Guild Wars 2

If it ends up being cheaper to buy a precursor than to craft one, Anet will have missed the mark on this entirely. The entire point of this should be to offer a time investment alternative to the straight up gold/rng grind that currently dominates precursor aquisition. It makes no sense to introduce precursor crafting if its just a bunch of kitten you can buy off the tp and combine together, unless this route ends up being dirt cheap (which we all know it wouldn’t be, and SHOULDN’T be).

It needs to be a quest of some kind, where time and effort are the dominant resource requirement. Some straight gold investment should be expected and would be reasonable, but all gold would defeat the purpose. Something along the lines of the personal story, but hopefully more interesting.

Also, (as much as I would love it to be) it won’t be a pure dungeon grind. Just imagine the QQ’ing….

I love this idea. But you don’t make it phases. You make it 5 solo encounters. Everyone picks a lane so you can assign roles for the 5 different mobs (no RNG in who goes where and fights what- lane 1 fights the 1st chain champ, lane 5 fights the 5th chain champ) and each party member has to kill their mob solo within the allotted time then destroy the power core.
Or

Still solo, but you go through each chain champion in rounds. So in round 1 everyone fights the Chain 1 champion and must succeed. Then everyone has to fight Chain 2 champ and succeed, ect.

They would have to tweak the mob class/hp/damage to make them challenging but not insane (just think of the QQ threads :/) so maybe make them lvl 83 vets or lvl 82 elites.

Charming Rogue.8071:

robertul.3679:

Didn’t you guys complain back then when everybody had 3mil karma that it’s useless? Anet listened. Now it’s not useless anymore.

They needed to nerf karma gain, not destroy it completely.

^ This.

Karma wasn’t nerfed, it was murdered with an axe, fire bombed, nuked, then its ashes were collected and mixed with vinegar and spread across the ocean like the sands of time; then they drained the ocean and planned to destroy the water that had mixed with the ashes of karma, but they found the body of Robert Hrouda and were scared he would come back to life and reform the dungeon team, so they put the water back and left it at that.

Nice vids, guys.

Sorry to derail briefly, but did they make any other changes to the path with this patch? My Arah group is on hiatus atm so I haven’t run it recently.

- Fixed skips (don’t care)
- Added mobs to Brie

Anything else?

murven.7581:

Bhawb.7408:

Power does not make minions hit harder. Minions do not scale anything except conditions inflicted with your stats.

Do you have any source for this information?

Yes. A year of playing the game.

Karma needed to be nerfed, but I think we can agree they went a little too far with it- namely the dungeon nerf. Give us half of what it use to be. I think that’s fair.

Not happy, but it could have been worse. That’s all I’m gonna say.

Takayuki.7485:

Tentonhammr.7849:

VazolRondeln.5283:

Yep, the whole group i was in a dungeon with got kick out. Was surprised i could rejoin the dungeon at the same point though =)

My fractal instance got terminated :/ We were 2 mins away from finishing our 49 daily.

LIES!

Close enough, you troll. I forgot which one we were doing.

HOLY LAG, BATMAN.

VazolRondeln.5283:

Yep, the whole group i was in a dungeon with got kick out. Was surprised i could rejoin the dungeon at the same point though =)

My fractal instance got terminated :/ We were 2 mins away from finishing our 49 daily.

No idea. Couldn’t even log to the forums.

Everyone I know just got d/c’ed…. my whole fractal group, my whole friends list, everyone who was online on our teamspeak. Anyone else?

The closest you can get to tanking in this game is the Champion Ettin in the Uncategorized fractal. He responds to high toughness for some reason. I have a set of knights gear on my guardian that I never use except for this fight. Makes it a little easier if you can hold him to one side of the room while the rest of the group kills the shaman.

Thank God. For a second I thought we might go a whole day without another Dredge fractal QQ thread.

Ele facetanks Belka orb
Ele facetanks abom rock
Ele facetanks Lupi kick
Ele facetanks Lupi swipe
Ele facetanks Alphard’s bomb

You’ve clearly broken the game with your OP build. I’m just waiting for someone to comment and ask what you’re running… and be serious about it.

Skill clicking and soldier runes are clearly OP. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NERF MANGO PIES!

Just before the chest seal during the Cliffside Fractal. Couldn’t get the angle perfect, but w/e.

Turin.1024:

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

AndrewSX.3794:

Sins.4782:

TL;DR: Fine unless you use exploits, kick players to sell spots, or scam, or anything else that breaks the user agreement.

This.

Also, joining groups and purposefully kick/disband them in order to delete their istances (cause you’re a white knight that must smite the dungeon sellers plague) should be banned aswell – just like kick for selling, which do is bannable and wrong.

I had people join my instance checked that I killed lupicus and then said: “congratz you are one of the legit, no kick, have fun”.

I honestly do not mind at all that we have these white knights, as long as they are only kicking exploiters, they are like an in-game moderator lol

I got some of those as well, but its rare, most white knights just use the merge bug and don’t even check if you’re legit or not.

Most white knights wouldn’t even know HOW to check and see if the sell is legit. Knowing the names of dungeon way points and all the progress prompts is only for dirty elistists.

Because if someone kittens up, and things go horrendously wrong and you wipe, you’re kittened. Always leave one alive. Always. People screwing up the arm seals is one of the many reasons I refuse to pug fractals between lvl 11-39, and am reluctant to pug the remaining levels. I’d rather skip it for the day or just wait for my group.

NoTrigger.8396:

Tyrantis.8640:

I really think ANet needs to address this now if they ever plan on it. I think people that do this are scum and need to find better things to do with their time and not start flooding LFG for money.

ANet, I want to know your stance on this. In my opinion it ruins the community seeing “Selling Path for XXXX” and makes me feel like it does when I see some crappy gold selling email.

Will someone from ANet talk about this issue before it is an issue because I know it will become common soon enough if they don’t stop it now.

there would be less dungeon selling going on if arenanet fixed all exploits.
on EU, in 8/10 cases people skipped lupi.

I do not understand why this is so kittening complicated for them. Insert a check so Brie and none of the other final bosses can be triggered if Lupi is still alive.

I love my zerk necro. I love it to death. I’ve been playing it for over a year. The overall play style is just fun. But I just keep finding it harder and harder and harder to justify bringing it anywhere. I only ever use it in high level (if you can even count 40-50 lvl runs as high) fractals these days, and that’s because it fills a few niche rolls within my specific team to the point where its not a detriment. (Our group is a little unconventional, and we’ll never set speed records but we still blow through our daily runs.) For any other dungeon, except maybe a fun run through P1 in CoF or SE, I bring my warrior, guardian, or mesmer.

I’ve tried as hard as I can, changed and experimented endlessly, and can’t improve upon meta zerk gear and 30/25/0/0/15 for coordinated group DPS. Might stacking builds are useless in coordinated groups. DS oriented builds can’t match dagger auto and a proper rotation, and I fear there is nothing left without new weapons and serious re-balance or re-working of either the class, or the game. We do nothing useful better than any other class, and things we may do as well are overshadowed by our other shortcomings. That’s kinda all there is to it.

In random pugs with questionable players, yes we can succeed and seriously contribute. In organized, but not hardcore groups our shortcomings may be overlooked and proper play can compensate to not slow things down too much. However, in a truly organized high level group, we have nothing to offer except maybe a gimmicky niche roll in high level fractals (which really no longer exist due to the 50 cap). We don’t. Sorry guys. There’s no argument here.

You can blame the class, you can blame PvE and the way it was designed, you can blame the tactics that have been devised to quickly and efficiently deal with PvE content, but it doesn’t change the bottom line.

Guanglai I respect your efforts and will gladly help in any way I can, but I don’t see this leading anywhere productive.

Not a bug. Working 100% as intended. Learn the mechanic. And you don’t need 60 AR.

swiftpaw.6397:

Pug roulette is like Russian roulette except every time that it’s your turn you get shot in the head.

New forum sig.

29, 37, 49 every day since patch. 1 asc chest (w/ kittenty stats) and 1 skin. Rest of my team has had the same kitten luck. Ascended drops seem about the same, we never had much luck with them anyway. But wtb skin drops? Waaayyyyy lower than they used to be.

Not to derail, but Fractal Tonic? Anyone got it other than the guy on reddit?

Ayrilana.1396:

Amineo.8951:

Ok so go glass cannon build and get murdered during the ‘’sitting in buttons’’ phase of dredge fractal and have fun being down in less than 2seconds in full zerk, remember that you can’t dodge there and blind doesn’t work, reflection won’t work for melee dredges too, don’t get me wrong berserker is master race in any other PVE content (except world bosses since you can’t crit them so crit chance and crit dmg are useless) but here it’s not useful until the boss.

If done properly, you could stand there naked and not need to just eat the attacks. It’s just that a lot of people were so used to dying on the switches, they either forgot or never learned the real mechanic.

Wait wait wait wait….wait. Face tanking an army of dredge isn’t the mechanic? Aren’t you supposed to face tank? FACE TANK ALL THE THINGZ! That’s how you play right?

#ClericsGear #NewMeta

spoj.9672:

Im patiently awaiting a cleave weapon. And hopeful anet will develop the class into a spiker type class. Thats something that could easily happen with the addition of cleave and a few minor buffs and alterations in traits. Attrition is far too different to how the necro currently works for it to be the route they continue to follow.

Until then I will be avoiding my necro for the most part. I will however being attempting to break the lupi record once i finish my ascended focus. After that i probably wont have a reason to go back to it until we get some big changes.

I +1 spammed this for about 15 minutes. Too bad it still only counts as 1.

You keep saying Exploiters, but what you don’t know or don’t understand is there are people out there who solo/duo every path in the game (including Arah)100% WITHOUT exploits. And yes, that includes soloing Lupi. YouTube it if you don’t believe us.

There are 3 types of path sellers:

1. Scammers who pug and kick
2. Eploiters who take advantage of bugs/skips
3. LEGIT solo players who do everything by the book

Report 1 and 2, and leave 3 out of the conversation entirely, because they’re not doing anything wrong.

spoj.9672:

Energy sigils on each offhand is pretty much a must on necro. In a group you can do without endurance food but if going solo endurance food helps alot.

Spoj have you ever run the numbers on using orrian meat stew and force/night/slaying sigils vs. One of the Butternut soups and energy sigil for min/maxing dps on your necro?

We obviously need some sort of endurance regen but in spots where we can get away with just one or the other I haven’t really been able to figure out which combination works best dps wise.

There is, at best, a loose correlation between ap and experience (i.e game knowledge). There is NO correlation between ap and skill.

An Ode to Mimic

Gone are the days of the perfect, bouncing axe
KO’ing the ettin, shaman, and vet with bomb attacks.
Forevermore shall we weep,
Lost hope to roll the fights that made us sleep.
Dealing with the frosty tower, the icy poll,
Never again which we shall troll,
Guardians be quick with stability equipped,
An A net decision has once again been flipped.
Gone forver, our purple tick,
Which made Rabsovich grab his kitten.

Mimic was more fun than functional most of the time, but hey. It was cool while it lasted.

There is nothing wrong with the control panel phase. Please leave it alone. Its one of the few instances in the game that require at least a modicum of communication and teamwork. If you know how to do it right, no one even has to die. (And “right” does not involve ash legion spy kits).

The problem is with the middle 2 phases.

Turret Path: No real issues. DPS and you’re done. Decrease some of the mobs maybe.
Bomb Path: Eliminate it entirely leaving just the turret path; or decrease the bomb spawn timer and decrease the number of mob spawns by 30%.

Clown car: I love my 50+ heavy miner bags, but I’d rather not sit there mindlessly auto-attacking for 7-10 mins. Reduce the mob spawn scaling 30-40%.

Oh, and those mobs that are sometimes, but not always, on the ground and on the catwalks at the beginning? They need to go die in a grease fire.

Shpongle.6025:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Wait what? Have they reduced the zoom or something :S?

yea, if ur a max size norn like me u can only see the lower 1/4th of the red death circle because it’s behind whatever ur targeting….

You better be kittening kidding…

iczek.9628:

That reminds me. A while ago I ran HoTW P1. There were 2 staff guardians in the group. We were on the last boss. I said “lol 2 staff guardians”. One replied saying " that’s the only way to defeat this boss".

Sweet Mother Teresa on the hood of a Mercedes Benz….all that cleric-y badness and they still can’t melee the butcher….

Feelings that a class is being excluded or ignored I can understand, so a valid argument may exist there.

From a more practical standpoint, this rune set is terrible for anything PvE related and will probably follow the same pattern as other new rune/sigil sets and not be available in PvP, leaving us with just WvW, where they may be of some use for some builds. Engineers may be missing out, but its not with these runes.

Seriously disappointed. All I’m gonna say cause they’re not gonna listen anyway.

Plus 1 for ecto refund on each of my lvl 49 + fractal alts.

On a slightly related side note, this is why I hate these patch previews. Anet never provides enough detail to explain what the kitten is going to happen. I’ve already been infracted twice today dealing with this kitten.

What about daily and per 10 level rewards? If they have been made account bound along with reward levels I seriously might be done with this game. Not trying to be dramatic but seriously, high level fractals (and being able to run them multiple times for full reward) is one of the last things holding my interest in this game.

I’m already kitten ed about the level rollback but I can learn to deal with that. But if Anet is doing YET ANOTHER thing to further discourage players from having multiple characters, I jus won’t even know what to say.

If you don’t already have a legendary, I would suggest you stop and think for a moment about how many different stat combos you really use or would like to use on a regular basis. If its only 2-3, you’d probably be better off just making several more Visions and outfitting them with different stats. For Twilight or Sunrise, you’re looking at a minimum of 1700g in raw coin, plus all the other time consuming account bound stuff. VotM is currently about 200g, even if you factor in addition cost of making it ascended, it would still be way cheaper and faster to make a couple of dupes with different stats.

What you are asking about will work, just not sure if its the best option. Anyway, just something to consider.

Can’t wait for (-) to become (+) and a “working as intended” explanation. :p

Seriously can we get a fix for this?

Player Character.9467:

Azog.3671:

Player Character.9467:

TheGandhiMan.5729:

As is clear from the prices of the other Doubloons the price of silver doesn’t reflect its actual worth as an item and is being grossly altered by its necessity in making the vile of quicksilver.

There’s already a million posts about this and where all your mindsets differ from anet’s is so clearly laid out by this statement. If it is used to make quicksilver why do you feel that the ability to turn it into quicksilver should not impact the value of the item? The price of anything on the market is determined by what people are willing to pay for it. Even if somebody buys something out the item will only sell at what somebody is willing to pay. What somebody is willing to pay is determined by what it can do.

So paying 600g more is fair ? GG Fanboy

600? It’s currently 200g ahead of twilight, and that’s less than 50g ahead of bolt and bifrost with sunrise and incin not much below. Oh yeah and it’s a 2hander so 2 1handers are anywhere from 200g-1.4k more than juggernaut. GG Mathsboy

None of them bother to make these comparisons, because you know, math is hard. Its the same kitten in every one of these doubloon threads.

I’ve made my legendaries, bought my T3 armor, ect. I have a lot of gold and not much to spend it on, so I forge a lot. I’ve forged probably tens of thousands of rares. I’m gonna share with you all of my extensive knowledge of the mystic forge….

You put stuff in, and other stuff comes out. That’s all I’ve got so far.

My zerk necro is my “main” and I love playing the class because its so much fun. But outside of high lvl fractals I struggle to justify bringing him anywhere else where the blind/weakness spam arent as needed and when my guard, war, and Mesmer can do everything else better.

I have 3 characters that are lvl 49+ in fractals, and while the overall utility in FotM is still lacking, there are several instances like like Cliffside, Volcanic, and to a lesser extent Dredge where wells really shine; the lack of cleave is still a glaring issue, but a proper zerk build and a good rotation can make up for it to some extent.

There’s also nothing funnier than trolling the vets in the urban battleground frac with spectral wall and line of warding. You need voip to do it right and make it somewhat helpful instead of just hilarious, but I suggest you guys give it a shot.

Lambros Augustus.6594:

Bring back stealth kit spamming. Dying on buttons is stupid.

You’re doing it wrong. So very, very, wrong.

…

As for the fractal in general, there’s nothing about it that’s hard. The control panel takes a modicum of coordination/strategy, and the rest of it can be handled by a pack of baddies with a stack of repair canisters. Doing it well, so those canisters aren’t needed and you’re time isn’t wasted, is the hard part. I personally don’t think that’s good design. This fractal is one of the biggest reasons why I can’t pug 48s anymore. After you’ve done it in 12-14 minutes, the thought of being stuck there for 45-60 minutes with 2 staff camping guardians is just horrifying. There’s never a risk of imminent failure, only a question of “how long is this gonna take?”

Heartlust.6140:

Cleave won’t make axe #1 that much better.. not sure why so many are asking for this. Engis already do aoe vuln better than us, as well.

Its gives us something, even if its not ideal.

Ive done 3 high level fractal runs a day for a long, long, time. Usually 2 48s and 1 38, depending on what my group feels like doing/has time for. Starting in July, I hadn’t gotten a skin for 3 months. This last week I’ve gotten 5. Its just RNG.

Astralporing.1957:

It’s 8 copper now. The price will go up, just as the price for metal and wood went up when weapon crafting hit.

When, ever, in the history of this game, were any of the T2-5 woods or metals completely bottomed out in value on the TP? Last September, when the game was 1 month old? Silk and thick leather have been worthless for months, and the addition of essences of luck (i.e salvaging all your greens and blues) made the problem even worse. Please find some evidence for your apples to oranges comparison. Go ahead, I’ll wait right here.

You kittening people will complain about anything, won’t you? Silk and thick leather buy orders are still at 1c on the TP and list prices are the same as vendor prices. Half of my 500 member guild has at least a bank tab full of this kitten, and the world is FLOODED with it. They should have doubled it to 4 scraps and and 4 sections. Be happy they didn’t. No other T5 crafting mat in this game was ever this bottomed out in value. This was an absolutely necessary change. kitten .

Bawi.9541:

I just recently joined gw2, and maybe axe was good at one point, but atm it feels like a weird utility weapon more than anything.

No, it was worse before. It’s actually been buffed a few times, as unbelievable as that may sound.

I’d like to see a 10% straight damage boost to all 3 axe skills, an additional 10% boost to the axe training trait, and cleave on at least 3 targets. I will now stop derailing this into another “how to fix the axe” thread.

spoj.9672:

Axe #2 is really weak so any axe traits are kind of pointless and wasted. Close to death is about a 9% damage boost overall which isnt great but it is one of necros best modifiers.

Best case scenario, with axe training and all party boosts, I’ve hit for ~26k with Ghastly Claws. When you consider the cast time, that’s pretty underwhelming. Factor in the god awful AA you’re left with while its on cd, and it gets even worse.

When the defend event starts, have people check in with what their timer is showing, go with whoever has the lowest time. If you’re coordinating over voip, it’s relatively easy. Doing it through mapchat, not so much. TTS kill rate has remained very high despite this issue, however it IS an issue and it needs to be fixed.

Failing a Teq fight because the start of the battery defense phase lagged out and a Risen Abom has been pummeling the laser for the last 20 seconds? Or the end of the defense phase lagging out and ending with 25 seconds left on the clock, and Teq magically teleporting to the burn/stun phase? Yea, not cool.