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I would like this as well, then I can fast place WvW sige

Same happen to me.

if you want to know my more defensive build it’s currently full zerk-gear with zerk orbs and a 0/0/10(Dont remember what trait)/30(Vigor on shatter, remove condi on heal, AoE shatter condi removal)/30(Reflection on Distortoion, Reset shatter 50%, shatter on self).

Pros, still constant vigor if you constant shatter (half con, since it’s dependent on shattering)
Damage is ok, not the best but survial is better, and can cleanse pretty much condi all time.
Greater survival than a normal full zerk shatter. osicats heavy build may be better
Condi cleansing on allies.
Can change for heal on shatter if needed.

cons.
No clone on dodge, makes it less clone spamming.
Still a bit squishy.

for now I can’t come up with any more cons, but there are still some flaws in this build
and I am still changing stuff in it.

Things I am going to try change is to play without IP-trait and with DE traited, since it will help alot more in clone spamming.

EDIT, may been a bit off topic xD

The idea is like you get like rank 15(20?) (wvw) and you unlock like rabbit finisher, then next is rank 70(deer) or something, cause the scaling is needed to be like the same as pvp ranking, but since it’s scaled differently it’s a bit harder to calculate.

I’ll do some calculations to get a average pvp rank gain from 1 hour and then average wxp rank gain from 1 hour, compare the ammount, and then check how many points you need for “deer” to “dolyak”, make a compare to the equal amount of WvW ranks to pvp ranking.

I surely can’t be the only one on this point…

when I run my full zerker build it’s ~15k no wvw buffs(16k with buffs). Later while not liking it, I moved to a fullzerker with defensive traited shatter spec. I’m ~18k, can’t check exact numbers, since I can’t play atm.

Cliffsidefractal-hammer, using Mirror images or decoy, does not create clones, nor using dodge on clone trait, possible for other environmental weapons. This issue ruins most of shatter builds, making us lose damages on bursts while using the hammer/environmentalweaps.

bump, no one thinks the same?

Now the only way to unlock finishers is by either buy them “the non unlocked” from Gem store, and you can earn PvP finishers by doing PvP. But people use PvP finisher in WvW, so why not add so you can unlock them “PvP finishers” from WvW?

Yes, I’m using pretty much full zerk with staff works, the conditions are just to AMP I-Warlock damage. Gs is still more DPS. But I’m using staff cause of defensive abilities.

Screenshot shows it all. It happens randomly during the last boss, and last boss ONLY

Racial finishers, unique for each race, I would like that.

Guild finisher, shows guild emblem. or something.

And able to show, other currencies in the inventory bar, like Badges of honor, Dungeon tokens etc. with toggle buttons. I still want to see my karma amount when opening inventory example, which they removed now :/.

Veil is now light, so it can be removed from the list.

You managed to miss these? or it’s intended?

1.Possible to do it a grandmaster trait.

2. I am not sure, but 4 blasts for a shatter it pretty op, so a random from one of the clones /you (IP-traited), or something like this Shatter now acts like a combo blast, with 15 second(more added if needed) ICD, it would be a possibility.

3. Or on daze shatter, makes one clone proc blast field, and the rest not, since Daze is on 34.5 sec when traited it sounds not that Op. it’s still one blast every 34.5 seconds. Unless you use [signet of illusions to reset it]/[trait for reset on 50% hp], therefore the 15sec ICD.

I’m wondering if it’s possible for a blast finisher on shatter f1, but I think it may be way too strong. So why not discuss it.

I’m thinking it will only apply for the first clone that hits the enemy, or yourself traited with Illusionary Persona. This would make us have two blasts, one from Torch, and one from shatters. Could be on Daze or something with longer CD if it’s sounds way to Op.

As said just a suggestion

I never said haha. just said it took long time.
I also said it was a good camp fight.

Zumy.6318:

UnknownFreak.2805:

I must say, a Very nice 3v9 fight at The spiritholme, well started as a 3v5 or something, but Still, Kudos for taking so long killing us

And that is why people laugh at your corpse.

It was not laughing at my corpse at the 3 RoF vs 9 Ar fight, that laughing was earlier when your 25 man zerg or something rushed to defend bay against our zerg attacking south gate. I was near the garrison sentry. Going to flip northen bay camp to stop supply flow.

Edit. Did I forgot to mention I’m a RoF…?

Also we knew the 3v9 fight was impossible, but we killed like 4 of you. So stop laughing and do /bow instead, more respect for a good fight. /cheer also works.

/emote “was a good fight” do that next time.

I must say, a Very nice 3v9 fight at The spiritholme, well started as a 3v5 or something, but Still, Kudos for taking so long killing us

Special thanks to the AR-sylvari Recruit that laughs at my corpse when killing me with their entire zerg.

Not sure what I should say.

Amadan.9451:

take the icy runestones as an example, it’s true that you don’t buy them every day, but this is not an excuse to make me click on a button and a confirmation pop up 100 times!! for a total of 200 clicks plus moving the mouse to the pop up

How about moving the “Vendor” buy dialogue, so you can just spam press buy/accept.

For once I was happy to command in our BL retaking our hills from the French, also a lot of them was new to WvW and they did listen to what I said. Everything went smooth, even tho it was no enemies in the keep. After flipping, we move on towards bluelake, which is sieged up. After some raging ppl start get that they are not supposed to stand in AC fire xD, Nor they did not listen to my command of stacking up. I told them what they did wrong, and we moved on defending briar from Dzag. Most of them was pushed away by our other commander. And we go to camp and repair the gate, move around retaking camps, and defending a little. Siegerazor at Briar… Cmon. I’m pretty sure ppl will die alot here. But there was a surprise. They nicely stacked on me when I told them to. And followed me as I wanted.

Things may change in RoF. Just not sure when it will take a turn.

If I’m not mistaken it only apply 5 second of retal, and nothing more. no rebuff or anything just the 5 sec at clone (phantasm) summon.

+1 for Linux client.

Nuka Cola.8520:

UnknownFreak.2805:

Nuka Cola.8520:

UnknownFreak.2805:

Full zerk with 0/0/10/30/30 – shatter, is my new build, I planned this a time ago, and today I tried it.

Pros:
1k shatter heal (no clones) -> 8k shatter heal combo (3clone shatter, make 3 more next shatter etc.)
Still good damage.
Survival is good.
Some dmg redux
Heal removes conditions.(1)
Good support.
Can solo camps(WvW) easy.
Survive retal burst while doing sw #3-> #2, Shatter combo.

Cons:
No clone on dodge
Not 60%+ crit chance nor 100%+ crit dmg.
The way I use, still no AoE heal support. (can change traits for that if needed)

The testing (WvW) Enemy guard, and ele. Both tried to take me down, but my shatter and heal combo, slowly drained them both. Ally(ele) comes and helps (he dies, not my problem) The guardian and Ele still struggle to take me down, I down the Guardian. Stomping him, with a stomp-start (staff#2) (Shatter #4) and blink once I almost land the finisher. Kills him, start dueling the ele, and a ally thief comes and forces the ele run away.

No DE and no perma Vigor for shatter builds is kinda bad, plus you don’t have boon stripping. Instead of changing builds and make one that is kinda meh when it comes to clone spamming (which is needed for shatter) and damage wise, try to change your current weapon sets (if the main reason you made this build is necro condis). Try GS/Staff (you need to get used to this combo tho cuz most everyone use sword/X+staff or gs all day every day), its MUCH easier to solo necs on double ranged weapons. With three stun breakers, two stealth (mi/decoy) its pretty hard to lose to a nec even with their current condi melting builds.

Trust me, I know what I did. And necro is not that hard anyways. and it’s not for necro only. it’s a overall healing on shatter, for survival in group play in WvW.

Well i wouldn’t go as far as saying “necros aren’t that hard” when on this same forum section and spvp section i’ve seen tones of people asking how to deal with a necro as a mesmer and see people suggestion such as “don’t solo them” lol but hey, you do what you want

I’m sorry for saying that they are easy, it’s different in WvW and pvp, I know how to deal with most necro, sometimes I fail against them, but usually not a big deal., it’s more of a “WvW hold of a few enemies until help arrives build.” But I get your point.

Sorry for posting here in the first place then.

Nuka Cola.8520:

UnknownFreak.2805:

Full zerk with 0/0/10/30/30 – shatter, is my new build, I planned this a time ago, and today I tried it.

Pros:
1k shatter heal (no clones) -> 8k shatter heal combo (3clone shatter, make 3 more next shatter etc.)
Still good damage.
Survival is good.
Some dmg redux
Heal removes conditions.(1)
Good support.
Can solo camps(WvW) easy.
Survive retal burst while doing sw #3-> #2, Shatter combo.

Cons:
No clone on dodge
Not 60%+ crit chance nor 100%+ crit dmg.
The way I use, still no AoE heal support. (can change traits for that if needed)

The testing (WvW) Enemy guard, and ele. Both tried to take me down, but my shatter and heal combo, slowly drained them both. Ally(ele) comes and helps (he dies, not my problem) The guardian and Ele still struggle to take me down, I down the Guardian. Stomping him, with a stomp-start (staff#2) (Shatter #4) and blink once I almost land the finisher. Kills him, start dueling the ele, and a ally thief comes and forces the ele run away.

No DE and no perma Vigor for shatter builds is kinda bad, plus you don’t have boon stripping. Instead of changing builds and make one that is kinda meh when it comes to clone spamming (which is needed for shatter) and damage wise, try to change your current weapon sets (if the main reason you made this build is necro condis). Try GS/Staff (you need to get used to this combo tho cuz most everyone use sword/X+staff or gs all day every day), its MUCH easier to solo necs on double ranged weapons. With three stun breakers, two stealth (mi/decoy) its pretty hard to lose to a nec even with their current condi melting builds.

Trust me, I know what I did. And necro is not that hard anyways. and it’s not for necro only. it’s a overall healing on shatter, for survival in group play in WvW.

forgot to say I run Sw/sw and staff. I miss vigor on crit and DE but it’s working as excepted.
Utils are MI, and decoy, blink.

Edit: I’m still testing and I know the basics of a shatter build, this is a bit random shatter build not including Vigor and DE traits.

Then they need to fix the tooltip. it say on CAST, not on charge.

Trait # Restorative Mantras Heal allies when casting a mantra does not work is it when you “Charge it” or when to cast the “Charged” skill ( like Power return)?

Pretty sure it’s when you cast it and not charge it.

Well I tested the healing in LA (lost 8k by juming fall damage, and did a 8 clone shatter combo) it got ~8k healing.

Edit. Which Cleansing trait you talking about?

Edit2: Sorry for off topic, but think we may have one of the best heals as well then.

Would this work 30((Some trait) , VII, XI)/0/10 (IV)/30(IV,X , XI)/0.

Mantra setup with Mantra Heal, And atleast one mantra on utility. would this give good ally heal and good condi cleansing on yourself and allies?

Edit3. Is boon stripping also AoE?

Full zerk with 0/0/10/30/30 – shatter, is my new build, I planned this a time ago, and today I tried it.

Pros:
1k shatter heal (no clones) -> 8k shatter heal combo (3clone shatter, make 3 more next shatter etc.)
Still good damage.
Survival is good.
Some dmg redux
Heal removes conditions.(1)
Good support.
Can solo camps(WvW) easy.
Survive retal burst while doing sw #3-> #2, Shatter combo.

Cons:
No clone on dodge
Not 60%+ crit chance nor 100%+ crit dmg.
The way I use, still no AoE heal support. (can change traits for that if needed)

The testing (WvW) Enemy guard, and ele. Both tried to take me down, but my shatter and heal combo, slowly drained them both. Ally(ele) comes and helps (he dies, not my problem) The guardian and Ele still struggle to take me down, I down the Guardian. Stomping him, with a stomp-start (staff#2) (Shatter #4) and blink once I almost land the finisher. Kills him, start dueling the ele, and a ally thief comes and forces the ele run away.

@My sweet Lilly

The current pvp build I run.

20(I,III)/20(II,X)/0/0/30(I,III,X)

Staff and sw/sw

Zerker amulet.

Prec. stacking on staff, and Force, Purity sigil on Swords.

Runes: rune of the air (6/6)

Last time I ran pvp it worked fine for me, I think one death or two during the match. and it was after the trait changes and sword nerf.

I am mostly in WvW, and sometimes in pvp that’s why I am not 100% sure it will be working ok.

Edit.
Utils: Mirror images, decoy and blink, Either moa, or Mass invis as Elite. Ether feast as healing.

You call me crappy player…?

Edit:
The video does not prove anything.
1. two thief’s that use their elite (Dagger Storm)
2. They’re pretty much at half HP already.
3. All enemy players, seem to be either afk, or mentally “kitten”.

Reflection on distortion trait. nothing wrong with the trait or so, but the visible effect is way longer than distortion. Screen mostly shows the issue.

Nice vid

Is it possible to do a condi/tough/healing- based build?, cause I may have a nice test build on going.

The traits are 0/0/10 (IV)/30 (IV, (U*) , XII)/30(IV,U**, *XI) – defined- for shatter heal, and condi.

U*, VII, VIII or X
U** VI or X

What I want, much toughness, healing, with condi damage if possible.

Still thinking a little. but this seems a good start

@zombye, I don’t think so.

Btw. Full zerk 10 (I)/30 (II, IV, X)/0/0/30(I, III, XI) – shatter so fun.

Runes = Ruby orbs x.X

Only con is that it’s not the optimal in outnumbered situations. (unless you know how to play).

Mainly play this in WvW zerg fights, usually never die, so it works.

I’m actually collecting for my legendary so not that much experimenting with builds.

But since I’m a commander I’m thinking a Shatter inspired heal build, I’m still planning a bit on the details.

You know what. I killed a thief once.

Nretep.2564:

neither are ingame tooltips.

If the tooltips are incorrect why the hell even have them?!

No changes whatsoever. All skills are fine and don’t need to be messed with.

edit

- Counter blade. I suppose it’s Mirror blade. Yeah, make a 5 target daze skill with a 8 s cooldown. Seems legit to me…

No it’s sword offhand #4

Illusion of live is bugged, the Wiki
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Illusion_of_life

And a screenshot of the tooltip.

EDIT: Allies will only temporarily be rallied unless they kill an enemy before Illusion of Life wears off. If they do not rally, they will be downed again. Sounds like there is a chance like vengeance skill not to proc rally.

I’m running 10/30/0/0/30 shatter build (full zerker) works fine if you know how to take the guard aggro etc.

I’m sorry if I started this complain so I’ll just stay the hell out of this place D;, JK, but I overreacted a bit, and I have to admit I regret it now. Hope the rest of this matchup is getting this good as it is.

RoF…. is the new vabbi…. for 4 minutes trying to get some ppl to defend garrison… we end up losing it with 5 ppl defending.

probably going to be infracted for this thing.

kitten THIS MATCHUP!

Physical Chess.6145:

This is a bug I’ve noticed for months. If you use feigned surge and at the very end of its run(last instant) you press feign you get two clones. The easiest way to produce this is to use feigned surge and check your purple clone indicator circles until one gets filled, then immediately press 2 again and you’ll go back and have an extra clone that you shouldn’t. This isn’t too big a deal but can be used in underwater fights to have one more clone you shouldn’t for shatters and such.

I think it’s working as intended, but can’t tell.

Downing a 75% hp necro, and kills him while downed, is my best fight.

I’d like to add possible CD bug between blink, decoy and Portal entre.

How to reproduce

Blink somewhere to get CD on blink, change either portal to decoy, or decoy to portal.

Is this a bug or working as intended?

I’m running pretty much full zeker (with a little tough and vital), works for me.

Also noticed this, even tho we are green, but the yak event is bugged at SM door, if you go there you can see defend/kill yak event but no yak. Something is bugged in the event.

I give a screen on this bug.

The screen should give enough information.

Very Impressive. I am also almost there (almost 6%)

You sure?, cause it may be skill lag.

I’m not re-rolling, I want a challenge, and besides the nerf was coming sooner or later. Besides mesmers should be hard to play.

@Tom van Leuwen, I also get tired of zergs, I usually take a break or do some pve/solo something hard, just to get feeling I’m still able to control my skills. And taking breaks is the best way to cool down from annoying enemies. I still need to learn to slow down my shatters.. I shatter almost all time, to get damage fighting like crazy but I never seem to be able to do good larger group fights.

That’s my next step. Learn alot more when enemy uses “Dangerous” attacks and not evade the low damage attacks. I’m taking it slow, and I find it rather Ok. And I am still looking for my small group roaming. I do not like big ZvZ fights. I can handle them, but they seem to end quickly, for that size. Flanking and sneaking is my style

My best sneak was a T3 (1700 supply) keep with 7 ppl (3golems).