Imo it is a PvE ability, has no place in PvP atm.
Just want to add on the deposit collectibles thing, can glory boosters stay in our bags as well?
Ger an Invisible bag and put the stuff you don’t want to go to bank when you deposit collectibles and the the stuff you don’t want to show up on vendor in that bag.
Problem solved.
Your inability to process the logic of the hidden mmr can be explained by your inability to process that the mmr is without logic.
Once you understand this… an explanation you will find.
Yoda? is that you? o.O’
I have made this same suggestion in the suggestion forum a few months ago.
Was basically ignored…
If this is true… Then it is not a buff since we had this in the first place.
This does not appear to be truth since the revealed nerf came to be because of ppl crying about thieves in wvwvw were they would die before being able to even see him. For this reason it doesn’t make any sense at all to revert this in pve and wvwvw and leave it at 4s in spvp were ppl NEVER complaint about permanent stealth….
For me it is fun, My RLF that started with me they are all gone but i still play every day 2-4h after dinner.
But i admit that sometimes it gets very frustrating due to annoying bugs and some of the unexplicable changes dev’s implement…
I have posted the exact same thing a few weeks ago wen they mentioned it for the fist time, so yeah, i fully agree with the OP.
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Why post screenshots like that one?
If you play the same game I play you, should know that these numbers (not just the one you highlighted but all of them) can only be pulled off on a very low lvl player <30 in WvWvW, on a lvl 80 fully geared, even if he is a glass cannon spec in berserker gear, you will never be able to do such dmg.FYI side strike gives 7% crit chance not dmg and if you are able to down ANYONE by spamming HS i would LOVE to duel you and prove you wrong.
I’m not allowed to post screen captures? When I get time i’ll jump on and try to grab some for you against some lvl 80s, of course backstab wont nearly be 17k, and steal/cnd will probably be around 5-6k with a following backstab of 6k+. If you even read my post I said granted this person was “upleveled”.
Lol @ this duel crap, are you simple or can you just not read? I was mocking how 90% of the thiefs out there do nothing but spam HS, clearly something you cannot comprehend. Offended much?
Oh and yeah you’re right about side strike, sorry I wasnt able to check before I posted that, though a thief isnt my main so my mistake.
actually I can read unlike you apparently… I asked why post that kind of screen shot i NEVER said you weren’t allowed or should not be posting them.
Here is what you said about HS spamming
“and if I want to be a big scrub like 90% of the thiefs out there i’ll just spam HS and have my target dead in the matter of a few seconds.”
If you chose to play like you just said you did come duel me to prove you wrong, no offence taken nor intended.
Oh and btw its THIEVES not thiefs…
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Why post screenshots like that one?
If you play the same game I play you, should know that these numbers (not just the one you highlighted but all of them) can only be pulled off on a very low lvl player <30 in WvWvW, on a lvl 80 fully geared, even if he is a glass cannon spec in berserker gear, you will never be able to do such dmg.
FYI side strike gives 7% crit chance not dmg and if you are able to down ANYONE by spamming HS i would LOVE to duel you and prove you wrong.
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So why is this not ok but thief burst is?
Because there is play in thief burst. There is play there, and that spike isn’t a single attack that’s 150% your max HP in damage. Thieves need to execute a series of skills in a row, in which at any time the victim has the potential to mitigate or have some sort of play to save themselves or stop the thief. You just don’t see that with the 100nades stuff, or its a window so narrow that we as devs weren’t happy with the play from both sides of the equation as attacker/defender.
There is no “play” in mug – backstab combo.
let me brake it down for you (and i do not play BS spec)
Basilisk Venom (Elite Skill) > Assassin’s Signet > Cloak and Dagger > Steal > move behind the target > Backstab
By now if you cant avoid a backstab on a 1v1 you are doing it wrong man.
When I’m caught off guard and unprepared is one thing but if I see him coming, no way he will be able to backstab me even once during the fight.
Thank you Robert.
Please tell your friends that it’s not that hard to post here….
Also let the devs that play the Thief profession know that they can safely come out of stealth and share they’re stories like you just did.
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I also like Tyler, he posts in the Engineer forum.
Here is an example of one of his posts.
check the rest of his posts in this tread as well, he even shares his own build and tactics wile playing engi.
exploits@arena.net is the official channel for exploits, be detailed. Support is another method but will probably take a bit longer.
tks for the info, although this is not a game exploit I will send my findings to this e-mail address, they will hopefully forward it to the department responsible for account security.
i guess its not important i’ll just keep it to myself then.
I ask again, can a dev direct me in the right direction?
I found out that i could log into the GW2 website on non authorized networks.
I can log directly into my account without having to insert my username and password on an authorized computer where i had previously logged in even though this computer was shut down for a few days…
I suppose you’d like to know how…
yeah i though that to, but since they always suggest one to post on i though they might have different priorities or something.
yah… it make no scene in this environment were communication is essential.
I actually like using it in TPvP .. My third utility is an optional skill, so I test how to play with certain utilities without rly giving up my effectiveness and SW works well for the knockdown (the pull-over part is what’s bugged mostly, but I only need it for the knockdown)
The skill could use some buff, but it’s fun enough to have a place in my bar.
imo as a knockdown it is not very good either since it has a cast time and roots you for the full animation of the skill…
hi,
I think i may have found a Security Flaw on the GW2 website / Forum Site but I don’t want to post it here to avoid possible account theft, were can i post it?
I went to the “Ask a Question” but i didn’t think that this particular issues fits in to any of the available options on the drop down box…
Tks
I’m sorry if i offended you guys in any way.
Dude I didn’t read the books nor will I, My wife has read them all, i read the first one and it was so freaking boring….
Back on topic IN MY HUMBLE OPINION (not fact) staff makes no sense on the Guild Wars 2 Thief profession. If you believe otherwise good lick convincing the devs!
best regards,
Vol
Yes, i agree with the OP but also give us random maps or a daily rotation instead of weakly… it gets boring after a couple of hours…
what I do is join the 5v5 on hotjoins although they don’t last long… after 1 player from one team leaves, if he is not replaced in 1-2 minutes the rest of the team leaves as well and the setup is gone…
Does it come with a new panda race to?
Absolutely, with new ninja stuff even if the Thief has absolutely NOTHING to do with all of that.
(Plus I don’t see my charr using that kind of weapon)
Arabian Thieves used Staffs.
thieves use small weapons
Edit: About your vid that is an Assassin, not a thief and double light-sabers are small weapons when concealed, not exactly a long piece of wood…
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If the SotG is going to be 1 week before the end of the month, does this mean that there will be no patch in April? will in come in the first half of May instead?
Does it come with a new panda race to?
It depends on what you will be doing in wvwvw.
a) solo
b) riding with guild or organized grp on VOIP
c) joining the brainless steamrolling zerg
For solo I use 0/20/30/20/0 with D/P +DB.
For organized raid with guild or with friend guilds on VOIP I go with 0/30/10/30/0 with D/P + SB. For better self heals and init regen.
For zerg I can’t help you, I never zerg.
An in game VOIP function that would allow ppl int the same tournament to join it?
Wouldn’t it be awesome?
Must not be easy to implement thoug…
well you need to have a decent ini regen for starters because you will need 9 to enter stealth. Black Powder = 6 and Heartseeker =3.
Then when you need/want to enter stealth just use that combo.
as soon as revealed wears off you need to have 9 ini available to stealth again.
I personally use the acrobatics trait that gives 2 ini every 10 sec and the one in shadow arts that gives 2 ini every time you enter stealth. You can also go for the signet that gives 1 ini every 10 sec but i personally don’t think it’s necessary i use as utilities, smoke bomb, shadowstep and signet of shadows. sometimes i use shadow refuge instead of the signet as well it depends on what i need.
as mentioned before, i also use it in EB’s jumping puzzle if there are campers.
besides that, i never carry it around, there are WAY better utilities to use.
Prob here is that the devs instead of improving poor utilities to make them useful they nerf the good ones so that the poor ones actually look better….
they are bringing in Karl again? ahahah this is going to be fun!
I can’t miss this!
Why does a thief drags himself across the road?
… cuz he cant walk due the the constant beatings from the nerf bat!
ah I see!
tks for clearing that up! i never played a mesmer and was really surprised at those numbers… xD
Today wile doing some spvp testing out e new build and weapon set i got 1 shotted by a mesmer and I was staring at my screen for a few seconds thinking….. wot?!
here is the screenshot.
A thief enters a bar…
he quickly spots an engineer and pretends to go to the bathroom, as he passes by the engineer, he #F1 and steals from him hoping to get some awesome gadget full of BOOM that could be very useful in certain situations BUT…
He ends up with a hand full of sticky, smelly, disgusting and useless gunk… “Why the hell would an Engineer carry this stuff in their pocket” the thief thought…
The Engineer rolled on the floor laughing…
I don’t know how long you’ve been away but the burst is still there but there was allot of nerfing lately and no buffs to compensate so…
yeah come again SOON
that plant you mentioned, does it also induces/intensifies paranoia as well?
(just to be sure we’re talking about the same plant)
I preferred if Anet would keep it simple, splitting abilities on all professions will be a mess… unlike ppl believes, splitting abilities will bring confusion and will be harder to balance / track the abilities performances since it is NOT the same ability in PvE and PvP, it will be 2 separate abilities. Now imagine that on all professions on multiple abilities…
As it been done on other games but not at this extent, normally its one specific ability from 1 specific class/profession, not all…
just my 2 cents
Edit: I did not play GW
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I’ll try to respond to some of the comments since my last post…
Yes, I do play this build in tournaments. I’ve used it for my last 30ish matches. I generally solo queue and I’m currently rank 289 NA. I’m playing this build because I prefer to use my own special blends, rather than flavor of the month builds. Would I be higher ranked if I was playing HGH? It’s entirely possible, but maybe not. At any rate I’m still winning more than I lose and having fun in the process. Part of the reason I play unpopular builds is to see how far off they are, and look for areas that we can improve to get them up to a similar level as the stronger builds.
Kit Refinement works in my build for a couple of reasons. First, I’m often bunkering a point. So my refinement is cooling down while I’m waiting for an opponent to show up, unless I’m preemptively dropping bandages and antidotes. It depends on who I expect to show up. The other reason is because my fights tend to last a long time, so even if it isn’t off cooldown at the very beginning of the fight, I’ll often still get multiple uses out of it before I fight is concluded.
Yes, sometimes rocket turret targeting does not end in my favor. However, the overcharge aoe is pretty big, and my build still works even if my rocket turret is missing my primary target. However, when the rockets are hitting, my build suddenly becomes lethal, rather than just tanky. And it provides some extra AoE CC through the overcharge knockdown and the detonate.
Thank you very much for all your posts in this thread THIS kind of communication / discussion is what we would love to see on the rest of the professions sub-forums…
Thank you Tyler. More devs should follow your example.
1) Ele
2) Ele
3) Ele
4) Ele
5) EleOH wait. It’s not true.
hey Rerroll, are you an ele? no? then you best REROLL xD
…sorry i couldn’t help myself xD
It is time to nerf us? Again?
On the other hand. We get every patch a nerf so I will not be suprised
are you a thief?
Sorry but i have too lol at this statement
“Without mug the damage a thief will deal is not enough to justify how vulnerable he is at melee range vs these players.”
I only used mug wen i played GC a loooooong looooooog time ago.
haven’t used it for months and for some odd reason i still managed to kill ppl… a lot of ppl. so yeah i can very well live without it as many other GOOD thieves out there that are not GC.
tbh i cant wait to see this trait nerfed or replaced even. same goes for last refuge.
some of you know what i’m talking about, those who don’t, i feel sorry for you.
graphic bug when in stealth and shadowstep: the character appears visible but the stealth boon is still there and no one else can see you but its very annoying having to look to see if i have the stealth boon or not just to be sure if im actually in stealth or not…
Thank you very much for this delightful moment.
i find it very useful as well but then again i’m a pvp player…
hi,
Today i loged in and went strait into SAB, after I finished it i entered the mists for pvp. after I got into the first hotjoin (warming up for tournaments) i noticed that my camera was zoomed out to a huge distanced and i couldn’t set it with my mouse wheel. the zoom was so far that my azura was barely visible… not only that but i couldn’t fight anyone since all i could see was tree branches and leaves…
since I had just left SAB i made the connection cuz in there the zoom is usually allot and it might have been transported into the “outside of the box world”
the only way to fix it was to logout and back in.
Imo it would do more harm than good to the thieve community, it would make the thief feel less fluid and also quickness would be meaningless for this particular profession.
For example we have a trait that has a 10% chance on crit to give 2 sec quickness, if the abilities have 1sec internal cooldown, having quickness or not would be exactly the same…. Also true with the utility that grants 5 sec, what good would it be if we have to use 5 different abilities in order to take any advantage out of it…
I think this change goes against of what a thief should be, at least in my POV.
This was actually brought up not too long ago. It will be addressed when spectator mode is released.
tks Evan, its good to know that you guys are actually doing something about it.
Put it in when its ready, most of us are already use to the way it is atm.
Remove stomping from stealth. That’s stupid by design.
sure man!
but wile you are at it also remove the following:
- Mesmer Stealth Stomp
- Elementalist Mistform stomp
- Guardian Stability Stomp
- Necromancer Death Shroud Stomp
- Ranger / Warrior Quickness stomp
thank you!
none… but the Celestial white (2 times), midnight ice (3 times) and midnight fire (2 times) have dropped for me a few times!
btw i bought my Abyss for a bit over 1g a long long time ago xD
i use the auto-run keybind.
i don’t need to stop to type on the chat, also wile capping (stationary) its is also a good opportunity to communicate with team mates. Also when you are down and waiting for the respawn button to light up (i don’t die much though xD )