Guild Wars 2

The vocal minority are the ones who got them to back out on their philosophy in the first place by ADDING a treadmill, sooo..yeah Anet please don’t cave to them. If you read the merged thread, there’s literally about 8000 people are angry about this vs 100 who are in support of ascended.

“Our goal is not to create a gear treadmill.”

Moving from one tier, to another, is a GEAR TREADMILL…It doesn’t matter how minor the jump is, the next tier will always be the carrot on the stick people keep chasing after. So many people feel like the manifesto and philosophy is being completely blown off and that ya’ll are backing down, and basically lied to us. Alternative paths to post-80 progression is the route to go, adding new tiers of gear in any form is enormously disappointing and disheartening, as people left their previous games to come here and support a game that would not turn into a standard old fashioned MMO walking the same tired path, and that’s the path you guys are beginning to choose for GW2 so it’s only a matter of time til people look elsewhere to newer titles for the innovation and equally as important developers who keep their promises.

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This question only works if the majority of the games population answers this question. For that the majority of the players would have to be on the forums. I’m pretty sure more than half of the people who play never visit the forums.

So who were the people that were for it? Because Linsay states that the decision was made due to feedback of the community. Well, it’s certainly not THIS community, I think that is pretty obvious now.

This is actually something that I’d love to know myself. I really wish they would tell us exactly how they find out this stuff. I’m all for the new content coming in, but this one thing remains a mystery to everyone. To be fair, I think it’s something we should all know the specifics of.

This. Quoted and bolded for truth.

Because if the devs haven’t noticed by now, the feedback since the announcement has been overwhelmingly negative. So the question becomes, who the kitten thought this was a good idea and who the kitten is actually getting precedence (suggestions-wise)? Several popular and oft-asked for features eg. TP preview, FoV slider, appearance change, guild halls etc. have not been added, yet Anet had the time to implement this kind of nonsense.

Forums are the worst place to get a survey. And let’s not forget the many threads complaining about what to do at lvl80 that piled up over the course of 3 months. You kinda forgot that. Quit trying out the mob effect, and thinking you guys represent everyone. This is a hot topic that’s why there’s a huge thread. And gaining more playable content will help get some groups back. What’s wrong with that? You want Gw2 to be a successful game, but you do not want to support it if it goes a certain way. Some of us actually want to support a game if it’s good. Not by what some manifesto/blog said.

It was a promise to the players of GW1 as well as everyone else that set GW2 apart, they had a vision and a promise that’s a MAJOR reason why so many people are here, and they’re backing out on it. People have the right to be angry about it, they’ve handed Anet their money based off the product we’ve been sold and promised, and they’re going back and changing it now that they have made their profit? People came here to get away from the run of the mill gear treadmill games that have plagued the genre, they came here because ArenaNet had a vision for GW2 and was actually bringing it to fruition, they came here because of a promise and a philosophy sold to them for YEARS. If ArenaNet backs out on their promises, then players will back out as well and you should KNOW how unforgiving the MMO community can be, sometimes it’s ridiculous but in this case it’s completely understandable.

The players manifesto is what brought so many players TO this game, the breaking of that manifesto and promise are what will cause so many players to LEAVE the game. It’s hard to respect a company that has spent years promising one thing, and then goes back on their promises.

I bought GW2 because I wanted something different from everything else, and what ArenaNet’s (now former, apparently) philosophy with GW2 was that they would never add a carrot on a stick/gear grind to the game, and that’s a huge design philosophy that set them apart from every other game and now they are going back on that promise. It will become just another old fashioned MMO that lacks vision, the truth is they could find ways around doing a gear treadill/carrot on a stick and they chose the cheap and easy route.

I do not support the gear treadmill, I feel lied to and I can’t believe I actually did believe them all these years that they’ve preached their steadfast belief in content over items, and promising not to do this very thing.

NO!!!!

This goes against their promise not to make this game a gear treadmill. If I wanted that I’d still play older games.

…Lol…ArenaNet mod deleted my post saying…

RIP Manifesto. Goodbye GW2 when the next big release comes around, because you completely eliminated a huge part of what made your game stand out.

They’re really trying to censor out the truth because they can’t keep a promise? It’s the truth, and they won’t even admit to it. That blog post was nothing but a commercial trying to hype us up for something we don’t WANT. ArenaNet PROMISED this would not happen with GW2 MANY times, you can find it in many pre-launch interviews, even post launch interviews. You can find it on the website in the videos section with the Manifesto videos. (Until they delete those, too ?) In Lions Arch, my guild of 480 people, EVERYONE is angry about this that I have seen.

I’m seriously considering uninstalling this game, I don’t know yet…I’m seriously shocked and disappointed.

Read it, disappointed in the broken manifesto. Seriously very, very, very disappointed in Anet.

Congratulations on the people complaining about hitting a “wall” and convincing them to be “forced” into breaking their promises and philosophy…

Then they should get creative instead of raising up gear tiers like they promised they wouldn’t. So much for this game being about fun, and content instead of the typical treadmill huh.

Reposting this video in protest to ascended armor. I would have thought Anet would have learned from all the other failed MMO’s on the market, players don’t take kindly to the breaking of promises, and outright lying.

A broken promise is a broken promise. People came to this game believing in this philosophy: http://www.arena.net/blog/the-golden-rules-of-guild-wars-2

I have not seen ONE person in the game, in my guild of almost 500 active players, or any friends of mine complain that there is no gear treadmill/power creep/carrot on a stick/whatever you want to call it. If as they say, the PLAYERS changed their mind of this? Who are they listening to? ONE group of people? What about everyone else that came here expecting to play a game for it’s content, and not for its gear grind? I have no problem with the current set up of going from Common to Exotic. Exotic needs to STAY the top item tier, though and the game as is in this regard.

Anet PROMISED this would not happen with this game, It’s been in all their pre-launch interviews, etc. Keep your promises, and don’t disrupt the philosophy/vision you had for this game before one vocal minority changes everything for everyone else. Because if this changes, GW2 will become little more than any other MMO that has hit the market to this day. It will be more of the same, and there will be a big backlash for this.

What I HAVE seen, from my almost 500 active player guild I mentioned before, is A LOT of anger and frustration over this “ascended” gear. You can count me among them on this, and among the rest of the players here posting against ascended gear. Don’t break your promises, and don’t break what will become known as “what was ONCE the vision of GW2.”.

I’m definitely disappointed in this as well, making a new tier of gear that’s better then what we have is something you typically do in an expansion, not the 2nd update of a game. And if this is an indication of how quickly they’re going to make our items obsolete then I really don’t think people will stick around…part of working to get the best gear you can is the satisfaction you get at the end when you’ve got what you want and can work on your next toon. I’m just now finishing all my exotics on my first one I made at launch and now I’m gonna have to work all over again on new items…This is disheartening tbh and I can see LOT’s of people are already not very happy with this decision…Plus I sorta fear that the explorable dungeons will be hard to find groups for now that everyone will be moving onto this new dungeon instead for the ascended gear..

I think I remember ArenaNet posting during beta that they planned to allow you to switch Orders or join the others once you finish Act 1 of your personal story, eventually. I would also like to change orders for whenever the next phase of the personal story is added to the game, as well as for weapon skins. I’m bored of my Order lol

It was the weapons that were increased, but the armor for T3 are far too expensive. I definitely agree with those saying it needs to be significantly reduced in price because there’s NO way any even remotely casual player will be able to afford those skins in any efficient amount of time. Not unless they make an easier/faster way to make gold.

lol the enthusiasm for the update is a good thing.

• Save Character Creation/Customization Template for when people can recustomize their characters once the make-over kits are available on the shop. This way, we can keep our original “designs” and any new ones and switch around over time if we want, and don’t totally lose it and get annoyed if we can’t get it back 100% if we decide we prefer one we had before.

Most of those armor skins are already available in game, though.

A wardrobe system like other games would be nice, but then they wouldn’t sell transmutation stones which I’m sure they sell a lot of. So I doubt it’s going to happen that way. I don’t really care at this point, but I do think it sucks that once you have lvl 80 gear you need a different more expensive type of transmutation stone that you find a lot less of doing world exploration. Rude…

I really miss my dual pistol mesmer from the beta test. I was in love with that play style, and when the head-start happened and I couldn’t do that anymore I was pretty bummed, I hope in the future they re-enable that option it looked really neat, did good DPS, and was honestly the most fun I had in the game. It’s unfortunate that GW2 takes place in this industrial era and all we can use is an off-hand pistol, which is a pretty weak option anyway IMO.

This bug happens to me still during big fights in WvW or with dragons. For a while I thought it might be some sort of awkward compatibility issue with my bose sound system but with so many people having the same problem I’m glad it isn’t that. I’ve tried everything from switching my settings, even un/re plugging my sound system. Settings in game don’t make a difference and you definitely have to restart the game for it to stop. It can also cause the game to crash, as I’ve been in the middle of these fights and turned my sound off to finish the fight before resetting and I’ve crashed after 5 or 6 minutes.

Sometimes, after resetting the game it will start happening again within 2 or 3 minutes of getting back into the game.

Waypoint fees need to be reduced, I don’t mind them but at level 80 they’re ridiculous when the game doesn’t offer much opportunity for making money really efficiently. I don’t really care what people say about playing the trade post, the tax on that is insane and needs to be reduced too. Everything else listed doesn’t really bother me.

I don’t think client side anti cheat programs are the answer, they’re notorious for causing problems with games and peoples computers by degrading performance and causing chunks of the player bases being unable to play the games that use them, and also being problematic for firewalls. That’s if you’re talking about a game-guard type software. I’m sure the game itself has anti cheat/anti hack stuff built into the engine already and they’re probably actively working to improve that.

Is it possible that some GPU’s or Monitor’s handle bloom/post processing differently? My game looks great with it enabled, but I see some people screenshots and it looks bad.

Has ArenaNet ever considered adding a Pay By Mobile option for gem purchases? Other ‘F2P’ games use this for people who have issues with credit/debit cards & paypal as well as preferring to just add it to their mobile/cell phone bill. It’s a really popular option in other games that I have seen and could help to alleviate some of these issues. Especially for people who don’t want to put their credit/debit card information online anywhere.

Noooo I want it to be armourrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!

LOL “arms and legs flapping around” I love the way they run, and how easily amused they seem to be, you have to remember that this is a species that is 25 years old in it’s entirety and the one you play was JUST born so it’s quite literally a child. It fits them tremendously well and I hope it never changes.

From my understanding I think some of the choices will matter more in future content.

I think humans are at a point where they will survive and prosper, or fall apart and fade into oblivion. It can go either way for them right now.

Yeah I have the karma set on my mesmer, I still want this one though lol I have a feeling it’ll be one of the new gem store costumes or something. Here’s hoping.

yeah its annoying.

I was wondering the same exact thing the last couple of days. I want this for my mesmer!!!

Which patch did they change the Karma gain from doing DE’s? I was running DE’s and within an hour or 2 I went from getting like 350 karma per event to like 7…

I played WoW since it came out, and I loved it. But nothing about MoP appeals to me, the game is extremely dated, and Blizzard seems to have long since lost it’s creativity because the game has just been a recycled treadmill of mildly epic proportions for years, now. I don’t think GW2 has much to worry about in the long term.

On the flip side I do wanna hear what they’ve got coming our way sometime soon

Well, according to a dev post, there’s an ‘exploit’ allowing people to basically cut in line for WVW queues, and it’s been sort of suggested that HoD may of figured out what that was and been using it.

In truth, though both JQ and SBI have the capability to bring HoD down if they were more organized, I know this is something ‘everyone’ keeps saying but it’s the truth. If you don’t like it and aren’t willing to do that then you probably shouldn’t be joining in WvW right now if you want to be winning. Whether JQ/SBI work together or individually to bring HoD down is irrelevant but we need to do one of the two with a focus there for the time being.

I’m generally a pretty patient person, but the amount of ridiculousness that are these story quests just makes me mad. Does the stupid eye really need a billion HP or whatever? Does this fight really need to take like an hour of my life? Is it REALLY that important for it to be a long grueling and horrendous fight, cause if their point was to make you feel sick and tired of the situation then that was a pretty bad idea. I’d rather be doing something else in the game than this, and I want to see how my story ends up and the feeling of such significant disjointedness that I will get from waiting forever for them to adjust these quests and fix them is enormously disappointing.

there’s so many freaking bugs with the stories, I’m getting pretty irritated. Did they not test any of these out? Voice overs don’t always initiate, cut scenes bug out, fights are a disaster, difficulty is not scaled appropriately most of the time it’s too hard depending on your class.. It’s a nightmare at the moment. ALL the level 70’s quests on my human mesmer have been hellish to complete. I like a challenge, but I don’t like ridiculous levels of difficulty not on a storyline mission, sorry.

I want titles! and more noticeable ones, too. I have like…One..and I didn’t even realize it for a long time. I rarely see anyone else with titles either and it’s kind of depressing!

^ And I see you also have the discoloration bug. I wonder if we will get any word on this? Thanks everyone for providing your screens!

So far it hasn’t happend on my Sylvari, so it looks like it’s just the humans.

It really is just that zone.

That zone has blurry moments, I think it might be intentional to represent the atmosphere there but im not totally sure.

armor skin glitches on human females, example: profane armor skin

Glad to see other people are taking notice and posting on it too, I’ve seen people mention it in chat before but I don’t think many people bother to post on the bug forum. I also sent a couple of other examples via the bug report thing in game for other armor sets and I’ll upload screenshots when I get the chance. I wonder if non-human female models have the same issue? Like Sylvari, and Norn etc or if it’s human specific.

I think the game has lot’s of sounds…More than I am used to in MMO’s that’s for sure.

The discolorations are a bug that came in the patch the other night, not the last one but the one before it. It was working as intended before that. The patch got rid of part of the abdomen midriff (not sure if that was intentional or not, I don’t really care about that so much, though) but the discoloration making torso’s gray/dark and stuff is horrible. Other armor skins also have weird bugs now, like cultural and faction/order gear on human females too.

The Midnight Ice Dye is the one I have on my actual set in the pictures for the leathery looking part w/straps & the royal purple or something for the other part. I know it’s probably not the best picture to display that but I took the screens exclusively to show where the discoloration happens starting at the neck etc lol.

A second picture example, starts at the neck just using a chest piece for an example. I’ll try to get images of other sets if needed, although hopefully ArenaNet already has these issues being fixed or investigated..?

There’s a bug with armor skins on human females, I don’t know if it’s the same on other races but one such example is the Profane armor skin set from the gem store, it discolors the torso significantly and also part of the abdomen is missing (the midriff area) I’ve also seen bugs with cultural armor (human) on female characters too.

As of the last patch there’s gear skin bugs all over the place, theres bugs with weapons and bugs with armor on human female characters. Profane Armor Skin human women lose their abdomine and their torso is colored gray, T3 cultural human sets take a chunk out of female characters, and I think I noticed a couple of others running around and have seen people talking about it.

There are some armor skin issues since the last update, as well. I noticed it on gem store armor skins and a couple of others on human females. It causes the torso’s to be colored weirdly.