A loss is a loss, having such a close game is nice.
Remove the connection in your mind between a “high score” and PIP gain or loss.
In the case that one team has a much higher point score, but loses, it usually means that you zerged around the map, over rotating, getting decapped.
Unless you’re mostly insta-dying to superior coordination or skill, expect to lose a PIP m8
I’m sorry that is an over simplification and insensitive to the OP’s post. I’d even go so far as to say its a hypocritical statement given your pip farm in Stronghold for a couple days.
A good game is a good game, Leagues is Leagues, and they don’t sync together at all.
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A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
This post actually follows on from this previous thread.
But thinking about it, it really is a stupid decision on ANet’s behalf given that they are the ones who created the separation in League, yet MMR says otherwise.
’It’s a ridiculous design choice by ANet, it undermines their league system.
On principle leagues says that a ruby player is not as skilled as a diamond player so therefore doesn’t deserve the higher tier until its earned. Now obviously that isn’t true with what we know. But ANet are the ones that created this silly league, its a short coming on their behalf that they can simply ignore that.
Why undermine your system by creating this grey area (your the same, but different).
The entire point of Leagues is to progress. Honestly, wouldn’t you rather have a team of ruby players that DESPERATELY want to get into diamond. Then be matched with a diamond that is currently tanking his MMR before he pushes.
When I’m in Ruby I want Ruby opponets, when Im in diamond I want diamond opponents. If your making me fight players in tiers above me then put me in that tier.’
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
It’s a ridiculous design choice by ANet, it undermines their league system.
On principle leagues says that a ruby player is not as skilled as a diamond player so therefore doesn’t deserve the higher tier until its earned. Now obviously that isn’t true with what we know. But ANet are the ones that created this silly league, its a short coming on their behalf that they can simply ignore that.
Why undermine your system by creating this grey area (your the same, but different).
The entire point of Leagues is to progress. Honestly, wouldn’t you rather have a team of ruby players that DESPERATELY want to get into diamond. Then be matched with a diamond that is currently tanking his MMR before he pushes.
When I’m in Ruby I want Ruby opponets, when Im in diamond I want diamond opponents. If your making me fight players in tiers above me then PUT ME IN THAT TIER.
Once again Anet misses the mark.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
And there seems to be a growing opinion that ANet should pull their finger out and just separate PvP and PvE skills.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
remove profession wins from daily achievement
removed it from “Year of Ascension” progression
On paper it sounds great to make other people play different professions but ANet offer no healthy leeway for players who participate in this for leagues.
Watching Leet0 play thief after turning legendary was hilarious. But honesty it was a disaster for ANet because it was a complete mockery of their system.
I hope someone does a summary of leagues when its over. Because frankly the number of laughable design choices just…… I don’t even….
Tbh, can anyone offer how this ‘marketing’ ploy helped GW2 in anyway?
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
I stoped counting how many times I was insulted just by being on thief no mater how well i am performing.
I got to say this a a REAL problem and a bi-product of meta’s that establish and why having a meta that hangs around to long is bad.
For the longest time people talked up how bad necro’s were in dungeons. Alot of the points were valid but people almost universally always discounted them at their own bereft.
You really need it in context.
At that time, would you take a necro on a speedclear for a dungeon? No ofc not. But for your average PuG group I’d rather have a good necro in full gear than some bad meta profession player.
So getting back to PvP, do high end competative teams carry around x2 thief in their groups when they want to win? No, because its not efficient. Should your average soloq team have x2 thief? Depends. Like I said before I’d rather have 2 good thiefs then 2 bad players, people just need to take a step back.
That’s why threads like this are just ridiculous.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
I’ve won games with x2 thief, but usually i ask them if one can swap out at beginning.
Still, i’d rather have 2 good thief’s then have them on a profession they’re bad at. Which is something a lot of people can’t get to, usually they get stuck on ‘but thief is bad’.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
I like that momentary pause in the middle of a big fight.
Where you wait to see if you really did stomp your opponent.
xD
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
The system also allows people to swap profession. So while there might be duplicates a good team should have players that can swap out.
In bad teams, I’d argue it doesn’t really matter what you run.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
The pip system can certainly give that impression.
Rather than follow a strict gain/lose X amout of pips that they show you. The system should be running those numbers behind the scene.
On the surface, what they show the player should be something much more straight forward, that doesn’t involve huge 2-3 pip losses.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Honestly this league has been a bit of a joke. I don’t know how this was a marketing ploy because from the ground up it’s just been a mess.
Everything from the lowly soloq player getting farmed by smurfs/MMr tankers, to ‘pro league’ bunker vs bunker yawn fests.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Oh man…I remember stuck being in T5 of sapphire for almost 5 days
Emerald tier 2
Sapphire tier 5
were my sticking points of frustration.
Ruby was ok but again things slowed down alot around tier 5
Diamond has been pretty relax actually.
However, the WEEKENDS omg.
If every ANet’s MMR seems to go full demented its on the weekends where you get the most appalling match ups.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
I won 4 games in row for 4 pips, then lost 2 games to lose 4 pips.
Gotta love that math.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Played 4 games and won got 4 pips, then played 2 games and lost 4 pips.
So I’m even-steven.
Go %$^& yourself.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
People rage quitting is not really an issue for premades, therefore not really a problem for ANet.
D/c can still happen but are probably not that frequent.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Get caught hacking in front of 100’s of viewers, guess what happens?
Not much apparently.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
What do you think the effect of the energy sigil nerf will be for necro? I’m worried about being focused after the patch, I really need that extra dodge. And 4 stat gear like Mercenary’s seems good, but results in a higher relative increase in effective hp for classes with low base hp.
I did ask Leet0 this on his stream yesterday, and overall he didn’t seem to concerned by the sigil nerf. I can’t remember if he went into your other points.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
I wasn’t there but I understand a few people have had this evil dream.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Is it just me, or does it get x10 worse on the weekend.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Old thread i know, but I’m being turned off playing my support character because of a lack of information on the fly.
As far as I know, were still not expecting any changes.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
I have to block the players on these teams and queue up around their matches
Haha, i did same thing.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Wow they farming that a few days straight now. Pips easier to get there since update I guess.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
So… getting matched up with all legendary PZ while my team was just ruby rank?
I had that exact same situation yesterday. In all honesty the changes seem more geared to reducing queue times for higher tier teams.
All they’ve done is stopped the manual smurf some people used and introduced the ‘ANet smurf’
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
They were farming it. They were in and out of champions dusk for the better part of an hour.
I popped into YourfriendMarvin stream and asked, he said it was PZ + 1 Supcutie. He admitted that he wasn’t sure why they were there but said maybe it was to farm pips.
I noticed that Supcutie was still diamond so I figured that they were helping him get to Legendary.
Just to be clear I’m not mad at them. Supcutie is an awesome guy and they were just playing the game mode. I’m upset that ANet’s MMR considered this an appropriate match up.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Yeah 1 dc and 1 guy who tried to relog from necro to mesmer and he never showed up again. Same principle.
I was curious because most people have pointed towards lower ranked soloqers getting fed to higher division teams for the sake of reducing queue times creating some egregiously bad games.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Outfits have hit a saturation point. I bought a few when they went on sale but in all honesty I haven’t really used them since. I’d say its highly unlikely that I’d buy any more, inevitably I always mix and max with armours on my toons.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Update:
Was at 2 pips till diamond, got some afkers in a row and now back at tier 5. Im giving up.
Sorry to hear that. Was it more than just afkers?
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
You do know who PZ are right? Who gives a %$#@ if it was stronghold or conquest.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Take a moment to read the other threads. Stay away from PvP, till they fix it or watch you % drop.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
People on this forum need to realize just because someone is in amber/what ever rank it doesnt actually mean thats there skill level.
It’s not really people’s fault, if ANet had a system that people had confidence in they might accept such things. But honestly ANet almost religiously create scenarios that are infuriating for anything other than a full 5 man premade on voip. So people react accordingly.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
From what I’ve seen this translates into “We don’t know what were doing”.
What a joke today’s been for match ups.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
The change to long queue times for teams went out last night
FTFY
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
The mindblowing irony here is players stick around a game because they hear about a tough achievement they set out to accomplish: hone their skills, refine tactics, and obtain the reward but other players instead of meeting the content’s bar (giving us motivation to improve which is where much of the fun comes in) they want the bar lowered to meet their skill level.
Lots of skill based weapon and armor skins need to be in the game so other players think, “I want that!” and set out and put forth the effort to earn it.
lol, or just 5 man premade ‘skill’ farm stronghold
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Anet 1 :“Okay so the players are complaining about our current matchmake system being broken, what should I do?”.
Anet 2:“No problem, let’s make it even more broken!”
Anet 1:“Right on!”
lol, pretty much.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Call me apathetic, but in all seriousness i think it’s impossible for me to be surprised by anything they do. No matter how ridiculous.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
In all seriousness i have no confidence in ANet coding ability.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Luckily you posted here, on reddit you would be getting down-voted to oblivion by now.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Link? Are you talking about patch tomorrow to address long running concerns. Match making has been a problem since League’s started, that they are only now addressing.
However today, has seen some extraordinarily bad match ups, which is new.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Love is a little strong, mad respect is more like it.
He plays PvP in probably the worst possible direction that Anet would like.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
I don’t play LoL but on the surface it’s pretty quick to pick up whats happening, to follow whats going on and even recognize good plays. Obviously their is a level of depth that you get into once you start playing/watching more but that doesn’t impact the ‘noob’ viewer.
The same can’t be said for GW2.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Thought I’d attached my game that had division imbalance from the start. It’s not as impressive as some of the others posted here, but its still poor match making that cost a pip.
EDIT: The 2 emerald’s failed to even score
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A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
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Well Guild Wars 2 GvG would have had the potential to be the best eSport ever if it existed.
The game’s too imbalanced and not designed to be watched so it could never be that successful as an eSport.
Possibly, but we’ll never know. At release the momentum behind WvW and GvG was phenomenal, it %$#@ all over PvP.
ANet has had to work hard to reverse this trend and make PvP a preferred ‘go to’ game mode over them.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
The PvP pop. isn’t large enough to support team queues
FTFY
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
The best match making conditions would be if everyone was forced to play soloq. But you need teams for #esports, and if teams are unhappy you need to accomodate them because they legitimise your Pro League.
So if queue times are bad for teams for example, things need to change (like removing soloq).
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Taste of victory against Amber shopping Legendaries
I had one game like that, and took 3 pips from it which was sweet.
But its important to point out that’s pretty rare in my experience. For everyone one you win you lose 3 others and despite your pips remaining more or less stable or perhaps even progress. Your participating in what is usually a very biased game that is over quickly with little resistance.
Overall PvP is in a pretty sad state.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
