Guild Wars 2

Long bow is better suited for a power set up. With a zerker set up you can get 2-4k crits. Stay on the out skirts and pick your targets off. Between path of scar and two dogs you can push pull and knock down your target before he know what hitting him.

Spirit of Nature is an insta res. It provides passive healing and the active skill is an insta res.

It provide something like 480 heals per second while. It may not see like a lot in 10 seconds that’s 4800 points added back to your HP.

If your going to compare the two skills do it properly. Battle standard is a bit more offensive and spirit of nature is more defensive. You can debate which is more important the ability to deal damage or the ability to stay alive. In the end you need both.

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We /They really need to start being more precise with the usage of the word res. We often use the word res when we really mean rally. Anet is partly to blame because the use the word res in skill deceptions when they actually mean rally. We player just follow suite but we should know better.

Monster AI and pet Ai are two different things. Both monster and pets have a problem detect different elevations when there is no detectable paths (paths that don’t require jumping on or off.)

Pet A.I is meant to be imperfect. Having a set it and forget it pet isn’t what being a guildwars 2 ranger is about. Ranger are suppose to work in tandem with their pet. Not one or the other doing all the work. Just as you are able to lose an attacker you should be able to lose the pet. If pet hit you with every strike or auto attack it would be unfair.

Anet has said in the past that pets account for roughly 40% of our damage this was before the pet damage nerf. While damage may look the same on our bar in use it a different matter. We can produce do good game like some of the other classes but our big damage has a long cd.

MH axe doesn’t need more damage. Why does everyone go to one extreme or the other. People has so much trouble with content because of this. Why do you Need to go all dps or bunker. Why power or condition. The axe for me is that middle ground weapon. It is both a condition weapon and a power weapon. Both range and melee.

Its designed to do both. Doing one or the other leaves you lacking. This weapon also applies weakness. While this weapon is best use for multiple targets; it is great in reducing thieves backstab damage and heart seeker.

Speaking of weakness with all the issues rangers have with damage scaling we don’t get hit as hard by weakness as our pets damage stays intact.

at 1500 range there are few classes that can touch you in zerg vs zerg. Yes your pets ablitiy is important it doesn’t help if its dead.

I pick Ranger because of the pet. Giving a damage boost and perma stow will punish those who rightly pick the class (based on what it is not what it isn’t). With a perma stow option any ranger not using this option would be looked down upon.

search and destroy if you wait to help your team when they are dead its to late. Plus a player res is faster than a pets.

They could make pets better but then rangers would be op. Image a pet that few can out run that has damage ranging 2k -15k. Keep in mind that this is only pet damage.

The pet is part of the ranger. Yes pet die in aoe often times its the same aoe that would down or kill the ranger. For WvW one should pick pets like they pick weapons.

If you are running long bow with extra range why have your pet run in to the middle of the zerg. Granted we need two things in my option 1. Passive and attack needs to be on a hotkey. 2. Range pets need to be able to match the range of the ranger. It doesn’t make sense for the ranger to pick of foes at 1500 unit and the pet to run in even at 1000 unit it makes a difference.

A rang pet on Tequatel and protection on dodge make a big difference. If your using your pet for buffs guard help. If all else you can trait long bow for 1500 range and stand at a greater distance you will have to manual fire but you can hit him and never have to worry about the waves.

Sb bow is for mainly single target axe is multiple that’s the difference range isn’t the issue.

You have two weapon sets. We have stealth and a push to help keep distance on lb.
We do have issue with aoe attack and our pets are a weakness and a strength. Rangers have a lot of evade as it is. While OP suggestion might be nice we bigger issue to address. Wish list are fine and good but I rather Anet work on the pet and aoe issues first.

Pretty decent a group of rangers running this would have not trouble with Tequatl and would help keep each other up because you cant count on turrets for the buff.

$10 that’s like two beers or a kittentail at a bar that will just go into the toilet an hour later. Plus you can just use gold since everyone has like 200g sitting in the bank now.

Going to the movies by yourself runs about $30 with popcorn and snack and who goes to the movies alone. So it will run you $60. Considering how much fun and time I spend on GW2 $10 is a bargain.

It’s not called cash shop it’s the gem store. There is so much gold floating around right now there is no excuse not to change gold into gems and get the skins like everyone else.

Aye. When I said limited I meant to the ax and B bear and drake.

While it seems logical to some to have pets dodge when the player dodges it really doesn’t suit a BM build where most of the damage is dealt by the pet and during that time the ranger is just trying to stay alive.

People ask for aoe reduction yet they never use guard which is a 33% reduction skill in addition to positioning. I wished it was a fkey skill. While some skills will one shot you coupling weakness (very underrated condition and protection is usually adequate to survive.

Granted our access to weakness is a bit limited. Maybe a trait that makes pets deal weakness when we dodge.

We can always wish things were better. Staff I could maybe see on a ranger as in the whole druid aspect/warden of the forest.

Hammer doesn’t really fit the class. In GW1 we had dual professions so that where the whole thumper ranger came from. As a class that suppose to Roam a hammer is kind of heavy. (I miss games that made weapon weight affect movement speed).

Grand Master traits should be rewarding. If traits where everything we what at master level then what would the new grand master traits be.

I have always felt that 1 should be your main attack. Your other skill should be use to change the flow of battle. Those that complain that someone beat them because they are a noob and only spam the 1 key doesn’t know how to play. They failed to use their weapon skill and utilizes to change the battle.

Being relax in battle let you see everything better. The fight for you happen in slow motion. While they frantically try to keep up. You have all the time in the world to bait them to consider your positioning and that of your pets.

The first skill on all weapons are meant to be spammed the other skill need to be use at the right moment.

Yah who would take a part of a class over the whole class. Honestly I’m tired of Guardians. The heavy reliance on this class is really bad. everyone is running around with glass cannon builds and complain when the content is a little bit hard for that build.

I don’t need a Guardians regen or retaliation. I’m tired of them pushing stuff while im barraging or using whirling defense. I would most likely never take a Guardian over a ranger. Every class can block or has immunity we all can heal. Ok so he does it for the group that’s “special”. I can tie my own shoe’s I don’t need someone to do it for me.

In most cases 3 of any class is to much, with the exception of rangers. (not including wvw). What can we do we can adapt and fill in.

The Ranger class is a very good class we have issue but the fact remains it’s great. The class could have gone the way of the Rainbow phoenix or the Monk (In trust the monk has evolved into the Guardian).

The Ranger suffer from being to dang good. The pet ai sucks but if it were any better it would be OP. The smallest bump in anything in the rangers class make them OP. Rangers are gods underwater. Spirits are too good so they must die.

So you say we have the worst class mechanism I think ELEs do. Element attunement and conjured weapons.

Some of you created a ranger thinking; If I can kill someone before they even get in melee ranger it would be so cool. Then you play the game and realize that range damage is not on par with melee.

The other classes rely heavily on their class mechanism. Without their mechanic they are boring and mostly ineffective.

A thief who can’t or doesn’t stealth is most likely toast. Eles who don’t attune are garbage. Mesmer without clones die so fast. No portal and I think they would die out in WvW.

With as bad as the ranger class is: it’s the second most created class. What does that mean. It mean as soon Rangers have a build that is remotely Op everybody and their brother dust their ranger off and it seems like rangers are everywhere.

Do we have problems yes but what you guys fail to see is why.

IMO Rangers are the most enjoyable class to play. A lot of people come back to this class for that reason. Other play certain classed because they want to faceroll. Others like to be needed.

We are on the verge of the Rise of the Ranger. We have fought with handicaps and have adapted. We are arguably one of the best 1v1 classes even with our handicaps.

The Ranger Core like the USMC does more with less. The Ranger Core member kitten even now. That is why it is so hard to balance the Ranger. Because without all the handicaps the Rangers have; we would be the dominate class.

No matter what condition or power pets don’t benefit from our gear. Play the way you want and adapt it to the situation.

If you buy the mat then it’s costly if you craft and gather your self then no. If you don’t want to make ascended Weapons for yourself you can craft for profit.

You now have a way to make money with crafting and you guys are complaining.

I feel The ranger is a great class. Those that have trouble with the ranger usually have trouble keeping there pet alive or totally ignore them or only use their bows.

People complain that ranger can’t stack conditions like the other classes while this is good for pvp and wvw. In PvE you are in a group and need to work as a group. Those that stack a lot of condition tend to set on the damage of others in the group or have their damage totally negated because someone else has stronger condition damage.

Some say pet are useless yet one of our stronger build is still BM. While it’s true rangers don’t do zerker as well. We still can do really well with zerker builds in pve.

Learn to manage your pet and learn how to effectively use each weapon and you will see rangers are not as bad off as some would want to think.

That is true for the most part but cd still remain. So think of swapping more as an instant heal and condition removal but all skill on cd downs remain. Also note if you use two of the same pets like the white and black raven they share cool downs.

For me torment means Pain and fear. Both warrior and necros are known for this. Rangers not so much. I also think it kind of silly how both can fear you after. It’s Like having a Mesmer apply confusion and then have another skill that makes you attack through it.

We already do more damage than our pets unless. Unless you spec into your pet. But you cant compare that damage to what the ranger is doing at that time. That’s like comparing tank dps vs zerker dps. Full zerker vs Full Bm pet the ranger does more damage.

One of the problem with pets is that people feel pets are on auto pilot. If pets AI were perfect it would be OP. I kind of agree.

I came up with a thought and it may sound a bit crazy and I haven’t work the specifics out but what if we had a f5 skill for now lets call it Commune.

What Commune would do is switch the consciousness of the Ranger and the pet. The player would be in the pet and be able to use that pets skills kind of like when a player gets moa’ed (problem the is normal pet skills have a long recharge but skill could be addaed like the mesmers skills).

Pet would use AI from say bandits. I don’t know how long this would last or how long the cd if any there would be. But the player should be able to end it when they want.

If the player dies while he is communing he then goes back to his body and the pet is dies. The pet should be downed before death and if the pet is defeated while in the players form it acts as normal with the pet and the player both being defeat.

It would give more of a sense that the pet and the player are one. I know it sounds totally crazy but on some levels I think it could work without being totally op.

It would confuses players as to who is the real threat like Mesmer and kind of have an extra health bar like necros if the pet is killed first.

The specific would need to be worked out. And in a way it would be damage switch.

Crazy right.

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He failed to adapt. This is like a lot of rangers. He could of recovered at almost any point. Being skill at parkour could of helped but I think he fail at conception of the plan. Not taking into consideration the wet surface or planting himself at the start are other points to consider.

He failed to react.

We Rangers Adapt and overcome: We are Resilient. So what is with all of the crying and whining. I thought we had out grown that.

It seems some of the veteran Rangers have gone silent and our younglings have gotten a little hair on their chest and are making demands.

Ranger learn thy craft. If you can only play one build then you haven’t learned this class very well. If you can only play the flavor of the month build then you are just a visitor among the Ranger core. Mostly likely you will jump ship when your build take the slightest of nerfs.

Those of use who have play the class for a year have a different outlook than those who have only played the class for 1-6 months.

To suggest that we rangers stop helping each other and stop posting builds and video will only weaken us. The fist incarnation of a build is never the strongest.

We Rangers have gotten stronger because of all the videos and builds and guidance that our vets and new players have shared. He have shared our vision for the class with one another. We all don’t have the same dream yet we are stronger because of the shared communication.

Not sharing your build for spvp doesn’t do anything if its really that good someone will go into spectator mode and check out your set up so the only ones your hurting are the rest of your brothers and sister by not helping and giving advice.

Some of You complain that Anet doesn’t respond to post. I don’t think they have to the forum is for us. So that we can help one another. We don’t have to worry about someone phishing for info about our account so they can hack it later.

If you have a suggestion there is a suggestion forum use it. If you what know what other rangers think before you make an official suggestion then by all means post in the ranger forum.

Are you crying because your post got deleted. Well did you provide any solution or where you just kittening about choices Anet has made.

This isn’t WoW you don’t get a script to make everything work the way you want it.

If you think something isn’t working right put in a bug report if the reply is working as intend then share with the rest of us. You don’t like the choices Anet ‘s making you don’t have too. You what a reason why then here it is" We think it’s in the best interest of the game at this time."

Your want to know when they are putting something in the game. " It will be release when it’s ready" or “When the time is right”

Elder Rangers continue to share your wisdom With the Ranger Core. The Ranger core Community was formed over a year ago. It is our duty to lead The Core into the Future. To continue to adapt and over come. To do things that they say we can’t. To unlock the potentially and bring the full prowess of this class to bear.

What makes the ranger spirit build OP. As a ranger myself I have no trouble (I win some I lose some ) vs spirit rangers. Is it the multiple targets that get in the way like mesmers or mm necros . Is it the buff that are provided like like banner warriors.

While none of these in themselves are Op. I don’t believe have them all together makes them OP as none of the little parts are by no means the best or second best.

There is normally one boss and two or more players. If pets only took damage when bosses targeted them the would almost never take damage. If player are so concerned with pets taking aoe damage they would use the damage reduction skill available to them.

Is the cd on death balance, I would have to say no, However going the other way with the cd isn’t balance either and would be OP. Its the lesser of two evils. I don’t see a perfect solution to this.

Guard can be use for pet positioning. Removing this functionality isn’t making it better. The cast time makes it interruptible. While I wish it would be use as it once was (at the very least allow birds the full use of the old guard) they have also made changes to shouts.

There is a flip side to the coin. What type of exploit or abuse would occur if pet death recharge was 30 sec. or 20 sec or zero. While pet death can occasionally not be helped In certain content. Outside of those times it’s the rangers fault.

If pets had a really low death cd rangers would just roll over all content by having pets do all the damage. To solve that they would then just lower pet damage. Making pets totally useless. While some people would like to do away with pets all together realistically we know any plan along that line is against what Anet wants.

Yes that’s what I mean sorry for being unclear.

Why does everyone focus on damage. Yes it true that some ranger aoe are limited to 3, but we also know that ranger damage is on par with everyone else when using ele weapon not including pet damage.

If every class is so valuable in their roles then to use them for trebs or ac is certainly a waste of skill and talent. To have any other class solo camps is a waste of manpower that can be used in the zerg main body.

While rangers are not the best at anything in WvW we are capable of doing almost everything which can’t be said for the other classes.

What are rangers we are the resource that people don’t think they need until they don’t have it. While some of the other classes can be compare to oil or diamonds Rangers are the clean water and air that you forget to count until you don’t have it.

Now for the most part I am loving the changes to legendry’s. Even those I don’t own one my self (Zap come to poppa). Unless I missed something there is a downside to switching stats on your legendary.

Sigils are important to a lot of build and for some the core. While its true some weapon are better for power or condition. I was hoping that Legendary would be more core to my game play and not just a trophy to show of with. I was also hoping to free up some bag space.

Am I looking at this wrong.

Just about anything can work for PvE So find the set-up (gear and trait wise) that is effective and suites your play style for WvW and its easy enough to adapt it to PvE.

I couldn’t careless about how other classes view Rangers. As a Ranger I am free to do as I like. I look at the other classes and I see classes with gimmick abilities that have pigeon holed them into certain roles.

In wvw we don’t have a dedicated role. I feel that is our role if the other class are so valuable in their role then it really a shame to use the for anything else. Except with the way wvw is having more x classes in your zerg vs having more y class in your zerg really doesn’t matter. Because at the end of the day it comes down to the size of your zerg and the skill of the players participating.

The most notable of us Rangers show we can kick butt. In ever aspect of the game there are rangers that show us we can do it well. That we do make a difference for the better.

Some people cling to the old image of the ranger. I still hear people complaining about rangers pet aggroing. Ranger pets haven’t aggro’ed for two months. Your pet doesn’t put you in combat but it can keep you in combat.

Yes there are issue with the class but the biggest problem is how people play the game.
We have issue with how pet don’t scale at all in terms of gear quality. So we don’t scale well with power. But power isn’t the end all and be all. Power can be nice but there are draw back to it. However since most players glitch/exploit most pve content
being fragile is negated. With that said have you notice warriors and thieves are usually the first one’s downed.

Lots of people love guardians in a group, but if I never had a guardian in my group again it would be to soon. I don’t normally run zerker so I don’t need him to help me stay alive. Their damage is crap most of the time they pop their shield or wall of reflect all willy nilly. It’s the Dps is king notion that makes time warp and protection so sought after.

Some say the Queens Guantlet proves how bad off rangers are. I have no problem completing most of the achievements. Hardest achievement was the High stack gambler. In the end I did it will a beast masters build. Liadri was difficult not because of damage issues more because of the bad camera angle. I didn’t do the light up the darkness but in all my fail attempts damage wasn’t the issue it was me failing to avoid her clone once again due to bad camera angle.

I hear rangers saying this skill is useless and that skill is terrible. Not all skill are optimal for everything but each skill has it’s use. Some of them not so obvious. I you the ranger don’t full understand and appreciate the range and strength of your abilities how are the other classes to know what we are capable of.

We don’t have a cheesy OP mechanism that we abuse. We don’t spam terror or confusion or retaliation or stun lock people. For the most part when a ranger beats someone its because the ranger beat you and not some Op cheesy mechanic.

Rangers have one of the best down skills in the game. In a downed fight a ranger will rarely lose. The other classes have skills that seem nice but in the end don’t really do anything.

Mesners = no half decent player is fooled by his down illusions.
necro = fear can be a life saver if you can fear your enemy off a cliff or something.
In fact with the exception of the warrior when traited. Your pretty much dead after you use your big down skill.

Ranger can actually ralley themselves either by having their pet kill something or by using like wounds.

switching your pet before you use lick wounds can help do away with returning time of your pet. Be aware that pets can suffer from summoning sickness (2 second delay before becoming responsive).

I have had a champ beat on me and lick wounds was able to revive me.
Seriously Ranger have the best down state skills and underwater we are kitten near immortal.

I don’t think the devs need to comment. You know as a rule they don’t tell us about things until they happen. While I am concern about it worry is thinking turned toxic.

If they have address this issue already we wont know what form it has taken. If they have not it maybe to evaluate the power creep before making a move.

I think we have to wait and see.

Pets were buffed the patch prior to the nerf. The nerf following was to balance pets out. If you were soloing 4 people that is a good indication that it needed a nerf.

My Main is a ranger and while there are some issue with rangers I would not change my class for another. I want to earn my victories. I don’t what to win my battle because of some cheesy class mechanism that is op in its self.

The nerf was if I remember correctly was like 14%. What concerns me for is looking ahead and seeing a increases in damage and armor when we get Ascended gear that is not granted to our pets.

BM builds are still viable rangers still do well. Maybe its you. Have you been away and not kept up with the changes some traits in your tree my have moved so your not specced like you were.

As a whole the Ranger is stronger then at any point since release.

I still see people complaining about things that are no longer true like pets aggroing (pets don’t agro on their own anymore). Evaluate the class as it stands today.

I think the simplest fix would be to boost pet stats based on armor type. Example would be if I am wearing Masterwork armor my pets stat would be as they are now.
With the increase in stats to follow the quality boost in gear.

Rare 10% stat bonus
Exotic 30% stat bonus
Ascended 40% stat bonus

the specific values can be determine later.

I don’t want to be OP but the difference in rare and ascended is 30% that makes a big difference.

I would go with Jaguar because of the stealth and burst or ravens for the blind and burst. I would also consider wolf for the fear and the cripples and kd. I normally run Jaguar and wolf or ferns the healing of the fern hound regen isn’t going to help you vs thieves but they still kd and cripple.

The problem isn’t your armor. The problem is stability and damage. You need to avoid or protect your self during big attacks which may be harder for some than others.

The biggest problem is that the thief can blind you or just stealth to avoid your damage. If you can hit with your big attack like maul and path of scar or whatever you can put him down quick. Lighting reflex can help.

Pet don’t slow the player down. Pets no longer agros mobs. If the player aggros mobs your pet will not respond (in agro range but hasn’t taken damage). If you are hit by a mob you are put into combat weather or not your pet attacks. (note that your pet can keep you in combat so control your beast)

This was change like 2 months ago.

The issue isn’t that they can’t do it the issue is that it would make pets (rangers) Op.
Pets would hit with every attack you couldn’t use positioning avoid hits. Without a block or use of evade they would hit you every time. You wouldn’t be able to out run or juke them.

Think back to before the lowered pet leashing to all the times the a player out ran or lose you but you pet was on their butt. The difference would be they would continue to take damage every set of the way.

Guard alone help keep your pet alive with the 33% damage reduction it provides for you pet for 10 sec couple that with protection on dodge your pet could possible be with out protection for only 1 second ( or never if you have boon duration).

You don’t think it’s worth it to keep you pet alive then let both of your pets die with a 30 -40% reduction in your dps.

not to mention with the right build and traits you could provide regen for your party guard being one of the faster recharging shouts.
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Every class can do the gauntlet but not every spec in the class can. One may have a preferred play style or build but you the play need to realize that it may not work for all things. It not the class or anet that failed you. It’s the player that refuses to at minimum to became proficient in the builds available; that failed the class.

As fakitten ts go my pet was alive a dealing damage on each of my boss kills including Liadri. As a ranger it’s easier to have you pet hold agro if you use the long bow. Hunters shot stealth’s you and if your pet deal damage to mob while your stealth mobs normally aggros onto your pet.

Rangers are a pet class if you picked this class without knowing that then you probably picked the wrong class. If ranger received a buff for not having a pet it would force players who specifically pick the class for their pets to play without pets or be kicked from groups.

Anet has already said they have not intention of adding perma stow. This may change but I would stop playing the class is they did (probably game as well).

This content is challeging. To many people want it easy. I know for one I had to step my game up to be her. Mobs that one shot you are fine when you are given warning and with all the bosses you have plenty of warning or you can prevent it.

This is nothing wrong with punishing the player for failing to do something with death. The could alway do things to punish players in other way but people dont really want that.

They could have npc thieves that steal gold from you if you don’t avoid their telegraph attacks but then people will scream bloody murder. Having to multi task is challeging and if you dont thinkit’s challenging enough you can always add gambits to make the task harder.

Not all the Bosses are one shotters. A true challege has a great risk of failure making the achievement of said challenge all the sweeter once accomplished.

In other games your given gold stars for making a name. This is GW2 and I like the idea that not everyone is able to complete every or all the challenges.

Ranger are so viable. However one thing we lack is a role in alot of the content. This does not mean we are not viable. I would take 5 ranger over 5 of any class for any dungeon.

Guardians are expected to fill a certain role in a dungeon run get two Guardians and you start to feel it ( not in a good way).

A bad ranger can ruin a run more than any other class. I think this is why we get a bad wrap. Sadly there are alot of bad rangers out there. The main cause is not controlling your pet. Pet death isnt so much of an issue as poor pet management.

Most of those who feel utter disspear are those who can’t or don’t effectivly manage thier pet.

The class is viable. However a bad ranger can turn the simpliest content into a nightmare.

Good ranger kick kitten left and right. 40% more trait points would be op. Mesmers have pets and are heavly relient on them. They also need two trait them to do more damage and to be more. Ranger complain about how weak spirites were yet they are stonger than Mesmer clones.

I love how some of you love to compare rangers with classes and only look at half the picture or compare them to classes the least like the ranger.

Some of you guy don’t want to color in the lines which is fine ,but then complain that the guy picture next to you looks better.

Bm bunker is still one of our strongest builds yet some of you say pets are totally broken. Forget what you think you know or heard about the class. Re-evaluate the class as it stands today. Heed the words of some of our most sucessfull rangers when they tell you 1h sword is fine and that perma stow will not happen. Why because at one time they felt as you do and have mastered these two basic elements of being a ranger.

Rangers we are stronger today than we were yesterday and we will only be stronger tomorrow.

So get the idea that Anet hate ranger out of your head and rangers only get nerf.

Ranger cry because we have few aoe skills. Then you cry becuase there is a counter to aoe skills. We have 1 maybe two aoe skill(s). There is nothing wrong with retaliation. The idea that a single player can hit a group of players with one skill and another player can punish or protect you for doing so is balanced.

Other classes have far more aoe skills. Big damage has risks. You rolled your dice accept the outcome fate has given you.

This isn’t a L2P issue this is accept the consiquences of your actions issue. I take that back it is also a L2p issue you can negate all the damage from retaliation If its that big of a deal.

aye we do have a heal that can be traited. Plus we have great heals and lots of regen what more do you guys want.