Guild Wars 2

Another QQ thread from a D/D thief . . . hard countered by D/P.

Man if D/P is good (and not OP) again’t D/D deal with it . . . P/D is better for 1v1 or 1vX and there is no need to create this threads to ask for nerf.

IMO the most pathetic thief threads are this . . .

am i the only one that is amazed about this stats?

How you get that much of everything!?

I mean you are a warrior and so . . . but is not that a lot? even for a warrior? even using food?

DeceiverX.8361:

Anyone who insists that any other thief weaponset is better than D/P has clearly never played the other weaponsets.

D/P is the most frustrating, easiest, face-rolliest, and overall scrubby build in the entire game. Yep, I think hambow warrior takes more skill, has more counters, and is generally more difficult to play than D/P thief. D/P blind-stealth spam is a downright insult to a lot of this game’s mechanics and makes thieves appear way stronger than they appear to be when played with other sets.

Best thing you can do is challenge them to use D/D if they think they’re good at dagger mainhand and/or just ignore them.

It is because u r a D/D player and D/P is strong againt u.

D/D is way better in outnumber fights, and is not that hard to use as u try to sell to us.

There is always some one saying cheesy this cheesy that . . . and is always the hard countered side.

Ranger is the future =P

Chicago Jack.5647:

Wolf.5816:

Then after fighting this Long Bro Warrior for 6 minutes waiting out his defy pain, stability and Berserker stance he finally fell and I was the victor. “An excellent start to this match” I thought to my self as I aquired my first kill of the game.

Only to look up and realize that they had back capped our home point and won the mid fight. Effectively demoralizing my Team Que tourney team and won the game with minimal resistance.

Long long ago, in a galaxy far far away, I once fought a guardian at our home point to steal his mace crack. Me and another squishy pushed to mid because there was a solo warrior there. I bassied up, and was able to basically stunlock the guy for about 5 seconds. While he’s running around like a chicken with his head cut off, his passive endure pain procced. “No big deal,” I said to myself, “I’ll just autoattack him to maintain poison on him and he’ll die in no time.” After about 3 seconds, his friends showed up and destroyed us all. The end.

Man thanks, thanks, thanks!

You know, the only real role for a thief, roaming, now is done. . . as someone said before, it only takes 1 second to kill a thief in a group.

6 seconds is stupidly insane.

well we will have to wait and see . . . but it i’m honestly tired of playing a game where constantly keeps nerfing the only profession i like.

I mean . . . it’s cool that ranger, engi received some buffs . . . . but why! just why the hardest profession to kill for a thief receive a significant buff against us! WHY?

07/25 Ready Up Patch notes:

Engineer:

- Utility Goggles – Analyze – this ability now 6s of revealed in addition to the vulnerability it applies.

Ranger:

- Sic’ Em this skill now applies 6s of Revealed to enemies.

Good before it was very easy to kill a engi . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . plop.

Took from “Casual Selfie” thread.

What do you think guys?

1.- The rank system was kitten. Glory farming, bye bye to the prestige of high real rank players.

2.- A whole new rank system was implemented, now you see a dragon finisher . . . bah.

3.- Worst side of SPVP (TROLLING), is a must.

4.- The biggest or one of the biggest threads of complains in the history in SPVP.

5.- The only map that directly hard punish professions with low CC.

What do you think?

The only funny part of this map IMO is how Anet decide to include it in SoloQ . . . a ranked system already bad.

why the kitten Anet didn’t do this from the beginning?

Please make this happen

I just use 180 gold purchasing rare swords looking for Zap . . . no success.

Would you share how much you need to have your precursor?

I want to know if i should try again later, i’m mainly SPVP-Roamer player and i don’t have much options to use my gold.

Thanks!

For PVP S/D
For PVE S/P

Why would you nerf it?

It is well known that is a build only good to roam . .

and who cares about roamers? . . . other potential roamers.

You will never see a D/P in a PVE, Top Tier SPVP, Top Duels.

D/P has a roll . . . hit and run . . . stop comparing apples with oranges.

And answering your queation simple. . . Anet don’t nerf it because they already know that is a build only good to kill bad players out of the zerg . . . and they want a roll for that.

McWolfy.5924:

80%of the roamers are thieves guess why

Roaming is not the same as dueling . . . know the difference plz.

O please anet plase after months and months of people complaining about skyhammer, at least give us this option.

REMOVE THE KITTEN MAP ALREADY!!

Hi all,

I just want to ask Anet. . .

REMOVE THE KITTEN SKYHAMMER FROM SOLOQ!

Thanks

Django.5923:

Hey! Skyhammer is great and you know why?

1. Its the only map where the points are the secondary objective

2. It makes engi viable

3. All unused pull, stealth, fear, stability builds\skills finnaly have a spot!

in my opinion skyhammer seperates the men from the women. All the hater just need to l2p. Stealthpull? Easy to counter. Just pick stability noob or counterpull or counterstealth or simply dodge or LOS. All l2p.

skyhammer has just such a high skillceiling that people dont see the complexity of this amazingly well designed map (come on it even has giant wurms and you can bug under the map, how kitten is that?)

so my proposal:

remove legacy of the foefire, khylo, temple and niflhel from soloqueues. They are just boring noskill maps. Let the hardcore players play those in teamqueue. Soloqueue should he all about skyhammer and the also amazingly designed map: spiritwatch. But that map deserves another thread to honor its awesomeness (big bear statue hello?)

make the single map elemination rounds of the tournament of legends on skyhammer! It would give so much skillfull play and finally some diversity!

and last but not least. Please shorten the spawn of the two bases to mid so that its easier to farm rank on my server.

hella you could even remove the capturepoints from skyhammer!!!

Remove the kitten map for the love of my holly and pure exgirlfriend!

plz plz plz pretty plz remove anet

We need a solution now for turret engi!!
We need a solution now for decap engi!!
We need a solution now for warrior stunt chain!
We need a solution now for warrior pasive healing!!
We need a solution now for warrior s/s lb condi spec!!!
We need a solution now for necros fear chain!!
We need a solution now for power minion necro!!!
We need a solution now for necro linch burst!!
We need a solution now for PU mesmer!!
We need a solution now for DPS Guardian!!
We need a solution now for Gurdians contant blocks!!!
We need a solution now for Might stack ele!!!
We need a solution now for ranger bear bow!!
We need a solution now for spirit ranger!!!

and i could go on and on and on and on . . .

You are complaining (probably for WvW since SPVP stealth is a bad thing to play) basically for a profession that is good 1v1 against new people that has is not even close to be good in what is supposes to be good in WvW . . . . zerg friend.

Man i will give the solution you seek . . . L2P.

He is a great player with thief also . . .

you know the moment i discover that the enemies in the video actually build a arrow cart and a balista . . .

. . . LOL

Of course the 3rd enemy company was help but still very cool video . . .

Before you come with OP, blablablabalbla . . . i have videos for all profession doing this kind of things . . .

I’m a thief, and i’m sick of the “NERF ALL EVERYTHING IS OP” toxic attitude that some people has in this forum.

Just enjoy the video, i liked it . . .

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Shikamaru-X-goes-engi/first#post4146297

holly kitten . . . what a nice video . . . Engi god mode . .. .

Thanks man really enjoy

LOL almost my same build!!

Aikijin such a nice guy always sharing and helping this community . . . .

and also a kitten when dueling xD . . .

Thanks keep sharing!

Beautiful . . . As an office worker i can say this a a perfect gift to relax and start a good week .

Thanks guys, GJ

. . .please if you haven’t visit . . .

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/lions-arch-lament/

Kukchi.6173 i saw you called troll to someone in the past messages . . .

I just had to click into your message history to see that . . .

. . . you are just another warrior defender that disguise as a thief . . .

Don’t you see how pathetic looks to us that a WARRIOR come and ask to nerf again the most nerfed profession in the game?

You will never see this days a high skilled player complain about thieves . . . . NEVER.

If you have problems to deal with them, go to thief forum and ask for advice, as i did when Engineers, warriors and Mesmer killed me in 1 second.

For last . . . if you keep creating this kind of threads . . toxic ones. . . . no one will take you seriously . . . i invite you to see yourself your message history . . . is kind of overwhelming.

Another powned “NERF STEALTH” thread . . . check, moving on.

Every time i’m on Skyhammer . .

Charak.9761:

Champ bags don’t have precursors in them only unique exotics

coj coj coj . . . . emmm

mompen.7952:

Hai.

There is this secret a few selected individuals know about, and I am now passing on this information to you: berserker gives you slightly more damage then valk.

But it’s up to personal preference I guess, some people have a hard time fighting against condition classes, and then valk would be nice for the added HP you get.

I use a mix of ‘serker and valk, since I find the added vitality is nice, and the decrease in damage isn’t really noticeable.

I would maybe start out crafting maybe 3 ’serker (head, gloves, boots or whatever) and use some exotic valk gear for the rest of you to see how it fares for you.

Again, this is MY opinion, and it isn’t really a recipe for what to wear, it’s more up to personal preference.

This is the best advice you will get.

i have trinkets and weapons ber and armor valk. . .

As my other friend told you . . . if you are going to use hidden killer, mixing is the way.

full berserker is for 100% burst builds . . . and IMO they are not good for WvW.

For WvW you need sustain . . . mixing is the way.

X T D.6458:

deepwinter.9015:

X T D.6458:

People are replying with oh just aoe the refuge area, its not always possible…

• Step 1: Spam 1.
• Step 2: Spam 2.
• Step 3: Spam 3.
• Step 4: Tuck, roll, cry, cry harder.

Seriously, unless you’re a Scepter+X/Staff mesmer you can spam your 1 ability without a target selected and still hit things. This isn’t WoW, foo! You don’t need a target to swing most of your abilities!

If you fail to get two downed targets by swinging blindly, oh well! See Step 4.

Please dont use this post to troll and flame, please be constructive.

HE IS BEING CONSTRUCTIVE . . . you are the one that won’t listen.

The answers we gave you are correct . . . but you are the one in a blob.

ReesesPBC.4603:

X T D is just talking about fairness and it sounds like a solid suggestion to me. If someone can use stealth to stomp it sounds reasonable that someone can get stomped while stealthed as well, but of course as long as the stomp channel began before they stealthed. That shouldn’t hinder a thief or mesmer’s current downstate either.

Under that context then you should not be able to stomp with . . .

Elementalist +
+Mist form- CD 75, invuln
Armor of Earth CD 90, stability
Obsidian Flesh CD 50, invuln
Earth’s Embrace CD 90, stability, requires trait and <50% health
Rock Solid CD 15, stability, requires attunement to earth and trait
Glyph of Storms CD 60, aoe blind, does not create a smoke field, so projectile interrupts still land normally (headshot, conc shot, etc.)

Engineer
Elixir S CD 60, invuln
Toss Elixir S CD 60, stealth/stability randomly
Elixir U CD 60, quickness
Smoke Bomb CD 25, smoke field
Self-Regulating Defense CD 90, invuln, requires trait and <25% health
Elixir X CD 120, stability, 50% chance
Flame Turret CD 30, smoke field
Guardian
Stand Your Ground CD 30, stability
Hallowed Ground CD 80, stability
Indomitable Courage CD 90, stability, requires trait

Mesmer
Distortion CD 60, distortion, requires illusions
The Prestige CD 30, stealth
Decoy CD 40, stealth
Viel CD 90, stealth
Portal Entre CD 90, teleport, way to think with portals
Mantra of Concentration CD 25, stability
Mass Invisibility CD 90, stealth
Time Warp CD 210, quickness
Desperate Decoy CD ?, stealth, requires trait and <25% health

Necromancer
Foot in the Grave CD 10, stability, requires Death Shroud and trait
Lich Form CD 180, stability
Plague CD 180, stability
Well of Darkness CD 60, aoe blind pulse, questionable (see glyph of storms)

Ranger
Rampage as One CD 120, stability
Quickening Zephyr CD 60, quickness
Zephyr’s Speed CD 20, quickness
Hide in Plain Sight CD 30, stealth, debatable

Thief
Cloak and Dagger CD 6, stealth
Blinding Powder CD 40, stealth
Shadow Refuge CD 60, stealth
Shadow Trap CD 30, stealth
Hide in Shadows CD 30, stealth
Blinding Tuft CD 45, stealth, require steal
Hidden Thief CD 45, stealth, on steal and requires trait
Instinctual Response CD 60, stealth, requires trait and >10% health lost in one hit
Black Powder CD 6, smoke field
Smoke Screen CD 30, smoke field
Critical Haste CD 30, quickness, requires trait and critical hit
Haste CD 60, quickness
Shadowstep CD 50, teleport

Warrior
Balanced Stance CD 40, stability
Dolyak Signet CD 60, stability
Last Stand CD 90, stability, requires trait and CC, goes on CD after balanced stance is used
Battle Standard CD 240, stability
Rampage CD 180, stability

HAHAHAHAHAH you actually want to nerf the only skill that actually helps allies on thieves?

You know i’m getting sick of stuff like . . .

Thieves are the only one that can stomp with no risk . . .WTKITTEN!!!

Mist form?
Elixirs?
Stability?

and a lot lot lot lot more

god . . . this forum . . . always toxic with kitten arguments from people that doens’t know a kitten.

Wolf.5816:

In SW:TOR, you have the option to see: All, Allies and Enemies in tabs (that would be nice). I also like the idea of an MVP vote option like in SW:TOR. You can’t vote for yourself, you have to vote for someone else on your team… the player then gets a bonus for the MVP placement.

Now I have never played SW:TOR but Adding in more features to let players feel more engaged or involved in each game would be fantastic.

These all could simply add mild bonuses to your PvP ranks, titles or perhaps even your Reward tracks, making unlocking these features more involving to those who play effectively.

Bonus Features for example:

-Revenge: gain a bonus for killing the player who previously killed you.
-Double Kill: gain a slight bonus for killing two players in X seconds.
-Triple Kill: gain a bonus for killing three players in X seconds.
-Massacre: gain a large bonus for killing more than three opponents in X seconds.
-Immortal: gain a bonus at the end of the match for never dying.
-Slippery: gain a bonus once your health gets below 5% and live.
-Head Hunter: gain a bonus for killing every member of the enemy team.
-Justice: gain a bonus for Killing an enemy that recently killed one of your allies.
-Vigilant:gain a bonus every X minutes for standing on a captured point.
-Persistence: gain a bonus for dying X times in X minutes.
-Pharmacist: gain a bonus for curing X conditions off allies.
-Medic: gain a bonus for healing X total health amongst your allies.
-Professional: gain a bonus for interrupting an enemies Heal Skill.

Some fun statistics to see per game would be:

-Total time spent incapacitated: total accumulated time you were unable to control your character.
-Favorite Boon: the boon that had the most upkeep on your character.
-Favorite Kill: What effect/skill from a source you control dealt the most damage.
-Favorite Death: What effect/skill more frequently caused your death.
-Supporter: Number of allies effected by boons from your source.
-Most grateful: The ally that gained the most health from a source that your control.
-Masters Reflex: Number of successful dodges.
-Toxicity: Number of healing prevented through poison from your source.

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Anet make it happen . . .

GinghamLion.3614:

Then I would feel even worse when I backstab the wrong Mesmer.

. . . such answer . . . i just have one thing to say . . .

emmmmmmmmm emmmmmmm

kishter.9578:

I prefer duel a hambow warrior or 3 turret engineer instead a thief. The stealth mechanic i have always find it stupid and broken. Im the kind of dude that finish what i started.

Stealth complaining in SPVP . . . am i missing something?

How stealth can be any stupid or broken in SPVP? . . . every this this forum is . . .

I really really hate this map . . . is incredible that it is still in the rotation.

Amazing idea . . . would make SPVP more professional.

It would be good to store this information in another instance so we could always check the numbers from previous matches . . .at least for the current login.

This is because when matches finish it automatically loads the new match and do not give time to the user to check the numbers.

Peow peow.2189:

since the new update, thiefs are so flipping OP. I literally take 2 steps in wvw or pvp and i get backstabbed for 20k. How can they still do this with the dmg reducation?

Honetly i think this game has had enough of this class

a t s e.9614:

Conclusion , all classes are OP. DAT LOGIC

No seriously,let’s talk about what you said. First hambow is OP only because of the sustain from tanky amulets and strength runes > exactly like D/D ele. So the problem isint the class but the gear.

Bunker guardian OP? Yes it is but its their class mechanic to support your team. Its like saying thieves have too much mobility. Its what they are supposed to do , you can’t take it away.

Engi condi spam not telegraphed ? The only one that is not telegraphed is incendiery powder but again what makes it OP is the Balthazar runes and not a class mechanic.

Thief too much blind? So what warrior too much stun. Gotta deal with it.

Ranger bunker builds too tanky? They are only good in 1v1 and suck at everything else, you shouldn’t be 1v1ing a bunker ranger anyway it’s a waste of time.

PU mesmer and shadow arts OP in wvw roaming? Yes they are but who cares, both of those builds are beyond terrible everywhere outside of 1v1.

MM necro OP? lol how is it OP? The AI is stupid and the necro is just a HP sponge if he is running MM.

So yea some stuff is OP in certain situations but who cares. Also celestial amulet , baltazar and strength rune nerf would fix a lot of stuff.

Pretty much this . . .

Again you are calling OP things that come with the role.

i don’t think there is a big imbalance in the game currently . . . neither OP classes.

Every single thread complaining about imbalance is a L2P issue most of the time.

I’m a thief, i hate engis . . . they melt me down . . . but i would never consider them OP or ask for nerf.

-No monthly fee
-No way to 100% purchase items that increase stats and makes you win (P2W).
-Not a must to use gem system to have top items or exclusive items. (can change gold for gems)

Boys this is a business, and IMO a noble one . . .

Why you get mad if the company tries to profit? . . . they have REAL alternatives to never use your credit card.

Domey.9804:

I once used (Like many) ruby orbs and my only speed buff was fleet shadow. That was enough for fights.
But You know the reality of roaming, Its 90% running around looking for fights, 7% chasing down some helpless zerglings and 3% fighting enemies that fight back.
So i decided some time ago that traveller runes Would be better. Yes They were.
But speed runes seem now superior because you can use more zerker/cav armor because you get a Lot of vit from runes. Traveller stats are just…almost non existent
To answer your question: if you want to be fast at roaming and kill fleeing ones, use speed incr runes.
If you want duels and zerging only, go strength or so

This . . . .

I have use Traveler, Speed and Strength.

Trust me man, for roaming the best is speed because of what he said, you can focus using more ber pieces stats due to the vit you get from them.

Traveler are nice, but since ferocity nerf they lost a lot. Better now speed, that they focus only in vit and swiftness (one of the most important boons for roaming thieves).

Strenght are great in duels, but for roaming speed is the way, the free utility slot is wonderful xD.

And the most important . . . they are cheap.

Why you don’t hide in stealth while the linch form goes?

In WvW a necromancer in linch form can destroy you, ONLY IF, you stay there to receive the hits.

Its like complaining about meteor shower from a elementalist, you have to be very kiteen to fight in the hot area.

The only time i got kill by linch form is when they caugh me with low hp and dont see it coming.

IMO engi turrets are a lot more devastating that this, and still i don’t think they are OP.

Carpboy.7145:

I made Valkyrie. Sure pure zerker is better in PVE, but i primarily play my thief in WvW anyway, and you only lose a couple %crit chance with valk over zerk which is nullified by HK. So is say ascended valk armor, ascended cav or zerker weapons, and all zerk trinkets

much this . . .

Nice video man! very well played both of you.

Thanks keep sharing!!

Again this threads, this forum is more toxic every day.

It is their roll to be good defending with the bow!!

For the love of god, put a bow ranger in open field, free candy!

I don’t play ranger, nether have a ranger character and i can say that is not even close to be OP.

This is tooooo much guys, asking to nerf every class is not healthy, you MUST start thinking in roles, not in situation circumstances.