Guild Wars 2

So, hm, first we get this stuff put in to allow crafting as opposed to RNG drops in a dungeon like it was with Rings and Fractals . . . (with an option for world-wide RNG drops from what I read) and it’s a complaint it doesn’t drop in dungeons?

When it was dropping in dungeons, there were complaints about no other way of getting it . . .

I’m going to just sigh if, in two months, we see a dungeon or event which is specially made to drop Ascended gear because people want it easier, then people complain about the crafting update being useless.

Essence Snow.3194:

I wouldn’t put it past them considering all the other alt unfriendly things they have done.

Yes, well, they did give my alts Account Magic Find so there’s that.

Narcemus.1348:

Yeah, IMO, Gavin had lots of room to be an extremely respectably developed character if given the chance. No, instead I saw my dagger planted in my friend’s heart…

Yes, but on the other side, I really really want to stab the heck out of Quinn. So it all evens out

I’d be happier if you could pick any model you want within the game and have that image. Partly because it’d be funny to see how people deliberately badly match things up.

People don’t chat because there’s always at least one person who will go: “Ew, RP” or “LOL noobs”.

Or “Reported!”

Other than that, the chatter is usually just limited to events going on or such. WvW might be more lively, but less interesting.

Electro.4173:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

DoctorOverlord.8620:

Good point. Why does Scarlet have all that hate for Jennah.

I know some players who could give a laundry list on that topic, but it is an interesting question to wonder why would Scarlet go after the Queen and Kryta.

I don’t need a laundry list, there’s one reason:

The Queen made this big production to show humanity’s resilience. Scarlet looked at it and said ’o rly"?

(Of course, then Rox, Braham, and me went “ya rly” and kicked her out.)

That would be my guess as to her primary reason.

Its not really anything specifically against Kryta in general, but Queen Jennah was putting on big celebration which would draw a lot of people, which gave Scarlet a perfect opportunity to reveal herself and show her power to a large number of people including emissaries of all the other races.

The Watchwork Knights probably were part of it too. Those gave her an extra opportunity to prove her power, by taking over an entire mechanical army, which is not something that, say, Dragon Bash would have provided.

. . . what are you talking about? She could have taken over all the bots.

TooBz.3065:

Vespirisa.1497:

The blog post already says Ascended weps will drop in these chests and you choose the stat combo/weapon too.

They won’t drop often enough to matter. I’ve see maybe 1 exotic drop a month.

I’ve gotten four in the last five days I played, so RNG at work ladies and gentlemen! Let’s take bets on how many people will be choking up Urmaug’s Secret for the easy JP finish?

Scribbles.3974:

Zindrix.1750:

Scribbles.3974:

Zindrix.1750:

data.4093:

Don’t worry guys, Anet is making sure this game will be like every other korean MMO. You get 1 character at max level and 1 set of gear. Then you never play a 2nd character unless you buy a 2nd account. Guild Wars 1 be dammed.

There was a lot of things I didn’t like about GW1, but I did love not having to grind my kitten off for gear.

what? you had to grind your kitten off for gear in gw1 too………kurzick? luxon? obsi? some of the other ones that had high material lists? XD

Those were for skins. For max stats you could just get the regular stuff for 1 plat.

true, very true, but who is fine with being a mindless zombie, one of the (horde) XD

Given how many black-dyed obsidian armor wearers I saw with Chaos Gauntlets just hanging around showing off their expensive stuff?

A lot of people are fine looking entirely the same.

Narcemus.1348:

I liked them for a short moment, sadly I took the route of the White Stag. I did like the portrayal of the noble nightmare courtier, Gavin, but there really isn’t much there for development (especially since he doesn’t stick around in future story). Still, I think there could have been something there if we didn’t have to kill him, but no nightmare corruption cannot be removed so GUT EM!

Part of me thinks there’s a flaw in Caithe’s thinking about that, after playing my first chapter on a sylvari elementalist. Seriously, it was surprising how swift she went from almost mournful to “kill them before they do any more damage” concerning those star-crossed lovers . . .

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Carys and Tegwen are, if you play your story choices right as a sylvari (Act with Wisdom; Priory; Trap for Eye; Vigil invasion into Cursed Shore), interacted with more than Seiran. And then there’s all the sylvari NPCs in the first 20 levels that you deal the full arc with more or less. The sylvari Crusader who gets you into the order also returns later on (iirc, in both Forging the Pact and Vigil invasion of Cursed Shore).

Side note: Carys and Tegwen=my favorite sylvari. RIP Tegwen. <3 Carys. From bubbly to serious. Best character development in the game, IMO. Just a kitten shame how out of the way you must go to witness them.

. . . okay, NOW I remember them. I had them crop up in my human’s last chapters concerning the Eye of Zhaitan. Yeah that did look decent but it also suffered from the same problem as a lot of the late Orr story. All these personal story characters popping up to take part and no guarantees you’ll know who the heck they are.

Aerlen.5326:

Thinking on this – I don’t think it would have been as awful of a story if someone like Eir or Logan or anyone ELSE with actual emotion, flaws, and personality had to step up. Someone you’ve known since Day One and someone who will treat you as a valued second in command instead of “Trahearne’s Tank So He Doesn’t Die”.

I think it could have been . . . hm . . . it could have been better but not likely.

Looking broader, Destiny’s Edge was always intended to be the NPC group with you to go kill the dragons. Tying one of them down as leader of the Pact makes less sense than having them be able to go “screw this politics stuff and let’s just go already”. Not to mention allowing Logan to take the leadership of the Pact means then he’d have to either leave Divinity’s Reach and the Seraph under someone else or it could be seen as the humans trying to seize control of the fight for their own ends. (Almost anyone else could have the same argument, except Trahearne and possibly Caithe since the sylvari are always more straightforward . . . okay, almost always, thank you Scarlet, get out.)

It’s a similar reason as to why one of the three Orders couldn’t put a representative up there to become Marshall, only it’s buried a little more.

Honestly, what it makes little sense for is for Trahearne to stay in the lead after the fight moves away from Orr. He’s supposed to cleanse Orr, but that task is not done yet. He’s only just getting started, so I’d expect him to abdicate in favor of the player character to kick off the next PS segment.

Why? Because there’s no other character to slide into his place as easily.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Gehenna.3625:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Wolfheart.1938:

Nuka Cola.8520:

No endgame August 28th 2012, no endgame August 29th 2013.

GW1 best endgame ever rofl

not sure if you’re sarcastic or not but gw1 end game WAS good. This is a sequel to that game, released over half a decade later and its not on par, not worst, not significantly worst than what we had in gw1 but a royal joke…

Agreed GW1 endgame was good because they got the balance right, not perfect for sure but when you got something it usually was because you put some work in it and you could feel that satisfaction.

An ascended trinket is gained by logging in and doing a daily that is easy and doing that 20 times and a monthly which you buil up as you go along your dailies. I don’t get much satisfaction from that because it’s all easy.

Exactly, its a very casual system that annoys me quite a lot. i want to work for my stuff, not log in, play for 30 minutes, log off and have the same items as some1 else who’s playing 5h+ a day.

Yeah, but here’s the thing…

I don’t care what items you have, and “gear envy” has never been a big part of how I play games.

I also would prefer not to have to sit at the computer for 5h+ a day just to get an item. Been there, done that, and NEVER want to go back.

That’s why anet chose the casual path and people like you are happy (which is probably the majority of gw2 players that are still playing).

I just want you to stop vilifying me (in general broad strokes) over my choices. Or saying that I am killing the game by existing.

Interesting to note Rotscale was, if I recall, in the Beta and not added later. He was, however, revamped quite a lot

(Sorrow’s Furnace. / The green weapons update.)

These were the same update.

(An entire new continent with around 30 new explorable areas. A new storyline with 13 story missions.
Over 200 new quests.
Two new professions, the Assassin and Ritualist.
At least 30 new skills per profession.
Several new PvP arenas.
Four new Guild Halls.
The introduction of alliance mechanics including a moving boundary of war and allegiance rank/faction.
Two competitive missions, Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry.
Three challenge missions.
Two elite missions, The Deep and Urgoz’s Warren.
Alliance battles.
New guild cape designs.
Plus more, including all associated quality of life and refinement changes.)

Also known as “Guild Wars: Factions”, differentiated to not be an expansion but an entirely different campaign and viable game. Which happened to be link-able to Prophecies.

You do not need to pad the list with everything Factions added to the game. It’s really enough to point out that AND how GW2 has yet to have anything on the same scale of an update. So far they’ve about managed to draw even with the “Sorrow’s Furnace” update

ShadowPuppet.3746:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

I hate the concept of Kormir as a glory-thief who “took mah gawdhood”. Too bad ever since that YouTube video was made (poorly) everyone seems to think that way.

In GW2, it’s more the Queensdale Champ Lewt Train (choo choo) which makes me sigh. But it’s the natural evolution of player reaction to mechanics, staking out the lowest time-and-effort-for-profit possible and hitting it like it was dating their sister.

^this, I dislike human nature apparently. While I realize games are different things for different people, I can’t for the life of me figure out why people are so easily satisfied with game design that is not in the slightest way compelling. I get that everyone likes loot, I mean who doesn’t enjoy getting shinies but that is a pretty low bar to set if that is the only concern a playerbase has.

It’s not just this game, like I said, it’s been many many games in the past. I can still name a lot of them off too. The Graveyard at Tos, Castle Victoria, Avar Village, the South Karana Aviak Village, Highhold Keep, City of Bones, “the Balrons”, “Cyclops Valley”, Jaya Bluffs Feather Farm . . .

And for a lot of the talk about how people like loot, it’s not liking loot, it’s liking what they can afford through selling loot . . . or in some cases lots of cash

MakubeC.3026:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

MakubeC.3026:

General rules:

a)You can only use WP if you are dead.
b) Set an amount of money for yourself (1g or 2g). You got lost with only that in hand. If you run out of it and die, you won’t be able to WP. It’s GAME OVER.
c) If you find an event that is up to 15 lvls higher, you must TRY to do it.
d) If you find a veteran up to 5 lvls higher, you must kill it.
e) You can only use items you find. Can’t use the TP unless you run into one.
f) If you run into a heart you must TRY to do it.
g) You can’t use your traits until you run into a mayor city.

Does c) include Group Events or ones with swarms which can bury a lone player in no time flat? Because then I’ll have to give this a pass. I am thinking about doing this and chronicling it for lolz.

Also g) , would you count forts or large towns on the areas (Like Claypool, for instance, or Lionguard forts) for the Traits?

As for C, you must at least try do it. Odds are you are not going to be alone. If you used a Teletransportation Device and ended up on Costa Rica and saw a burning home with kids inside, you should at least to save them. That’s what adventure is all about.

G and E refers to anywhere you can find a TP or trainer. But don’t buy stuff with another character and pick them up with your Lost Adventurer. You are alone in this.

I agree on the theory of C. But chances are if the event is a loner (I run into those a LOT) then I’ll just be wasting WP fees.

. . . yeah it’s time for me to make a mesmer and get them lost. Well, sorry, starting Tuesday since it’s the first time I’ll have time to devote to this seriously

Gandarel.5091:

IMO, Sylvari is a race very capable of learning, but on the other hand, they will never be as wise as for example the human, Durmand.

Most of them seem to maintan the mental-state of a 2 years old with the wasted IQ of an asura.

I’d say their mental maturity is often not there yet (the Firstborn an example of ones who are more mature). A lot of them are really young, they just don’t look like it.

Also, I don’t think many humans can be as wise as Durmand was. Or Prince Mehti.

By the way, Verata and his little cult? I always assumed the local tengu got tired of them mucking around and took them out.

Of course, wouldn’t be technically opposed to some remnant of that group or record of it reappearing.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

Good point. Why does Scarlet have all that hate for Jennah.

I know some players who could give a laundry list on that topic, but it is an interesting question to wonder why would Scarlet go after the Queen and Kryta.

I don’t need a laundry list, there’s one reason:

The Queen made this big production to show humanity’s resilience. Scarlet looked at it and said ’o rly"?

(Of course, then Rox, Braham, and me went “ya rly” and kicked her out.)

MakubeC.3026:

General rules:

a)You can only use WP if you are dead.
b) Set an amount of money for yourself (1g or 2g). You got lost with only that in hand. If you run out of it and die, you won’t be able to WP. It’s GAME OVER.
c) If you find an event that is up to 15 lvls higher, you must TRY to do it.
d) If you find a veteran up to 5 lvls higher, you must kill it.
e) You can only use items you find. Can’t use the TP unless you run into one.
f) If you run into a heart you must TRY to do it.
g) You can’t use your traits until you run into a mayor city.

Does c) include Group Events or ones with swarms which can bury a lone player in no time flat? Because then I’ll have to give this a pass. I am thinking about doing this and chronicling it for lolz.

Also g) , would you count forts or large towns on the areas (Like Claypool, for instance, or Lionguard forts) for the Traits?

I hate the concept of Kormir as a glory-thief who “took mah gawdhood”. Too bad ever since that YouTube video was made (poorly) everyone seems to think that way.

In GW2, it’s more the Queensdale Champ Lewt Train (choo choo) which makes me sigh. But it’s the natural evolution of player reaction to mechanics, staking out the lowest time-and-effort-for-profit possible and hitting it like it was dating their sister.

IndigoSundown.5419:

There’s a lot to like about the base game. I think the Living Story could use less “bread and circuses,” and more “meat.” Every time I read Colin or Mike O’Brien talking about it, it sounds like fun, but the actual execution has been a lot more “click X” and get achievement and a lot less story or content that makes sense and is compelling.

It may be very likely we don’t get anything other than cotton-candy story since, well, their second attempt to actually try with something to develop has blown up so spectacularly.

Especially when they said “hey, Super Adventure Box is next for people who missed doing it earlier this year” and people started to flip out.

ThiBash.5634:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

. . . you choose Seiran as a “well-written character”?

I chose her as a “well-written Sylvari”. It takes the Battle for Claw Island to have Seiran realize that the world isn’t all fun and games, and that she can’t always rely on others to sacrifice themselves for her personal welfare, to clean up her mess. That’s character progress to me.

There are other characters I like more, but insofar Sylvari go, it’s only Seiran and Caithe that show any form of character development (Caithe wanting to go on a needless murder spree a bunch of times, thus showing a less noble side). The rest of the Sylvari are either super noble, or (the villans) super not noble. They have no character flaws either way though.

I think those two and Trahearne are the only three sylvari around in the story focus for any length of time to actually get to “know” them. Which means we’re looking at bite-sized character windows already, never a good way to look at them. And with them not in the focus . . .

. . . that means the writers don’t have to spend three months trying to make Random Warden #359 into a rounded character. As a matter of fact, if they did that they’d probably be looking for another job.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Gehenna.3625:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Wolfheart.1938:

Nuka Cola.8520:

No endgame August 28th 2012, no endgame August 29th 2013.

GW1 best endgame ever rofl

not sure if you’re sarcastic or not but gw1 end game WAS good. This is a sequel to that game, released over half a decade later and its not on par, not worst, not significantly worst than what we had in gw1 but a royal joke…

Agreed GW1 endgame was good because they got the balance right, not perfect for sure but when you got something it usually was because you put some work in it and you could feel that satisfaction.

An ascended trinket is gained by logging in and doing a daily that is easy and doing that 20 times and a monthly which you buil up as you go along your dailies. I don’t get much satisfaction from that because it’s all easy.

Exactly, its a very casual system that annoys me quite a lot. i want to work for my stuff, not log in, play for 30 minutes, log off and have the same items as some1 else who’s playing 5h+ a day.

Yeah, but here’s the thing…

I don’t care what items you have, and “gear envy” has never been a big part of how I play games.

I also would prefer not to have to sit at the computer for 5h+ a day just to get an item. Been there, done that, and NEVER want to go back.

DarcShriek.5829:

Onshidesigns.1069:

Lookers – temporary players who are looking but don’t know if they will stay.

Casuals – players with less time but do play.

Hardcore – play a lot

Lechers – People who play for free and never buy anything with real money. Box cost does not pay for the servers or new content.

You forget a category – Obnoxious Jerk. These are people that label people that buy the game but make no additional purchases leeches.

Well you forget, there are two kinds of people in this world. The ones who categorize people into groups, and the ones who don’t . . .

Swagger.1459:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Swagger.1459:

you have not cleared up anything for anyone. stop trying to fool players into thinking that they are “taking responsible steps” by transparently trying to get more money out of players. defending these poor decisions only encourages bad business behavior and cheapens the player experience.

Okay, I’m curious, just how are they trying to get more money out of players through Ascended?

okay, now i’m curious, did you not read the second half of my post?

Well, yes and with the spelling and grammar errors I marked it “D-, see me after class”, but that’s beside the point. Mostly because it was a rambling run-on sentence which left me puzzled as to just how you reasoned it out. I’m going to try to feel it out, so let me know how accurate this is:

“We haven’t seen it yet, but it requires a lot of materials to make, which means it’s expensive, which means you must RMT it.”

Swagger.1459:

you have not cleared up anything for anyone. stop trying to fool players into thinking that they are “taking responsible steps” by transparently trying to get more money out of players. defending these poor decisions only encourages bad business behavior and cheapens the player experience.

Okay, I’m curious, just how are they trying to get more money out of players through Ascended?

I have a few. Most of them, naturally follow: “Guys, I got this…”

Others usually are preceded half a second by “Oh crap Tobias isn’t on TS he didn’t hear us tell him to wait before pulling.”

Vayne.8563:

I mean in Guild Wars 1, you can pretty much solo 99% of the game including almost all the hard mode dungeons with heroes.

Been there, done that, got the Monuments Heck, I managed Prophecies with Henchies, now that was a painful experience. Just because people said it could not be done and I needed to group. Oh, and get on your warrior not your ranger.

Here, it’s harder but a lot of stuff you can do if you can dodge well enough. Presumably. It will just take forever in some cases.

Anyway, already spoke a lot of my pieces on this in other threads so not feeling like completely repeating myself here. I don’t expect Ascended to be as huge a problem as it is being made out to be, I’m curious as to what is the design response to it existing, and still resist the idea of high-level Fractals as “the fun stuff” due to it being the same as low-level stuff just with more one-shots and Agony.

. . . and if I don’t see Mursaat to show up as a result of widespread Infusion being a potential thing I’ll be more disappointed

Hmm, I wonder if we ever talked together, OP.

I’ll check back later after I have time to chew on this in my back-brain.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Will you trolls ever learn to read statements all the way through rather than taking things out of context?

People will ease up on taking it out of context when it stops getting this kind of passionate, emotional reply. It’s very good bait to work people up and fog the issue, distract people from addressing the actual heart of the argument and only focus on details.

It’s a known, accepted, debate topic.

… Pretty sure that whole Manifesto argument was quelled when Vayne told everyone off with multiple sources to official dev interview and statements, even a blog post addressing the manifesto shortly after it was created, before the game was even out.

I’m sorry to be the one to tell you . . .

. . . nobody who is opposed to Vayne’s viewpoint enough to continue to put that stuff out of context? Cares what he has to say. Colin, himself, could show up and explain it (again) and everyone would still ignore it.

Welcome to debate tactics.

Caradryan.1795:

To be fair, it’s awfully hard to generate character depth in like, 30 lines of text or less.

Well, you can cheat and use obvious symbolisms meant to provoke sudden reactions in lieu of actually making them deep. Such as “kick the puppy” type of actions to establish that, yes, this character is Not Nice At All.

It’s fake depth but if you’re only needing the character to initially appear and plan to use them later to layer on depth it can work. Can work, if you’re able to. I mean, lots of characters do start out as shallow and simple with some hints there’s more to them than you can see. (If you’ve seen Firefly, you kind of know what I mean. Most of that crew has that going on.)

This is almost a normal approach in a serialized or episodic story. You don’t have space and time to show off a very complex and deep character in a thirty-minute episode, or an hour-long one. You have to work at it over time and let people see it.

None of this is talking about Scarlet, per se, but it’s just something I’m talking about based on my audio notes from my writing workshops. I really should move those to digital audio, the tapes are wearing out.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The quality of the box is determined by how much effort you put into attacking the Champion. So what she’s trying to ask is why there’s a discrepancy between tagging a Champ once and getting an Exotic box, and tagging a Champ multiple times, and getting a Green box.

It’s hard to tell what’s going on most of the time, since mobs are so dense. Some days I walk away with 40+ Exotic boxes and a handful of Green. Other days I have maybe only a single Green box. Might just be a bug in the hit detection/loot distribution codes.

I was thinking it was DR as I can solo a couple champions in lower zones (or almost solo them) and would sometimes get white/blue loot bags. And for them I was usually only one of three people attacking and the first to engage.

Bismuth.3165:

Castaliea.3156:

We need Elins and school uniforms…

…make sure that gets on the list please.

I’d leave this game immediately if they made that….

I’m still trying to figure out what this means, or if someone accidentally came here from a public school Facebook page.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Will you trolls ever learn to read statements all the way through rather than taking things out of context?

People will ease up on taking it out of context when it stops getting this kind of passionate, emotional reply. It’s very good bait to work people up and fog the issue, distract people from addressing the actual heart of the argument and only focus on details.

It’s a known, accepted, debate topic.

Antiriad.7160:

What is the name of the person working at Arenanet who brought up the whole “Ascended Gear” thing?

Linsey Murdock made the first post about it.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

Professor Sensei.2941:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Fishbait.6723:

Vol.5241:

Secure trading will never happen. The TP is in game for a very important reason.

To make the TP flippers richer?

Give trading, so that players can actually trade & make a profit for themselves.

This wasn’t implimented solely because of the effect it has on game economies and the amount of scamming and backstabbing it infuses into the community. Do you want us to be like Runescape?

I would like the ability to sell high ticket items without being taxed to kitten. I understand it flushes out the chat sometimes but the trade channel works wonders for that.

It’s not just the flushing out the chat, requiring a filter. It was literally many many scams which exist and pretty much will always hit a large number of the players. Large enough to be very vocal about “you should do something about it” no matter how often Anet would go “trust your trading partner and check everything before you accept”.

Because they don’t reimburse just because someone happened to be an idiot and bought an awesome weapon without noticing it’s customized to someone else, or they “had a problem with the trade window, just going to drop it and you pick it up okay?” . . .

Hax.8701:

Question: Why are people using torch with axe?

I’ll be blunt and simple: it’s because I like to set things on fire. Burning always seems to do a rather nice amount of damage, and being able to spread it out after dropping a fire field works for me.

Secondly, light source. I find it kind of useful trying to do Sharkmaw, and in some places at night.

Lastly, on occasion I find someone who does blast finishers on my fire field. I like this.

This is why I use the torch. I use it often with the axe because the axe doesn’t put me in crushing range of many Champions like a sword does. (I am, admittedly, still getting the hang of the sword’s evasive potential.)

Brother Grimm.5176:

Nar.8327:

The slap in the face isn’t SAB, it’s “oh, here’s a new tier of weapons that make the 100+ you already own obsolete, and btw they’re time-gated.”

That is the single most ungrateful remark using the most twisted logic I think I have ever seen. I can understand you complaining about the time-gating issue, but how do you view the new crafting levels and equipment in a negative light? Some players attitudes are simply amazing to observe.

Dissing Quantum Leap is a new low around here…

I’m not dissing Quantum Leap, only the last episode, and only because it left me going “that’s . . . not fair”. No, I’m talking about this other series he was in where the last episode was almost garbage from the little bit I could stomach seeing.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Evans.6347:

Also, they accepted Scarlet in several College’s purely out of interest and probably to prove that the previous Colleges are subpar because she would never graduate from their College.

That’s… actually believable.

And if that’s the case, perhaps the only believable explanation there truly is without some sort of ulterior motive towards Ceara involved, they really should have explained such.

Well you know . . . asura do not explain themselves to bookah. Or lesser asura (which is everyone else).

When you accept the entire race is pretty much a much more petty version of Sheldon Cooper, it gets real easy real fast to believe they’re the dumbest smart people on Tyria.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Bright.9160:

Vayne.8563:

Bright.9160:

Vayne.8563:

Nuka Cola.8520:

No endgame August 28th 2012, no endgame August 29th 2013.

The best reason to play in my opinion. This is what makes this game better than every other MMO. Thank you so much for sharing this positive opinion.

I don’t enjoy endgame, therefor, they shouldn’t put it in the game, because this game is just for me.

Got it.

You’re quite close. Let’s look at this closer.

I don’t enjoy end game. Other people besides me ALSO don’t enjoy end game. We don’t know how big a percentage that is, but clearly other people do feel the same way. There are whole lot of MMOs out there already focused on end game. There are relatively few MMOs (none of the ones I’ve tried) that don’t focus around end game.

Some posters feel ALL the MMOs should be for them. Some of us feel it’s about time that at least one AAA title was for us.

I don’t really see that as unreasonable. It’s far more unreasonable to say that all MMOs should be the same.

So you accuse us of feeling that an MMO should be made just for us, while at the same time expecting the exact same thing from this one? I’m sorry, but you’re being quite the hypocrite.

Not to mention, it wouldn’t hurt your gaming experience in the slightest if they added elite end-game content for the people who enjoy it, seeing how they won’t make a gear treadmill out of it anyway, and the rewards would be purely cosmetics.

Yeah, but then I expect to hear about how “I did The Crystal Dunes in Hard Mode and all I got was this T-shirt” from the forums.

and its supposed to be gamer’s fault? Blame anet and their braindead dungeon reward system, not the player.

I blame who I please, which wasn’t the player there.

Pacifica.9576:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Elbegast.6970:

Seasons
Better Weather Effects
Dark Nights (no, not Christian Bale)

Well darnit, there goes my suggestion for who to voice the next male in the Living Story to go up against Scarlet.

Seriously though, if we could get seasons and weather effects, this would be awesome. I don’t think it’s quite simple to work with . . . but if they could get it right before Minecraft’s modders . . .

Purchasable Real Estate
Player Owned Shops
Player Owned Farms (for Livestock and Produce)

. . . you know that puts it two seconds away from “Farmville” comparisons?

Fishing, Hunting & Farming Professions

Or one line.

In seriousness, I would like to have a farm or such to cultivate cooking ingredients difficult to find in the open world, OR as a means of cultivating some Fine crafting ingredients.

Player-Generated Dynamic Events

CoX did that, and with predictable results: events designed specifically to be farms.

I don’t want to sound like a drama queen but im losing faith in humanity if player housing is being compared to farmville

No, player-owned farms would be more why I used that. Also, you know that’d pop up here in less than two hours if it was announced.

Dustfinger.9510:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Dustfinger.9510:

So really, SAB is just a smaller story happening while the larger stories are happening. It’s not a major event, lorewise. Just one of many inventors trying out one of many inventions. We look at it as bigger than it is because it comes in a patch. But it really isn’t that big of a deal.

It’s a big deal to some people who feel there’s not enough forward motion in things, no feel of the world progressing, and we’ve had festivals of some stripe for fun and games for a while now.

At least that’s how I am reading into this whole thing.

I notice the “festivals of some stripe” also include the ones that do progress the larger stories forward, as well. So making it a big deal seems like a deliberate attempt to have an issue where there really isn’t one.

Possibly. I don’t make those kind of judgments lightly.

Dustfinger.9510:

So really, SAB is just a smaller story happening while the larger stories are happening. It’s not a major event, lorewise. Just one of many inventors trying out one of many inventions. We look at it as bigger than it is because it comes in a patch. But it really isn’t that big of a deal.

It’s a big deal to some people who feel there’s not enough forward motion in things, no feel of the world progressing, and we’ve had festivals of some stripe for fun and games for a while now.

At least that’s how I am reading into this whole thing.

Yargesh.4965:

The whole lied to me thing reminds me of offering to take a small child to get ice-cream with sprinkles. You give the child ice-cream with sprinkles but… THEY WHERE THE WRONG SPRINKLES. They wanted BLUE sprinkles and and these are red and orange and green but not BLUE.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Burnfall.9573:

As the saying goes, “be sincere in what you say and do, improve the negativity about you, only than you will have less complaints”

So the question that raises,
has Arena.net been sincere with their words and actions?
has Arena.net improved the negativity of guild wars 2 world?

Answer any of them, you will find the answer.

It’s kind of hard to tell, considering they “lie” about anything if you ask the right person, and there’s about as much negativity as I used to see towards Abashi. Anyone remember him?

Eh. . .

It reminds me of “But DAAAAAAD, you said I could get Chik Fil A!” “But it’s Sunday….” “You lied to me!”

But really more like:

“Dear, what happened to that vacation we were hoping for this year?”
“Work wouldn’t give me the time off.”
“Didn’t that happen last year?”
“. . . yeah. But we really couldn’t have afforded it anyway, so me working instead is a good thing . . . why are you pulling out the airbed?”

jheryn.8390:

Morrigan.2809:

Hjorje.9453:

I have to say, these threads are so funny to read.

No for all of you that have a disagreement on the ascended stuff. How many of you own an ascended item? We knew back in November they were going to keep adding ascended to the game, if you was against it, then you shouldn’t have gotten any in the time frame because it is against your playing style, correct?
.

I have no Ascended items- not one

I only have one Ascended item, but I must say that I am with Hjorje on this one. I knew they were coming and have decided to start outfitting both of my two mains with ascended gear when I can afford them.

I like the ascended items concept. I can’t wait to see what the new stuff looks like.

I have two. One to replace a Green (!?!) Necklace I hadn’t realized I still had back when I was more enthusiastic about earning Laurels . . . and the Quiver I just made the other day because I was getting tired of a burning book on my back. (I’m keeping it since it works halfway like a light source)

To quote a guy with impeccable taste in dressing gowns:

“That’s a very good question…”

Bright.9160:

marnick.4305:

Here’s an assumption:

There’s only one type of person who can’t afford a new computer and is forced to play on a three years old laptop.

Someone who just spent a lot of his savings on a roadtrip through Africa?

How about someone who had to move (twice) with minimal warning and blow savings to manage the moves? That’s why I’ve still got my poor little Intel Mac Mini

Burnfall.9573:

As the saying goes, “be sincere in what you say and do, improve the negativity about you, only than you will have less complaints”

So the question that raises,
has Arena.net been sincere with their words and actions?
has Arena.net improved the negativity of guild wars 2 world?

Answer any of them, you will find the answer.

It’s kind of hard to tell, considering they “lie” about anything if you ask the right person, and there’s about as much negativity as I used to see towards Abashi. Anyone remember him?

Bright.9160:

I have no idea what you mean by that last sentence though.

Sorry, what I should unpack and say is:

Setting the two economies side by side, it’s almost comparable to see the really desirable items in either trading system have comparably high prices based on what you could realistically earn with what could be considered “casual play”.

The sticking point mentally is how Gold/Plat (1/1000) in GW1 was a different scale than Copper/Silver/Gold (1/100/10000) in GW2. Considering what the average gold (rare) item would sell for in GW1 to a vendor (where they usually would wind up, unless you were selling “Un-ID Golds” to people) it was usually 7-8 per Plat.

In GW2 Rares can be salvaged into Ecto, which can fill you roughly 4-6 to a Gold depending on what the market is at that day. But truthfully, I find I can fill up on Blues/Greens to a Gold much faster if I sell them all to the vendor. Each Blue for level 75-80 is roughly 69c to 99c, each Green can go from at least 1s to 1s99c so it seems. And if you’re in a high-loot environment this isn’t hard to fill up. Even before invasions and the Pavilion, getting in with some dedicated people doing a Temple run could net you full bags awfully quick. Or, barring that, WvW zerging. Especially since you can sell blueprints now.

I present my opinion based on these two paragraphs the two economies are roughly equivalent when it comes to getting your top-requested gear for looks. The amount of time required to “farm up the cash” is about the same.

Lisa.6102:

Lafiel.9372:

I have a sneaking suspicion that SAB is going to be a let down like every other sequel in existence.

Oh come on nothing could be as bad as Dirty Dancing 2 or Grease 2 …………… or could it?

It could be worse. It could be “Love Never Dies”.