Guild Wars 2

MithranArkanere.8957:

I don’t like some of the things they are doing, but things like this move GW2 more towards the original GW spirit….

BUT! They should add a way for characters to check better the things they’ve already done. For example:

- Maps:

• Champions: Adding a small gravestone icon for each defeated champion. Nothing for those you have never defeated, so you still have to find them. This will only mark those you have already done. The icon would be as small as the karma vendor icon so it isn’t very intrusive.
• World bosses: Adding an open chest icon for each completed world boss event.
  Players can hide these icons like any other.

- Dungeons:
Chaning the dungeon icons so they show what you’ve done:

• Closed door or Inactive asura gate: You’ve never done this dungeon.
• Open door o active asura gate: You have completed story mode for this dungeon.
• Closed chest: You’ve completed all paths, but none today.
• Colored open chest: You have completed some paths today.
• Grayed open chest: You have completed all paths for this dungeon today. This icon won’t pop in the map when zoomed out like dungeon icons do now.
• Hover over a dungeon icon, all paths are listed there with an icon next to them.
  • Grayed closed chest: You’ve never done this path.
  • Colored closed chest: You’ve done this once, but not today.
  • Colored open chest: You’ve done this path today.

I think this would be an amazing idea i have a bunch of alts so this would be very helpful. However since we just got the account wallet that holds all our currencies i would say we might get something like this in a year or two or never. Also we still don’t have an in-game dungeon finder.

MithranArkanere.8957:

Uther Deathhand.1570:

MithranArkanere.8957:

WXP is not a currency, you can’t spend it.

Technically you do spend it on wvw mastery lines. Unless you use some other term when you use them.

You could say you are not ‘spending them’, but ‘assigning’ them.
More than you exchanging a currency for goods and services, you are assigning points to to unlock the skills. The points are ‘still there’. Permanently, but still there.

But you can’t get the points back so they are “spent”.

Ben K.6238:

Uther Deathhand.1570:

I agree i think that this is going to be like traps in wvw and people will hardly ever use them. Also portal is not an elite skill its just a tier 3 utility.

On the contrary, it now means perma-stealth thieves have a reason to stay in keeps. At present the best they’ve got is resurrecting dead mesmers from stealth, which is much easier to stop.

Give something with permanent invisibility the ability to portal people in, and you’re going to get towers, keeps and Stonemist flipping like burgers.

Oh balls your right. guess i better go retrait my thief for perma stealth Seriously with this in mind i really hope that it is not allowed in WvW. Just seems like its too powerful.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Uther Deathhand.1570:

SynfulChaot.3169:

No. Not fixed. There have been some mistakes, but none this badly designed. Please don’t put words in my mouth and I won’t do the same to you. Thanks.

Sorry didn’t mean to be disrespectful but i think that there have been many other times where it felt like we as the general player base where the actual testers of new content not ones playing tested and proven content. Again sorry if what i said was disrespectful, i was joking thinking you were being sarcastic about Anets testing history.

Nah. I’ve not yet seen anything before T4 trials that seems so badly tested and so 100% contrary to the feeling of GW2.

All the other content, even if it was slightly bugged, was still doable by most party composition if the players were skilled. This was the first case where you really must be running glass cannon spec, or near to it, just to complete the content. Meaning if you don’t have a chara geared right, you might be completely SOL. This is the first case where your gearing and spec matters more than your skill. And that’s a bloody shame.

Actually with what you just said i completely agree. Like you said there have been things that got messed up but your right, this content requires you to have a very very specific set of armor/trinkets and even than you have to play in a way that just doesn’t feel right. I have completed it once solo on a full zerker warrior and i think that was mostly cause i got lucky with spawns and such. Also there is no way that you can actually fight the other pirates and complete this.

/Cheers My thief is eagerly waiting.

eekzie.5640:

Gabby.3205:

Hah, and I had just started farming CoF P1 like a week ago. Not my cup of tea, but I have a tough time making gold by doing what I really like to do (that would be running around with a zerg in WvW).
Well, back to the Fractals.

And now the champions will give you an extra reward.

Now I’d be curious if capping different towers would each reward you. That’d be nice.

I hope that tower/keep/castle lords are included in this champion update, more rewards for WvW is never a bad thing.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Uther Deathhand.1570:

SynfulChaot.3169:

Let us all hope not because that is the first piece of truly badly tested content in all of GW2.

Fixed that for you

No. Not fixed. There have been some mistakes, but none this badly designed. Please don’t put words in my mouth and I won’t do the same to you. Thanks.

Sorry didn’t mean to be disrespectful but i think that there have been many other times where it felt like we as the general player base where the actual testers of new content not ones playing tested and proven content. Again sorry if what i said was disrespectful, i was joking thinking you were being sarcastic about Anets testing history.

MithranArkanere.8957:

WXP is not a currency, you can’t spend it.

Technically you do spend it on wvw mastery lines. Unless you use some other term when you use them.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Uther Deathhand.1570:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

In testing we ensured that every profession can complete the gauntlet.

Is this the usually kind of testing……….like the one that produced the candidate trials tier 4 mayhem we have right now?

Let us all hope not because that is the latest piece in a line of truly badly tested content in all of GW2.

Fixed that for you

Poki.8235:

Martin Kerstein.3071:

Depositing coins into the bank is no longer possible.

Mmmm…. could I ask for this feature to come back in a later patch? (since I realize it’s probably too late to do anything about it now).

I like depositing gold in my back so I don’t accidentally spend it. I already had an incident once when I bought a pair of Heavy Tier 3 Cultural Boots on my Thief :/ (this was before you added a warning before buying those. I still have them in my bank as a reminder and in hopes that I can get my money back one of these days…)

Guild bank man GUILD BANK, it is the new personal (stopping me from messing up and losing a lot of money) bank.

Eidola.9148:

The fact is it very rare and takes “considerable resources” to create is why I don’t think it really impacts the fact it is “copying” the mesmer elite skill.

I agree i think that this is going to be like traps in wvw and people will hardly ever use them. Also portal is not an elite skill its just a tier 3 utility.

Cranapple.5637:

I think the account wallet is a great addition. However, I do share similar concerns with other players. I also try to keep my currencies separated to prevent myself from spending too much. Will we still be able to transfer money from our account wallet to our banks or will we have to rely solely on personal guild banks? I will be so sad if we can’t deposit gold into our banks anymore. It’s my precursor savings fund!

You will have to rely on your personal guild bank. From what the devs are saying the personal bank is being taken out (meaning its ability to hold gold). Good thing i have a full vault/trove so i can split the money 4 ways if i want. I suggest other people that have concerns about all your money being available to you at all times invest in a personal guild bank. I takes 5 gold converted to influence to get the first vault.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

In testing we ensured that every profession can complete the gauntlet.

Is this the usually kind of testing……….like the one that produced the candidate trials tier 4 mayhem we have right now?

StarbornStriker.6493:

Khisanth.2948:

So every character is always carrying all the gold I’ve ever gotten in the game? I’ve already asked this in the other thread but the convenience really doesn’t seem to be worth the drawback. The rest of the change is nice but removing gold storage from the bank is not that great. It just takes one extra keypriss/misclick to basically burn all your gold and I already know what the support response is going to be for something like that.

I second this. My one and only complaint about this change. Depositing the majority of my money in the bank is a safety mechanism. I love the idea of not having to run all the way back to the bank to withdraw money, but at the same time I’d rather do that than accidentally click away my savings.

I just remembered if you have a personal guild with a bank you can store money in there to protect it from yourself. That is what i’m going to do.

Khisanth.2948:

So every character is always carrying all the gold I’ve ever gotten in the game? I’ve already asked this in the other thread but the convenience really doesn’t seem to be worth the drawback. The rest of the change is nice but removing gold storage from the bank is not that great. It just takes one extra keypriss/misclick to basically burn all your gold and I already know what the support response is going to be for something like that.

I know what you mean. This actually has me a little scared. I know not to long ago i was playing wvw and some one got Emberglow as a drop (scepter that is worth about 5 gold) i usually look things up on the TP so i did with this one as well. The sell orders come up first as usual and i go to click the button to see the buy orders. A tiny bit of lag later and i now own an Emberglow. Now this was only 5 gold so no big deal but if i have a couple hundred gold that now I’m forced to have on character im just waiting to see the QQ threads of people messing up. Also right now i only keep one gold on each of my characters and the rest in my bank so something like that can’t happen again. Well i guess ill just have to be extra careful with what i’m doing after this patch.

OK worrying aside thank you very very much Anet, we have been asking for this wallet thingy for a long time and it is great to see it actually happen. Now i can put other things on my mules.

SynfulChaot.3169:

I think the real question is what new farming method is going to replace CoF P1 for maximum gold income by actually playing the game. I am quite curious as to what people think will replace it.

I think it will still be dungeons but we will now see groups form calling for CoF 1-2, CoE 1-2-3, maybe HotW whatever and maybe a few arah paths depending on how the gold is distributed with dungeons. ( might be better to do other dungeons for the gold/hour).
There is not really anything in the pve world that i know of that will trump dungeons.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Uther Deathhand.1570:

Maliel.8362:

Where is your god now farmers?!!

Its called the black lion trading company. I mean that is the last place that people can make a lot of money and anet can’t nerf that right?……Right? I don’t really see why people freak out so much about CoF 1 farming but no one thinks about Tp flipping. I guess its because technically TP flipping actually takes money out of the game while CoF puts money in.

Possibly because some of us hate TP flipping and think it should be disallowed. I consider all TP flippers to be unrepentant leeches on the system and you will never be able to convince me otherwise.

Yeah as others like yourself have said i dont think the most rewarding thing in the game should require a spreadsheet, and technically you are not even playing the game. The problem is anet can’t change it in anyway with out messing up the whole system. i mean are they going to limit how many trades each person can do each day? Or put a money cap on the number of trades?

Maliel.8362:

Where is your god now farmers?!!

Its called the black lion trading company. I mean that is the last place that people can make a lot of money and anet can’t nerf that right?……Right? I don’t really see why people freak out so much about CoF 1 farming but no one thinks about Tp flipping. I guess its because technically TP flipping actually takes money out of the game while CoF puts money in.

Yes you can constantly run CoF to get cash everytime at least for now. Colin (the game director said they are going to change the system of rewards so this will be alot less viable.
Here is that article i suggest you read it since it gives a lot of information on the changes they plan to make.

You need to move the mini map. For some odd reason the loot is connected to the map so if you put it up top than you will always have the leave instance button open and able to be clicked.
To move the map move your cursor over it and on the right side there will be a panel the was a few buttons on it move your cursor over to that and when it becomes a hand click and drag it up to the top of the screen. also this is the same way you put it back down just drag it to the bottom.
This is a picture of the map and you can see the panel i am talking about.

Or you could represent? Evon for council…..mostly just want abaddon fractal but what ever.

Psychol.5783:

You clicked “accept changes” without noticing you hadn’t changed the character’s name yet?

So can I use it only for a test? to check how my character would look like and cancel operation and save my makeover kit?

Yes. The kit is not consumed until you confirm the changes.

Wild.3847:

do you guys mean an item like:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grandmaster%27s_Training_Manual

which you can buy for 2 gold?

Have you ever tried using two of the same tier on one character? Go ahead and try it than come tell us how it goes.
PS it doesn’t work.

Dub.1273:

Worst thing is having a shortbow. Rather afk on daggers than attack with shortbow.

I just did a run yesterday with a thief that just used shortbow…. the whole run. That was also a run where another warrior asked me why i go mostly zerker in CoF. I have to be honest after that run i got full zerker armor (had knights and some zerker trinkets) to just do speed runs.

Darthaemos.6370:

OP (right after killing the Effigy): “Wow! Take down a boss in melee with thief…that never happens…”

I’m not gonna lie, I cringed…

Yeah i chuckled a little bit, but remember he is new. Take some time to get the dodge timing down and learn mob mechanics to feel safe doing melee. Unless of course you are like me and just charge head first and hope you don’t die. Zerg surfing in wvw is fun.

FOR EVON!!!!!!!
PS: “for evon” will now replace “for narnia” for at least this patch.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The Royal Terrace will be a thing, but it’s not the thing you think it is.

Wait you know what i’m thinking? Ahhhhh scary. Anyway….. Cantha!!!!!

Pure Heart.1456:

I don’t believe there has ever been one sure-fire way to make gold in GW2, unless it has been via a gimmick—like CoF P1 with food buffs.

With that said, I have a question;

How is it possible for people to post items on the TP for prices in excess of 200G?

Rare dyes for example, are at that price and legendary weapons sit around the 1000G+ mark. After 1000 hours of play, I am just approaching the 200G mark myself, I can not comprehend how it is possible.

Play the trading post or run CoF or CoE for a while and you will see how they can do it. I have talked with people that play the TP and they say they can get a profit of about 40 to 50 gold a day. And no i don’t know how they are doing it, so don’t ask me.

Oroibahazopi.9074:

ya because real life war is so much fun

Well this is a game where you can revive so yeah war is fun. If you only had one life and than had to buy a new game to play more than it would not be fun.

cranked.3812:

Yeah, I prob should have searched.

Thanks for the help.

Don’t worry about it the search function on this forum is total crap anyway.

Furesy.6935:

Hmm, now I really wonder why that was in my head haha

If you’re a gw1 player than that might be why, cause you could only hold 100 platinum.

If you are using waypoints on a character that does not have enough copper/silver to cover the cost, than it will come out of your personal bank.

I have not done this myself but after reading others experiences you will lose the transmuted skin. This is because when you forge something the item is technically destroyed and a new one is made.

Xelarock.4972:

let me see if i understand this correctly, a character can only get 70 trait points and no more after lvl 80. whereas you can get skill points even past lvl 80. and you can refund your trait points at a trainer. let me know if this is correct thanks!

Yes all of that is correct.

Razor.9872:

A-net only has so many resources. They can’t possibly make both fractals at once, so they’re giving us the choice of which one we want first. Being understanding is the first step to being contempt.

Yeah i mean just because one living story team was able to make both of the story dungeons in the first half of the year doesn’t mean that 4 teams could make two fractals…..

It depends on your definition of “succeed”. If you mean having fun and still doing something productive than you can (and should) play with the weapons you like. However if you want to do the most damage or be the most productive your class can be than you will have to play with certain weapons. For example if you like the way mace/shield looks on a warrior than you will not get anywhere close to the dps of a greatsword.

Xhyros.1340:

LordByron.8369:

Raestloz.7134:

I hope now that they’ve tried to regulate CoF path 1, prices will drop bit by bit

considering cof1 is possibly not the main way of income.

Its boring and requires time.

Look at people in TP section discussing if the should move their 4000 gold stacks of a single item…..
and stuff like that.

Flipping is way more impacting.

Farewell cof1
Hello Coe1-2-3

all is good if they keep some way to have money :/ for non flippers.

If everyone migrates to CoE… TIME TO SELL ALL YOUR CHARGED CORES/LODESTONES! If they become as cheap as molten, I would be quite happy.

The thing is that people will not be migrating from CoF to CoE because these changes are universal so there will not really be any point in Farming a specific dungeon for hours on end. So charged will never go as low as molten.

randomfightfan.4091:

Could someone link where they say they’re removing gold drops from bosses please. If that’s actually happening I’ll just have to chalk it up to one more incredibly stupid decision made to nerf dungeons. Seriously, what a terrible idea.

From the blog post by Colin.
Coins will be removed from the current bosses (replaced by the champion reward box listed above) to coincide with this bonus payout for completing each path. And here is the whole Post

Empressium.5482:

will we get a refund for gold infusion?20 laurels isn’t cheap

I hope so i got 40 laurels invested in them.

Well the way it looks is that the gold will be coming out of a chest now so i agree gold infusions will lose a ton of there usefulness.

DEKeyzToChaos.7381:

Well, when combined with:

We want to remove the choice players are currently being forced to make on their gear: “Do I go with better stats, or better loot?” This isn’t in the spirit of cooperation that Guild Wars 2 is all about. As such, we’ll be removing magic find entirely as an item stat and turning it into account stat that improved the odds of rare drops for all your characters.

… I forsee the death of the omnom bar.

Well actually colin said that there was still going to be magic find consumables but im not sure if they are going to be made in to there own catagory. Also i think omnom bars are going to die anyway because the whole point of them is that you get 40% more gold from mobs which made a sizable difference in dungeons because of the bosses. Now all the gold is being moved to chests which are not affected by gold find.

Incase you didn’t read Colins post on the Official website here is the part i’m talking about.
Dungeon Complete Bonus Rewards
In order to make playing all of our unique dungeons more rewarding, we’ll give you a bonus gold reward for each dungeon path you complete each day. Coins will be removed from the current bosses (replaced by the champion reward box listed above) to coincide with this bonus payout for completing each path. Completion rewards will be guaranteed, and we’ll vary the amount of gold earned based on difficulty and length of each dungeon path.
To encourage players to participate in a wider array of dungeon content, we’ve designed the system so if you complete the same dungeon path twice in one day, you’ll receive the normal reward for completion, but won’t receive the bonus gold reward again during that day.
From this it looks like there will be no point in spending time doing cof more than once a day instead of running other dungeons. If by normal reward he means the end chest that give the gold, tokens, and experience than cof is not worth it to just get 20 silver each time. Personally i think this is good if they are able to really balance the rewards for much harder/longer dungeons so no matter what path you do your time:gold ratio is the same. Share your thoughts on this change and also how much do you think the CoF path 1 bonus gold is going to be.

Sure.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Anet has some good working relationships with Kiel, and should ask her to amend her promised offers, or step down and have someone else run. Everyone knows Evon is winning at this point. Cheaper keys. Better dungeons. Etc.

Maybe we’ll be allowed a write in candidate? #Foostivoo

Yeah it foostivoo ran everyone and there mother would vote. Even Evon would not stand a chance. Quaggans for the winz!!! Besides anet loves the battle between charr and humans ( nothing wrong with it, just saying)

Colin also said that the vote tokens drop from mobs in the open world.

TenClub.7659:

I’ll vote for the candidate with cheaper waypoints over the one with cheaper black lion keys =)

Remember that those only last for 4 weeks. I am voting for the fractal where we get to (hopefully) kill a freakin GOD. Or we will just witness it which i would still love.

Joseph Skyrim.2470:

You do that. Vote for the lying, silver-tongued, snake-nosed trickster from the city who dresses in scarlet clothing.

I will. Also remember that a lot of people are voting for the fractal.

kitten right you will Evon forever. Well really Abbadon fractal forever

JohnLShannonhouse.1820:

Edit: Okay, there was nothing in this resembling a swear. Why are the forums replacing my text with “kitten”? That is really annoying. “Kitten” replaced a string of text including the word “not” which changes it to the opposite meaning. I don’t want the forums editing my text to turn it into the opposite meaning.

I really wish that like the actual game all language was allowed and again like the game there was a filter so if need be people can still see the “kitten”. Really don’t understand this, is it something to do with it being a public and so free site to get to that does not allow this?

Lokki.1092:

skullmount.1758:

You want the Fall of ABbaddon go play GW1 Nightfall.

I know all there is to know about the fall of Abbaddon. He was being a kitten, I hit him with my sword over the course of many minutes… He fell.

I believe that the fall of Abbaddon they are talking about is the first time, not the one we as players experienced in gw1.