Guild Wars 2

Henrik.7560:

Great… we stuck with blackgate again even though they are thrashing us, and we also have to put up with bandwaggonners kaineng.

You should transfer. There are alot of servers that will admire your determination.

FA can have Snookie next time around.

Why can’t we have Paris Hilton?

Looks like all the fair weathers we lost to Sor last week are coming back lol. How’d they do while they were gone?

ower.9143:

JaredKincade.9761:

ower.9143:

Zoel.9154:

nice you guys hold a parade then gank FA en mass when they show up

CLEARLY you aren’t mad anymore

e: how about a refund of my box of fun as a spirit of GOOD WILL?

let’s see, 4pm PST. TC all blue, FA 80% blue, BG 80% green only pushing Red, EB evenly split between green and blue. Yeah clearly they’re not mad or working together.

Looks like an hour after no rating reset announced and we get our first real 2v1 qq.

Well, we almost made it.

Yeah, ok kiddo. Have the SS to show it and EB at this point is still evenly split. Guess it was just a coincidence. Guess TC is happy being BG’s kitten and playing for 2nd.

That argument has alot of merit. Lets discuss it in next weeks matchup!

The reset was canceled.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Was SoR really ticking at 0 at one point lol? I don’t get where those supposed 1500 oceanic’s that transferred over are? To be honest I haven’t seen one of those guilds running with any sort of numbers this week and I am up at all hours of the night.

We saw them!

Personally, I can’t for the life of me understand why there are EU servers and NA servers, if wvw is going to be 24 hrs anyways. If its that huge of a deal, simply turn the 3 bottom tier servers into the new “Oceanic” timezone servers and offer anyone who wants them free transfers there for the next few weeks. The system as it is creates the “perception” of inbalance, burns out competitive people, and builds quite a bit more animosity than needs exist.

That being said, I’m not that bothered with the system as it is because I’m not that emotionally invested in wvw, but it would certainly make for a better system.

Esoteric.5490:

Sunspots.9861:

The question is, will they underestimate us?

Almost certainly. Blackgate has a little surprise in store to welcome them to competitive WvW.

I think reset night in particular will be a huge surprise.

Cool, I guess they will officially get their test. I think it’s safe to say they have more oceanic than us, but we will def bring it everytime we have the people to do so. I know we won’t make the mistake of underestimating them like everyone before. The question is, will they underestimate us?

Uhhh no rating reset??? Are we doing this again next week?

Did he just compare himself to Einstein and tesla lol.

I think normally I’d say what you are looking for is a t3 server or below. The meta for 1 and 2 is large groups, organized Zerg balls, and opportunistic point grabbing. The problem though, is the ratings are all mixed up, so picking any server will bring mixed results.

Okay let me try. The top 3 servers in wvw “have a lot of people on all the time.” Okay there ya go!

This thread sure has gotten quiet! I hear there are some login issues?

nalenb.1425:

I’ve been a software developer for 30 years in many different capacities and I don’t agree with the OP’s theory at all.

I’m sold. This is 100pct absolute proof without a doubt that the OP is completely wrong. Thankyou sir.

TC turning up the heat! For the Coast!

That be alot of booty ya got there! Now shake it!

All the powerhouse guilds on FaBL tonight! Great fights [BT], [EA] and [HB]!

Another 3 ways on FaBL in Hills! Pretty intense for us low levels just trying to get a couple kills without getting steamrolled!

Oops, wrong thread! Enjoy the pic anyways.

Thanks for changing the title, it’s nice to know that despite having zero clue what you are talking about you have retained the ability to be reasonable. Please make sure to post if you ever actually encounter the queue bug so you can refine your theory with an errant fact or two.

I still think its weird that t1 bought into that and said BG are nothing but forum warriors. Throughout all our matchups you guys are easily the most humble yet powerful server. If I had to leave TC and wanted to stay near the top, I would choose BG in a heartbeat.

GottFaust.5297:

Ruprect.7260:

GottFaust.5297:

I’m ignoring most of those claims as they have been directly debunked by a developer already. Yes, people are fallible and developers are people, but I trust them much more than random people, rightfully annoyed by long queues as they may be, making obviously exaggerated claims.

Where was this debunked?

If you are referring to the post in this thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Any-Tarnished-Coast-citizens-agree/page/3#post1379180

This was posted before most of this started happening to the extent it is now. Last week it was a little noticable throughout the week as we had queues but it would seem the BL was actually full and this degraded over the course of the week untuil at the end of the week we would have queues and not a full BL.

After the reset last Friday this was extremely noticable as every week there was a queue on reset night obviously. This time it was very different. Times before we would have 2+ zergs covering a map and you could plainly see there was a ton of ppl there. After the reset on friday night, we had queues and not anywhere near 166 ppl on the map. This was made very obvious to us as we coordinate with the other guilds on our server through a serverwide mumble. We maybe had 50-60 players on the whole map and a very long queue, up to 4+ hours for some. As the night progressed and ppl started logging out we noticed no one was getting in and the numbers were steadily decreasing. The servers that had big groups on and no one logging off still had a lot of ppl on the map, our server who had a lot log off while I was on lost players that never were replaced.

We are very coordianted and close knit. We all noticed this problem and it was made very clear in mumble.

You probably don’t have a serverwide mumble or nearly the coordination we do based on your t7 presence so it does not suprise me this has gone unnoticed by you.

Considering the fact that he debunks every symptom listed, continuing to list them doesn’t make him wrong. You should know that…

What I suspect that you are referencing is a symptom of both growing pains and the ratings reset. let me explain: TC was listed as full for all but the earliest hours of the morning for a long time. Many people were complaining that they could not transfer to TC during the time following the announcement of the end of free transfers. As a result of this they actually raised the server population cap, note I said server not Wv3. So many people transferred in after this that it’s STILL listed as full during NA prime time. I’m willing to bet that very few of these new individuals know, care to know, or care at all that you use a “server wide” mumble let alone what the server info is or even what mumble is. This issue will correct itself in time as the information disseminates through their ranks, assuming you make it publicly known. This ties into the second cause, the ratings reset. As more and more people figure out that the ratings have been reset, they naturally want to go out to Wv3 and make their mark. These are often new transfers and people who don’t normally participate in Wv3. They didn’t care prior because the tiers were largely static with advancement being rare outside of mass transfers, and they see it as boring to fight the same people over and over. Now that this is changing they suddenly care again. For example: Gates of Madness could barely field 2 30+ man zergs in EB on a given day before the raitings reset. The interest just wasn’t there. Since word of the reset has gotten out we consistently have 2, and sometimes 3, very large zergs running around and many smaller groups taking camps and the like.

Basically what you have is a bunch of new transfers and newly interested players who don’t know about your established communication channels, and may not care to know, who are clogging up your Wv3 and creating queues for the rest of the established community.

Oh look a long rehash of the initial post that is still factually inaccurate. Thanks for your concern but we don’t need any unpaid pseudo-designers on the job.

It’s funny that low pop servers are using this as some rally to get people to come back. Lol whatever, desperation > fact. To have the queue bug, you need a queue.

Your theories are incorrect. I read through your post and found it to be wrong on all counts. It’s your theory, thus your job to back it up with evidence…yet everything you laid out is contrary to fact. You are wrong sir.

Yeah, wrong on all counts bud.

Flawed Victory.4321:

just one quick question… sor owned 500+ppt most of the time when they were in t2. BG has not yet achieved that this week. is that mean sor is now much more stronger than bg?

That was a 1v1, so you really can’t draw much based purely on ppt.

Crazy 3 way for Arahs! Sometimes you just know that noone really wants the camp, they just want to kill every red thing in the way! GG [PRO] & [KNT]!

TC is cool because literally everywhere you go there are tons of people of all levels. The map chats for every zone are enthusiastic and enjoying the game. Even though I spend a lot of time in wvw I run into people constantly that play the game completely different than I do but are having just as much fun. It’s a huge advantage for me because I enjoy the social aspect of the game.

Doesn’t BG stand for Bodyguards? Maybe they could protect from the scary bad guys during the dolyak parade?

Ascii.9726:

Mance.5640:

It’s after midnight and the weekend is over, Jade Quarry, another day closer to victory.

Translation: Jade Quarry’s strongest period is when everyone else goes back to work & life during the working week, because JQ don’t have such commitments.

Did I call that or what. Forum warriors.

Even though I love my Ranger, leveling this necro purely in wvw has been awesome. Here’s a score update for those who need it!

rmBossa.4621:

And thus begins the battle for the forums.

The trolls always sleep till sunday… I wonder what the SoR trolls are like?

Pretty much every SoR forum warrior is in CDS. People call Indo a troll but I think thats just some past history in another game. I’ve always found him to be intelligent and insightful.

Underestimating SoR would be a huge error for t1. They benefited as much as jq from stacking before the end of free transfers and have a real desire to win this tier this week because its their opportunity to stick in t1 for a long time if they do. Their server loyal guilds (TW/CHOO/FEAR) are all equally capable of dominating other guilds on any map and work together noticeably well. There one weakness is probably the very thing that got them there, the influx of softer transfers but they are still a force to be reckoned with. Don’t expect their enthusiasm or presence to wane during the week.

Please stop bothering to argue with idiots who are pursuing their own odd need for Internet argument victory. We all know the queue issue exists, it’s up to each idiot to do his own research on the subject, not our duty to continually reexplain in ever increasing simplistic terms for barnacle heads.

Mindtrick.5190:

always thought JQ had more trolls. Now with BG and JQ having there own threads. We can really see the winner of the forum warrior server achievement.

Haven’t seen a single bg troll in this thread. Take a look in the mirror bro.

I think this is appropiate as it addresses 2 themes of this matchup at once.

Regardless of where the week and the score leads us, this has been an enjoyable reset weekend and its nice that we can have such a fair matchup at least in N/A. If we had had to keep this going for a couple weeks, I’d have been perfectly happy even in third place. Cheers BG and FA.

Here’s an update showing TONS of PiNK, just not any of the fleshy kind!

Saweth You Him.9047:

Esoteric.5490:

Saweth You Him.9047:

Esoteric.5490:

Saweth You Him.9047:

Esoteric.5490:

Saweth You Him.9047:

This is a time consuming aside for the real issue: icoa. icoa = BG. BG = icoa.

What does this even mean?

-.-

It’s a serious question.

no comment

Ok, that’s fine. You can be cryptic with statements that have no context.

The logic is so sound and decisive it warrants no explanation but if I must:

This symbol ‘=’ expresses equality. What is on one side of the sign is equal to what is on the other side of the sign. The symbol links what is on either side in a statement. So what is on one side is equal in some essential form to what is on the other. The law of identity states that a thing is what it is. So what is on one side of the sign ‘=’ as it is identified by the law of identity is in some essential form the same as what is one the other side which is identified by the law of identity.

So for example. icoa =BG states that the identifier icoa which states that icoa is what it is-is in some essential form equal to BG an identifier which states that BG is what it is.

‘icoa = BG’ forms a complete statement.

“This is a time consuming aside for the real issue:…”

‘This’ is an identifier which represents the essential meaning of the sentence which came prior, the first sentence of the paragraph, the key sentence of the paragraph, the sentence that gives the paragraph its context. The key sentence or the sentence which gives the paragraph its context alludes to the nature of the posts in the thread which are of an aristocratic nature and are moot statements.

“…a time consuming aside…”

The moot statements require time to address as does every statement that is addressed which comsumes time. Since they are moot something must trump. Thus they are an aside to the trumping issue.

“…for the real issue…”

already explained above.

“… icoa. icoa = BG. BG = icoa.”

This is the trumping issue.

I think that you think you are winning the internet right now. You aren’t.

Shaojack.3871:

Anet responded to the TC thread on this and set everything was working fine. =(
So not sure man. Ill like their thread with the mod post.

Edit: with mod thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Any-Tarnished-Coast-citizens-agree/first#post1334270

and also….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Queues-for-WvW-The-Official-Thread/first#post82369

The only time they did respond was when we were the only server reporting an issue, and it really didn’t help that so many other servers tried to interject and say we were idiots. To be fair, I myself had to witness it to believe it, but once I did, its so obvious as to be ridiculous. Having a queue on all maps when you don’t even have enough people to take a camp is stupid.

Hopefully Anets silence is them trying to find the actual cause, we’ll see. I do know that they need to at least respond with some type of awareness of the issue, or they are going to lose many people who are aware of nothing more than fighting uphill battles and spending 10 hrs in queues.

Bones.5762:

Sunspots.9861:

Bones.5762:

FA, we need to play better and smarter, we need to stop playing like the other servers are mindless zergs because i’m personally embarassed to get rolled with more numbers than them on our own bl because they used the proper sieging tactics and defenses. I know we can do better than this, because if we don’t start playing like the other servers know what they’re doing, this week will be a blowout.

People don’t realize there is a large tactics jump from t3 to t2. We have spent weeks learning and adjusting ourselves, but if you think any Zerg sharing a guildtag is mindless, you have allready lost. Anytime 2 or more guilds are on a map we have to know exactly where they are at all times because hitting them before they hit you is about 50pct of winning. The rest happens in the next ten seconds.

i have not called you guys mindless, but rather i feel this server is playing this matchup like you guys are which is not very smart of them.

Relax. I wasn’t picking apart your post…I was agreeing with you.

Bones.5762:

FA, we need to play better and smarter, we need to stop playing like the other servers are mindless zergs because i’m personally embarassed to get rolled with more numbers than them on our own bl because they used the proper sieging tactics and defenses. I know we can do better than this, because if we don’t start playing like the other servers know what they’re doing, this week will be a blowout.

People don’t realize there is a large tactics jump from t3 to t2. We have spent weeks learning and adjusting ourselves, but if you think any Zerg sharing a guildtag is mindless, you have allready lost. Anytime 2 or more guilds are on a map we have to know exactly where they are at all times because hitting them before they hit you is about 50pct of winning. The rest happens in the next ten seconds.

The secon week will be the worst, but after that things should tighten up pretty quickly. At least the first week is entertaining.

Great Fights in Fabl [KnT]. I think most of the weeks we spent in Tier 2 together you were in EB, and we didn’t get to run into you much. You guys are awesome.

If you are here in this picture, you know how fun this fight was. And if you aren’t in this picture, you might have been the bg that came up behind the FA haha.

Absinth.6917:

Best of luck TC.

Hopefully this match up will fully reinvigorate your server.

We never devigorated. We just faced a week long 1v1 with a T1 server. And there’s alot of match left to go.

Here’s an update! So far so fun!

Lol does FA really think they can beat bg? Maybe we should just stand back and watch you two fight.