Guild Wars 2

Their new standard seems to be the mini-maps of the ls. So each maps is 1/4 of a normal map. That greatly limit exploration and they try to sell it by “it is very small but there are many dynamic events !”. Seems that they are overhyping everything à la feature packs, each blog post will be a disapointment. It tought it would at least be a solid dlc, maybe it won’t even be that.

So masteries are a check list.. a glorified list of achievments.

Will you start running DLC like this each 4/6 months ?

Problem is that our toons are ghosts. We have no choice, the character system has been scrapped, they just trhow down our throats their bland storyline. We have no impact, their living world is a stale world. So no, i don’t think they will let us do a choice of that type. They don’t want our characters to have a life in their game, we watch a wannabe tv show.

And if the new map is the size of the ls map ? It means that even with 3 levels the new map is 3/4 size of a normal map.

We have a clue. They presented it. A spvp map is called “huge feature”. It tells all about the scale of this DLC.

They called a remodeled borderland or a pvp map “huge feature”. It’s arenanet scale, they call this DLC expansion.

I’ll buy the DLC if it doesn’t cost more than 10E. It’s a fair price for one new map and one new class. I can’t wait to see what will be in the expansion that everybody here talk about. Any info ?

Not in this DLC it seems, maybe for the next in 3 years.

It is a solid DLC. One like that each 6 months would make me happy. Hope the next DLC won’t take 3 another years to devellop, and that they have a team that works on a real expansion. They must did something since launch. What are they working on ?

- 3 maps, one for each modes
- One class
- One new weapon by class
- Guilds hall
- Useless masteries system outside the new map

3 years to devellop that. They really were doing nothing since launch. Such a shame.

So once we completed the new map and so acquired all the useless masteries, our characters still won’t progress, nor vertically or horizontally like usual ? Their system is tuned to last a week/a month ?

Double everything. Utilities, weapons, elites, healing. Less would be disapointing. They had near 3 years to do something with skills and did nothing. They have to catch up but I don’t know how they could do it.

It’s the new LS season. It will be as usual low quality low quantity, but they will present it in a way that we will have to pay each episode 200 gems. Connect won’t deblock it automatically.

So the next step is to disable all minis to not interfere with the 2 mins cutscene they offer us each 1.5 month on average.

Did they really put an ad and a IRL date in an IG cinematic ? Will it stays after the date is passed ?

There is near to no progress or work done since launch, so I can’t be satisfied or dissatisfied.

There was a CDI on guild halls so we won’t have it. For housing, “it’s not off the table”.

CDI = subject not being worked on or planing to be worked on. If you’d like something in GW2, pray that no CDI is made on it cause it means it won’t being develloped.

State of the game doesn’t really change year after year, near to nothing is done by anet. The lack of new skills/real maps/new class/races/quests or generally any form of involment by anet stand today and standed 2 years ago.

It is arenanet only fault if they stopped developping their game since launch. My guess is that NCSoft has unfortunately no voice in arenanet cause they are profitable.

So the camp is attacked by these vines we saw coming ? So an army is fighting in the desert for months and do nothing against it ?

Will they show us the work done since launch ? Or did they really did nothing ?

They will announce LS v3 and hype it like usual. In december 2015 we’ll view back the year to see we had 2 more mini-maps, each one the size of 1/4 of a normal map, few UI tweaks by the featureless packs and maybe a new world boss.

They are a 350 workers studio that do the same amount of work as a 30 persons team. Even the most basic ftp has way more updates than this game. The only MMO that did so little was wharammer online.

1. They stopped working on their game since launch.

You can look at the CDI to see what it isnt coming. CDI mean that they don’t work (or plan to begin to work, or think to plan it) on its subject.

The moment it starts is the moment you know that GvG will never be implemented.

Their pace maximum seems to be one new mini-map each 6 months. So we get like a new normal map each 2 years.

Nothing is coming. Nothing came in 2 years.

Arenanet stoppped working in 2012, how could they be nominate for 2014 ?

They can’t even stick with their 6 months / 4 LS episodes. We already have low quality-low quantity work ; how deep will they dig ?

You already have plenty of feedbacks and a long list of bugs (some of them 2 years old) to work on. The communication players→dev is already here, what we lack and we want is devs→players.

A studio working on it like any mmo.

This thread is so sad. Even defenders to death can only say that the devs are going to their office to get their pay. How deep will anet dig ?

Zaklex.6308:

I don’t think I need to name them either.

Name please ?

So a fan saw that the devs there are not idling like npc. Guess they removed that animation like they did in the game. Even die hard fans of arenanet hope there is an expansion being worked on cause they can’t believe how so little work has been done since launch. Guess it tells something.

I’ll play the average 30mins each 2 months anet offer me with their hard work.

szygum.2607:

The simpliest answer is always the best answer.
They aren’t annoucing anything because there is nothing to announce. Simple.

Indeed. Some (most ? ) of us have this stance. When you see gaile writing that the featureless pack and the next pvp thing are “substantial”, we know we lost them. I think they are honest, and they really think that the normal on-going qol improvment of the game is “substantial”. But that logic is flawed. They even hold the release of their work in this department for 6 months, to make us think that it is a “substantial” update called feature pack. They could patch when it is ready but they don’t. The big thing they are or were working on was collections and other tiny things, they honestly think that.

Gaile said that it is normal if projects are scrapped and return on the drawing board. Yes it is normal once, twice. But not for all projects, not everytime, not tenth time for finally scrap it entirely. That’s why nothing big is added ? Because most of the work of their 350 workers are always held back multiple time then scrapped ? If you ask, I can point you MMO that publish way more work with smaller team. I don’t think the contrary exists ; the only example I have is warhammer online.

And here is the part where I think that something, certainly most of the managers, is kittened up in arenanet. GW2 could have been the king in horizontal progression, but they fail miserably at that. They can’t even monetise their game well. They lack systems and don’t work on it or plan to add. We have no companions, housing, guild halls, mounts, skills to customise and to spend € on. Skin hunting is a thing, and most of other games have it, siding other systems ; they don’t even make the effort to make outfits normal armor parts, so they could sell more. And the xp bar at bottom continue to level again and again for nothing. There is no vertical progression, there is no horizontal progression ; there is no progression, a big flaw in a MMO.

What happened since release ? Wrong persons were promoted managers and break the dev of the game ? It seems rotten deeply in there, and I’d really like NCsoft to put his feets in.

Few last things, we now know that 2 mini-maps/year and a single questline is the maximum that the LS team can do, on top with maybe a dragon wb. And CDI is not a roadmap, it is not even a sign that they think to begin to work on the subject someday.

So gaile, what is arenanet doing ? Do they work on “substantial by arenanet standards” update ? Or do they work on update on par with the rest of MMO studios ? Some of us think that nothing middle-to-big is coming so you can’t talk about things, and looking the 2 years frame we are right. Prove us we are wrong ?

Vayne.8563:

You need to be more specific dlonie. Don’t say will we ever see the content we need to play updated or expanded. Because no one is going to know what you need to play.

People keep talking about significant updates. I think the updates, at least recently, have been significant. They’re significant to me. The updates you want to play probably wouldn’t be.

So in your request, instead of bolding a line with no detail, add the detail in the line.

Then again, ever is a very long time, so maybe you want to also put it in terms of six months or a year. I mean suppose you will see that content in five years. Anet could say yes, and they’d be within their rights to.

You need to be very specific. Which doesn’t mean you’ll get an answer.

No. Stop trying to derail the thread. We want to know what we can expect in the next 3 months / 6 months or next year, what they are working on that went for the concept phase, passed it and went to dev. Not what we want them to work for, there are millions threads about this.

The episodes 5-6-7-8 is a result of a 6 months work. For the same amount of time, blizzard make 1/4 of their expansion, bioware make a complete SWTOR’s expansion. Anet, a 350 workers company, make a mini-map and a single questline.

SpyderBite.6274:

Is this your first MMO? Please show me another game which has developers who layout their entire roadmap for the game for the player base to critique.

Planetside 2, TESO, wow, and most others i guess. Now show me another MMO where we don’t know anything about what is coming next 3 months or 6 months or year or whatever time frame. Is GW2 your first MMO ?

Gaile Gray.6029:

Alerno — Taking what you have (and everyone else has) put on the table I do wonder something. I want to ask, and hope nobody will bite my head off here.

You mention wanting to know there will be more to the game. The new and continuing episodes of the Living World count towards that, right? The fact that players know there’s a team working on new content and features, and that there are releases on a regular basis? I fully understand that may not fulfill every desire, but it does show a continuing commitment to “new stuff” for us players, wouldn’t you agree?

No.

Are you asking if a single questline each year and a mini-map each 6 months show some commitment ? How can you be this out of touch ? On the contrary, it’s scary that so little thing is done and show an alarming disengagement.

If you consider the LS this year as a so great dev of the game, it means that you didn’t work since launch (or since the 2013, or 2014) on stuff on larger scale ? It means that you have nothing great being worked on the back, big stuff and not some tiny things like collection ? So yes, if the LS is all you can do, it is not commitment by anet, it is disengagement.

You have to take the development of GW2 like a single player game : near to nothing is added since launch.

They seems to go with a new mini-map and a single questline each 6 months. How a 350 workers company produce the same work as a 10 man team is out of my reach.

Remember that here is internet. Numbers throwed here are internet numbers, you have to divide them by 5-10 to approach the truth.

Few things that bothered me :

- I don’t care about the story because I don’t remember. You took months and months to push a single questline, I can’t be involved in that. I don’t remember the characters, I don’t remember why my toon is here and what he has to do. I red that LS was like a TV serie, but what we had is one episode of this serie sliced and spread months after months. Too tiny, can’t bother.

- It’s like a TV show, so we just watch, our character has no choice to make. Why do we have to be so passive in a video game ? No decision, no involment. Race of character doesn’t matter, nor his mind tendancies that were scrapped. I could play a blind duck all the story would be the same. Nothing matters, we just watch the 20 mins/ 6 months. I remember with LS 2.2, you made my char to lead his best friends. Friends that I didn’t remember, I didn’t know what was happening, and why you throwed at me a band of friends.

- It’s already been pointed, but the dialogue box for the books is an horrible vector.

- New map seems dead when you look at normal maps. These had different stories with hearths, some races lived there, they were the testament of a living world. But the new map has nothing, and is only 1/4 the size of a normal map.

In short, the LS is anti-immersive. I don’t care cause it take too long for too few and I don’t remember, I’m not involved, and you do nothing to involve my char in it.

I wait to see the work they have done this year and the year before to judge their work. If it’s an expansion, ls was a nice filler. If the stale world is all they can do, it’s a shame and bring great sadness.

CDI are not meant to show what is being worked on, or what will be worked on, or what are the intentions of arenanet.

The best that arenanet can do is a new mini-map each 6 months, it means a new normal map each 2 years.

The most we will have is a mini-map each 6 months and a single questline. 350 workers for that..

We know that game isn’t going anywhere, no work is done on it since launch.