Guild Wars 2

Aomine.5012:

Why not be patient and wait for more news about HoT before you make quick judgement?

Some of us can be patient, other will not. In any case, Is it good for anet to ask that from its players? I dont think so, they should want us to buy, to be prayng for the day this will come. But what we are experiencing is dissapointment… before buying it… That should be wrong.

but guys, when some of you are saying “if you want peacefull places, go to starter areas or go to the cities”, you are forgetting that we have to pay for HoT.
I mean, i already have peacefull places, i know, i paid for them 3 years ago and i love them.
The question is: when i pay for HoT, what would i recieve? SW 2.0? 3 minimaps? big maps, plenty of exploration?… When that get answered and a price tag will be decided, then i’ll know if i will want to buy it or not.
So far, i dont, cause so far they have shown stuff that im not interested in, or the things that i am interested in, seems to be testimonial or small.

I agree with dekou. Some of us like to explore, to spend time admiring this or that corner of the map, and exploring several maps, the bigger the better. in fact GW2 has a lot of those special, and paceful places where you just can enjoy yourself.
But it seems (from what they have told us and show us so far) that what all of us we’ll have will be just 2-3 maps, of a SW size, and plenty of flashes, explosions and “stuff to do”…

I support this idea. It has been proposed several times before, but due that anet still hasnt moved nothing about, it is ok to ask again for it.

Change the first guild mission, to one that small guilds can do, so they can prosper as a guild. Or allow merits to be bought with gold, like influence.

The Pve aspect shown so far has been really dissapointing to me. But the key will be the price.
That will make the decission of to buy or not to buy.

and dungeons are the only thing that will never get old, you can always come back with a bunch (4) of friends and do it.
The metaevents are cool, but if in 6 years not enough people is playing, you wont be able to do it. For the long term you need instances, or you wont be able to play.

This would be great. But i dont think so, they would have announced it, like precursors

I would want another long bow who stay on the trend of Kudzu: floral, woods, sylvary. Of course with a different design, but with the same trend.
That would be the only legendary that i would make.

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1.- Surrender the game and its mechanics to haters who just want a different game than GW2, more competitive, less cooperative.
2.- Very little amount of content. very new little things to do
3.- High price.

I would want to pay just gold for guild halls. Even if it is too much gold. people will be able to have guild halls even with real money, through gems.
But merits are only obteinable playing, and playing with enough people to surpass the hunter guild mission wall.

So i would request for 1 of this 2 (or both)
a) Guild halls adquisition and progress with gold
b) Guild missions change (first race or puzzle, then the others). As long as Hunter GM is the first one, a lot of small guilds cant advance.

im into the lore one, but i will master the most usefull first (wich i think it will be the combat one, or exploratory one)

ill use the tomes, and will start with a revenant on lvl 80.
At the end of the day my main is the ranger and ill play all the new content and all the new story with him, not with the revenant.

I would add to the first post that dry top and SW it also demand time to play at it. It is not a casual event were you go, have fun and leave.
No, on those maps you have to work, for an hour or for an specific time, to achieve the reward. At the beginnig is good, of course, cause it is new, and you are discobering it, and managing it. But after 20 times, it is just too long, too demanding, and with not enough reward to want to repeat it again.
Im sacared about the new expansion, cause i believe for what I saw yesterday, that it is going to be just 2-3 maps in a SW or dry top way. Content repeateble for a long time until you get bored and tired of it. And with 2-3 maps, that “boring line” can get faster than you think… And paying for that? cmon..

Mine will be a charr female. Is one of the race/gender that i dont have yet.

It will depend on the final prize and the final stuff that the expansion brings.
So far, to me it is small content, so ill buy it if it has a small prize.

It doesn’t matter what anet said or didnt say in the past, the only thing that matters is that they have presented to us a LS + feature update worth of content as the core or main stuff in their “expansion”, and they plan to charge us for it.

I dont know if that was the plan all along, or it was just something that came out from a hat.
The truth is that is very small content for a paid expansion. They know it, we know it.

At the end of the day what will make the success or not of the expansion, will be the prize. All that content for $10 it is a good prize. All that content for $30, $50 or more (like Rin propose and hope), will be an scam.
And sure, some people will buy it no matter what, but some people won’t. Thats the issue as a company for making paid expansions, that they are going to reduce no matter what their population.

Lets see how Anet managed this… I dont know how they fall into expansion stuff and paid stuff… they listened to those guys who hate the game and want it something else, but in the process they may lose more people… cause those who complained during 2 years think the same as anybody else (except mega fans who will pay whatever): that this expansion may be not worthy of paying too much…

Edit: about how we can say that it is small content, just make this exercise: compare GW2 with GW2HoT:

1 class in HoT —-- 8 in GW2
1 pvp map in HoT—- 6 or 7 in GW2 + 3 through LS, free
1 wvw map in HoT —- 4 in Gw2 + 1 through LS, free
1 pvp mode in HoT —-- 1 in Gw2 + 1 through LS, free
Guild halls in HoT —-— No Guild Halls in Gw2
1 elite + 1 healing + “a set of skills” per class in HoT —-— 25 skills or more per profession in Gw2, with free changes and updates through LS.
legendaries and precursors in HoT —-- legendaries and precursors in GW2
small quantity of pve maps in HoT——- decenes of maps in Gw2
masteries in HoT —-— Exp in Gw2

Thats about what they talk to us. Idk if there are dungeons in place or not, but it seems that no, because they presented the legendaries as a main thing….

So… compare, please. HoT has not determined prize yet, Gw2 was $45-$55 depending on offers.
Any one that had made that comparison, will agree that, in addition to be a lot less than Gw2 (which it is logical, due that it is an expansion), it is pretty similar (thought it not even reach..) to a bunch of LS and features updates… which were free on the past.
Each one, extract your own conclussions.

I sadly agree with the original poster… no many maps for pve, just 1 map for mvm, just 1 map for pvp, just 1 profession, guild halls probbably unobtenible in small guilds, no word about dungeons, no word about races, an elite and a healing skill for each profession.. and a few more skills… To me sounds more like a pay for play LS or feature update than a pay for play expansion…

It would be great if it was free, like LS, but the prize must be very low if they expect the whole community to buy it at launch

Doing a simple arithmetic rule:

8 classes —-————- $50
1 class —-—————— X

X=6.25, if they want to round it up, ok, lest go to $10.

Even if we can take other things into consideration (like pve maps, guild halls, legendaries, the new WvW map, the new PvP map, and mode, the specializations, the masteries…) all of that compared to what Gw2 bringed for $50, reassure that the price should be veeeeery much low (cause the content is veeeeery much low).

So over $10 i will consider it an scam.
Other thing is that we’ll buy it as a caprice or fancy stuff, even if it is overpriced. But just to let you know: even if it is and it is called an “expansion”, it is not too much content and it shouldnt be prized like that.

same problem here too

+1 to the stetic mounts. i dont need them to run faster.

Derigar.7810:

Honestly, how many of you would’ve rather seen an expansion pack?

Living story gives us:
- Free updates
- Every 2 or so weeks
- Small amount of content

An expansion pack gives us
- Paid update
- All updates in one big batch
- Massive amount of content

Now, I don’t want to sound like an ungrateful person, but I’d rather have paid for an expansion pack. Why? Because I would have loved to see a new profession, race, a lot of new lands and more! Me and friends have been speculating the Chronomancer ever since before release. We were all very sad when it didn’t come as we were wanting to make a video series about “Back to the Future”. Alas…

I definetly prefer this way. To me the words free ad every 2 weeks are more than enough reason. In addition that “Small amount of content” is a subjective opinion, that i dont share. For 2 weeks the kind of content we recieved and that it’ll be permanent is pretty good.

An expansion will give you like 30ish missions like the 3 we recieved last tuesday, 2 or 3 maps and you’ll have to pay for it. BIG NO.

I prefer this episodic system. In addition they have improved the content. Anet, dont listen too much these critics. People is actually in game enjoyng the content and take the Evon-Kiel debate as an example: people in forums are not the mayority of the community. The mayority is already playng, voting for Kiel and very much in favor on what you are doing.
Can be improved? Sure. Expansion is the best option? No way.

omg… guys, dont you realize that not everybody is able/wants to kill liadri? the same way not everybody is able/wants to do a jumping puzzle. So if you dont want to do a jumping puzzle, dont do it
If you want but you cant, improve your skills.
there is nothing else to say. stop complaining.

+1 I loved this update.

my personal bets and analiss of the trailer:
- the strange cargo that Taimi detected in the festival are bombs that were put there by aetherblades.
- The trailer shows clearly a new area. But i think it is just the west-south corner of the brisban map. Hopefully im wrong and they add a new entire map, but i thing that on 1st july, we’ll just see a small corner of a present map (I mean, the patch it is called the door of Maguuma, right? the door is before entering the place…)
- I see inquest golem and mother devourer with their childs… new bosses or just random foes? i expect it will be the second.
- Sand storms! cool. may be just decoration or who knows, maybe some kind of gameplay attached to it. Eather way, i like it.
- It seems that the new journal has made more room for better iterations with cinematics, npcs, biconics, etc. Love it.

So… Im hyped and i want to play it XD. I dont expect too much specially, but to me new exploring things are the best gife they can send me, so im ready.

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Hi, I actually don’t know if you guys have debated about this before, sorry if that is the case. But i just wanted to say that the actual LA, the one after the scarlet mess and with merchants everywere is the best one, in my humble opinion

I wouldn’t mind to see artistic changes in the future, but i would really enjoy to see maintained those merchants all around every place. yo can go to almost every single location in LA and you will find craftmenships, banks, BL merchants…

I guess that in the future the city will rise again, and all that mess will be recrafted, but i hope that we will continue having this “life” all around LA.

I agree with the idea about, after a time 6 months, a whole year…), making the new faces/hair/colours available from the start, from free.

I love some of the new faces, but due I already got used to my original face, it is really strange for me to change it. So at the end of the day, i dont change it, and i dont buy the kit.

But if i was making a new character, probably i would use some of that new faces/hair. But because i dont find it from the start, i wont do it.
I guess that anet is not into making it a new addition to the game, rather than a new addition to their shop. At least not at this point.
I’ll add that to my personal dissapointment bar after they change the politics around this hair/faces only available from kits.

I saw them yesterday on the same spot as before: in the apple trees of south gendarran. they don’t speak, as before.

At least we know their plans, not like in the past when we were asking and asking…
1st of July it is. Too long in my opinion. If we recieve new maps and stuff it will be worthy, though.
In any case… June is going to be a month of not so much playng if there is nothing new

I wont pay for an expansion, so i choose the free LS. In addition is nice to have new content (even if is small) each 2 weeks or so.

Im happier that at least we know what are their plans for the next future. I definetly prefer a recycle rather than silence/nothing.

Let me add that other games doesnt need to say anything, because they have a playable game. So it doesnt matter if you dont hear anything in 6 months. But in this case, where we have present issues, hearing nothing is suicide.
We need to know that something is coming, something better than the present, actually.

To be clear, I’m not complaining about the past. I am complaining about the present (megaserver, where you cant make guild missions, or in europe, where you cant organize properly a megaevent, first because you dont have your friends with you and second because you are surrounded by people who speaks french, spanish, german, english… so at the end everybody do what they think is the best and 0 organization), and about the future (where is a lack of vision or knowledge. I just dont know what they are going to do,assuming that they are doing something in the first place…)
Horrible present + no word about future = do the math yourself.
And in fact is not a complaint anymore, it is just a reminder. The game is currently in this state, with no present and no future… (at least from an occidental perspective) If I worked in Anet or NCsoft i would be worry about that kind of state…
And I agree tha solving the present problem may be tricky (although there are options, like erase megaserver, or create instances), but the future issue can be solved pretty quickly just sayng something. we are going to do this, we are going to do that on this date… something. Silence, at this moment, is the worst marketing campaign that i saw ever (and anet gave us nice pearls in the past about it… like the “Canach Dungeon” and stuff like that… XD, so that previous sentence means a lot)
I hope that China at least respond well to the game, thats were i guess it is really the Anet’s focus.

In my opinion megaserver dont work and will never work, because no machine can know what i want to do right now. The machine can guess that i want to do guild misions with this particular guild in this specific area, but i can choose to join another guild and play with them.
Or even the machine can think that i want to play in the same server that this guy from my guild. But no, i prefer to play with this other guy.

You know what I mean? there is no way to improve the megaserver, because it will never know what i want to do today and with who.

Please, i propose instances, that we can create our own insances, for free, or just erase megaerver and come back to the previous iteration.

I hope that Regina and the rest of devs realize that thikittenus and lack of knowledge about the future is making people leave…
and unless LS come back really strong, they wont return…
They are winning new players with the china’s release, but they are loosing a lot of europeans because megaserver and lack of vision on the future…

I demand more maps (i mean, come on… 2 years already…), i would want new race (i know, it is impossible) and i hope for the megaserver to be erased.
thats my 3 wishes.

in any case a new race would born in a megaserver era (aka unplayabe with your server, friends or guilds) so… what is the point?

It is funny to me reading that when somebody talks in a language that you don’t understand, it bothers you… XD. Man, you should learn another languages, not complain about that you don’t understand them.
Do you know that the language more used in the world is chinese, followed by spanish and english is just the 3rd one?

In europe we are very used to that language/culture differences: in a relative small place like europe, we have soooo many different cultures and languages, and we have sooooo many years of history (good and bad) behind us that is pretty ussual to be curious about your neighbours, their culture and their languages. Im from Spain, so my mother tongue is spanish, but I also know english and if somebody talks to me in french, portuguese and italian, probably I will understand what they are saying (thought I have to admit that i would not be able to reply in those languages). And i am just a random spanish guy. German to me is a lot more different (and complicated) so i can only say and understand words whithout context XD.
But if somebody talks in german, it wont bother me. I just would wish to know german.
Just talking about Spain, only in Spain there are 4 official languages (spanish, gallego, catalan and euskera) and a lot of different accents and modified words: even talking spanish, a person will speak differently if they are from northen areas than if you are from the south, like happens in USA with southern areas and northern ones.
A similar thing happen to the rest of europe, france have more languages tahn french, belgium has 2 languages…

So, the thing is that we all in europe are aware of the different cultures and languages since we born. So the first thing we do is to learn our mother tongue, and then the others until the point you decide is enough.

As you comented in your post, i think is a cultural thing: all the english speaker people that I know (from UK, New Zealand and USA) only knew english. thats it. And only the ones from UK were a little ashamed about it XD.
I undersand why english people don’t bother to learn something outside of english: they don’t need it, because the rest of the world knows that language (it is pretty easy to learn).
But we live in a global world…
In any case, dont believe that english is a common language in the world… it is just the easiest to learn, and a garantee that you will be able to comunicate with others, if you dont know their language.

I use to watch a lot of US tv, and i am remembering “The amazing race” and how fustrated and even kittened off some contestants get when they go for example to china and they dont know or dont whant to speak in english…. XD. Information is power, and to be able to comunicate and understand other languages is part of that. I think all europe knows that (except UK)

Said all that, I think my point is clear: megaserver wont be a mayor issue. in overflows people speak english if they want to be understood by anyone, and in megaservers i think it will be exactly the same.

yeah, but at least they could say: guys, connect tomorrow, something will be waiting for you on april’s fool.

Due that nothing has been said, I guess nothing is coming.

That, or they have the worst marketing team ever.

YES

6/10. definetly i want anet keep improving it and forget about pay expansions: LS have so much possibilites…

I love it! huge patch.
The best thing for me about these changes? That you can obtain traits playing specific dungeons, doing some tasks… love it

I love this idea too.
The game has so many posibbilities that is just sad that nothing is happenning…

Thanks Colin, it is not clear yet, but at least we know that it would be just something similar to guild missions, account achievement system, spectator mode, new pvp maps, daily world boss chests, removing culling and giving visibility options, the WvW WxP system, etc. Nothing more, nothing less.
I like that kind of update, so I just hope that the rest of the players read it too and don’t believe something else is coming…

In my guild (500 people) most of them believe that an expansion is coming after 18th… Some of them even think it would be an expansion that you will be able to buy on stores, and others even believe that instead of money, you will have the chance to buy it through gems…
I have tried to convince them that is not going to be the case, but seriously, due that there is no information , people are starting to hype themselves without control.

If I were Anet, I would be clear about what is coming, the sooner the better. With more urgency if is going to be less than what people is thinking…

Anet said several times before that they learn from the past, but in this case I think that may happen like the canach “dungeon” update…. a lot of hype followed by a lot of player dissapointment.
There is no point on tighten even more the rope between players and developers or company trust, right?
But well, i don’t work in anet, they’ll know how to handle it I guess.

PS: let me add that in general terms and because of the first months of poorly made updates, a lot of people felt that LS season 1 was not good, and every body is specially focus on what is coming. Maybe I’m wrong, but I believe that the first update of the LS season 2 is going to be of massive importance for the players. A bad start can means a lot of player issues. And not be clear about what is coming is a start of a bad start, in my opinion…

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It makes me feel that the LS has real consequences.

1. Ranger
2. Warrior (it needs a big nerf so it cant over pass other professions in PvE)
3. Guardian (it needs a big nerf so it cant over pass other professions in PvE)

1-Tengu
2-Skritt
3-Largos