Guild Wars 2

wads.5730:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

what server is your guild from?

he is [Commander] Solovic (Dezarys)
Over 10,000 Achievements – [Wolf Rank]

Uh ok, but what server is your guild from?JQ? BG?

what server is your guild from?

Ok good to know your guild moved to blackgate

Are you a guild that moved to blackgate?

What server are you from? why are you leaving?

Shanks.2907:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

did you stack onto a server or with your guild in the hopes of getting a better chance at the rewards? if so expect no sympathy from the forums.

also I doubt im the only one who feels this way but you sound very entitled, also you cant make anet do anything by threatening them, especially by saying you wont buy gems, also, you cant buy a legendary with gems

Why does everyone automatically assume that anyone on Blackgate transferred there before season 1 to stack for rewards? If I remember correctly, we were stomping in general long before season 1. With or without the transfers we would of won. Dare I go as far to say it would of been easier without them and their uselessness, adding only to queues and SMC outer wall repair.

Though, I’m more in favor of good rewards across all servers instead of bad loot for everyone. Tier 1s had to deal with queues, smaller servers had to deal with outnumbered. Season one was a pain in the kitten for everyone and as such, we should all be rewarded for 7 weeks invested.

But, then again, threads like this are useless and don’t help. It’s a lost cause, what did we expect with all the QQ on the forums leading up to the end.

kitten? I dont think the OP stated which server he/she is from, what in the world in wrong with you? ._. bitter git

did you stack onto a server or with your guild in the hopes of getting a better chance at the rewards? if so expect no sympathy from the forums.

also I doubt im the only one who feels this way but you sound very entitled, also you cant make anet do anything by threatening them, especially by saying you wont buy gems, also, you cant buy a legendary with gems

When the edge of the mists come out we can all play there and not in the WvW borderlands, few if any will play there, even now a proper wvwer would know that ppt is just an arbitrary number, Most people will be in Edge of the Mists and its overflows, much to the discontent on devon carver who wants server “competition”

Gilgamesh.7364:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

Hobbitz.5831:

BG players look at SoR as if it’s some monstrous blob of evil. They don’t seem to understand that the server is comprised of individual guilds and players. The few remaining active guilds on SoR have no more control over the former SoR guilds as BG does.

IRON isn’t on SoR anymore so please quit calling them SoR. If you want to blast them for giving up, go blast Gunnar’s Hold. That’s where they are.

Its not specific to Sor, look at the posters history, everytime something comes up pertaining to something even close to bg, it comes up, a poster with Sor or JQ tags, instantly blasted, I mean is this what the forums have become? the most bizarre thing, its a relatively new account, so I have no idea whether its some1 with a new account or (I hope not) a new player, utterly bizarre, normal people do not talk this way

lol this guy likes me for some reason…

I understand that you’re mad; but don’t hate the player, hate the game.

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA, what the kitten? XD

Gilgamesh.7364:

dwahvel.7356:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

Gilgamesh.7364:

XacTactX.6709:

I’m talking about three servers here,

Blackgate
Fort Aspenwood
Henge of Denravi

Although their coverage and WvW participation are in different leagues, they all won 7 rounds undefeated. Besides the first week match with BG/JQ/SoR all of the matches that these 3 servers had were blowouts, the competing servers never had a chance. The players on these servers are not to blame, they all should enjoy the rewards they earned, however I think it will be unhealthy for WvW in the long term when some servers have a monopoly on winning. I’d like to see more competitive matches in Season 2, WvW will be more fun for all of us if that happens.

And I’m from Dragonbrand, I’m not sore about anything, we never had a chance at 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

Every server has the same opportunity to get the coverage they need… HoD, BG, FA all put in work to get to where they are at right now.

Im trying to decide whether this guy is new to BG/WvW, purposely twisting these things across multiple threads because he was asigned and job or truely believes what he is saying, also the tags are interesting, PPT is still king in some peoples minds?

PPT is the only material BG trolls have. You can pretty much ignore anything this one says.

Listen, it isn’t BG’s fault that multiple guilds decided to transfer off of SoR during leagues. Playing the blame game is childish…

I really hope the implosion on your server simmers down a bit so we can still fight you in T1 for months on end.

WTF? what in the world is this guy talking about, how did this guy get to guilds transfering? ._. as soon as he saw the poster tag instantly went on and attacked? what in the world? why so churlish? what in the world is going on

dwahvel.7356:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

Gilgamesh.7364:

XacTactX.6709:

I’m talking about three servers here,

Blackgate
Fort Aspenwood
Henge of Denravi

Although their coverage and WvW participation are in different leagues, they all won 7 rounds undefeated. Besides the first week match with BG/JQ/SoR all of the matches that these 3 servers had were blowouts, the competing servers never had a chance. The players on these servers are not to blame, they all should enjoy the rewards they earned, however I think it will be unhealthy for WvW in the long term when some servers have a monopoly on winning. I’d like to see more competitive matches in Season 2, WvW will be more fun for all of us if that happens.

And I’m from Dragonbrand, I’m not sore about anything, we never had a chance at 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

Every server has the same opportunity to get the coverage they need… HoD, BG, FA all put in work to get to where they are at right now.

Im trying to decide whether this guy is new to BG/WvW, purposely twisting these things across multiple threads because he was asigned and job or truely believes what he is saying, also the tags are interesting, PPT is still king in some peoples minds?

PPT is the only material BG trolls have. You can pretty much ignore anything this one says.

no thats not what I mean, just look at the post history, very recent poster (new player? banned player with new account?) most are taunts or apologistic statements among other things, if you look at the other threads you can see im not the only one who noticed, so weird ._.

Gilgamesh.7364:

Dinks.2478:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Dayra.7405:

Gilgamesh.7364:

I personally think it’s fine how it is

Not really surprising to hear that from a BG (-joiner?).

But I think it is bad game-design if periods of low-activity dominate periods of high-activity with respect to the outcome of a match. Is a bit like in the break of the soccer-match, the captains roll 7 dices (1 per night in the match), and add that much goals to their score

When you really dominate prime-time you may reach a mean-score of 300:200:200 over some hours. But that is already rare.

But if you dominate off-time (and you do not need skill, only some more people) you easily make a score of 500:100:100 over twice as many hours.

So it is totally irrelevant how good you are in high-activity times, just be there as long as possible.

And that’s why I think coverage-war is bad and needs to be nerfed to make WvW interesting again.

And there are many good ideas in the forum on how to do that. It just needs Anet to notice and accept their flaw. Unfortunately this always takes a while, convincing them that the first match-making system was broken and lead to frozen match-ups took around 6 month as well.

Edit: Ups, yes, thanks for pointing to this mistake

BG wasn’t always the #1 server…

We came together as a community in order to get to where we are at right now. Everyone has the chance to do the same thing, it’s all a matter of how bad your server wants it.

#Believegate2013

You mean you bought guilds right? Because it looked like you wrote that wrong.

BG is where it is today because a ton of guilds were paid to go there and then a ton of guilds followed after because of anets encouragement to bandwagon to servers.

Lol, you can go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better…

What I was getting at was that you have to make your servers community attractive to guilds & you’ll get the off-hour forces that you need, gold isn’t necessary. This will take some time but be patient, it took Blackgate an entire year to get to where it’s at right now.

On that note, obviously this entire thread is a QQ post about foreign coverage which is something that any server can obtain if their server works together.

Anyone notice a growing trend of misinformation and fallicious statements being put out? I cant be the only one, posters from JQ have noticed it as well a_a its starting to feel bizarre

Reverence.6915:

Obviously, not being from FA or HoD, I can’t speak for them.

But. BG’s wins weren’t that easy. We were picked to come 3rd at the start of leagues, and were definitely seen as the underdog after losing much of our OCE/SEA coverage to JQ and SoR (though SUPR and RISE moved to greener pastures I heard?)

It’s pretty evident this week that all of BG’s commanders and regular WvWers are completely burnt out from putting their all into winning this season. Outmanned buff is appearing for me more and more often, and more often than not, it’s the particular timezone when SEA starts up that we start gaining a lot of our PPT (we haven’t really seen JQ’s SEA show up in big numbers besides TKG and MERC + militia, only seen FoO once, and SoR’s SEA is basically all militia and.. GC? or GE? I get those two mixed up).

We put all our effort into winning every week, except week 6. Sorry SoS and Mag, coverage/population differences and all…

BG was never expected to be 3rd, never ever, its always been expected to be first especially with the purchase of ZDS among other guilds ._.

GrosseVogel.8503:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

Jayne.9251:

I’d prefer the old ladder system myself. I know the RNG gave you random matchups, but the older system at least paired you up with comparable populations.

Eh, that’s just me though.

what your saying is no longer possible as there have been massive shifts in the population, as stated in places in the past people have been stacking servers, both on their own or through the incentive of gold

They can just let it play out like when the game launched, eventually everything will fall into position. I really want the old system back.

with the current levels the servers are at what would happen if we brought back the old system is that people will be disincentivised to win, as winning would mean a match up with a “stacked” server, this would happen across all tiers with the added problem of population being skewered now unlike before.

Jayne.9251:

I’d prefer the old ladder system myself. I know the RNG gave you random matchups, but the older system at least paired you up with comparable populations.

Eh, that’s just me though.

what your saying is no longer possible as there have been massive shifts in the population, as stated in places in the past people have been stacking servers, both on their own or through the incentive of gold

how in the world did you determine that the leagues were successful, and “trial for the leagues” ? ._.

also whats up with the way your talking to anet? its sounds very ______ uppy O.o

Dayra.7405:

iorlas.6721:

Best idea… don’t have season2.

Not really surprising to hear that from a BG (-joiner?).

But I think it is bad game-design if periods of low-activity dominate periods of high-activity with respect to the outcome of a match. Is a bit like in the break of the football/soccer-match, the captains roll a 20-sided dice, and add that much goals to their score

When you really dominate prime-time you may reach a mean-score of 300:200:200 over some hours. But that is already rare.

But if you dominate off-time (and you do not need skill, only some more people) you easily make a score of 500:100:100 over twice as many hours.

So it is totally irrelevant how good you are in high-activity times, just be there as long as possible.

And that’s why I think coverage-war is bad and needs to be nerfed to make WvW interesting again.

And there are many good ideas in the forum on how to do that. It just needs Anet to notice and accept their flaw. Always takes a while, convincing them that the first match-making system was broken and lead to frozen match-ups took around 6 month as well.

you might be meaning to quote the poster above this one

i DO not believe this post 1 single bit, you better not come back because your post history will never change

Peetee.9406:

You can be a part of the solution.

When Edge of the Mists comes, refuse to take part in the PPT meta. If your opponent has you severely outnumbered, do not go to any of the borderlands. Make them sit there with their +695 cap with nothing to do. Let them zerg the warg for a week while the two smaller servers enjoy even man fights in the mists.

When the Edge of the mists come out there will be no longer any reason to play the normal Borderlands, everyone will be in Edge of the mists, dont be surprised when devs like Devon Carver will hinder or slow down the release of the map in order to cling onto the idea of “competition”

Zanshin.5379:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

Its partly everyones fault, especially in NA S1, money was offered, people took it, what can you do?

It’s Anet’s fault. Period. People just play the game like they’re allowed to play it. Only Anet makes the rules.

what can anet do? theyve already raised the prices, but when your 30+ man guild is looking for a win and a server offers you 10k + gold and they take the money and move there, what can anet do? thats player free will as terrible as it sounds, heck, the guild in question isnt even a wvw guild but pve or pvx, throw in PR, Misinformation and ignorance and you have yourself what we have now in certain places.

The circumstances of moving/stacking are also a problem, you and your guild took the money, where else would you go? where can you get the money to transfer off the server, your own server will doubtly take you back and your sitting for hours in Q twidling your thumbs and Pvdooring when you get back

its supposedly “random” but it cleary favors certain servers while others draw the short stick, the extremely short stick, throw in the madness the seasons brought us like the rampant sabotage, organized 2v1s, massive population differences and guild buying, you have a example of anets attemp at “competition”. dont worry though Im sure anet knows how badly skewed things have become, they have all the statistics after all

Its partly everyones fault, especially in NA S1, money was offered, people took it, what can you do?

More whining after a mostly pve patch, A bit surprised only 2 have popped up now, maybe there will be 5 or 6 complain posts tomorrow

Nobody is joining Sor, only bg both payed and transferred on their own, TC to only a lesser extent but that was rougly before and earlier in the leagues

didnt know “transfer fees” included 10k+ gold on top of the actual fees

iEuthanasia.2306:

So you want a challenge because you’re bored of dominating on the top ranked Silver League server so you want to join the top ranked Gold League server..?

I hate to crush your hopes and your dreams, but it’s much of the same thing unless you play during NA Prime time on most all US servers. That’s really the only time that servers are for the most part relatively even and provide a challenge. And the worst news, is that as you go up in Tiers, the queue for NA Prime does as well. It’s not uncommon to spend upwards of 2 hours in queue during peak times.

well Im not gunna fault someone who wants to play under certain circumstances, whether a winning side or not, many people are relatively casual for example and dont wanna play under certain conditions, so meh, thats life

Azlaphe.5178:

well the problem im having is if im going to a higher up server its going to be black gate . I was wondering about hte lower servers in like bronze league lol whihc has a good community and hopefully better que times whith decent not overpopulated population.

Sor does not have the Q times youre thinking, all of tier 1 actually has few Qs outside of Na prime and SEA prime, Sor is the one with the lowest quees due to its population, I thought you didnt wanna join a server thats already winning?

I would suggest Sanctum of rall then since it has the organization you want but it has a perpetual underdog matchup

I assume you want an organized server, with people on its server wide comms, do you want easy guaranteed wins or do you want a challenge and a good fight?

They are short on forum mods or something we dont know

Zanthrax.6538:

Doomdesire.9365:

Why does BG always say this? JQ/SoR playing dead? We aren’t playing dead, we just don’t have the coverage you do. We still have coverage gaps. There are times when we don’t even have a commander online, nonetheless 20 people in teamspeak. We don’t even have a power house EU guild anymore. Maybe if you tried to even out the population instead of stacking we would have a more healthy T1 competition…

It’s like 70 people zerging down RIOT and when RIOT leaves the map, they ask, why is RIOT playing dead?(Sorry RIOT, had to use you guys as an example)

I want to see 1 major wvw guild from each t1 server pick a partner guild from same server but differing timezones and leave to a random low tier servers…would be awesome balance to multiple servers but it definitely won’t happen =(

Can your server pay 5k, 10k, 15k gold + transfer costs for a guild? even if its not a wvw guild but pvx? I didnt think so

More than half of this posters previous posts actually seem like decent and reliable posts, then some are a bit off putting, whats going on? random outbursts? this is partially the product of the mods being too slow or indecisive at closing toxic threads

I think what the OP tried to say sounded alot better in his head

Theres nothing you can do to stop people from moving to servers especially when those guilds are “encouraged” to move there with the promise of guild and paid transfer fees

Entitled player is entitled

Peetee.9406:

Jae.5138:

now you may say: well then why don’t you just use weapons good for spvp in spvp, and weapons good for pve in pve?

well if that’s the direction arenanet moves in, I actually wouldn’t complain. the weapon selection may become narrowed and limited, and of course combat limited. but at least then you’d have a consistent, balanced pvp and the devs would be able to solely focus on trait balance and new trait introduction.

I always assumed that’s how it’s always been.

As an Elementalist, our weapon choices are clearly designed for specific areas of the game. Staff for WvW, Scepter for PvE, Dagger for SPvP. I guess I assumed it was like that for all classes.

I have to say youre wrong that its designed that way, not only does it go against any design philosophy there are many many builds that run different main weapons for eles, not only the scepter dagger combo you normally see, but also scepter focus, supportive bunker staff and even a conjured weapon power build using staff and icebow which can wreck anyone caught in the icebows skill 5 cc

Jae.5138:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

?? I dont think the entire point you wanted to come across was all written down in your post, cuz Im feeling a disconnect somewhere, also how is hundred baldes “poorly” design and the way Lol made their champion abilities the reason their successful?

also I spend alot of time in the Lol forums both in my country and international and that was before they purged many of the trolls, and I think alooooooot of people on the forums would disagree the Lol is a great example, the amount of complaints here is nothing compared to the amounts there on an hour by hour basis. paragraphs upon paragraphs on almost every champion, remember the old tryndamere? the orignal heimer and the reaction to the turret nerf after? irelia? not to mention every new champ being basically buffed in its introduction patch and debuffed in the patch or even days after.

but here’s the thing.

tryndamere was remade as a result of feedback. so was heimerdinger.

so was evelynn, master yi, xerath, twitch, sivir, and the list goes on.

the game shouldn’t be judged by the amount of QQ on the forum but the end result. and the end result in terms of progress as an esport is quite sad

i think ANet also responded very poorly to feedback first half a year of launch. they deleted feedback threads that didn’t even say inappropriate things and ignored them. the players that wanted to go ‘pro’ were neglected and ignored. before we had elitist guilds and players streaming and putting up guides. where are they all now?

i guess what i’m getting at is that ANet has:
1. launched the game with poor pvp features and
2. didn’t incorporate feedback fast enough/ignored them completely and
3. made the game e-sport unfriendly (high rng-based combat, particles everywhere, limited game mode options, class imbalance, unmodifiable UI)

and it’s lost a ton of player base and built a bad reputation for itself. any company – not just gaming – needs to make some drastic changes in the way it operates to change the mind of its disappointed players.

big changes bring in media coverage, old players back, and keep new players engaged.

fiddling with numbers all day long does not.

you missed the point of my post, The OP was saying that Anet should follow what Lol is doing, but many many people in both the forums and the competitive teams will tell you its hardly a good example, posting something like this in the Lol forums will definitely invite flame, whether the adjustments made by the riot staff or anet to their games are purely relative.

on a side note those i’ve probably seen most of those “feedback” and “critism” topics, and although some have good apple posts within them the vast majority are well worth closing, especially when they devolve into a personal fight between two or three posters who want/believe x,y,z, throw in some trolls and memes and its a mess.

?? I dont think the entire point you wanted to come across was all written down in your post, cuz Im feeling a disconnect somewhere, also how is hundred baldes “poorly” design and the way Lol made their champion abilities the reason their successful?

also I spend alot of time in the Lol forums both in my country and international and that was before they purged many of the trolls, and I think alooooooot of people on the forums would disagree the Lol is a great example, the amount of complaints here is nothing compared to the amounts there on an hour by hour basis. paragraphs upon paragraphs on almost every champion, remember the old tryndamere? the orignal heimer and the reaction to the turret nerf after? irelia? not to mention every new champ being basically buffed in its introduction patch and debuffed in the patch or even days after.

BlueZone.4236:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

As much as I like Matt the video is hardly giving good reasons for an expansion, its also plagued by the same misconception that an expat is easily made and is required for the game to survive, the rate at which a player devours content is tremendous.

could you imagine if the flame and frost, aetherblades this patch and everything in between was rolled up into an expansion can you imagine how messy it would be? how fast that content will go? not to mention having 6 months + of pretty much no content update, then we will go the wat wow is going where people jsut wait till the next expat, oh and dont forget the whining about the game beign a grind and nothing new

An expansion would not have been done like the current living story.
The mess is because of how poorly planned everything is in the current development state. An expansion would have an actual plan instead of some whimsical thought of the day.

I don’t know how everyone else feels, but I’d rather eat the a plate of the world’s best steak for dinner and have a good lasting feeling for it than rather eating scraps of
the world’s best steak served every hour.

People keep wondering, ‘This is just filler stuff, right? The “real” content’s being made secretly in the background, right?"
It’s going to be really embarrassing for the devs when people finally realize what we’re seeing now is them working at full force, and this is actually their “meaty” content.

Were we go again with all the presumptions, assumptions and sweeping statements, its just another argument with people having their own opinion on certain things, kinda like how many people like the difficulty of the latest tower and then another side says its far too easy.

As much as I like Matt the video is hardly giving good reasons for an expansion, its also plagued by the same misconception that an expat is easily made and is required for the game to survive, the rate at which a player devours content is tremendous.

could you imagine if the flame and frost, aetherblades this patch and everything in between was rolled up into an expansion can you imagine how messy it would be? how fast that content will go? not to mention having 6 months + of pretty much no content update, then we will go the wat wow is going where people jsut wait till the next expat, oh and dont forget the whining about the game beign a grind and nothing new

how can anet reveal an expansion that doesnt exist?

thank you for being polite and constructive, anything else?

what? your post is difficult to understand.

if youre refering to the weekly rewards based on server performance its given as “bonus ranked chests”, so after the week when you rank up you get 2 chests instead of 1 til u run out of bonus chests

wtf? who necroed this thread?

there cant seriously still be pve carebear jp people over here after months and months of wvw existing, i call troll post

Peow peow.2189:

Yeah , finally uninstalled gw2 bout 10 min ago. Tired of these no skill builds , run around and gain life, run around as an engi and make condos into boons have perm swiftness vigor and mass aoe.

I could handle ghese minion necrosis but now so many Engis with aoe spams adding to the warrior and necro bullkitten class list. Good riddance to gw 2 , I may play again when there is actual balance

I hope youre not lying and really left the game, not some bizarre take back condtion, if thats the case I doubt you really unstalled the game then, also, why are you still on the forums if you left the game? ._.

this has already been answered in detail, pleaswe go to the collabirative development thread or click on the pvp developers names and read what they have said in the past

I played Dragonest Pvp, it had some ridiculous imbalances especially between certain classes,. if you wanna say gw2 pvp is bad out of spite, then just say up but please dont say Dragonests pvp is any better, do you need a link to their pvp forums? Im sure they will give you a good laugh

Im starting to think posts like these are just bait/troll posts to bring out people who themselves are also baiters/trolls

this is guild wars 2 not guild wars 1