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The meta is changing at an alarming rate!
I thought you can no longer use Mesmer portals to bring the Wisps to the trunks? (The Wisps disappear when you warp through.)
Incorrect. You can portal with the wisps.
Source: I did this yesterday after the patch.
Question 1: No, nothing has been implemented. You just have to remember.
Question 2: No, you can mix and match characters for dungeon master title. As long as each dungeon path is run, (including story mode) you will get the dungeon master title.
….reading a post by “a t s e.9614” saying he doubts anyone could solo or even duo it without exploiting…..
Aste just blows hot air out of its mouth.
I am not impressed by this. Anyone could beat Lupi with 5 thief. Try again…
Use that gold to make a legendary and sell it for more gold.
Uh, you forgot the part about getting them to level 21
Why does getting to level 21 matter? You make a level 1 character. Finish the beginning story. Go to WvW. Exit through the LA portal. Walk to the JP.
Doesn’t count. You guys were still stacking which is an exploit.
Here is a solution to all QQ’ers.
1. Make new characters so you have no open character slots.
2. Get those characters to Lions Arch
3. Park them at the jumping puzzle in the top right of the map
4. ??? (Get the chest on a daily basis)
5. Profit.
I have 7 characters sitting at that JP chest and i get about 1-4 Silver doubloons a day from this method.
You all can thank me later by showing me screenies of your juggernaut.
The best fractal party makeup is 5 warriors. Learn to deal with the mechanics without reflects. It makes you a better player and you learn a thing or two.
^^ Bow Bear!!!!!!
I watch Nemesis’ videos because I fancy accents and his just hits the right spot
Yes this boss has low something.
Staff ele is even better if a LH ele is in the same group. Then you get max might due to all the blasts.
wow his confusion level is over 9000
TIL 70% ~= 100%
Peak effectiveness? thats relative on your belief and to be honest i think sword is over rated.
There is math to back the claim fyi so it is not relative to his belief. I’m not going to post it because that would take the fun out of a learning opportunity for you.
I’m glad you did. Was perfect.
Yeh.. so much for those self entitled types who make their own groups and specify what they want in them =p I join them and tell them to do things my way because their way is rediculous and doesn’t work with my pvt gear. Always in such a rush with their glass gear, always dieing and doing no dps on the floor. I always tell them to just spread out and ranged spiderqueen, stacking never works and gets everyone killed, same with lupicus. Also I don’t want to be forced to exploit. They need to understand that when i’m doing cm im not interested in using cheap mechanics like reflects, I want to take my time and rely on my playstyle and skill.
Also I don’t want to be forced to exploit. They need to understand that when i’m doing cm im not interested in using cheap mechanics like reflects, I want to take my time and rely on my playstyle and skill.
cheap mechanics like reflects, I want to take my time and rely on my playstyle and skill.
playstyle and skill.
O_O
Okay i’ll be honest I got bored reading this thread hence I didn’t get through it all so I will summarise my opinions.
-axe/longbow ranger special ed simin warrior dude, if your gonna talk complete kitten please make your post short enough so illiterate like me can read it without getting a headache
- Guan… LOL
That’s all I read and the OP… my point here is. Please don’t leave long replies I want to participate more please and thank you
I agree. Long walls of text make me not want to read. At least put a tl;dr;
I’m still waiting for fractal leaderboards…..
You get 40 tokens upon completing the dungeon once a day and 20 tokens per run (not including diminishing returns). You don’t get tokens from chests. On the bottom right corner of your inventory there is a “+” sign. click it to open your character wallet which will have all these tokens stored.
Best way to get these low level drops is to do story mode on dungeons. Run CM story mode and you will be drowning in cotton scraps.
Would make a cool back piece.
To be honest Idk even what the spider queen looks like. Back before the spot was being used I ranged it just dodging pools because its not hard (yeah, terrible scrub, but even I learned eventually), never got a good look at it because i just targeted and paid attention to red circles while spamming ranged attacks, and then when we fought it legit (whatever that means) in melee all i saw were sparkles of effects, now that the sparkles can be toned down everybody fights in the spot that is hard to see anything will due to how the camera and clipping works.
As for stacking not being intended. Even the Anet employees run the dungeons where stacking is most common, they have to know about the specific spots. When they were highlighting the wallet one of the vids about it showed a large number of tokens from dungeons where its the norm to stack, some even where its expected to get on “can’t hurt me” positions. They put in OBVIOUS spots to LoS or jump onto, some of which wouldn’t take long to delete (they spent time removing the get out of the map stuff in CM, if they thought stacking was bad they would get rid of frost’s rock or the safe box too).
She looks like a spider just to let you know.
Well if fractal leader boards are any indication of the possibilities we could have, no thank you.
We have a winner.
How could standing in one spot mashing some buttons be skill? :P
Doesn’t every computer game boil down to mashing buttons?
Don’t be daft! It takes years to get skills like these
in hushed tone quiet fool or they’ll be on to us!
Why would you want to spread out?
You need to be near other people to get them up if they go down
combo fields encourage close proximity play
you can dodge while you are stacked, in fact you are SUPPOSED to
If stacking is bad, then so is ranging and kitingthere is no real punishment for clumping up, and don’t expect any dungeon over hauls the deves are too busy planning what Scarlet will do next.
Also see Ethic’s post
/thread over
This post fits perfectly with the mentality that the current system has bred.
Exactly, there is no need to spread out now.
Also, combo fields encourage ranged play as well with projectile/blast finishers, pet/illusion finishers, etc, so that is moot.
Also, if it wasn’t clear, I’m not arguing for strict ranged combat…just to change the current system that rewards skilless play.
If you think this system rewards skill-less play, then I’d like you to compare your average pug melee zerker experience to a dungeon guild speed clear experience, go ahead and watch any DnT, LOD, Kr or rT video, then compare to pugs.
See the difference? Yeah, that’s called “skill”.
How could standing in one spot mashing some buttons be skill? :P
yeah i gave up on those… ironically i had better luck getting precursors (got 3rd today) than this weps…lol
I hate you…
(This is sarcasm since I’ve played over 2500 hrs no pre drops and more than 600g into the mystic toilet.)
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Its only been 5 months of us asking for this change…
This issue has been known since the launch of the game. Scarlet is much too important for any real bug fixes.
Source? Go to the very firsts posts and look at all the red posts that are still problems today.
….. they said knowing the boss mechanics helped immensely.
Imagine that… Knowledge is power.
I’ve gotten either an ascended box (weapon or armor), infused ring, or fractal weapon each time I’ve completed a 49. I’ve done about 10 of them so far and I’m 10/10. Looks like they increased to rate to me.
Hey, the dev’s used it, must be good.
Should be a rule “No text allowed” post videos. I wanna see some of these fails.
NO he’s right. Why should he have to advertise he is running a sub standard build when our mantra is “Play how you want”. The amount of damage done is irrelevant if the dungeon is completed.
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The amount of damage done is very relevant. It affects how long it takes to complete a dungeon and can also measure the success of the group depending on everyone else’s class and build.
I believe the success of the group is determined by the completion of the dungeon, not by how long it took.
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NO he’s right. Why should he have to advertise he is running a sub standard build when our mantra is “Play how you want”. The amount of damage done is irrelevant if the dungeon is completed.
I can understand where the OP is coming from, Imagine OP is just leveling their first character, and they started as an asura they clear metrica, then brisban, and then move through Kessex and into Gendarran, they notice they have gotten a letter in the mail inviting them to do their first dungeon, at this point in the game they may have never really spent any time in their home city or done any of their personal story, meaning they might not know about asura gates (It’s still quite a hike from gendarran to plains of ashford) and the ease of travel to get to AC from their starting city. What I’m saying is that you don’t have to agree with them, but you could attempt to understand where they are coming from and give them advice to help them with their problems (I know this is difficult in the dungeon forums as many of you guys have repeatedly gotten infractions, been kicked from dungeons you were selling (making you lose out on profit), and general mocking from people you were trying to help)
The infamous double parenthesis. I feel like I just got incepted. :P
The internet is a wonderful tool with many resources about the game. A simple google search will yield plenty of information regarding your search.
TL;DR; Embrace knowledge.
I guess what I’m asking is, would you like to see areanet move away from this in future dungeons? Are you guys satisfied with stacking during encounters? Yes I understand if there is an easier method or faster means of getting through a dungeon everyone will tag along, but was this always visioned by the devs? Or am I being hopeless
I’ve thought about the “intendedness” (is that even a word?) of the dungeons and there are few things they can do to fix stacking but this would just introduce other problems.
The fundamentals of the NPC AI would need to change which would require a significant overhaul to their engine. They have neither the time nor the resources to do such a task.
What we want are smart mobs but due to limitations to processing power, AI implementation, and the human element they are unable to achieve what we want. It’s not their fault. No dev studio has solved this problem and we are asking for the impossible at the moment.
Regardless of what the developers intended, we are still able to stack, exploit, and innovate new ways of playing the content. If you don’t like it, we won’t stop you but don’t expect everyone to play with you as well.
Let me help you understand where stacking comes from using a simple real world example.
In math classes throughout your life you are posed with problems that you must solve. In this case we begin with learning how to add and subtract. Once you get the core concept down repeating those same concepts repeatedly becomes tedious and monotonous (or boring). We can speed up the calculation of the problems by using a calculator (or stacking in this case). Since we have not had any new dungeons added since launch, (permanent additions) repeatedly running the same encounters has become tedious or monotonous (or boring). We use stacking as a means to quickly complete content that has been experienced time and time again.
If adding is too simple of an example, then extrapolate the example to a calculus problem or differential problem.
Point in case. If you don’t know the reason why you stack then probably stacking is not going to help you in that case.
Okay let’s see you solo Horace and the 3 champions that comes before with full zerk and glass build.
Let’s see you do it first.
I can’t believe people would sell a dungeon path. With all the lucrative champ farming going on, why wouldn’t people just do that for gold? Selling paths ruins the community because it desensitizes people to the idea of selling services.
TL;DR; Path selling is wrong because it ruins my immersion.
Ohhh nooooo. Now people have to play the encounter as intended…
Buyers don’t get to make demands.
….
People put up a big enough stink about flamekissed armor on Reddit/Forums and it was changed. Why can’t this issue be next?
Because this issue doesn’t affect their revenue stream…
You have to pray to RNGesus.
If you were truly sorry you would have given up your own spot…
Let’s face it: no one actually encounters scripted agony and tell themselves “wow that’s cool I am so glad they implemented this!”
It’s bad.
It went more like this…
“Wow it just keeps coming. Looks like they gear checked fractals now.”
I have mixed feelings about scripted agony. On one hand its nice to have a gear check so at least you can’t survive without the required gear (infusions in this case) keeping inexperienced players from harder content.
On the other hand since it isn’t avoidable there is no skill involved. All I need to do to avoid scripted agony is have the required AR and face tank the attack.
One thing I really liked about the patch was the Mossman Instability. Now that is an agony attack you can dodge AND you have to be aware when he pops in.
Just my 2 cents… back to 1hour flood control
I cried a little inside seeing the OP’s picture.
how do you know?
Back in the day when the staff Final Rest was “in the game” it really wasn’t. The devs kept telling us it was patch after patch until one day they said they fixed it once and for all. Wanna know how many Final Rest’s were found that day? Like 50. We can use simple statistics to determine how probable it is to receive an item. Given the number of players playing high level fractals a box should have dropped by now.
It’s not in the game yet…
3 words, supply and demand. People want to do Arah but might not have the means. People have the means and want to capitalize. Boom marry the two and you have a beautiful system where someone can offer their services and be compensated. It takes 2 to tango. Peanut butter goes great with jelly. Two peas in a pod. If people weren’t willing to pay I can guarantee there wouldn’t be sellers.
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