the way they think and are unable to adapt to what is there.

Some may say I’m delusional or in denial. Rangers don’t have one mechanic they abuse like other classes. We don’t have one get out of jail free card (stealth, kd, fear, regen, stun, immobilize and weapon movement skills) that we use to no end like some of the other classes. We have all of the and it’s possible a lot of them in one build.

While other classes are single minded (within a build) we run the gambit.

By no means are we Superman. We are not the first go to Hero. We are not warriors. We are more like Batman (second most popular). We have no OP powers. Sometimes we take a licking, yet we have everything we need to beat any foe. We do our homework. Like Batman we suffer from a bad image (batman is consider a vigilante).

With all things in gaming your mileage may vary. Rangers are broken like chopsticks are broken (the disposable ones you get from take.) Yes it’s easier to use a fork or spoon, but once you learn how to use it properly there are things that chopstick are better suited for. Those that try to use chopsticks (rangers) like a fork (warrior) or spoon (Guardian) will have some success but in the end feel that the others are better.

Don’t emulate Innovate.

A Ranger and his pet are a team a lot of rangers want to be the lone Ranger, but even he was part of a team. Moving so your can help you. While it’s possible to kite the pet or the rangers arrow. If they can do both at the same time you are doing something wrong. I have heard Rangers say they put their pets on passive. I Totally understand why these people think the class is underpowered. They willing give up 30% of their damage in every encounter. heaven forbid if they fight a high toughness target or one with protection.

There are problem with pets but I don’t believe its the ai.

BM build are still viable so the ai isn’t completely useless. Without my pet I could never be a thief as it is now I win 80% of my 1v1 with thieves.

Many people are looking for something or someone to blame when they don’t perform well. Every class has issues. The biggest issue I have with the Ranger class is the pet but it’s not the ai. Its the fact pets don’t class as the ranger gear is upgraded.
The other is while we can burst there is a very long cd in between.

What the Ranger class lacks is an over abused mechanism like stealth, Fear and terror. I am grateful that we don’t have one. Each fight with my ranger is different not the same every time it’s probably why lots of people enjoy playing the class even when they think the class is underpowered.

Ultimately it’s about having fun and yes there has been people who have left the class there will always be people who shy away from challenges and people who like things easy or simply like things different.

There are a lot of people who play Ranger if the class was as broken as some of you claim no one would play it.

Long Bow has stealth so if you want your pet to hold agro: Attack mob Hit hunters shot you go stealth. Your pet should hit the mob before the stealth end. Since your pet has hit the mob and is closer your pet should hold agro.

I am on Blackgate and I have seen at least 3 anet staff members on rangers.

They are still tweaking things rangers are one of the most difficult classes to balance. I wish like most of you they had something positive to say. Most of you know that thing get change alot before the final update.

I rather they not say anything then have it change later. The Ranger core is very unforgiving when this happens.

As Rangers dual signets on two handed weapons is a big thing; since a two handed weapon (LB, sb and/or gs) is included in most Ranger builds.

You have the right to cry about what you like. A fix to a beneficial bug is still a bug and should be corrected.

Melee has better damage, but that doesn’t mean Ranger bows are weak or useless. Some may argue that warrior bows are better I don’t agree. The build my be better but that’s another story. Warrior have utilites that can stun allowing them to land that very dodge able aoe.

For Bow main weapon rangers to shine Anet doesn’t need to lower melee damage. What the need to do is have more mobs that require Range damage. There are already a lot of mob that encourage melee by mean of various mechanisms. There needs to be more Mechanisms that encourage range damage (Hard hitting melee mobs isn’t the only way).

In this game dps is king so players/classes that choose to dish out less damage while providing less support and receiving less support are shunned (Rightly so).

With that said there also need to be mechanism that discourages stacking (not for all encounters just some). Like mobs that attacks bounce (Like mh axes): each time the attack bounces the damage is multiplied. It may not stop stacking but it may encourage players to run something other than zerker ( of course referring to PVE dungeon).

Stronger doesn’t mean more damage. Sword have great stability. The evades alone make it a stronger choice.

How is stealing and dual wield (thief) harder than the Rangers pet. To be a good ranger you need to not just learn to keep your pet alive you need to understand how the. ai works. K9’s don’t randomly do their kd’s. Learn how to move so your pet land more attacks.

People like to compare how good rangers in gw1 are but you cant really move and shoot while melee class can run and swing. That alone makes Rangers in Gw2 better.

While one may argue the merits of the Thumper ranger. A KD build is more than doable on a ranger in Gw2. Rangers don’t do gimmick build like the other classes.

When rangers run gimmick builds they do one thing. Like a Bleeder build or chill or regen. When other class do gimmick its. Stunlock crit or stealth blind or fear terror.

It takes more skill to play a Ranger that doesn’t mean it the player skill that is carrying the class. Its the lack of player skill that’s bring the class down.

Not learning the Ai for each pet type ( each pet reacts different they are not all the same) Not learning how to properly use your evades on your weapon (namely one handed sword).

I watched a ranked 49 ranger in spvp. I watched her because she was the faster ranger I had seen in my life. she didn’t die once in the 4 matches I watched her. She was running sword/dagger and Gs. All her damage was from her pets snow leopard and jaguar and she was kicking butt.

Personally I don’t like the play style (to much running away in spvp) but when people say that pets are useless I remember players like this who rely 100 percent on the pet and do more than very well. It tells my that its not that pets that are totally useless its the player blaming their short coming on the pet (they are not perfect but they are also not useless).

Using pets well is more than just using the 3 or 4 button on the pet control. If you think there nothing more ask yourself what is the diffence in ai behavior from bears and cats. If your answer is nothing you now know why you have problems with pets. You don’t understand the Ai.

You either didn’t select your target or you changed target without realizing it.

on another note
Sword has so much more potential if you don’t use auto targeting. Most good thieves do use it. They select each target. Better target selecting in WvW will help a lot with keeping your pet alive. Pick the target on the edges this will stop your pet fro dieing instantly because they ran in to the middle of the zerg.

I don’t see how you can compare a skill that does damage and cripple to a skill that just does damage. Not to mention all Ranger weapon factor in pet damage.

This just proves some people just don’t understand how things work.

Your pet should be pretty much on ground all the time. Even if you are using your pet for buffs only (which is a bad idea) it better to move in for the buff and then out again.

From time to time there maybe a mob you do not want your pet to attack because you need to keep the mob moving. Passive mode is there for those times. Ranged pet are also an option as they usually don’t attract agro and try to stay out of melee combat range.

I wished the stow button was on a macro . Pets don’t agro and pet wont take a buff from a player but having you pet stowed lets your pet start an engagement at you side.

That way you are more likely to get your pet’s first big attack off. It allows you to keep track of your pet easier.

Guard/Passive Button isn’t really something we should be using a lot in combat. its more of a pre-combat thing. I the actual fight calling your pet back to you is almost the same. Activating his f2 skill will put him in combat in either case most of the time.

There are a lot of us rangers out there that really don’t know how to use pet properly.
Some of you say pets are garbage but at the same time one of our strongest build was BM builds. This type of build has fallen out of favor due to pet damage nerfs not changes in AI.

You need to learn to make the AI work for you. Learn to work with what you have not what you wish you had. Not to say not to make suggestion or make a wish list.

Just saying the best of us make it work the others just complain.

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Rangers need to do more ranged damage since a vanilla ranger is supposed to be a non mage ranged dps class.

PVE wise, thieves, wars and rangers should be able to do about the same amount of damage, where thieves have stealth, wars armor, and rangers range.
Simple as that.

IDK about thieves but I play war alt and where wars do a sh*tload of damage with their greatswords and axe/mace, rangers are left far behind with bows. Therefore they are not viable RANGED dps class. And I’m not talking about fact, that many dungeon / fractal strategies demand stacking and therefore favor melee.

As long as a nobrainer vanilla bow ranger has not enough damage to compare to nobrainer greatsword wars, it is obsolete. Yeah you can somehow tweak it to make it a melee dps about as good as war is (not counting the armor) but I don’t think this is how it should work.

Ranger does not mean archer. One clue would be that rangers don’t even start with a bow. Ranger range damage is fine. In GW2 in general melee damage is superior to range. You can not compare range damage and melee damage.

What the Ranger needs is more group utility and reliable aoe condition damage that we don’t have to spec into.

Some suggested stealth which I think it terrible as ranger skill already are mostly focused on ranger or pet. Smoke and stealth is a thief thing and even with what they offer dps wise and stealth wise they are not that big in demand. So why venture down that road. We need something else.

Playing a bleeder build (trapper isn’t our only condition build) in spvp I would not be in favor of the decrease in angle for the bleed. Bleeding is one of the better conditions and is the one we have the most access to. Fighting a target 1v1 it is very hard to get hits from directly behind consistently.

Removing poison from this weapon would make it near useless.

As for the daze it is what makes it possible for me to kill thieves. One well timed daze as the thief tries to enter stealth and its all over.

The short bow work well as a power and condition weapon. This would make it a weaker power weapon and a condition weapon with more condition but in the end still weaker.

Shortbow Ranger don’t just auto attack. Each skill on the bow plays a vital role. They are use to keep the fight in out favor. Eliminate the regen or lower the healing. Evade that backstab. Cripple the foe so our pets can do its job. Daze to stop stealth or prevent a stomp on a teammate.

We need more group utility while a blind field does that we don’t need to step on thieves as they already provided that we need something else.

I don’t want easy. Stealth is cheesy as hell. The classes that people think are good are super easy mode. They all have mechanisms that are abused to no end. Stealth being one of them.

The Ranger is what a Ranger is meant to be (not an archer). If anything Rangers need movement skill but honestly have that with the 1h and the gs.

You don’t hold points when you stealth. You force your teammate to take more pressure when you stealth. There is no honor in stealthing.

People keep saying anet should name the ranger something Else. Two of the most Famous Ranger are more like anet Ranger than Any other game. Aargorn From Lord of the rings ans Dritzz Do’ urden from The Dark Elf Trilogy and Forgotten Realms campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. These are true Rangers. It is not Anet idea of a Ranger that is flawed its those that think Rangers are Archers. (aside from the fact that anyone using a bow is an Archer).

Rangers do need something to make them a bit more unique. Stealth is not unique and will only hurt the class more not help it. Stealth is a selfish skill Rangers do not need more stuff that only benefits them.

Pet buff will apply to player and party members first. If you are out of range that is as a whole other story.

You know when
your going to activate your skill. If you can get in range of a second or two I don’t know what to tell you.

The leap allow you to make jumps you wouldn’t be able to even with haste. Haste would be a down grade.

Bottom Line sword is working as intended its not a bug. If you want to play this class you will have to step your game up. Auto targeting is like training wheels to really excel you must take this off.

Most of the classes that use weapon skill to disengage should really have this turn off (auto targeting) or you run the risk of randomly attack some near by mob or player.

Every class should not play the same way. I believe the Ranger to be the most difficult class to play well and there is nothing wrong with that. Not every class can be the Guardian.

My niece plays a Mesmer so she can feel useful. She doesn’t really have to worry about mobs or players attacking her the game treat Mesmer clones as a player for targeting purposes (the only class in the game that treats minions as players) she has so many way to disengage.

Not everyone is a Brain dead warrior who think the best way to solver anything is to smash it, break it or kill it.

Many Ranger were created thinking its an archer and can stand at range and do at the work while the pet tank for him. We are more than just archers (any class using a bow can be called an archer). To use this class effectively you must master the Sword.

Each class has different difficulty levels. It comes to much damage you can put out. How much damage you can take and how well you disengage.

Rangers are in the middle making them harder to play. We can not only rely on stealths to disengage. We can not only rely on a lot of armor or extra health bar to keep us alive. We can not only rely on dealing enough damage to kill our foe before they kill us.

We in fact have access to all of these thing we just don’t just don’t abuse one of them like all the other classes.

You cant play a Ranger like the other classes. With the other class you learn on gimmick and your golden. Rangers must learn them all.

The sword as it is now is the bane of Mesmers it lets you stick to them like glue and with the cripple he will never be to far. Should you need to run away the sword will allow you to disengage.

The are so many passive aspect of this game that people complain about. Yet We have people complaining about the removing auto attack and auto targeting. We have the so many way to select targets. Nearest enemy, next enemy, previous enemy, Promote skill target. If your not using at least half of these then you need to step your game up.

If you rely on auto targeting then a Mesmer is more likely to eat you alive auto targeting treats clones like players.

There is so much lazy and passive playing some of you expect everything to be that way. I do use auto attack but I press the 1 key on my naga with every attack it helps me to keep timing.

As Rangers we have options we don’t rely on one mechanism to stay alive as such. We should be harder to predict and counter the sad part is most of us are very predictable and easy to kill. That is the player not the class. With another class you can do maybe one or two things better but you can not do everything a ranger can.

Learning this weapon is only a small part. It is a high dps weapon and it is a weapon that allows us to disengage and has high evade ability. This weapon brings so much to the table its a shame that all ranger have not harnessed the power it contains.

In an evade or dodge you have 3/4 or 1 second when you are invulnerable. You don’t actually have to get out of the red circle its the invulnerability that saves you.

Those of you who did Liadria know it not possible to always jump out of the red circles and its the invulnerability that saves you.

Those of you who complain about the AA are unaware of the full capability of the weapon your wielding. Sword /dagger grants the ranger 5 evades one this one weapon set. A dodge is a type of evade. Some of you are letting the wording blind you from the true. 1h sword gives you more ability to evade not less.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Evade

Some of you have been moving out of harms way before the attack lands. While it may prevent damage it is not a true evade. Some of you have played for a year and still don’t see the difference.

There is nothing wrong with the auto attack on the sword. The sword gives you two evades skills. Learn to use these skills in place of your normal dodge. This weapon provide a lot of dps and a lot of stability as well as control of your target (cripple). making it easy for your pet to land its attacks.

This is why so many rangers are so awful at being a Rangers. Understand that if you do not master this weapon you enter every melee fight at a disadvantage.

This weapon is not only great for dps but can be use to disengage from a fight completely.

Tips: Learn how to tell instantly which you can use which: Dodge or evade (normal dodge can be used in the middle of the chain.)

Learn to disengage with this weapon.

Learn to fight with the auto attack on ( Higher Dps)

Learn to fight with auto targeting off. This will help you disengage as well prevent you from flight off cliffs and ledges.

Learn to position yourself don’t have to evade as much by attacking from the side of behind.

These are things that veteran ranger do automatically. Some New are old ranger don’t do some of the things veteran rangers do without thinking. It is why you get answers like L2p and noob. Its as basic as breathing for some of us and we forget even breathing can be a chore for some. like a newborn sometimes you need to spank the bottoms of the younglings you clear the air way a get them breathing on their own.

There is a slight delay In using the sword skills as a primary evade some of you will have to improve your reaction times. The average (median) reaction time is 215 milliseconds. Nothing in Gw2 require that type of reaction time.

So if you find you are truly unable to use the sword you may have to improve your reaction time.
Test it here: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/index.php

What do Rangers do better than any other class? They use environmental weapons better. Icebow, fiery axe flaming great sword dps is great on a Ranger.

In dungeon what players want is easy not skill. Mesmer are a crap class the only thing the offer is timewarp and stealth. Thieves Blind and stealth. They are great for skipping content in a real fight spend a lot of time dead. As far as Group no wanting or wanting a certain class it just shows their lack of ablility. You never need a certain class for any dungeon run if you know how to do it right. Exploiting and glitch has become the norm of dungeon which is sad. Some People who claim to be fractal experts don’t even know how to do some runs without exploiting (like the Dregde Fractal)

Ranger who have problems killing thieves are probably Condi Ranger. While some of you swear by condition a lot of thieve clear condition on stealth and ranger condition have long recharges. Even as slow as the Long bow is it offers Rapid fire which is 10k damage and can track a stealth thief barrage is great of when he sf.

Not every build or weapon set can overcome every class. Axe main had is a good power weapon yes it has condition but has up 1.5k crit x 3 how can you complain about this weapon.

As Far as WvW I have never see a group of necro fear and enemy zerg off a cliff (hills would be a good place) or a group of ele supply Gs and ice bows on defense. Rangers have great LB range. The Commanders don’t organize real tactics. They don’t utitlize the strength of any class as a unit. Yes he man call for a portal or a water field buy that in using only one person or two. I don’t see a group of mesmers acting as a decoy zerg. ( Ok they cant lot of illusion are tartget based).

The point beginning Ranger and Other classes could have more of an identity and a role outside of the zerg beside a blob with a couple gimmicks here and there. Its not the class it the current tactics being used. (I Play on Blackgate)

Rangers learn to use your stow button (yes it would be better if you could key bind it). Having your pet attack from you side make it easier to keep an eye on your pet. It also makes it easier for you to learn the timing of your pet. Those of you who complain pets never work; this will improve how you and your pet work together.

Ranger are indeed in a good place right now. Yes our pet could be a bit better. My pets are my key to killing thieves.

Rangers that don’t effectively use their pets have major issue. I rarely have issue with my pet not using their skills.

So if you cant use your pet effectively you are righting with 30% less damge. If you don’t have the skill to make up the difference that melee is superior then you are fighting at a greater disadvantage.

We do have issue in WVW both that is due to two things. One not have extensive access to abused mechinisms like stealth, retailiation and fear. While we do have access we cant abuse them like other classes. Zerging the best thing but it is the easiest. WvW is just a mob and as such really Individuals have no duty but to keep themselves alive a try to collect bags.

early on removing your the auto attack help but it hampers your damage. Later once you get use to it you can add the add attack again.

Think of your normal dodge as a secondary dodge when using the 1h sword and your weapon evade skills as your main dodge.

It may require some of you to improve your reaction time to successfully pull it off.

Considering that once you master this you have up to 5 evades on a single weapon set it’s a skill worth the time it takes to master (automatically knowing when your able to use your normal dodge or weapon evade is part of the skill as you can normal dodge in between the attack chain).

Also deselecting auto targeting will help prevent Rangers leaping to their doom when fighting near a ledge or cliff.

Because its business. Supply and demand. right now everyone is craft ascended armor the price will go down.

Unselect auto targeting.

It takes time to learn to master the sword. It is one of our strongest weapons. Most of the rangers that have mastered this weapon don’t feel the despair that a lot rangers feel with the class.

Ranger and pet fight more as one unit in melee combat.

To charm a new pet you need to find a juvenile animal. They will always be green and all you have to do is walk up to them and press f.

So if you want a Polar bear you need to fine a juvenile polar bear just walk up to it and press if.

This is a bug than when a ranger logs out, disconnects and or sometime wp point the pet remains. These pet have owner already and most likely will have their default names these you can not tame. So if you have try to tame a juvenile animal and it doesn’t become your still is most likely the reason.

When using the 1h sword you need to consider your weapon evade as your primary dodge and your normal dodge as secondary.

Its funny how many rangers move very little when using a bow and want to move all the time when in melee. I think a small part of it they want what they cant have (mind you I said small part).

Bleed is one of our easier applied condition even with the flanking requirement I can get 25 stack a matter of seconds (roughly 2.7k every second) in spvp.

The flanking is just there to remind yougling they should be moving at all times.

A lot of rangers like burning but burning only stacks in duration.

As a ranger you really should be moving and not trying to stand two to two. The flanking is really a non issue.

Without the flanking requirement it would just be auto attacking spam. Positioning is really underrated. Rangers from Gw1 should remember positioning is everything for a ranger.

11,910 A count I very proud of.

Anyone using a bow can be called an archer. You are indeed able to kill at range and Ranger is the only class that can use both long and short bow that is unparalled.

You are hung up on a word in a description. By my understand all those things are true. In your understanding so many things are incorrect (the description the way Rangers actually work).

Yet I am the one who is mistaken. Things that make you go Hmm.

Ranger does not mean archer or attack for range. I went through the whole thing is this thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Bad-class-for-role-playing/3372962

Half the time most of you guy totally ignore your pet then get mad when it doesn’t insta cast its skills. I know where my pet is most of the time and I have no trouble getting its skills to work. Unless it dazed or inturrpted.

Pets also suffer from summoning sickness. so if you switch pets then use the skill right away it wont work you need like two secinds before using the skill.

Pet also use their big attack after being summon if its not on cool down.

We don’t need more control as it is now rangers don’t use what they have now.

Time is on the side of the condition ranger the longer the fight goes on the more likely he is to win. If the power ranger wins it more likely to be a quick fight. Condi need time to stack in that time the fight could be over.

The main problem with the power ranger is there is a long cool down between big burst.

Overall I give it to the condition Ranger because he can apply conditions and run. (Something I really dislike.) Kiting is one thing flat out running is a lose even if you didn’t get downed and stomped.