Guild Wars 2

I agree with the people who says that fractal is not the key question in this battle. At least in my mind is not. That is why i base my vote in character personality and keys vs wp.
Kiel is the winner.

<————————- KIEL SUPPORTER

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thats why i thing that the real deal is the keys vs wp.

Vote for kiel

FateOmega.9601:

Why do people like to overthink such a simple plot line?

agree 100%

I have learned to see GW2 history as it is, no as I expect it to be, with twists and all of that.

To me is clear:
Evon= assassin, lier, thief
Kiel=heroine, honest, modest

thanks to many votes you can try to do the achievements many times.
But I agree i would have preferred a democratic election , with 1 only vote per account.

However it is what it is so… vote so many times as you wish to support your candidate.

I think it was so close because of your point 5. After completing achievements, the extra votes will be to your real candidate, and that would be the real deal.

I still believe, and hope, that kiel is going to win. With a lot more margin than the actual one. If I was and evon supporter I will stop buying votes. It will be money wasted.

The fact is that 3 million people bought the game. And… how many people write or read forums?
That’s why Kiel is winning and should win.

At least my votes are coming to her.
If I were an evon fan, i would stop voting him, or even waste gold on him. because no matter what, he is loosing and he will loose.

people knows who is kiel and she is likeable. people dont know who is evon, and the little we know is that he is an assassin, a lier, and a thief. This election was done just form the start.

I think that it is close so far becouse people is doing both achievements and they need to vot for both.
This weekend and next week will be the real deal.
My votes will be without doubts to KIEL, and not only on saturday

GO KIEL!

About fractals choices: I imagine the evon’s one an aquatic one, with fights against margonites (pirates) both in water and in their ships, and finnaly an abbadon plenty of agony to share with us.

To me sounds better that what I imagine for kiel’s one (tipical asura lad, and fight against asuras and its robots).

but the sale from both… it is definetly better the one from kiel (at least in my opinion). Black lion keys against wp? it is clear to me.

I think I´ll vote for Kiel. Sorry Abbadon, at the end i expect you to be just a fractal. No lore. So sales won to me.

To be honest…
Don´t forget that this would be just a fractal. I mean: mobs, advance, mobs, advance, agonny boss.
Don´t expect lore.

However, what we should consider is the aspect or theme of that fractal.
I imagine the evon’s one an aquatic one, with fights against margolites (pirates) both in water and in their ships, and finnaly an abbadon plenty of agony to share with us.

To me sounds better that what I imagine for kiel’s one (tipical asura lab, and fight against asuras and its robots).

But the sale from both… it is definetly better the one from kiel (at least in my opinion). Black lion keys against wp? it is clear to me.

I think I´ll vote for Kiel. Sorry Abbadon, at the end i expect you to be just a fractal. No lore.

In fact, I would say that the main charater for the last living story is the Human Kiel. Remember that, in game, kasmeer is just an add and in the blog it was the story of Kiel and what she experienced with kasmeer and faren.
We all agree that Kasmeer is more interesting that Kiel, but the protagonist is still Kiel.

We all assume that, but the reality is that we don´t know what is that golem, why is he there or why we have to kill him. Storytelling has been incredible awfull this time.

Agree with this posts. Big dissapointment is the word. The story telling is terrible.

I agree completely to you posts here, and i will add another problem that i detected, the location work (at least the spanish version) is terrible. With dialogues that makes no sense, girls called boys. When you finish a conversation you stay looking the window and you just can wonder: WTF?!
Then you read the text in the chat and you see that is very very porrle done.
It is like if the translation was done with google.

I agree with marcus, all the defects, problems and dissapointments comes because of a time issue.
Although we all like new content, what we want really is content that we can enjoy. This update was not.

To be honest, I don´t trust there is real story behind this. To me what I exprienced yesterday was a simple mess with 0 attachement of my person to the story. Kiel is a 0 to me and canach… I don´t understand what is his plan with contracts or why it is something wrong that kiel and ourselves need to stop.

Awfull storytelling this time

I agree, I experienced this problem too.
If they don´t think about the pets when they are developing the game, at least why don´t let us completely turn it off temporary when we wanted?

The way that I did was to stay the whole time in the hall, close to the wall, with the pet in pasive mode. Then I killed canach with the 2 closest mines, little by little.

In any case, frustrating. If a ranger wants the achievenment of not going into the traps, with no problems, he can’t enter on the lair. he has to be outside

I feel such dissapointment that I can´t even tell you. Anet and their marketing department really need to stop the hype…
Something like rox and brahm lairs were good, this is really bad. I appreciate that this is new content, but it leaves you with sadness. I would prefer to wait more and have more content an better on.

And what happens with the story? We knew that they were not good story tellers, but cmon, this time was terrible. If I only played the game, I wouldn´t have any idea who is that golem, why canach is a fugitive… I still don´t know why we fight against the golem (and yes i know that he belongs to blingg and all that stuff).

And the location departments… I don´t know about other languages, but in the spanish version they think that kasmeer is a boy, or the new cat minipet comes with a unique bow (taking bow as the weapon one…). The translation of the dialogues looks done with google translator. It feels like you don´t know your own characters or game or lore…
I just feel such disconection, It is so poorly done that I can´t exprese it properly.

My feedback: It seems like you didn’t have enough time to do a nice job for the May 28th update. I can understand bugs, but I can’t understand disconection from the lore, locations problems or really dissapointed content. Please, if you need it, take more time. It seems that you have the ideas but they have been so poorly implemented… The lore of GW is so good…and you are killing it, you are disconecting me from the lore. Not beacuse you are not telling me the story that i want, but because it feels that you want to tell me an story and I can´t understand it because has been so badly told. It leaves me a sad expresion on my face and a big WHAT??!! on my mind.

And please, you can´t “sell” to us that this was a dungeon. Stop the hype. I was a defender of this way of telling stories, but this update was a mess. I have read that you have learned some stuff from the past that you were going to put a dungeon… that makes me expect some things and… you know already what I feel. Worst update so far.

Durzlla, I have seen him here, maybe you missed it:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/canachs-story-an-after-hours-meeting/

And anet says nothing about his changes in that. And again, I don´t want to have an explanation of that changes, I just want a proof that:
a) Anet knows that canach was different before
b) Anet knows that we know that canach was different before

From what I see in lore so far (with the exception of the answer in this topic, created by a fan, not by Anet) there is no proof. To me its like if they changed the charachter and expected from us to no notice it.
But, because we noticed it, they explained the reasons of the change as an answer in the forum…

Do you understand now my complaint? It is the way that they dealed with this specific lore. Again, please anet, be more careful with this. I doesn´t look good

Absolutley, I will buy it. They got me just only with what I have seen so far in these 9 months. It would be awesome to continue with new maps, new races, new stories, new goals…
So far the living world keep us entertaning a few hours with new content but I would want a lot more.

I´m a PvE guy. I like to discover new maps, new dungeons, chat with people, inmerse myself in the lore and story and work and play with others, specially my guild.

The best thing from the game so far and what I expect more from future updates are:
.- map
.-dungeons
.-guild missions (or any guild or group activity)
.-Story and lore (it is a little dissapointment so far but I expect grat things from the lore that this game has)
.-skins and items (but please, let us obteined playing directly, like the last backpieces from southsun, thats the kind of item that I like)

Althought I like the given explanation, I don´t like the way it is presented.
If somebedy would say, in game: “canach! what happened to you! you look like crap” or “you look so diferent” then that would be enough for me. Because that will show that anet know what is going on in their game and shows that they take care about what we know.

But to be honest, I don´t expect anything about it. They would say that he is the one who scape in karka event as much and we, as players, will say… ok, if you say so… i remember him completly different… maybe I´m wrong, it was a few months ago…

Cmon guys, you are presenting a history, in a slowly way (which I think is a good method). Think a little about these details, is not too hard, because if you don´t you break the attachement that we can feel with the story. I´m not asking to explain what Scott McGough explained before in game, we can imagine that or elavorate theories, i just want something that show us that you are not careless or something that show that you don´t think that we are careless.
Because that is whakitten feels from here, that you are careless or think that we are (or both).
Maybe I´m wrong and something it is said in the game about this, but… Im suspicious thakitten wont. The npcs will act as if canach was always like this new version.

Me too. The only problem that he has is that he is capable to do anything in order to screw the consortium (like he did in November).
But actually… who likes the consortium?
His reasons are fine to me, I support his goal.

In other hand I agree that making the karka angry is not the solution, so we need to stop him.
I just hope that we don´t kill him and he can return or even help us in the future. He can be the bad ally that everybody has. It would be nice to teach him how to do things in a more noble way. Please anet, dont kill him. Let us know him better!

Making a balance, this is the interest that I have so far about the new presented npcs:

1.-Canach
2.-Rox
3.-Kasmeer
4.-Lord Faren
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5.- Kiel
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6.-Braham

It seems like, at least the temporary content, will last the whole month:
“So our temporary content will last just the month”

It was said on 30th of april at what day and what time you wouldn´t be able to do these things anymore. If you “thought” other thing, it was your own mistake. You should be dissapointed, but no with anet, but with yourself.
In addition, it was said in forums again and again.

If you go to the SE coast, it is always sunny. And you can find a lot of tourist drinking, and taking sun next to their bungalows. It’s only the northen side of the island the one who always is under rain effect.

The braham and rox’s minidungeons still remain. Now they are new instances added to the world where you can have a few conversations and adquire some items from merchants.

In the molten aliance fungeon, braham ask for otillia to one prisioner and he says something like: “don’t… don’t ask me that right know, we have to leave this place”
in a way that seems to know what happens with her.
In my opinion, she is alive and she is the one running the aliance. Mwaahaha

You can do the secret contact one, but i think lost % found no

They said already that it will start on May 12th at 21:00 (time in Spain) and it will be available for several days.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/flameandfrost/A-Guide-to-Flame-Frost-Retribution/first#post1983258

“Here’s a rough schedule:

The Molten Facility dungeon will be available until Sunday, May 12^^at 12:00pm Pacific, when the entire Flame and Frost saga will progress to an epilogue. At this point, players will no longer be able to earn achievements associated with the previous chapters of Flame and Frost, nor will they be able to earn the achievement Rage against the War Machine.
The Flame and Frost epilogue will be active from Sunday, May 12 at 12:00pm Pacific until Thursday May 16 at 12:00am Pacific. The epilogue will mostly consist of conversations and story elements; there are no exclusive rewards to be given at this time."

You need to read more.

Kudzu.
Looks perfect on my green sylvary ranger. too much birds in the sound aspect, but cool enought

I loved the F&F arc. I little slow for me, but in any case far better than the 3 days event of karkaland, plenty of bugs, lag and with no room to fix it.
I prefer to have a lot of time to do it, and then I´ll decide if I will finish it on the first day or on the last one.
About the “solo” debate, I prefer to take the story in solo mode, because if I want to stop here and there, I can. But said that, I´m not the only one with this mentality, so it was really easy for me to find another 4 friends who wanted to do their first atemp of the molten dungeon in a slow and discovery way. The result was that we all 5 had a lot of fun. More fun that if I had made the dungeon solo with 4 npcs.

So thumbs up for F&F. My only issue is, as always, about the rewards. Few and mostly depends on luck. I don´t like that.

we have no clue, some people guess that it will be only a month, but I really I hope that any developer say something officially.

Yo can go to somewhere and suddenly something unexpected happens and you have to change your plans. It is not a contradiction.

Hello!

I have 2 questions regarding this future update.

1.- Is “The Secret of Southsun” a new story arc, as it was F&F before? Or is more like a puntual story like Tixx, halloween, the karka event…
2.- How long will it take? F&F was designed as a 4 months arc. Is SoS going to be something similar? shorter, longer…?

Thanks!

I feel like this minigame is going to be too similar to the guild challenge one.
Am I right?

The girl hidding is clearly from the consortium. And the other guards look like lion’s arc guards and they are confronting a really scared man…

When I see that picture it looks to me like the guy is innocent and the consortium has made the guards to believe that the guy deserve a punishment, and that girl is just observing how the plan is developed.

For what I understand, it will be 2 updates on may (colin said in one post " in our first may update…") and for what it was posted in reddit, I assume that the next living world experience will be in karkaland (due to the rewards showed on reddit).
I dont know if the future things will be more like lost shores or more like F&F. I just hope that it will be the second, I loved F&F and I really liked to have at least a week to enjoy the temporal content.

It is bugged. In diessa it works but in Wayfarer Foothills is bugged.

The idea was great, but only one day for each event was a failure, due to masive assistance.
I support 100% the way the F&F has been delivered: each week, each month, and you have time to experience it all and experience it with quality.
Karka’s was a complete chaos, a lot of lag and a lot of people could not enjoy.
I don´t care if the idea is great (which it was) if I can´t play it due to technical issues or time issues.

After all this months, my vote goes to Rox. Braham is a simple minded guy.
Rox is really good. Yeah, her eyes are wierd, but her personallity is great. Braham is ugly and dumb.

I like rox a lot. She is growing on me ( I even see her eyes better now )
She is funny and a great lider, with a better history than braham.

Braham, on the contrary, I don´t like him. He looks to me like the eternal secondary, behind of the real protagonists.

I loved the dungeon. The best one so far.

I liked the weapons but, in my opinion, they are too much expensive and big.
I have a silvary, ranger, but the rox’s weapons are to big for him.

This is my order from funniest to not so funny:

1.- Rush (a lot of fun and just the right difficulty)
2.- Challenge (very easy for a big guild but the mechanics are fun enough)
3.- Treck (I like explore and visit weird zones. But it is extremely easy with a guide)
4.- Bounty (the pre-search is boring and frustrating when another guild kill your npc while you are searching for others. Most npcs are strong, even for big guilds. That makes impossible to do the T3 without presearching, I mean, without getting bored and frustrated…). We have not talked about this yet, but I guess that me and my guild will stop playing these bounties once we had the puzzle unlocked.

Puzzle I haven’t try it yet.

I’m also enjoing the F&F story. Continue this path for next stories, please. And better rewards!!

I think that is great to have 5-men dungeon as an end for F&F, why not.
Now is our work to team each other with people who are equally interested as ourselfs in the history.
If you play with known people that you know that they´ll approach the dungeon in a similar way as yourself, you will have a nice experience for sure. That is what I plan to do

Hi everybody!

First of all I´m from Spain so sorry for my english ^^

I would want to introduce you the hints that I have from my spanish version of the game in relation to this “Kom-pew.. something” that the spy talks about in the last chapter of F&F.
If you didn´t obtain the hints from the spy, be awared that the following debate can be considered SPOILER

In one of the spy notes, she said that she is afraid about a “Kom-pew.. something” that it is in the molten alliance quarters…

Well… in the spanish version of the game, that mysterious thing is called “Or-de…algo”

So thinking about it, I have reached a conclusion (a little silly one, that I can´t fit completely in the game, but that makes sense to me at least):

The thing is…. a COMPUTER.
In english that “Kom-pew” sounds perfectly like Compu…ter and in spanish, computer is “ORDENADOR”, just like our hint “Or-de…”

To me the hints make sense. However, a computer in Tyria makes not XD.

What do you think about it? Any ideas? Did you figured out already?

Cheers!