Guild Wars 2

MrKnieves.4162:

See, here lays the problem. When I see a commander icon on WvW I see a person that loved WvW so much that wanted to spend either his time or money, or he was able to get his guild to help him get it. The end result was the same, he/she is trying to make a difference in a positive way.

But most people see it as “OMG THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!! HOW DARE HIM HAVE AN ICON AND I DONT! THE SYSTEM MUST BE BROKEN!!1!!!1!1!11”

This is not correct and is the same as making a sweeping generalisation. Someone trying to make a difference in a positive way should listen to constructive criticism and viable objectives instead of the 99.9% usual response they make about how they’re the commander. Some throw temper tantrums because a siege failed and apparently it’s everyone elses fault and they storm off the map.

Someone trying to make a positive difference shouldn’t be so incredibly arrogant that they buy an icon without any actual experience or idea of how to actually command large groups and then emo cry about how they’re never appreciated – people like this shouldn’t be put in charge of wedding invitations let alone commanding a server. I don’t think anyone has a problem with a new commander who is trying to learn properly.

Some people buy the icon simply because they want to be seen on the map. We have one ‘commander’ on our server who apparently commands the JP only and argues with other commanders when asked to switch off his icon. THis is not making a difference, this is someone playing the fool.

We have a commander on EB who shows up and generally gets wiped every objective he goes to, in fact, all of last week, if I were on an opposing server, I could have marked his movements like clockwork – the exact same objectives over and over again, and when it fails, hey lets go back because it wasn’t as much fun wiping 5 or 6 times already. Then the guy throws a massive emo fit about how he’s not appreciated if anyone says anything about it. No, after several months of the same absolutely poor commanding, it’s not appreciated and this person should learn from someone who actually can command. Again, this is not someone making a positive difference, it’s someone arrogantly locked in a stubborn mindset and refuses to change.

Or there’s our self-proclaimed ‘monarchy’ who will exclusively command from behind walls never venturing out to the battlefield, because you know, they’re too good for that and might die. This person has also watched me solo home supply camps, then just trotted in for the claim.

We have RP commanders who will come on the map ONLY to run their RP event which usually consists of putting up ridiculous amounts of siege at supply camps (12 flame rams, 6 ACs, 17 Alpha’s and 5 ballistas I counted at freaking RQ as one example – the Alpha’s ended up getting stolen by a group and actually put to some use). They will -never- respond to people actually asking for their help on keeps and towers because their event is oh-so important. They also have a knack for losing their chosen objectives at breakneck speeds. It’s almost comical how these particular RPers don’t seem to want to RP as the heroes and actually do something useful instead of flat out refusal.

100g for the icon was a very silly idea, paying money shows absolutely nothing other than you’ve made 100g, it doesn’t speak about any Wv3 experience whatsoever, not any ability to lead or understand simple tactics.

Sounds like your problem including your example has more to do with speed hacking, what does this have to do with thieves? Because you think they are hacking then it must be happening?

There are a lot of things that a Thief can use as a gap closer or distance maker, you can heartseeker in stealth for example to create a great amount of distance between you and the group you want to evade without actually breaking stealth (as long as you don’t hit anything), shadowstep carries a fair distance as a teleport/return move.

Without any kind of actual proof and just you words, this just comes over as just another complaint without substance.

Andile.2963:

I was wondering the same as the OP but thinking of the lack of berserker’s.

You’re trolling right? So far, for every slot ascended has been made for, there is a berzerker option available – Red Ring of Death, Crystaline Band, do you even know what you’re talking about?

There’s no Knights option, no Carrion option, no Rampagers, no option for the healers, yet it caters heavily to the crit/burst builds without any stat compromise to their build.

I was also disappointed at the lack of Carrion option (Power, Vit, Condition) in the ascended rings and backpacks when they were released. I was even more disappointed when the Amulets were announced in 30 variations “to suit every kind of player” and yet several are exactly the same and still no Carrion option. I notice it seems to favour the burst builds /sigh.

Midius.6501:

WvW is already a gold sink for every commander and other raidleaders.

If you patch out the JPs the costs of siege weapons would explode.

greetz

lol what? How would the price of siege change in any way when the JP is removed? You do know you can also buy siege with badges right? Those very same badges that are easily obtained if you actually contribute to Wv3 instead of insisting on getting freebies from a chest.

Not to mention half the people whining about campers or begging for help in the JP’s sole argument is about how they need those badges for a legendary that they’re nowhere near obtaining and they have absolutely no intention of contributing.

There are many people on my server who have purchased literally hundreds of pieces of siege soley with badges. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect other players to actually put in some effort to get theirs beyond running past a few campers so they can reach a mesmer on the other side – heck, 90% of these people have never even completed the EB JP the proper way! By all means go to the JP, but don’t cry about it in team chat when it’s not the cakewalk you wanted it to be.

As for the campers, they can stay there for all I care, it’s less people on the opposing team being useful for them too.

I’ve always though that there needs to be a lot more incentive for players who spend most of their time (or devote a large chunk of it – as many on my server do) to sitting in a tower or a keep firing trebs for hours on end, giving them no reward is a little unfair when a keep is taken because of their wall breach. I really don’t think they should have to leave the treb and hot foot it to whatever their target was in order to get any credit for their efforts. IMO, this is a big oversight.

Caedmon.6798:

You realize there is usually resistance inside a tower ? So your argument about the guy in the red circle is probably flawed,and eventhough he may had not much to do atleast he came to take the tower and assist in backup incase there is any..

In a lot of cases, this simply isn’t true. I can’t speak for every server, but I’ve lost count of the number of keeps/towers we’ve taken with zero resistance becauase of the opposing teams zerg rush being a karma train and leaving anything captured completely undefended.

I agree with this, it would make having the guards actually valuable rather than a minor nuisance for the Dolyak attacker, guards aren’t even remotely a problem for anyone.

Jaxon.5392:

Golems are already a stretch for me in breaking the whole fantasy element. Let’s keep tank, places, helicopters, rocket launchers, and biochemical warfare outta here

er.. wha? Golems are a commonplace piece of Asura tech, how does this not fit in with the Guild Wars world?

er.. wha? Golems are a commonplace piece of Asura tech, how does this not fit in with the Guild Wars world?Secondly, Charr tanks can be found in the Black Citadel as well as Fireheart Rise (and I’m sure other Charr areas I have overlooked), so how would these not fit either? I’m not saying they should be introduced, but it’s a bit silly to say that actual game elements aren’t fitting.

Knowledge of strategy and Wv3 mechanics > Any class.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

I don’t think anyone ever explained why TC are nicknamed “Zombie coast”

Am I missing something obvious?

I think it was Blackgate that first started calling us Zombie Coast and that was because no matter what, we just keep coming back over and again like zombies and just wouldn’t break.

covenn.7165:

Static.9841:

Did I miss something, did badges suddenly become important? Some of us are working on our ultimate dominator titles, HUGE thanks to TW for all the help

To everyone else, great fights tonight, I’m enjoying this match up tremendously, very close the whole way so far, will be very interesting to see how coverage is once the weekend is over. Keep up the good fights!

I bet I have a higher rate of return and get there far faster.

LOL I bet I could care less about a non-existant competition with someone who knows nothing about my kill numbers and yet still beating their chest over it

Blip. Scale. Not registering

Also, update!

MikeFerguson.8921:

Kill/Deaths ratio is something we would like to avoid having. We don’t want people changing the way they play because they would rather protect their KDR instead of helping their allies in the game. We want people playing and fighting, not worrying about deaths impacting their stats.

Good, this would be a disaster, we’ve seen already in other games how players can become -very- precious over their KDR to the point where they won’t lift a finger to help if it means their death and drop in their online ego, the funny thing is, because of the way people decide to turn tail, it’s not even an accurate portrayal of a players skill.

I also don’t agree that repair bills are anywhere remotely like KDR and if you’re so worried about a repair bill that you’ll hesitate to help in Wv3, you need to leave until you can pony up the few silver it will cost at a time because this is a really bad excuse.

Matt Witter.6982:

This is definitely a bug. I’ll see about leaving the rally points disabled for a few extra seconds after the event has completed. That way it just stays disabled if the event starts back up.

Please, please for the love of God, NEVER do this. Whether intended or not, the ability to be able to waypoint between defence events can be the difference between being able to hold a keep or just having no chance at all, it also doesn’t give anyone an unfair advantage and can lead to some clutch moments in defence.

It also makes buying a waypoint utterly pointless when a single person has the ability to keep it under permanent lockdown. Mark my words, if you impliment this, you’ll lose a lot of player interest and grant a severely negative impact upon Wv3.

Did I miss something, did badges suddenly become important? Some of us are working on our ultimate dominator titles, HUGE thanks to TW for all the help

To everyone else, great fights tonight, I’m enjoying this match up tremendously, very close the whole way so far, will be very interesting to see how coverage is once the weekend is over. Keep up the good fights!

Kerithlan.1659:

Coldviper.6794:

Whats that TC? You’re going to golem rush our garrison when we only have 10 people on? Oh… how cute, you gotta get some combat skills before you think you can just seige your way to victory silly guys.

You know nothing about our server — Golem God be praised!

Testify!

As if there are rules of engagement in this game lol.

urzen.7096:

I kind of want TC to win so that SOR can have a different color and spot in EB. Is that wrong?

I feel you. When we moved up to T2, you have no idea how happy I was to be red, simply so that we started in a different position than green!

Anyone here from the ABSTRACT [BAWF] Guild? I just want to know why it is you guys keep jumping servers, I saw you in the last couple months playing for Yaks Bend, Then CD and now Blackgate…..

orchid.4726:

Lets ban food too, its something anybody can get, usable in wvw and give clear advantage.
Actually, lets make all players lvl 1, same class, no gear, flat map without anything on it.

You joke, but I often wonder if this is what’s in people’s heads when they find absolutely anything to complain about and call OP just because they’ve been hit with it.

Even if it was a completely level playing field, someone would find something to call an exploit or OP.

Adaneshade.2409:

Plus, I disagree 100% with the unbalanced. Most people just fail at PvP. If I can kill a level 80 P/D thief on a level 14 melee ranger in 1v1 (strongest vs what ppl argue to be weakest 1v1 classes) then, yes, it is indeed a skill problem.

LOL that’s definitely a skill problem!

Erostrate.4326:

Static.9841:

My thoughts precisely And if they want to kitten me out for not helping, I could care less, I’m not there to save people’s kitten from fights they started and couldn’t finish.

Who said you team mate started this “duel” ?
I’m a guardian spe crowd control. All my skills are set for mass PvP, WvW.. I have at least the heal zone, sanctuary, wall of reflection, a staff and a hammer.

So when an elementalist or a thief spe 1v1 jump on me, I can’t fight. It’s not a duel, it’s a kitten So I use my skills to flee to some mates or keep. I expect allies to help me, as I help them during mass fights.
It’s a WvW map. So if I see an ally fighting, I’ll help him, whatever the reasons.. But if he says me explicitly “don’t interfere” !
I’ve got a necromancer too, don’t have the full exo stuff yet. All thiefs 80, full exo, destroy me in 1v1. I expect allies to help me.

WvW is not balanced for 1v1.. Go to sPvP if you want to. Of course, there, your ego will be hurted. You’ll not have your stuff, level, culling, class unbalance or/and 1v1 skill’s set advantage. You’ll have to play ONLY with your skill..

I love how people like to make presumptions and then become defensive over it. Of course it’s not always a duel, you realise this thread is about when a duel is happening right? If it’s a straight one on one out in the field with no obvious sign that it’s a duel, do you think I’m just going to run off and leave them to it? Please, have some sense before trying to denounce what I do when a DUEL is happening.

Do you realise how duels work? Do you think people just suddenly decide to duke it out on a wide open field where anyone can just swing by? It’s not difficult to tell when a duel is happening and when a standard fight is happening, and in the latter case, I’m all over that – mess with my team mates and you die.

I agreed with the part I emboldened, this is in regards to a duel, I do not agree with his idea about any 1v1, but in a duel I certainly do. That’s not ego, that’s showing respect for two players who want to have a 1v1, I’m sorry you clearly cannot understand this.

Where did I say that WvW was a good place for it? In fact I also stated that not everyone will have the same attitude to 1v1 in WvW. Whether sPvP is the better ground for it or not, people are going to duel in WvW anyway and why not? You can find highly skilled players in WvW that you won’t see in sPvP, there are also cross server guilds dedicated to dueling players in WvW – this again is not about ego, it’s about skilled players having fun and enjoyable fights and learning a thing or two from each other. Please take your knee-jerk reactions elsewhere.

And you do know that not all classes are equally balanced against all other classes in all 1V1 situations anyway, right? Apparently you don’t.

Then maybe they shouldn’t have chosen to duel?

Adaneshade.2409:

This, but I take it one step beyond. If i see any 1v1, duel or not, I don’t interfere. If the player on my team isn’t good enough to beat the enemy, then they simply deserve to lose and learn from mistakes. If we step in and rescue the people who can’t stand on their own, how will they ever learn to?

My thoughts precisely And if they want to kitten me out for not helping, I could care less, I’m not there to save people’s kitten from fights they started and couldn’t finish.

1) Remove the cap on the amount of players that siege can actually hit (5? what?)
2) Add more interesting siege weapons – give me some kitten siege towers!
3) Give the server system more diversity, I don’t know, maybe a league table hybrid instead of having to fight the same people for weeks on end – this works in all competitive sports, I don’t see how it can’t work here.
4 – sorry, I’m having a 4 ok!) Change the commander system. Quite frankly I’m sick of seeing crappy commanders with no experience and nothing but bad attitudes and bad decisions just because they have 100g or their guild donated it. Commander icons really need to be given in exchange for WvW experience, not by throwing money at it.

I agree with some of the ideas also to cease bandwagoning, maybe make it so that you can no longer transfer to T1 & T2 servers, this would stop a lot of tag-along guilds from bouncing to whoever is in the top rankings without actually earning their spot at any point.

In WvW, you can’t expect people to have the same respectful attitude as you do during duels, some people will also wander by and just see the enemy first and attack like they normally would.

I would also like to point out that there doesn’t necessarily have to be a victor to have a great duel, I found that last night against an SoR thief – we were going at it for the best part of 20-25 minutes, in the end, we both saluted/bowed and went our seperate ways. We had some interruptions, but I was glad that the guy was able to always escape them laughably easily and come straight back to what became our staging area. During this, we had a spectator who had the sense to ask me if I was dueling and so he didn’t get involved – unfortunately that can’t be said for everyone who came by.

If I see a duel, I won’t get involved whatsoever, if anyone else decides to jump in, I’ll go for them first and then pull back if the duel is still in session after said interruption. If the player on my team is downed, I still will do nothing – I find it in rather poor taste to watch a duel and then throw away that sign of respect by just ganking them after downing the player on my own team, if you’re going to just do that, then there’s very little point allowing the duel to continue if you’re just going to steal their kill right at the end – that’s not showing respect for the duel.

tkalamba.2541:

Yes, but you can still achieve that by hitting 1st place, their points are just as good as 2nds.

We’re aware of that, but we’re not going to keep smashing our faces into a wall before we realise we need to take a different approach and change tactics. We’ve worked our way up to T2 and seen what happens when our opponents decide to cut out 2nd place and solidly hit 1st place (us) and just fall back on points even more because of pure stubborness. We try to not only learn from our mistakes but those of others where we can.

We don’t like to back away from fights, nor do we like ignoring one side in favour of the other, but when the same plan isn’t working for 2 weeks, we need to modify our objectives in order to be contenders (at least for second place). If we focus on one side, we’re not about to turn a blind eye to the other.

Doomdesire.9365:

Static.9841:

Whoever the SoR thief was that dueled me NW of Mendon near the 2 griffons, you sir, are awesome! I was the [UNSN] Sylvari thief. It was a real shame that we kept getting interrupted forcing you to have to back away, I was glad every time you came back because that was some really fun dueling – and my god, how long were we at it? lol, it’s just a shame that we couldn’t really continue to a conclusion because of interruptions, but I salute you, I hope we can do it again.

Hahaha! That was me! I think we were at it for at least 20 minutes before we both gave up. It was way too tiring having to press all those buttons o.O

Hah! wasn’t it though! When the Engi and I think Mesmer? turned up and took a crack at you, I thought I’d show some sportsmanship and stand back instead of going for the cheap shot (as I see it, they interrupted us and were therefore asking for it!), after that I think we both mentally decided to call it a day. Thanks for the bow

Whoever the SoR thief was that dueled me NW of Mendon near the 2 griffons, you sir, are awesome! I was the [UNSN] Sylvari thief. It was a real shame that we kept getting interrupted forcing you to have to back away, I was glad every time you came back because that was some really fun dueling – and my god, how long were we at it? lol, it’s just a shame that we couldn’t really continue to a conclusion because of interruptions, but I salute you, I hope we can do it again.

I’m having the same issues as the OP for about the same length of time, I’ve had absolutely zero response to any tickets I’ve made about this. I’ve had to make another one today simply because the problem is getting worse and I can communicate with nobody. My girlfriend has the game, plays in the same room from the same router, no problem whatsoever.

As the OP says, this is killing my enjoyment of the game when I cannot even talk to my own friends or organise a party/dungeon with them because I can’t see or respond to anything.

I’ve tried port forwarding, disabling firewalls, antivirus, DNS flushing, sacrificing live chickens and yet nothing seems to work. Some official help would be amazing instead of just completely ignoring problems.

euphoria.2495:

It’s always been possible to list legendaries, it’s just that nobody has listed any until now.

Are you talking from experience? I made an Incinerator before the Wintersday patch, for a laugh I had a look to see if I could list it on the TP even though I had no intention of doing so. It did not show up in my sell list.

I don’t see why it’s a problem to be able to sell them though or how it affects the OP or anyone else, if someone is silly enough to pay that much for a legendary then they should be laughed at, you can make several legendaries for the 9.8k list price.

No, you can do it on a different character, the gifts are account bound.

Lorana.2468:

Twilight is only worth roughly 1050g last i checked.

if you bought everything that could be bought.
minimum cost of any legendary is 120g for the 2 gifts/icy runestones.
funny enough items like Infinite Light are worth more than any legendary because of the lodestone price.

This is misinformation. Minimum cost is NOT 120g, unless somehow it’s now free to level 2 crafts that require NPC bought materials. It’s also the silliest argument to say this would ever be done by anyone, not to mention that everything you do for your leg is costing you money as well as making you money – buying gathering mats, repair bills, travel, consumables. Please stop clinging to a false argument based on what some of you are using as a far fetched (and incorrect) technicality.

fellyn.5083:

The funny thing is for 9500g you could buy all the materials to make about 9 different legendaries. Including Eternity.

This is why it’s so silly that it’s been listed for so much and why it’s quite funny how some people in the thread still said they’d buy it. This is for the ultra lazy or someone that somehow has so much gold it just doesn’t matter any more. I’m just surprised that someone would actually throw that much gold away on a list fee for an unrealistically high sell price.

ykyk.2740:

I was on EB and was wondering what’s the deal because Hills WP was uncontested, and then barely 2 minutes later we lost the keep.

I have a feeling we’re going to be seeing a lot more of this, there are videos circulating that show exactly how to do it, a certain famous thief has made one himself. This is not good for the game and really needs to be fixed so that no side can take advantage.

Bsquared.3421:

Static.9841

Don’t agree with this at all, the second the Ele misses their opener (yeah some of us understand what dodging is), they’ll try churning earth, and when that fails, it’s run away time for the Ele until they can do it again. Ele’s are great at running away.

A good ele will not mindlessly go into Churning Earth simply because they missed their RTL opener (due to a dodge). Hell, a good ele might not even use RTL as the opener! I try to steer clear of Churning Earth when fighting a D/D thief cause it’s basically inviting a CnD/backstab combo (since i’m standing perfectly still for almost 4 seconds). ALthough sometimes it’s fun to bait them into that combo by starting the CE channel, then switching to air and putting up lightning shield. They’ll stun themselves on it and then be a sitting duck for my furied churning earth. This is a dangerous proposition however.

And they have tons of AOE to hit the theif when stealthed. I don’t have any trouble whatsoever with most thieves on my ele, save P/D thieves and those can be handled sometimes as well.

I hate to tarnish everyone with the same brush, it’s just 99.9% of Ele’s I fight in WvW seem to follow some kind of flowchart.

cannedflame.3597:

Haldunius.7864:

cannedflame.3597:

If he’s from TC, then why is he whining? This confuses me. We’ve been ahead all week. :/

He’s not whining. He’s calling out some of his own server for whining about PvP happening in a PvP zone.

- Edited for speling

Reread his last statement.

“What’s even more disappointing is that it apparently takes a dead -ENEMY Dolyak to make TC clean all the maps…”

I’m sorry, sarcasm is so difficult to convey in text…. I think the backlash over a Dolyak is hilarious.

We’re winning, I have no need to whine about anything.

To the CD male human Thief Commander I just obliterated twice outside Astral on FABL, thanks for coming back a second time after you Alt F4’d the first time I got you down. I realise you thought you were safe the second time when you ran towards 2 allies fighting the Dolyak leaving the supply camp, I was happy to disappoint you and collect my badges from your staked corpse before dealing with them.

RE: Dolyak event.

Honestly, how did nobody see this coming? Even if I had been part of this event or any desire to be, there is absolutely no way I would have turned up unarmed and trussed up like a turkey on thanksgiving, nor would I have stopped to ask questiont he second anyone opened fire. The mistake made by the participants is in unequiping your weapons and having the expectation that because some of you agreed to some sort of ceasefire, the rest of all servers have too.

Essentially, you are making a mountain out of something that happened in a PvP area where all is fair. Hold up hands anyone who was naive enough to think – even in the back of your mind – that someone wouldn’t have crashed the party. This to me is no different to people getting upset about getting killed in the JP just because you waved at someone.

It was a nice idea if you could have pulled it off, however, people need to stop acting like the world has come crashing down just because an event failed, it’s rather childish to perpetuate it even further.

What’s even more disappointing is that it apparently takes a dead -ENEMY Dolyak to make TC clean all the maps…

Goobaaa.8241:

Just get rid of stealth all together on every class

Do this and you will effectively destroy thief. This is not a good suggestion.

Bsquared.3421:

Stealth doesn’t last longer because of culling (that’s a zerg not showing up), they last longer because of rendering.

This. Go fight a mob in PVE that uses stealth, it suffers the same rendering problem.

Bsquared.3421:

StormWolf.7645:

To be fair, the answer to Thieves has always been Guardians. I may not always kill Thieves in 1v1, but that’s because the ones I don’t kill run away.

D/D Ele’s also eat them for breakfast.

Don’t agree with this at all, the second the Ele misses their opener (yeah some of us understand what dodging is), they’ll try churning earth, and when that fails, it’s run away time for the Ele until they can do it again. Ele’s are great at running away.

oZii.2864:

If you have it off hand you get all the effects but you don’t get the flame aura when you switch to it everything else is there. When you throw it there is a different sound its really cool.

Not only this, but on thrown item steal animations and on dancing dagger, you actually throw the Incinerator which is just awesome.

I made mine little under two weeks ago and I am incredibly happy with it, definitely the best choice I made.

Possibly the same person who decided that Quip be a clown gun with the worst sound effects known to man.

Whilst not part of the set, Chaos Gun shares the same skin as Ilya and Lyss.
I haven’t seen a dagger that looks like it belongs with that set of skins, in fact, aside from the Incinerator, the only dagger I’ve seen with ‘glowing’ kind of effects are the Corrupted Shards, or at a pinch the Ascalonian daggers at night.

Gladiat.6278:

Strang.8170:

Nope, stealth doesn´t break unless you yourself break it, period.

You can be damaged when in stealth, but they don´t see you.

Strange. I’ve been forced out of it a few times but it was only from Guardians. Ah well, thanks for the tidbit.

You must be talking about shadow refuge, whereby you have to stay within the circle until it fades or you will lose stealth the second you break it. Guardians and Mesmers have the ability to push you out of it, a Warrior or Necro can also fear you out of it. This is the only time stealth can be broken for a thief.

/sigh

Bind a key for ‘closest enemy’. Problem solved.

So what you’re saying, is that there ARE other replacements then….

Are you seriously saying it’s difficult to get the WvW rings? People are moaning that the items would be better if they were obtained with tokens, here’s an example of where an equivalent is. I still don’t see the problem beyond crying because someone is making money that you are not.

Hekatombaion.4320:

If you want the parade to not fall apart you’ll have two mobs of players that can smack around any thieves that try to harm the yak, and the players with aoe heals can do quite a bit to protect the yak. There are also some stealth options to keep the yak out of harm’s way.

You need to not say things like this, it’s very difficult for me not to respond with “challenge accepted!” when everyone else is being so diplomatic! :p

zencow.3651:

Static.9841:

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1) True, but the fact that the goldmine is present because these recipes exists in their current fashion is dumb.
2) What I am aiming for, devaluing these recipes. The RNG component is so enormous over the cheap to obtain jewellering component that the latter doesn’t even matter. Take your crafting is useless arguements elsewhere.
3) Flipping is ‘fair’ since the only barrier of entry is your own wealth.
4) Mystic toileting for precursors suck and ANet’s trying to amend this with their ‘scavenger hunt’ ideas. I paid a massive sum for my The Legend yet I find this a great idea as this makes their game better overall.
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This is just your selfishness because someone has something you don’t. Your problem and everyone elses who are crying about it is because someone is making money from something you are not because they were fortunate to get a drop you didn’t. That is the bottom line.

You don’t want to talk about crafting because you have absolutely no reasonable argument, most likely because – as you say – you want to devalue recipes, tell me how that’s fair on crafters?

Mostly, who made you decide what was fair and what wasn’t? Because you don’t like it that’s not fair and that’s your perception. Your version of fair sounds a lot like entitlement still.

DaveGan.8065:

Unlike the bifrost, these rings would have no statistical replacement and be extremely subject to (short to medium term) market manipulation.

Have you actually seen any of the trinkets in question? they are ALL the same stats as any other exotic trinket of that type (eg carrion stats) with the exception that they have no upgrade installed in them. Tell me more about how there is no statistical replacement….

Field Marshal.7946:

Well that sucks. Now you also cannot sell it since it is soulbound.

Not sure if…. A Legendary is account bound, it cannot be sold.

SharedProphet.9324:

I guess if you have a char you do like who uses a sword, you could transmute its skin onto another sword for them…

You can’t transmute a soulbound item for a different character.

To the OP, is it just the character or the class you don’t like? If the former, you could always just get one of the makeover kits and change your appearance. I do sometimes wish that the Leg was account bound instead of Soulbound, would be awesome if my Ele could use it too!

If you want to blame someone, blame the people dumb enough to pay so much money for a piece of jewellery with no better stats than what is currently available, simply because it’s different. Having ownership of a recipe doesn’t equal a goldmine, the goldmine are the suckers who actually pay money for them.

People are just being salty because they don’t have a recipe that makes them the same amount of money. You all realise that if the recipe were so widely available it would cease to have the value it does now, so there would be zero sharing of the wealth here, not to mention why should anyone bother buying crafted Oric jewellery any more when they can all just buy a recipe with dungeon tokens and then craft their own sets, once again devaluing crafting as any means of money making.

All I’m reading is a lot of crying about why should person X have more than me or get more money faster than me? How about when people play the trading post? Shall we nerf that after kicking and screaming? How about when someone dumps so much gold into the mystic forge to find one of the speciality weapons, the recipe gets immediately announced on the website so that guy can’t make any money out of what they put in? Yeah, that all sounds fair to me.

Wizardauz.3761:

Legendary Items will always be Top Tier.

Finished my Sunrise this weekend. Never have to worry ever again

This, I finished my Incinerator last week, now I don’t have to worry about upgrading 2 weapons each time they decide to make a new progression.

Other than that, the reason; you might reach a point where you have what you want for your main and maybe your alts (in my case it was my main) and wonder what there is to spend money on any more – not to mean, “Oh my look how much money I have”, I don’t and I certainly didn’t have a lot at the time. But I came to the conclusion that the only real thing left to persue was either one of the special weapons (ie in the league of Foefire’s Essence, Volcanus, etc) or a Legendary.

Having looked at most of the skins available I decided I wanted an Incinerator because nothing really came close to it and I personally think Quip is absolutely god-awful, which is a shame becuase pistol would have been my go-to choice – I also have no idea how you can get a clown gun out of something as awesome looking as the Chaos Gun!

It’s not necessary at all to get one, if you don’t like any of the skins or don’t like any of them for your main, you can always spend your money (big or small) on a skin you DO like and transmute it along the way as upgrades get introduced. However, I don’t regret it, it may only be a skin, but it will always upgrade and damn if I don’t just love this thing – it also changes certain attack animations, for example, when I use a thrown steal item or use dancing dagger, instead of the regular animation, I now throw my incinerator at the enemy! What can I say, I’m a sucker for these things!

Malicious.6742:

Downed team mates spamming #1 when I stealth them to res…

Oh man, a thousand times this. Some people just never learn. I’ve almost been killed by so many people because they’re too dump to stop attacking an invader or pvp opponent. I’ve now made it a rule not to to attempt to save anyone who is too stupid not to take the stealth and stop attacking.

Wow, really? Because someone found something you didn’t, it’s really unfair? This is just massive entitlement. Go out and grind dungeons if you want it so badly. Do you make forum posts every time a precursor gets sold on the TP because they had the RNG fortune that you didn’t?

I don’t get your problem or how exploration is ruined. Just because those who have gone before you have discovered it, still doesn’t mean you have, it’s all still going to be new to you including where you discover it because you haven’t been there before.

Auesis.7301:

You can control when to use Hidden Thief’s effects, so I disagree with that. Heartily agree with Instinctual Response. You also forgot Last Refuge (5 Shadow Arts). That needs to be exempt from Revealed as well. It’s more often than not the reason I die.

I agree with this too, the amount of times I’ve bought it because I’ve hit C&D and Last Refuge kicks in and I see that awesome “immune” sign.

Steal I don’t agree with, you can control when to use that, Last Refuge is completely beyond your control and nobody wants to hang around and see if it kicks in instead of using a stealth ability that should have gotten you out of direct trouble.

I’m not really going to QQ too hard about either, it’s not like we have it too bad.

I have an incinerator and I WvW with it. The enemy are unable to see any lava trails while I am stealthed, I have -never- been followed or had anyone directly home in on me or otherwise – those on my team however, can still see the lava even when stealthed, which lets be honest, doesn’t matter.

I’m told the enemy can see my lava trails when I am not using stealth, if they can, this hasn’t once been a single disadvantage to me.