Guild Wars 2

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BURNING
Rangers
Necros

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All other professions

So basically the meta is still the same kitten as before…
I don’t think i can force myself to play this crap for much longer…

Sorry guys, I had to edit my post and remove the atachement, A-net asked me to report exploits via E-mail, not here to prevent the exploits from spreading and it makes perfect sense so…

imo it all depends on the player behind it. Most warriors I have encountered are bad players / have bad builds / are clueless…

BUT however i have met, played with and against some very good warrior players that put up a hell of a fight and most of the times win, so again IMO what is wrong with the warrior is not JUST a matter of being under powerd but badly played.

I do not play one so give me a brake here but could it be the case that it has a high learning curve and needs some brains and practice to master?!

Apart from this i DO thing that they need some love…

some ppl in this forum/thread need a huge buff…

…to their sense of reason!

just sain

stealth is on a 4sec reveled not to mention the initiative cost to get in it. the way it is described BP + HS its 7init on a 12init pool even with Infusion of Shadow it costs 5 init
meaning it can only be done once every 4 secs and since it has high init cost it cant be spammed as ppl seem to believe.

Is it hard to counter a D/P thief? indeed it is! is it killable? ofc it is. i play a thief myself and use a different weapon setup and I kill them all the time…

if he uses BP i KNOW there is a HS on the way so i dodge it and get away from were i was standing to avoid a BS, he will try it a second time and i do exactly the same maneuver, now he is on a low init pool and there is very little he can do wile i’m still full and take him down easily.

D/P thieves are VERY predictable i’m amazed how ppl didn’t learn yet how to counter them…

here is the fix you are looking for:
- Do not stand on smoke fields

this thread is hilarious

Thieves have been in tire B before patch and after the last patch, how come they are S atm? did I miss something? cuz in game (for me) nothing changed…

EoNxBoNx.9213:

I have two proposed changes for S/D thieves(considering people think they are too strong) these can, and will change a lot in terms of them having “too many” dodges.

Sigil of Energy; change it so it either, cannot be weapon swap spammed, back and fourth, or so it gives endurance over time.

Signet of Agility; simply just make this give 50% endurance. This is will instead give them one dodge and not two.

Effectively giving the thieves one dodge on a weapon swap, and one dodge when using their signet. Now instead of using weapon swaps, whenever you feel you need initiative or endurance, you might have to save it you swaps when you really do it.

Personally I think we should stay away from changing traits because there are other builds that could be viable if the 15 minor acro trait is left alone, and same for the 10 adept 3 acro trait.

I really don’t know how much this Sigil change is going to effect any other profession, but the biggest benefits S/D gets are from that sigil, and the signet.

sure! and wile you are at it, pls make another weapons set viable from competitive PvP since with this changes S/D will join the rest of our weapons sets in the “Trash” category.

thanks!

reroll, you still got time!

JonathanSharp.7094:

Volrath.1473:

JonathanSharp.7094:

I just think it’s cute that we have this thread going concurrently with a thread that’s saying Necro’s have no survivability, death shroud is horrible, and that Necro’s, in order to be viable, need to start PvP with life force.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/So-you-want-us-to-use-Deathshroud/

:)

Have you seen the video?
Have you played the game for more that 5 min in the last month? and i mean PLAYED not logged in to run some “tests”…
Can you share the number of players that stopped logging in in the last 3-6 month?

No, I can’t see the video in China (DID YOU READ MY FIRST POST???)

Yes, I actually play with a lot of the players on the forums, and see them in queue.

Our numbers are actually on the rise.

GG!

RE?

Chap, you are the dev that i sympathies the most and i don’t like to argue with you but I also dont like to be mocked at! you called this thread “cute” since Necros are complaining about the “nerfs” on a different thread -_-’ even though you had not seen the video nor tested what was stated here in game.

About the numbers, i find it hard to believe, i’m on my third guild atm since the other too simply stoped playing for good. I see 3 ppl from those guilds still playing.

Also the Heart of the mist is a desert and spvp servers are less and less populated, tournaments take longer to pop and the queues in wvwvw are no more…

Unless every one is PvEing it feels like were loosing allot of players and fast.

Also I’m sorry if i sounded rude, Things aren’t going very well (personal) and my attitude was compulsive.

I don’t what the other devs to post in the forum, there are community coordenators for that.

I want devs to PLAY THE STUPID GAME and realize how broken it is. THEN i would like the devs to FIX IT before my THIRD guild disappears from the game….

Lopez.7369:

Shar.3402:

http://www.twitch.tv/symbollix/c/2622702

this is the state of the necromancer after the patch. Balanced. Not.

That is enormously situational and impractical. I’d be surprised if people started taking Spectral Armor in the first place.

Ofc! especially after seeing this vid, no one will use it! obviously…

baaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahahahahhaa…..

wait… wait…

can’t… hold… it… BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Theads like " OMG i luv u anet" and “I love this game so much I let dog starve to death” are worthy of a reply from anet.

this one doesn’t… Amazing!

You need a 40 man raid for world boss!

I have been gaming online since 1994 and have played most mmo’s and mainly pvp focused.
I can say that from all the mmo’s I’ve played this is by far the worst designed and the most combat disencouraging pvp map I played until this day…

I always, and always will skip that data garbage a-net calls “pvp map”.

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

runeblade.7514:

Taunt: Your foe will blindly run towards you.

It works just like fear, but taunt makes the target run towards you. The target does not get to use any skills and cannot freely control their character until the condition is removed or the stun break has been activated.

Unlike fear, Taunt condition makes the target run at a specific direction: You. If you strafe around, the taunted target will turn to move towards you.

This condition is perfect for a warrior shout: “Coward!”.

Fear does make you run at a specific direction. Its directly oposite to the fear caster.

Volrath.1473:

Yes! More conditions is exactly what this game needs right now!

While the idea is good, I dont think more conditions is what this game needs, considering we already have a strong condition-meta installed.

I was clearly being sarcastic… But at least we are in agreement

Yes! More conditions is exactly what this game needs right now!

PvP is becoming bigger but to a restricted group of people… The causal players and the solo queuers like myself are playing less and less due to the frustration the current meta provides, ppl play to have fun! If you play a game that frustrates you over and over again you simply stop playing it and go play an actual FUN game!
it’s what I’m doing right now… I intend to come back but only when this game becomes once again fun to play…

I made a very similar thread 2-3 weeks ago and got flamed cuz it was “too soon” after the patch and players would adapt to this new meta.

well guess what?! I was right…

PS. This was my thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Worse-Meta-EVER

There are so few of us pvping now days…

And i thought we needed balance in pvp…
I guess what we need is shinnies…

were in BETA! wait for the final version of the game before complaining.

aw wait…

you don’t like the thieves shoes?

I just rolled a necro and i’m having a blast!
I’m eating popcorns while playing with my feet and killing anyone that comes to my node!

I think necros are just fine!

Idd love them to announce the names of the newly contracted balance devs to replace the current ones!

pmnt.4067:

Alkaholic.3875:

Early it was burst…“WORST META EVER”
then it was bunkers…“WORST META EVER”
now it’s condi’s…“WORST META EVER”

Prediction: new meta consists of supporters: many small heals/regen, (AoE?) cleansing conditions. (Also the WORST META EVER). Supporters are perfectly countered by … burst – the last and first WORST META EVER. Maybe then the playerbase learns to build balanced teams (at least one of each).

Ty for proving my point, there never was balance and devs have no clue how to achieve it.
They talk about baby steps and small adjustments but they keep “fixing” the game by braking it even more…

Ppl complaint a lot about players leaving solo queue tournaments, well wen you are facing a condi heavi team and are constantly bombarded with a wide verity of conditions, taking in consideration the VERY limited condi removing abilities available… It gets REEEELY frustrating because it is not a matter of who plays better, it is a matter of it is impossible to survive so yah ill keep rage quiting and I’m positive I will not be the only one!

Anet should contract some real balance devs and testers, the ones they have, have proven over and over and over again how incredably incompetent they are.

Anywhere you go everyone, there mother, there dog and there bird is playing condi spec… i mean, there and condis flying everywhere there are not enough condi removers in the universe to counter this…. there is NO WAY to survive this…

Necros are all condi
Engis are mostly condi
Thieves (about 50% of them are condi)
Rangers are condi
Mailman is condi
Buss driver is condi
….

Condis here condis there condis everyware….

On a more serious note… It is very clear (for me at least) that this game will never see any kind of balance and honestly, my patience for this ended a while ago.

under what?! ahahah i NEVER lose a fight underwater!!

Specially because i NEVER go under water!

vicious.5683:

Calm down ppl, Devs will change sigil of paralyzation to not increase fear duration, then they are going to reduce terror damage by 30-50% and thats all. They won’t decrease any other condition duration on any other skill or trait.

can I take a look at your crystal ball?

thief condi builds are very bad at the current meta, every necro, mesmer, engi, ele will have no problem taking you down…

I find myself playing less and less each week… atm with the current meta i log in, sit in the mists chatting with friends and log out 15min later…
I’m a PvP / WvW player and the frustration is consuming me so…

tbh i play allot more rift now that i did back in the days when it came out…

Purie.9046:

Volrath.1473:

were have i read this before?!…. humm OH YEAH!! the THIEF forum.
they got nerf anyway so… GOOD LUCK!!!

Im glad you red the tittle and nothing more :-)

reading endless wot on a tiny iphone screen is not my thing :P

Evan Lesh.3295:

We hear you guys loud and clear! We definitely plan on mitigating the leaver issue with a form of punishment. I wont give details about what the punishment will be, but it should be enough to deter this form of behavior. Anything we add will be in addition to what happens now (loss and rating hit).

Balance the professions and FIX the matchmaking system!
There! problem solved!

you WILL need new devs for that though, the ones you have clearly can’t handle it…

were have i read this before?!…. humm OH YEAH!! the THIEF forum.
they got nerf anyway so… GOOD LUCK!!!

do NOT bring pistols into PvP!

ppl with /laugh on your corpse

someone did the math on that, for an average player it will take about 19 years, so if i play about 2-3h a day every day i’ll be Dragon at the age of 53!!

yes! pls buff the poor necros!

JonathanSharp.7094:

Just wanted to come out of my lurk mode for a bit and let you guys know that we are watching this thread on the balance team.

Keep it constructive, but keep going, we love reading the debate!

ofc you do! Just by reading the patch notes every 4-5 weeks, the first thing that comes to mind is:

_ “Man! they really do read the forums and are aware of what’s going on! they obviously know exactly what they are doing”_

shame the “forum” you read is not this one….

emon.1863:

Dude, if necro is useing terror and burninr, then he is probobly in glass cannon spec and will go down in no time.

this argument is very old man thieves used it 100s of times per day and look where it got them…

you better come up with something new otherwise the bat that hits thieves EVERY SINGLE MONTH will hit you too!

I’d say Necros and Mesmers on top of the food chain and everyone else more or less at the same level.

Lyssa and BoonManica dont sound to me to be a good idea…
a Necro with Corrupt Boons will kill you with the press of 1 button…

Woaden.9425:

Nice video! I got nervous for you with all the cooldowns up right at the opening of the necro fight but you pulled it out!

I don’t think LS for 2 ini will make much of a difference in Coloxeus playstyle. GJ man!

probably not but the Studebaker on sword #2 will…

Pandalishus.8426:

Volrath.1473:

No print whatching it then…

No point either.

kitten iphone auto correction….

tks for correcting me

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it will only get worse… Profession balance has gone down the drain with this patch and at the speed A-net does things it is going to take another 6 month to get it at the point we were last week so ppl will get frustrated by being steamrolled by a team with the most Necros / Mesmer / Guardians in it and will rage quit more and more so…

Get useto it

Because we could kill other players under water…