Guild Wars 2

Amaimon.7823:

Faaris.8013:

Apparently, with the expansion there will be 25 slot bags. I would like to see 25 slot bags being sold by BUY-4373 in the Mistlock Observatory. I would pay 1000 Relics for one.

‘Apparantly’?
First I heard of it, where did you get that?
No google sources on it

There were runes you could get in the beta indicating there will be bag with 25 slots.
I doubt that we will be able to get them for 1k relics because that would be too cheap according to the prizes we’ve seen in the beta. But there is hope that prices will be tuned down – the rune had a value of over 100g.

Then.
Stop.
Pugging.

That’s what people do when they want to raid seriously.

Makai.3429:

Trice.4598:

It’s funny that all the people asking for easy mode raid for the past year, are all here saying the fractal hard mode is too hard? Or all the people who were asking for 5 man raid because, what was hard was getting 10 people, not the raid itself?

Well here we are, with the same people saying the hard mode is too hard and that they don’t want fractals to be 5 man raids. If it’s too hard, do lower tiers, easy.

This is why I’m glad to see anet stick to their guns.

These arguments get bandied about all the time. Are you sure they’re the exact same posters? Got some quotes?

He is right. Some of them are here for real! I won’t name them because it could be seen as namecalling and people reporting for that. But you just have to give a look around and check some posters and browsing through their message history here in this subforum.

Murdock.6547:

Raids are factually too accessible. The fact that a level 80 in missmatched masterwork gear, some not even being level 80 can enter a raid is unacceptable.
And everyone and their mother knows this. Someone who has absolutely no business raiding is, by the game’s own ruleset, allowed to raid. So players who (not unfairly) want to keep this sort out, have to make their own rulesets.
With little viable way to showcase skill in a raid without having raided, the default falls to LI. I’ve already mentioned my problem with this.

Lol, tell this to people trying to start raiding. Your statement is nonsense, raiding is not too accessible.
Yes, you can enter a raid with the mentioned gear but since you are not actually skilled you won’t succeed. Maybe you get Escort down with totally random gear on all 10 pug players but not more.
Either those 10 people will lack the mechanics on easier bosses like MO or Cairn or totally fail due to more specific ones like tanking VG and so on.
Doesn’t feel like you have very much raiding experience in GW2 yourself.

nedlee.5943:

I’ve yet to clear 100 despite multiple attempts.

From the thread it seems like everyone will tell me just ‘u sux git gud’ but the problem I see here is that one guy making a bad move can wipe the entire party, especially at the second boss. I’ve always had someone who didn’t jump into the dome when he had a skull, or who said he’ll bounce the ball but didn’t, or didn’t dodge the huge AOE, not using special action so on and after that it is basically impossible to make a comeback. And the fights are really long, which really wears people out and make them just give up after few wipes.

I’d call that a really bad design for a pug fractal, and I hope Anet never do thing like that again.

1. After first wipe to skull bomb tell them what to do in this scenario
2. Do the bouncing ball by yourself – one is enough to do it
3. If players don’t dodge the AoE and die over and over again, stop rezzing them and finish with 4 or less players. 100 is very easy doable, you don’t need 5 players alive.

Wiara.4236:

I’d love to try a raid. But unfortunately I find the raiding community completely inaccessible. I have watched videos, read and studied the walkthroughs. However I can never get into a squad that will accept me or be happy to guide me through my first experience. Training runs are few and far between (I have seen zero so far) I have literally spent hours over many days trying to get accepted into a squad. (EU server experience).

Right now the only way I am going to unlock the raids mastery line is by having to pay 800 ecto’s for the priveledge of potentially getting scammed in a selling run…

It’s quite sad really, the raiding community seems to be a polar opposite of the rest of the GW2 community.

Don’t start raiding over the LFG alone. Best way to begin is to go to the right forum sections like this one:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor

There are also ones for german, french and spanish auditory, just change the language above!

Furthermore the RTI (Raid Training Initiative) also welcomes new players and on reddit there are also many possibilities like this one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6uun9d/xainas_raid_teach_run_today_eu/

If you went through all of them and you had 0 success then come back and tell us!

Someone in MightyTeapot’s stream said that a new raid will come roughly one month after PoF release like back then when HoT was released.
So yeah, in the current situation we are fine. Stop being impatient there is enough going on in this game right now, enough content to be played (100CM for example) and let devs do their work. I very much like the way Arenanet is bringing out content at the moment – in terms of quality and pace!

Don’t forget the huge majority of raiders is playing the other parts of the game as well and therefore will buy or already have bought PoF.
Even people in speed clear and seller guilds are regularly playing HoT + Tyria maps.
(I know it is surprising for the anti-raid crowd but yes, they do. ^^)

Makai.3429:

Blaeys.3102:

Designing game content that is first and foremost fun for as many players as possible – that sounds like something we should be saying to devs a lot more often.

+1 x10,000 if I could. The game was originally designed with this in mind, and I wish it had stayed that way.

And raids totally killed that aspect of the game because everything else is not playable anymore?

Have there been only raids in development since HoT?

Tyria maps are empty and not played as well as Verdant Brink, Auric Basin, Tangled Depths and Dragon Stand (because a lot of people are raiding every day)?

There’s no new open world content every 2-3 months since one year?

Blaeys.3102:

Sooloo.1364:

I never understood why developers create content just for small segments of the community instead of everyone. This always leads to elitism and exclusion.

It has had a fairly negative impact on the game’s community.

And, even more unfortunate, if you try to bring it up on these forums, all you tend to get is “you’re imagining it – get over it and stop talking” style responses, which only further alienates people from the game mode.

The current implementation of raiding in GW2 needs to change in some pretty basic ways, imo.

Haven’t read anything similar like “you’re imagining it – get over it and stop talking” over the last months here and even back then those were comments of people you can easily ignore bc it was either trolling or just not to be taken seriously although I agree you have to recognize such postings (which is not hard if you are more often around in these forums.)

But I still strongly disagree with your opinion – it’s legit to have it on your own – but I see so many raid teaching stuff going around. Guilds fill up with new members here and there, low LI runs or even ones without requirements + trainings and we have things like these regularly:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6r57k8/xainas_double_event_on_sunday_hptour_raids/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6uun9d/xainas_raid_teach_run_today_eu/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6qa5pa/xainas_teach_raid_on_tuesday_8pm_cest_euevent/

Or that: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6n2b23/a_music_guild_tries_to_raid_part_2/

They actually kill bosses!

So, with things like these, the mystery or the ghost of “elitist raiding” has become quite non-existent if you stay realistic.

Of course, raiding is or has become a thing of effort and time commitment not of being a professional in terms of skill and that is alright, like PvP or high level WvW which often takes place at night and is not possible for many players. PvE raids are just the cherry on top of PvE – nothing more, nothing less.

The segment is not as small as you want to believe. I know lots of people that do raids regularly, on a weekly basis but never set a foot into fractals or fighting world bosses or PvP or WvW.
People are exaggerating a lot when they say raids is exclusive content for very skilled players or that they are hard to beat. This is mostly from the view of outsiders that have never set a foot into a raid, failed with one or only a few groups and therefore think raids are the hell on earth.
Since now I’ve seen so many of the so called “casual” players succeeding in raids because for this content they were playing for the team, adapting, learning encounters and tried a couple of boss pulls.
You can even do Sabetha and Sloth – some pug killer bosses – with new players and exlain them the mechanics on ts/discord shortly before and there is a good chance of beating them. The rest of the group don’t need to be pro players for that.

But yeah, if you have no or almost no clue of raids, how and which people are playing them it’s easy to be against them and call raiders out as an “elitist circle” playing “hardcore content”.

Btw. the most difficult thing in the game at the moment is fractal 100CM – raids are very easy compared to that.

voidvector.2780:

Using words like “QoL”, “imporve” or “better” to ask ANet for rewards when

1) you are not putting additional effort because you already hoarded the currency
2) the reward only benefit a segment of the community (myself included BTW – i do T4 fractals daily)

does not benefit the community as a whole.

If you want Obsidian shards, go farm Cursed Shores and do events in Straits of Devastation like everyone else. Instead of perpetuate this entitlement mentality that not only leads to “dead maps” but also potentially wasting Anet’s resources (resources that can better served giving us new content)

Farming Cursed Shore or Straits of Devastation for obsidian shards? Why the hell should I do that when the overwhelming majority of the GW2 community is effortlessly running around at Silverwastes gaining obsis as accessory parts and karma on the fly to buy even more obsis and making more gold as well. Yes, you are literally pressing 1 there as DD and “f” to loot for karma, gold and obsis. You don’t even need to use your own shovels because there’s always someone around with them.
As if fractal runners like me who spend 20-45 minutes per day in instanced content – speaking of daily T4s – are responsible for “dead maps”. Never heard more nonsense. Seriously, is this a troll post?
And sorrry, we put effort into it. You don’t obtain such amount of relics by doing nothing or pressing 1 repetitively. Hmm, maybe yes and you are the <500 dps staff necro I met yesterday in my first T4 frac.

Your whole line of argument is flawed and makes no sense at all. If you would have read the OP post and the comments afterwards and understood what the wishes are you wouldn’t write such rubbish.
We don’t need another source of gold and no more asc gear possibilities – personally I’m swimming in both – we need a proper swap offer.
For example, things like obsidian shards or mystic clovers won’t hurt anybody but I’m also open minded for other useful things with a reasonable change value that won’t hurt the economy. Although I doubt that this is even possible because fractals are a niche content with little impact on the economy as a whole compared to the majority of open world influence.

But again, you’re better off with reading the OP again and I can also recommend the reddit thread. There’s a little chance that you’ll get the point.

voidvector.2780:

“And I should be doubly reward because I still run Arah P4!!!”

Playing style is not a justification for in-game profit, unless Anet deems it so.

You haven’t understood what I meant. I said “improving” reward structure not “better”. We want something useful and meaningful to spend our relics.

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Read op post.

^This.

Artemis Thuras.8795:

That’s an incredibly arrogant mentality you have tbh.
People make mistakes. IT has absolutely nothing to do with how smart a player is.

Yeah, and you fail to see that this kind of stuff just happens so rarely it doesn’t matter. I guess even if you have the gear inspection nobody would recognize a wrong thing on others even if you are Mr. 100% Accurate on your team.

Artemis Thuras.8795:

I’ve seen pugs leave after one failed try because they believe the group won’t succeed.
I’ve seen instances where a single trait or utility can make a huge difference, such as taking healing spring on your druid at sloth.

Yes, and it could make a difference to take Heal Mantra as chrono and so on and so on. It’s always depending on the group and nevertheless even if you see a druid having no healing spring (which is not needed in good groups) you have to tell it to him. You are doing the same today with not having inspection tools.
For people leaving after a first try: They will do it anyways, having inspection tools or not.

voidvector.2780:

No, thank you. This is the type of entitled posting that divides GW2 community.

“Oh, I am a fractal runner, I deserve better exchanges for fractal relics because I don’t use them for ascended gears anymore as I already have bank-full of ascended chests.”

Wtf you even talking about?
Ppl doing Tarir & other HoT-stuff for far better plus repetitive rewards per day than the usual T4 fractal crowd. Improved fractal rewards are justified since it is ridiculous that u can press 1 a few times, go afk afterwards and earn a lot of loot compared to ppl that do instanced content that requires more skill to finish.

TPMN.1483:

So let me think of a recent one.. oops I forgot to equip:

I went from Power Ele to Heal Ele..
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Soothing_Power

(I put the water trait line on, but forgot this one).

My group keeps going boom.. oh my its because I keep forgetting to swap stuff.

Its not always about personal DPS – sometimes one trait such as this can make x2 diff in heals -> ability to kill or not kill.

How often does this happen to a smart player knowing his stuff. Not quite often I assume.

TPMN.1483:

Remember its not so much a problem in static groups, but I certainly lead and have lead pug groups for far too long.

Seeing people move from Power PS -> Condi PS – forgetting the shout
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22For_Great_Justice!%22

Is another one..
Takes quite a bit of effort / discussion to identify the problem more often than not.
Could easily do it in 10s if could see (a) build or (b) give them a build from a template in-game so they could update their own.

May not be a killer in a static group, but with pugs – who are often close and unknown quantity’s can be a bit of a killer.

Don’t underestimate the complexities of deailing with pug groups.

Even this won’t kill your group or has such a big impact on the team performance because even pugs can low-man stuff.
You’re making a little thing a big issue, seriously.

Grogba.6204:

Vinceman.4572:

…
Even yesterday I had some “interesting” pug experience again, staff necro at Cliffside with <500 dps during the final boss fight – 0 tankiness + 0 blood magic support.

I’ve seen my fair share of players like this with “Arch-Designer” or “Left No Hero Behind” enabled.

So at least a few guilds are cashing in on the new CM. ¯\(?)/¯

Yeah, of course if there are seller there are buyer and the other way round.
But this has been present since years in GW2. I’m not against it. I’m against a nerf regarding challenging content because it’s absolutely not necessary to serve challenge modes to the casual crowd.

I think the non-TOS-compliant things got remove from arcdps as it seems but I’m not 100% sure. Anyway, I can’t find the gearcheck version on the site and in addition to that the build template possibility also isn’t available any longer.
So, for me personally it looks like that arcdps is TOS-compliant at the moment.

Valik Shin.9027:

Anet is ridiculous they refuse to allow gear check because people should be allowed to play what they want. How bout the people that wanna have a good run and not have to carry someone because they are too lazy to get the right kitten.

Well, we all should not make a big problem out of that situation.
1. Most people run raids in statics + several are using dps meters so they will see issues after a few minutes

2. Even in pugs people are using dps meters and can as well recognize bad apples within the first minutes of a try.

3. If you want to have a good run, you can set precise requirements and ask people to ping their gear. It’s a matter of seconds if you think you’ll lose so much time.
In addition to that inspecting gear has never been really important in my pug runs and I did a lot in the past. With a little bit of brain usage you’ll identify all bad apples within the mentioned few minutes.

The community has asked for build templates since eons. Hope is present but we have been disappointed too often so I will only believe it when I see it.

A gear inspection tool is even more unlikely to come than build templates because Anet is not a fan of seperating and selecting players. The guy who had an inspection technique in his dps meter has recently banned permanently from the game:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6txv55/farewell_gw2_people/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=Guildwars2

“A ban was handed down after multiple (3) warnings…”

So, if you see gear inspection tools, you’ll better don’t use them.

The discussion about reaction time is bs. Although 3 seconds time to react is a bit exaggerated by TexZero because it’s way less I don’t see the problem here.

CM is “Challenge Mode”. It’s obviously the hardest existing fractal content and therefore it should require a little bit of effort and skill.

Even yesterday I had some “interesting” pug experience again, staff necro at Cliffside with <500 dps during the final boss fight – 0 tankiness + 0 blood magic support.
As long as such players can be carried through on of the level 90 fractals a challenge mode is strongly needed above those levels. It was a pain in the xxx to see such a bad player with no idea but still be able to get high quality loot/gold.
So, if CM is not possible for you, leave it out. T4s give enough daily reward.

Not going to happen.

I’m also still missing my compensation.

Sooloo.1364:

Same couple of guys still telling everyone how easy this is if they just learn. I still haven’t completed this fractal in a pug at any level above 25, wipe after wipe leads to rage quits then group disbands. And I try everyday. it’s time to stop pretending that this “easy” fractal is going to be learned. People just won’t do it, period.

Then why don’t you give it another try with a friend or two in the first place and later on with four pugs?
If you still do so, explain mechanics to the ones that are not used to.

You are better than the pugs you meet? Take over some special tasks:
- Bring a lot of CC on your own (for all bosses)
- Focus and push solar orb away from the group when it spawns (first boss)
- Do the ball game alone and let your group dps. (second boss)

Maybe play more defensive, all classes can use some utilities making survival easier. You don’t have to go in qT-style and play the full glass cannon full dps road if you find yourself not safe the first times.

And hey, what about the 4-5 reaper groups, I would guess it’s a joke with such team comp like the other T4s.

Azoqu.8917:

This fractal becomes 10x easier with a Guardian healer instead of a Druid/Ele healer. Don’t get stuck in the “Druids are the only healers” mentality. Yes, druids are the healers for raids because they give out DPS buffs, Guardians though troll 5 man content because they have a solution for everything and Aegis > Arkk.

Just wait until Firebrand is released and you see Guardians healing, protecting with aegis, DPSing, and providing group Quickness (honestly Firebrand 222, Honor 122, Radiance 221 with Axe/Torch + Mace/Shield, heal mantra, retreat, shield of the avenger, spirit bow, elite mantra in seraphs gear). This fractal will become a joke.

All 5 players have an “aegis” every 7 seconds or faster with a chrono because the special action key is influenced by alacrity if I’m not mistaken. You don’t need a guard healer for this.
Also, you can jump in the air to avoid the gravity circles and the balls.
In pug runs I have experienced that neither jumping is used nor special action key although they aren’t very hard to use.
For the rest you have 2 dodges to erase all the other damage sources.

I agree for the CM difficulty but not 100. If people have adjusted to the mechanics of the normal T4 it’ll be way easier than others.
The first two bosses are melting like ice in the sunshine (even with condi heavy groups) and Arkk is just long due to the fullness of mechanic switches.
Once you know and learned by heart that you have to turn around when “Eye” pops up, go into the bubble with skull, jump or special action key block balls and know how to orb phase it’s very very easy.
Of course it will take time for pugs but that was the same for Nightmare and the new Swamp.

Rewards on the other hand – I fully agree – are crap.

As I said, that is the freshest comment we have so far.

L2read.

That’s the freshest comment we have so far:

Benjamin Arnold.3457:

There’s gonna be more raids and fractals, chill guys ^-^

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/new-expansion-has-no-raid/first#post6667709

Xar.1387:

Cmon guys, i know theres more raiders with balls, which like to RAID, not farm useless pixels.

Balls? It’s more of a post-pubertal attitude. If you’d like to have balls play the real game – outside – and try to win there.

or inb4 he does a support request to restore his LIs because he “accidentally” deleted them.

Absconditus.6804:

…being that Revenant isn’t considered meta and the raiding community is a bunch of elitist meta slaves. Am I being rude saying that? Perhaps, but it’s freaking true too, and you know it. If you aren’t x class, you aren’t welcome.

It has nothing to do with “meta slaves”. The problem is that the overall majority of players is not good able to bring decent dps or class knowledge so pugs are looking for the best of the worst they can get. If you are a good revenant player how do I recognize you out of the huge group of bad ones that underperform so hard with a class that isn’t able to compete with others in “usual circumstances”. The behaviour is just logical and makes sense if you want to kill bosses and prevent wipes at all costs.
I recommend joining a static (guild) group and show them that you are outstanding. Trust me, you will be welcome if you are good because every static would appreciate players knowing their stuff. But don’t expect pugs to be like that, they don’t know you. They have no indication about you being good or bad with your revenant.

agentarm.3259:

I need to raid Forsaken Thicket to unlock the Raids mastery

agentarm.3259:

Playing for 5 years and the only raid I’ve ever done was, ironically, Spirit Vale when it first released lol. Half way through my power cut out before I could finish it :/

That doesn’t make sense at all. If you already have been half way through Spirit Vale you have the raid mastery unlocked! And also the others. You only need to kill one boss and you can unlock all existing raid masteries.
If you need the mastery points you can get them way easier on HoT and LS3 maps.

Yeah, and that’s why we call you out on having a bad habit.

You sell raids?
No problem at all. It’s not forbidden and a lot of us here have done in the past or are still doing.

You pug those selling runs?
Again, no problem at all.

You are not telling pugs that there are people in the squad who pay you money and maybe are unexperienced as hell?
That, mister, is a problem. A problem of bad habit and attitude!

It doesn’t matter if there is everytime this “one little pug that has to be carried”. You advertised a “150 LI” pug run. So, if I join, I expect your group to be able to kill that boss and everybody is bringing the same requirement. That counts for every single player in this squad.
I personally don’t want to carry players along the road if I would see such a group in the lfg.

So, it’s an unsocial procedure, worse than any others I have seen so far. Referring to your statement above it seems like you are in EU and that results into a spot of my block list.
Keep doing your stuff, I don’t care any longer but don’t believe that your excuse are accepted here by anyone.

I agree to Feanor. T4 100 is already on farm for the usual fractal crowd and it’s roughly 2 weeks after release.
It was the same thing for Swamp back in the days. The whining was huge and quite a few players were stating “If this one is T4 daily I’ll pass that.” Look at today, even with bad pugs it’s easily doable if 2-3 players know about the mechanics and carry the rest to success.

Impertinence stays impertinence, no matter what you were writing.
If you would have read properly I haven’t told the OP to report this commander as such I don’t know why you quote my post. That makes no sense at all.

But I’m pleased that you have understood this time and also think that the behavior of this commander was absolutely a bad move and showed a very bad attitude.

Zem.4139:

so…. if you have a job , you just don’t have enought time to done it. care of your wife , children and job , etc…. and anet ask you more than 6 hours for nothing. no reward to do this miracle ( if you done it ,like less than 0.001% of player from gw2 done it ).
So sorry for ppl who have a job this fractal is not for you.
Anet care only for ppl who have not a job and have time to pass whole life to do cm100. thanks. and still if you have more than 6hours/day to give to a single fractal who don’t give reward , it doesn’t mean you will pass.

As a grown man of 30+ years I tell you: It’s ok. This is just a game. Let it go. If you can’t make it/invest the time what’s the problem?
Enjoy the real life, hug your wive, play with your kids, show them to be a good father, care about friends, about your parents. Don’t let a fractal dictate your life.
(And just wait some weeks till bugs are fixed and players got more used to it.)

Eternaab.2638:

Vinceman: I did understand that point, that’s the whole subject of my post. Please, read it again, completly and conscientiously. If you omit half of what I’ve written, it’s a total nonsense.

Insanemaniac: Your post sounds hypocritical to me as well. :-) (I would be glad to debate about your comment, but it lacks of intelligence and arguments)

I’ve read your post again and I still stand by my comment!

The OP wanted a Xera kill within a standard group that required him to bring 150 LI like it’s a usual thing in the lfg.
OP brought it, wiped with you about an hour without getting the kill and afterwards he was told that 2 players were selling gold to a third one who offered them the kill.
So obviously this is a very dirty attitude of that seller because he gets gold for a thing others help to achieve and those other see nothing of this gold plus they didn’t even get the kill although you can expect a group with such requirements to get it.

Selling raid kills is fine as long as everyone in the squad is ok with that procedure – which one usually finds in static groups not in pugs. But it’s not right to cheat on the OP and pretend it to be a casual pug run with everybody knowing and having enough experience while it is not the case. If I want my weekly kill like the OP within a pug and I would know about 2 buyers in there I would immediately leave that one to get a clean and sober kill without wiping an hour!
As being said he didn’t know about that in the first place so he wasted an hour of his gaming time because others cheated on him. If you tell all your pugs that you are selling, that’s fine but in this case he wasn’t told so it’s an impertinence.

Wait for the next patch and the bugfixes within. It should work better then.

Well Eternaab, what you still haven’t understood till this point is that it is a abysmal impertinence to take players with little to 0 experience, take money from them, put them in a squad and then ask 150 LI players to join to kill a boss without them knowing in the first place that this run is most likely to fail because there are “hidden” players in this squad who had never or rarely beaten it.
Look from the other perspective: You see the LFG popping up with “Xera – 150 LI” (and maybe more requirements) and you join there because you think that a 150 LI group will be able to kill her. The thing is you don’t know that there are people inside this group that have no clue at all (at worst) and they prevent you from killing the boss which could be killed in 1-5 attempts in a group with these requirements.
As player with 150 LI you are left in uncertainty about those “bad apples” and that’s absolutely unfair to them.

Huttunen.8309:

@Vince the group had the potential to kill it so i stayed there, just those buyers were anchoring us down as one of them was a druid and neither of them had and idea what to do and what was going on.

If you wipe for an hour the group has no potential to kill – it’s a training at best.

Don’t spend that long in a 150 LI pug. Although I advise everybody to not leave after one try because it’s annoying as hell for the others next time just have a look at the progress and if you think it’s really possible to kill the boss.
With 150 LI you should be experienced enough to estimate if it’s going to work or not after 2-3 pulls. 1 hour of wiping is definitely too much for an amount of 150 LI.

They already stated that 25 will be tuned down because it’s not in line with the others in that tier.
So, just wait until the next patch hits.

Joxer.6024:

I asked this in the Warrior thread but am also curious from a raiding point of view so will post here as well:

“So from the looks of things is my viper set(i.e. Condi PS) going to obsolete? Coming from a strictly pve point of view and of course using the new elite, seems to be a power build, or am I seeing it wrong?”

Maybe you wait until the final release of the expac and even then you don’t know about the nerf or buff hammer some weeks later.
I’d rather recommend you to farm gold and be ready to craft a new gear when it comes to the actual benchmarks.

Owning thre armor sets is the equivalent to having 750 Legendary Insights which are needed to craft those, not more nor less.
I would call a person that has bought all those runs + the collections as very rare and even if such player would get into your group you’ll identify that fast. It’s highly unlikely the next one of the LFG is from the same quality so yeah, it makes sense to ask for that title instead of LI for players that have spend all of them for the armors.

Jahroots.6791:

But please, stop saying something can be done by anyone because others have done it. Nothing in the history of things has ever worked this way.

But…but…but…you can /gg at every raid boss and the other 9 are still able to kill it.

TexZero.7910:

Glad Anet made the change, now the “easy mode” crowd can go get their armor while the rest of the raiding community can enjoy quality content that isn’t compromised due to the incessant complaints of a minority out for rewards.

Praise you, Sir!

Yo, you can play PvP and WvW in the future and obtain legendary armor there:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-and-PvP-Ascended-Armor-Upgrades/

Makai.3429:

Dungeons aren’t nearly as rewarding as they used to be, what with the nerfs and inflation.

This is a factual error people are falling for since it has been spreading around after the first nerf. Since then, Anet has rebalanced the rewards and if you run your dungeons in the same groups like before but now with elite spec etc. you’ll actually make more money than in the past.
Dungeons just aren’t popular anymore because they are old content. Pick up some gildies/friends and you will see it’s lucrative. It’s not as good as fractal 40 farm and other farming methods in the game but still ok to increase your own pocket. Inflation won’t deny that.

They have no intention to nerf it.

Of course they have, you are absolutely wrong.
They said several times that we get raids and fractals when they are ready not specifically linked to expansions or living story releases. They get live updates and since we know from Benjamin Arnold after the recent release of Shattered Observatory that there will be fractals coming in the future plus no statement of all that fractal team or either raid team have been canceled it’s obvious that there will be both of them in the future.
Reading Mo’s statement also helps: They announce things nowadays when they are about to be released not promises they cannot keep like they did in the past.
In addition to all of that I know reading between the lines is a virtue not everybody is able to. You definitely are not.

aelfwe.4239:

Now that i had some child statement about forum i dont care i’d like some dev statement about raid, thx

Hehe, very adult behaviour. I think it’s clear now who is the child. ^^

I just said you can easily change the game and success for you when adjusting a little bit of your gear. That’s all.
But you still refuse to move ahead and that is what’s stopping you from being successfully in raiding and furthermore your personal goal a.k.a. legendary armor.
Lots of people are busy, cannot play at scheduled times and/or have other barriers but they still managed to achieve their goals by being open-minded.

You think it’s a big deal but in the end it’s not as endless players have shown over the last months.
Still, it’s not the game, it’s your attitude towards it.

Overall, your decision, not ours.