aaaand…let’s start this all over again..like 2 years ago…
problem is that ele (This time) is pretty balanced…celestial + might stacking isn’t…and not only on eles…
celestial amulet+might is the problem…not the single class abusing it..
Well, celestial amulet is not going anywhere. It seems. But that doesn’t mean anet should ignore how overly represented this class is. It needs to be brought down. If they won’t delete celestial then at least shave off the heal and regen that an ele gets when attuning to water.
You must be playing some other GW2 than everyone else.
You dont represent the gw2 population. Your argument is invalid.
You are asking for a very dangerous buff, my friend. But i like it.
Sincerely,
Spirit Ranger.
This class has gotten too much presence already and it’s getting boring. They need to be brought down already. I dont care if you people would say that it is a hard profession to play but the fact that it’s getting too much representation just serves my point that we need to nerf it. This class has too much regen that they don’t even need to use their healing skill. Why the hell do they have water attunement and a healing skill at the same time? That just doesn’t make sense. Please do something about this anet before you lose some players. Not everyone is interested to play this class.
Wrong thread lol
Ele needs a lot of shaving. Their regen is just too much to say it is balanced. If anet won’t shave the regen and heal that an ele gets when he goes water then at least shave their dps or increase the cd on their attune meant swap. This is the best way to make this class balanced.
No class should be able to constantly heal when they want to. This is just my opinion.
Ele needs a lot of shaving. Their regen is just too much to say it is balanced. If anet won’t shave the regen and heal that an ele gets when he goes water then at least shave their dps or increase the cd on their attune meant swap. This is the best way to make this class balanced.
Yeah close. But when a DR thief goes down, and needs to rally, then immediately jumps up with half to full health. Or when a solo necro stealths then teleports…you know something is fishy. If they have to cheat to win, hollow victory. Anet has to get serious about hackers.
Bullkitten. You are talking about some roamers who weren’t even contributing that much to the ppt . Just get good and stop crying and making false accusations.
Spirit ranger is already a bunker build so I guess a good comp would consist of 1 spirit bunker ranger for Rez and buffs, 1 bleed condi bunker ranger, 1 trap ranger, and 2 zerk longbow rangers for a 5 man group.
For a 10 man group, I would choose 2 spirit rangers to alternate in rezzing allies, 2 bleed condi ranger, 1 shout ranger, 1 trap ranger and 4 zerk longbow rangers.
pretty good post.
btw, i command in wvw using a spirit/condi/bunker build. it’s a frontline ranger build and it could take a lot of damage while giving a bit of support to my allies and also causing insane condi damage.
I feel like I know you... But that’s cool, spirits have never really worked out for me but I cmd with a BM build so to each his own.
we are from the same server. i was that ranger who was co-commanding with Nem last week. it was a lot of fun. i was able to cap the whole EB while i was commanding last week. lol
anyway, spirit ranger is awesome as long as you avoid the arrow carts. lol. i have used this build to command both small and large scale groups. imo, it is the best support build for rangers.
Ah see, you may not know this, but my unofficial name on DR is the Zerg Magnet so where I go... acs and blobs of red names follow... spirits can’t keep up but alright that’s cool that I’m not going crazy... small world!
I’m more of a ballista + cata type of commander. I make sure no ac is gonna hurt my spirit babies.
I use settler amulet only for spvp. for wvw, i use dire stuff for my armor pieces and trinkets, undead runes and a mixture of condi damage and defense on my infusions. Setup is 0 2 6 6 0. I put 2 on skirmishing to trait for sharpened edges on crits.
I use shortbow and axe+war horn as my weapons. for my utility skill, i use healing spring, sun spirit, stone spirit and signet of the hunt (i replace SOTH with other skills depending on the situation). elite is also situational.
sun spirit maybe the most important spirit that you need to use because it buffs your allies with burning and its active skill blinds your enemies with a pretty good radius. This build is an in your face build so you need to be very aggressive in fighting enemies.
pretty good post.
btw, i command in wvw using a spirit/condi/bunker build. it’s a frontline ranger build and it could take a lot of damage while giving a bit of support to my allies and also causing insane condi damage.
I feel like I know you… But that’s cool, spirits have never really worked out for me but I cmd with a BM build so to each his own.
we are from the same server. i was that ranger who was co-commanding with Nem last week. it was a lot of fun. i was able to cap the whole EB while i was commanding last week. lol
anyway, spirit ranger is awesome as long as you avoid the arrow carts. lol. i have used this build to command both small and large scale groups. imo, it is the best support build for rangers.
pretty good post.
btw, i command in wvw using a spirit/condi/bunker build. it’s a frontline ranger build and it could take a lot of damage while giving a bit of support to my allies and also causing insane condi damage.
spirit ranger is already a very strong build in spvp. all it needs is the storm spirit damage back and the previous proc on the sun spirit. anet nerfed it because of those noobs that cried about it.
this is the build that I use when I want to fight along with the people at the frontline. the purpose of the build is to buff my allies and provide them with healing and regen. this build is also strong in 1v1 and perfect in small scale roaming but can hold it’s own in zerg fights.
i would appreciate your comments about my build.
as a glass cannon ranger with RaO, you dont need that much stunbreaker and that build is extremely risky vs thieves. you need to get signet of beastmastery and equip signet of stone. by doing this, it will help you negate a thief’s burst and play offensively without taking any direct damage for 6 seconds. i’m not really a big fan of GS, that weapon is extremely slow and you need to be really close to your enemy that can be very dangerous. i suggest using shortbow instead, that weapon may be weak when it comes to direct damage but it has evade, stun/daze, poison, cripple and it is fast. shortbow is a warrior and thief’s bane. you can use it defensively and offensively at the same time. just use qz to burst its damage.
this is the build that i use when i want to go full zerk:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVTjMqUyaBLOsw1aA9AZdgDTYnp0IXRvYlTmA-TJBBwAVeCAAuEA12focZAA
btw, dont use RaO at the start of the fight, the thief will only steal your boons. use your longbow 1st, try to stealth 1st then hit him with the knockback arrow and then rapid fire. as soon as he stealths try to AOE arrows around you after a couple of seconds because he will surely try to backstab you. a d/p thief is usually the easiest class to kill on a zerk ranger.
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this is a bunker spirit build with warhorn.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBHhVakRlGW7VxZFiWDAIIrC0eWtYuX+MZFrkC-TJRAwAsLDA4JAwc/hAnCAA
you can still use two spirits. it really depends on your playstyle. i use stone and sun because i love the protection i can get from the stone spirit. the extra slot, i use signet of stone for extra tankiness but i often replace that with sic ’em if i see an overabundance of thieves and mesmers on the other team.
there are different variations of the spirit build and most of them are viable in tpvp. just play with the skill slots that you want to use but i advice you to use the elite spirit because that’s probably the best elite that rangers have.
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you guys have no idea how much eles got buffed after the patch. they have too much condition cleanse, regen, and mobility. it’s stupid. they can even stack might like crazy. they are the new braindead class in pvp.
Yeah I mean I don;t have a problem with them until there’s 3 or more pew pewing at me. Even worse is I’ll be in a nice 1v1 fight and all of a sudden my health starts dropping and I hear pew pew in the background. Then you try running away and they freaking chase you to the god kitten ends of the earth lol.
it’s because eles got this insane mobility that everybody hates. i really dislike eles after the patch. they can bunker and escape anytime they want. a bunker ranger has no option like that when it comes to 1v1. we stay in a fight to kill or be killed. that’s it.
What… you sure you aren’t talking about guardians? Ranger NEVER “loses” 1 v 1 because it can always peel out.
ele has far more mobility than any other class and they can sure tank like hell too with insane regen using water attunement (not even their allotted heal skill). a bunker spirit/condi ranger cannot chase a fleeing ele. i say gw2 buffed eles way too much. it needs some shaving. they cannot be tanky and fast at the same time.
shortbow is a pretty strong weapon. it’s completely usable for both zerk and condi builds. ^^,
playing naked on hotjoin on my necro and ranger and still killing baddies 1v1. troll moments are the best.
Yeah I mean I don;t have a problem with them until there’s 3 or more pew pewing at me. Even worse is I’ll be in a nice 1v1 fight and all of a sudden my health starts dropping and I hear pew pew in the background. Then you try running away and they freaking chase you to the god kitten ends of the earth lol.
it’s because eles got this insane mobility that everybody hates. i really dislike eles after the patch. they can bunker and escape anytime they want. a bunker ranger has no option like that when it comes to 1v1. we stay in a fight to kill or be killed. that’s it.
i was talking about team fights not 1v1. lol
a ranger’s purpose is to kill other players who kite and pressure and make sure the bunkers on his team survive.
when it comes to 1v1, it really depends on the player’s skill. the profession is insignificant.
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as a ranger, i mostly dislike eles and thieves that’s why i make sure they’d drop dead 1st on a team fight. just saying, ^^,
my pvp ranger’s new look
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ranger is best known as a home node defender. my build is a bit the same as My Sweet Lily’s but it’s a roamer type. it is insanely tanky and has insane Condi damage. warhorn is very useful when running from node to node.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBHhVakRlGW7VxZFiWDAIIrC0eWtYuX+MZFrkC-TJRAwAsLDA4JAwc/hAnCAA
no, it doesnt. you are trying to tell us a history about the meta that you obviously dont have enough knowledge. im gonna tell you this ranger has never been out of the meta. we are hanging by a thread now but the class is still in the meta. ranger was represented at the recent TOL and at the pax tourney in 2013, there was even a team that chose to run double ranger.
So I am a PVE player then am I? with over 2000 hours of nothing but pvp. I have about 150 gold, pretty much all the map left unknown, but all bar the guardian pvp titles and reaper ransacker etc. Yeah, oh and champion brawler for winning 1000 arena games.
Yeah, i am such a non-pvp player. Maybe in NA you guys struggle with ranger pets a few months ago (lol, before they even fixed them up, they are still easy to avoid).
Spirits had potential but only in a team utilising them. Double ranger was cheese that was always easy to beat, you simply watch a few streams of some players and assume thats how it really is. Talking utter nonsense.
stop lying. you just made a big fool out of yourself by saying ranger has never had his heyday. nobody believes you. you lost your credibility bigtime. we were not talking about streams. we were talking about huge arenanet tourneys with huge dollar prizes.
@vee hee
dude, a lot of us have already blocked you on NA worldchat. you dont make sense at all. you sound like a 2 yr old that just started talking. you say the same kitten over and over. we really dont care if you’re NA top engi, you still act like a kitten kitten.
i’m right from the start. this inscrustable guy has nothing better to do here but flamebait the forums.
it’s far from braindead. i play all ranger builds but my favorite is the spirit build not because its op but due to how interesting it really is. what more interesting than to heal your allies and rez 3 of tgat the same time. the support it brings to the team is very unique and far from braindead.
dude, the only way to revive the ranger is to give back what they had taken away from the spirit build. sb kinda looks spammy because crossfire attack speed is fast and you get to use it a lot while you are waiting fo your other weapon skills to get off cd. stop with these hasty judgements.
i think these people based their comments on the ranger’s performance in wvw. they might have thought it was the same thing in pvp. lok
no, it doesnt. you are trying to tell us a history about the meta that you obviously dont have enough knowledge. im gonna tell you this ranger has never been out of the meta. we are hanging by a thread now but the class is still in the meta. ranger was represented at the recent TOL and at the pax tourney in 2013, there was even a team that chose to run double ranger.
I think its because the ranger has never had its day in the sun. Most of the other classes have had periods when they were amazing to play, so much overpower. Each class has had its day bar the ranger. Even warriors had a time when they were utterly junk and no one used them. Now they are hideously overpowered. Thief used to be the rage, now its a bit rubbish, still great for roaming but the tricks are gone.
wasnt last summer spirit rangers heyday? where in pax tournament entire comps were built around neutralizing spirit ranger?
he doesnt know that. these guys are fresh from pve thinking that by playing pvp for a couple of months make them eligible to post comments here. coughs inscrutable coughs
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this can be easily kited by a zerker ranger but no need to worry since most rangers have already rerolled.
i just hope that after reading this thread the dev’s would finally be able to see the huge screw-ups they did to the ranger class. the nerf just dont cease.
you are a supporter of another class. you dont strike me as someone who mains a ranger. if you dont care about the state of the ranger, it’s absolutely fine. people who are on this thread have been a ranger main in pvp for a really long time and we would appreciate that you keep your insubstantial comments to yourself. thank you.
dude, all you did is flamebait on this thread. if you dont have anything better to say or probably something that can contribute to the topic, just GTFO. nobody wants you here.
lol its instructive to show you the authority that people who are smarter than the “best” and who “rule” can put you to bed without your supper.
Its hilarious that you find ele to be so easy when you would be incapable of doing what you describe they do. You have no idea how to play D/D, let alone S/D, if your tag is any indication you have never been anything but a bad getting carried by easy class mechanics.
Please make a 240p quality video of you playing Ele I want to be entertained Joffrey
now, you reduce to namecalling. what are you? a 5 yr old? i know how to play ele, i even played that class before the patch and i was surprised on how braindead easy to play that class now.
that video made so much contribution to this thread, dude.
seriously, the way anet buffed the eles is so hasty. they buffed it to the point that they can just run around in circles with insane mobility and regen. i dont get it why they can have so much sustain and decent dps at the same time. with every patch, pvp just worsens.
can anyone tell me who the kitten is this inscrutable guy? ive never read so much bullkitten from anyone in my entire online life. geez! this guy has a lot of nerves lecturing us on how to play our class. he even tried to give unwanted advices to saizo sol and oidmetala. god kitten annoying.
inscrutable is obviously flamebaiting.
are you talking to me? i was once at the top 200 in teamq and top 500 in soloq then i stopped playing because of some things i needed to d irl. the nerf to the spirit build was completely unfair after what they did to engineers and ele’s. they overnerfed the ranger class and overbuffed the others. i find it unfair and that is my opinion.
what happened after the nerf? aha. the ranger class was put at the very bottom of the tier class. the nerfs were not in sync with the adjustments to the other professions. totally unfair.
anet better undo the nerfs that they did to the spirit build. i still dont get it why the kitten they did so much nerfing to that build and buffed everybody else. god kitten lame.
warriors are pretty easy to beat as a ranger when you have your elite available. as a power ranger, it’s always a sure win vs a warrior when i am able to use RaO and as a spirit ranger, when i have the elite spirit.
just use another facerolling build you can see off the net. lol. ele is not hard. pls stop lying.
Has anyone tried this kind of set-up? Yeah, it might lack the condi damage that a normal spirit ranger will have but it can make it up with good dps and enough toughness. it’s more like a support type of build. i think this build will work vs hambow, d/d eles using diamond skin and condi necro’s. the build has high hp that can last vs condi dealers. what do you think guys?
here is the build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBlODbkRlWV7VxZFiWDIIIrC0+VsWuPus4FrcyE-TJRAwAAuCApLDod/BCPEAA
pop healing spring and stand on it for a few seconds; it usually works for me but i guess you really cant do anything if they put loads of conditions on you.
i’m sorry for the bad play and the sound. i play usually better than this on the video but this was a duel between me using double bows with zerker stats and a condi engi.
i’m sure you guys can do it better than me so it’s pretty much possible to duel using both bows. i hope this helps.
btw, this video was taken before the last patch.
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