Guild Wars 2

Dawdler.8521:

Wolfs Shadow.7234:

Rym.1469:

Funny fact I saw, Druids start PvP match with 100% filled Astral Force.

funny fact necros are a light armor tank class. How does that work?

Presumably the same way glass cannons in heavy armor work.

touche

On Forest sPvP arena map, an enemies ranger shot me back into a wall. I had to let the enemy kill me as I was stuck.

The V.8759:

Hey guys!

So I personally am annoyed by the fact a ranger can use his F skills in downed state. I mean being able to taunt, fear, swap, fear, downed F4 after eachother annoys me, even when having a few stab. Now I am not here to complain as it may seem, I am seeking the knowledge: WHY??

Thanks ^^

The pet on a ranger may be the most broken mechanic in GW2. For years it has been bugged. However “licking your wounds” healing skill may be the primary reason why the F mechanic is needed. If a pet is aggrod some where and F3/F4 is disabled there is likely no way to get healed back up. And for months even the “licking your wounds” was broken. This F key issue has been brought up so many times that it’ll make your head spin. (Also Taunt has a 15 second cooldown, so it wouldn’t be two taunts)

assassin.7895:

Can you use google please? We had that topic so many times already and your topic adds nothing new to the discussion.

ANNOYING

And your response wasn’t annoying?

Anyways the dishonor system or at least I hope will address the issue on release of HoT.

Rym.1469:

Funny fact I saw, Druids start PvP match with 100% filled Astral Force.

funny fact necros are a light armor tank class. How does that work?

You run into this guy.

This happens now every time I go to PVE and back to pvp. I have to go to a custom server to fix it every time.

Would love to get an ANET response that at the very least it is being looked at.

brianjking.8924:

How does one enter “Spectator Mode” of a match?

Thanks!

To enter spectator mode, go to a custom server (Play PvP, left column click Game Browser) and upon entering it will be on the top left. If there is no ranger in game, leave the server and find another.

I am honestly ROFLMAO right now because it took me 3attempts and on the 2nd attempt I actually found a ranger with the same bug so I couldn’t do the fix.

I know we don’t have the stats, but there are times where they get disconnected, so a ban is not a good idea. Dishonor will fix the issue of people raging out.

This just happened to me too, spent over an hour trying to figure it out.
ANET this breaks the class completely in sPvP and even carries over into WvW and PVE . How in the world have you not fixed this yet

5 hours later Update:
Happened again after fighting teq. ANET you wonder why Rangers are so salty, is because you are constantly putting the ranger class on the back burner HoT or not. Took less than 24 hours to buff & nerf to the ground a skill, but you can’t even respond to a game breaking bug in the past 18 days?

This is a NASTY bug ANET needs to address this asap. Even shutting down the game and restarting it didn’t fix it.

brianjking fix worked for me put it can be painful if you can’t find a ranger on a server.

I am not harping on D/D ele. But it is still meta and a top tier class easily above others. To play the class does require skill and knowledge to make it successful, but the fact it is still in meta says something and how bad it really was before ANETs nerf. If ANET has any hope at all in making it into esports, they need to start balancing the classes much quicker. The fact that ESL has to ban certain items speaks volumes of ANET’s pace to address it.

How is it that a light armor class is the tankiest of all the classes?

Thank you! I have been trying to figure out myself and it is centralized around sPvP/WvW it seems. The skill lag is painful at the moment.

Why? Honestly it was the only thing that separated PvP from PvE with the exception of finishers.

Labjax.2465:

The only thing I’ve heard about tomes is that you won’t be able to use them to level masteries.

Limiting tomes to once a day use in general wouldn’t make any sense, other than annoying people. It sounds like something somebody drummed up out of boredom and it spread through paranoia.

What he said ^^^ it would take 80 days to level a character 80 then. That is 2 months and 20 days and even if you are a casual player it shouldn’t take that long to get to 80.

(Also lets be honest if you play sPvP you will end up with stacks and stacks of tomes.)

atlrising.5134:

This is a horrible strat, it takes the competitiveness out of the pvp mode and makes it so every fight is +2 or more. Can you please do something to discourage teams from relying so much on hugging each other and challenge them to develop skill.

part of the game. Balance is more concerning than zerging at the moment.

been wanting this for months if not since courtyard came out a year and half ago. I get a lot of people hate courtyard, but honestly it is very much needed.

Drennon.7190:

Wolfs Shadow.7234:

sinject.4607:

Natsuaga.5980:

Well I’ve seen a lot of D/D ele here. I’ll give it a try but it’s not something that immediately catches my interest unfortunately. I’ll give it 10 or so games and see how it goes, thanks

Was surprised to see Power Ranger being mentioned. I play a power ranger and while it feels decent to me I see a ton of people saying it’s no good.

it’s only good thanks to them not balancing Beastly Warden at all. the fact that it’s bugged and goes through every form of defense (evades, blinds, invulns, blocks) further makes it “good”.

rangers are so desperate to be viable they resort to exploiting a bug en masse.

That is actually very amusing. You call it broken, but Rangers do have skills that are unblockable.
And honestly, calling out a ranger? Should I point out the D/D & Vampirism?

A callout to all Rangers we need you guys to stop using Beastly Warden as 1 player considers it an exploit. hahahaha

This was a necro’d thread. Read the date that he posted that. When he posted that Beastly Warden was bugged and was working through dodge, block, etc etc. You look silly.

hahahaahah what is silly is the fact that Beastly Warden is the only viable trait in the traitline worth a kitten . To call out rangers for using a bug as if every rangers was purposely exploiting is the most amusing and pathetic excuse there is.

The date is irrelevant.

sinject.4607:

Natsuaga.5980:

Well I’ve seen a lot of D/D ele here. I’ll give it a try but it’s not something that immediately catches my interest unfortunately. I’ll give it 10 or so games and see how it goes, thanks

Was surprised to see Power Ranger being mentioned. I play a power ranger and while it feels decent to me I see a ton of people saying it’s no good.

it’s only good thanks to them not balancing Beastly Warden at all. the fact that it’s bugged and goes through every form of defense (evades, blinds, invulns, blocks) further makes it “good”.

rangers are so desperate to be viable they resort to exploiting a bug en masse.

That is actually very amusing. You call it broken, but Rangers do have skills that are unblockable.
And honestly, calling out a ranger? Should I point out the D/D & Vampirism?

A callout to all Rangers we need you guys to stop using Beastly Warden as 1 player considers it an exploit. hahahaha

I think you see less QQ because people are just giving up on ANET

InsidiousWaffle.7086:

I don’t play necro. However, I do play ranger, and as a ranger I feel like Astral Form steps all over necros tankyness while having good dps and group support. How do you guys feel about it?

I have a hard time believing you play ranger at all. Necro can eat rangers alive (literally).

I have to be honest I am shocked this game is even on ESL.

Exedore.6320:

ANet said there would be some settling time after a patch before they start a league. HoT release will have a patch, so at least 2 weeks before they start up. Maybe more depending on how bad it is.

Sigh that logic alone is why this game will never get to esport level.

Permafrost.2695:

So I continue to see ridiculous match-ups. For example, my current loss streak is entirely on one individual poor player and/or troll. I keep queuing solo and he’s on my team. I know score doesn’t mean skill, but, uh, just look at this last game. How does this happen?

Just thought I’d point this out that low score means nothing. If I play bunker I want to be the lowest score. If I have the highest that means my team or myself isn’t doing its job properly. Score doesn’t take in account holding a cap, healing team or removing conditions.

Granted the player in the screen is a warrior, so not sure if that holds up at all.

sPvP is turning into a joke. If you go with a 5 man necro premade you are guaranteed a win. I shouldn’t have to sacrifice all my utility slots for condition removals. This game has turned into singular builds which is awful.

How has match making gotten so bad. I honestly just witnessed one of the worst games I’ve ever played…. and we were the victors. We had to explain the to point of conquest to the opposing team. Not one of them played pvp before.

Alekt.5803:

How about no? For the sake of diversity.

Diversity of build exists. And I’ve had enough of being punished for playing staff elementalist. I could not be matched in some competitive teams due to the class limits because 2 d/d eles are common ground while I share nearly nothing with d/d cantrip as a air earth arcane no cantrip build.

That is your argument? One of the biggest issues surrounding GW2 is balance problems which have been consistent for nearly 3 years. To say it is lack of diversity is incredibly wrong. There is no diversity at the moment. There is a reason why these kind of team builds exist. http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_4_Ele_Balanced

And more to the point why 500-100 matches are consistent as well. One team that has a stack of a “OP” class will likely to win.

Staying stuck in the old ways isn’t going to help this game progress.

It is the era of condition wars. I feel bad for the melee classes the most.

runeblade.7514:

Jasher.6580:

Thief is NOT the weakest class in PvP.

Yes, that title goes to the ranger.

Thank you, wonder if ANET has been asleep at the wheel for 2 years.

Not a good patch to me. Still broken

princode.2750:

1. remove HOT join
(i dun even see a reason why its there)
2. remove spirit watch, skyhammer and courtyard
(these 3 map is the worst…80% of the ppl hate this map)

Do you have stats to back that up or is that just your egotistical opinion?

I love courtyard win or loss. It is a change of pace, scenery and match up. Conquest gets old and boring quick. Play ranked if you dislike the maps you stated in #2.

Hotjoin, I would agree, but I prefer players practice there than in unranked.

Similar to smite, and any other MOBA. Yeah, yeah I know this game isn’t classified as a MOBA, but can anyone find an argument or justification of having more than one class on each team besides Queue time.

As much as I love the 4 d/d & 1 theif premades that roamed ranked a month back.

I cannot express this enough to ANET, you need to test these builds thoroughly before launch. PVP rage is going to be at an all time high. This isn’t just meant for necro either. I have only tested necro so far, but wow the damage output is unreal.

shadowpass.4236:

Kailee.8790:

AgitatedFox.5287:

Kitty.1502:

Dradiin.8935:

Wolfey.3407:

Guys, please keep things constructive and classy.

You have ANETs full undivided attention, really… you do at the moment. I’ve talked to Gaile for a while last night and I can assure you she is not giving you lip service to make you feel better and forget about this.

I volunteered to help out this week and early next week to do reports for Ranger & Druid as well. If they would like, I will be more than glad to include Ranger & Druid into my weekly reports alongside PvP.

TDLR:
Don’t make kitten out of your selves, you have anets full attention, don’t waste it or use it to take a quick puck shot at someone.

Look i truly do appreciate you coming here and advocating restraint, for me if this was 3 years ago i would be restrained. It’s is 3 years later, i have been restrained enough, i have been patient enough, i have dealt with all the neglect and outright undeserved mistreatment, i do not claim to speak for others but i bet deep down alot of those of us who main Rangers are FED UP.

Do you think Warriors would be happy if there New Elite Spec line was to be a healer ?

If Roy up and decided Warriors might stacking needed to be nerfed just like he decided WHaO was to be changed so drastically, that the Warrior community would be happy and pleased ?

It is years and years of this type of treatment, and it falls squarely on the shoulders of the developers.

While i will restrain from outright vitriolic statements, i am no longer going to be passive and let this continue without making it understood.

Please don’t tell me to relax it’s just i game, i know that, but it is the game i decide to place hours of my time into, hundreds of dollars into. I can choose to do this with another game, i don’t i choose this game, and i chose the Ranger as my favorite 3 years ago, and not once on that day did i think how great it would be to become a healer. . . Noe is it exciting to be barred from joining upper tier content because my class is so unreasonably useless compared to others.

/signed This is exactly how I feel. 3 years of neglect is enough.

Thirded

Fourth, /Signed

Enough is Enough Anet =(

I’m the fifth.
Please. Its really upsetting, seeing what Anet has been doing to rangers for 3 years.
/signed

/signed

style.6173:

You’d be playing by yourself or you’d end up with a looooooooong queue time.

And you have factual data to back that up?

mistsim.2748:

I’m still fighting mostly d/d eles in my bracket, and the team with the most d/d’s is winning easily. the amount of cleansing, burning, sustain and mobility is outright insane.

could we hotfix some d/d balance balance changes like we did with the OP ranger? I didn’t know you guys could hotfix balance changes, and seeing how this balance pass was ultimately a failure after 4 months of waiting, a hotfix would be most appropriate I think.

I am laughing so hard at the fact that players have any weight in how classes are balanced. It should be based on stats and stats alone. This is where ANET made their biggest mistake nerfing a class based on the salty tears of the community now every players is going to expect if they rage hard enough they will get what they want.

You call ranger OP. At what point has ranger every been OP in the last 8 months? It has been 24/hours and we got nerfed from a buff. That isn’t even enough time to see if players are able to adapt to the change. Hell there isn’t even enough stats to justify the nerf.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Curious: I’m still at work. Have you guys played with WHaO yet since the change? I’ll be trotting out my Ranger tonight, but I wondered if you’re basing your thoughts on statistics — which I can respect — or on playtime — which also is valuable.

I played for about an hour or two tonight. It isn’t worth it. Because it takes 1sec to trigger “WHaO” you lose an additional second on every buff. To make it worse you need to time everything properly in addition to micro managing the pet to ensure it stays alive for the buff to be applied.

In comparison to “TU”, where you can remove 2 conditions, add fury, and have a higher heal count (with wilderness knowledge trait) simply put, WHaO is a bad choice in pvp.

SPESHAL.9106:

The nerf was definitely needed, but the fact that this went live to begin with evidences a problem internally that doesn’t bode well for Rangers.

It didn’t even take a super experienced Ranger to notice the ability to stack perma quickness within a few hours of the patch being live.

The fact that NOBODY noticed it internally tells you very few of them know the Ranger class that well and they must do almost no testing of changes prior to these patches going live.

In one respect, you have to give Anet kudos because overall the patch was pretty good…especially if they did limited testing…but it’s boneheaded mistakes like this that make you scratch your head and wonder how on earth it got live.

You do understand there are skills to remove buffs?
You do understand killing a rangers pet makes heal as one only apply self heal and doesn’t transfer anything?

I do agree the quickness needed to be addressed, but now they over nerfed it. It is absolutely useless to use in pvp.

Simply put this nerf was unjustified, untested, and unless you violate ToS, you’d need to use AutoHotkey just to be able to apply boons properly. The timing needs to be perfect to share boons with pets now.

DaShi.1368:

Aomine.5012:

At this point it’s no longer about whether it’s a buff or nerf anymore.

It’s how Anet sees ranger.

No, it’s not. The trait was not acting as intended. I’m sorry that you feel that rangers need broken traits to be competitive, but Anet is going to fix these regardless of what class. Both guardians and engineers had traits disabled because they were not acting as intended. It has nothing to do with class preference, but instead appropriate game balance.

Let’s not forget that it is still a buff from Heal As One.

I am sorry you are completely and utterly wrong. Heal As One was working as intended. What part of it wasn’t?

“We Heal As One!”: This skill now simultaneously copies all boons from your pet to you and from you to your pet.

Is your idea of balance to nerf and already low tier class? Heal As One is back to useless. The boon perk no longer is viable in pvp since boons can also be easily stripped. I truly enjoy how the community chose to ignore that fact.

Aomine.5012:

Nerfed version of WHaO:
3 stacks of might, 2 secs protection, 2 secs quickness when copied.
Worthless.

It took Anet 4 months to nerf PU that can stack 2 mins Stealth.

It took Anet 4 months to nerf D/D which is God-Mode in PVP.

It took Anet ONE DAY, no testing, no wait and see, to nerf ranger.

It’s ok for Warrior to give permanent 25 stacks of might and fury TO THE WHOLE PARTY.

It’s ok for Guardian to give long-lasting stability, protection, quickness TO THE WHOLE PARTY

It’s ok for Ele to give Permanent 25 stacks might, fury, protection TO THE WHOLE PARTY.

Yet it’s NOT ok for ranger to give 25 stacks might. protection, quickness “TO HIMSELF ONLY” with “EXTREME TRADEOFF”, and “BOUND THE WEAPON AND UTILITY”

Btw, that build which utilize WHaO is actually trash. Worse than regular build.
Minimal cleanse, one trick pony, burn crucial skills (heal, QZ, stunbreak) just for boons, low damage weapon sets. (Axe main-hand damage is pathetic, and you need torch and war-horn as off-hand, so low damage off-hand too). Also need to bring that trash “Guard” for the protection, which does absolutely nothing without WHaO.

Yet Anet doesn’t even wait and see, just outright nerf it in one day.

All they did is watch some youtube video which stack quickness in PVE against unharmful mobs as show-case. (Yes, pet swap quickness requires you to stay in combat to work, so it means you can only stack quickness during combat, which is a death sentence because you’re wasting QZ and your pet to do that. Plus after swap, all your pet’s protection, fury, might all gone, so you have to use everything during combat and leave you vulnerable for 40 secs)

Well said, one correction took 12 months to nerf d/d ele 25 stack

“We heal as one” just went from a plus to a bust in less than 24 hours. An amusing turn around and probably the quickest over reaction I’ve seen in this community since beta.

edit Also thank you Anet for the stealth nerf going from 13 boon transfer to now 11. May not seem like much but it does add salt to the wound.

o_0 than kill the pet hahahaaha I guess players will actually have to shoot at the pet instead of ignoring them for a change.

Pets were so bad even Rangers didn’t want them.

Ragnarox.9601:

so pet doing 9k dmg plus maul doing 8k….nice buffing and creating new power creep…GG AT BALANCING STUFF!!

ranger can do 20k dmg in 1 sec..thank you.

We have no idea what conditions were on you, what buffs the rangers had from other players (ever heard of a bunker guardian?) . In addition power rangers are squishy.

For nearly 5 months rangers were sub-par. The moment they are buffed people like you run to the forums and QQ, call nerf in less than a day. Can we at least see what happens in a week or 2. I mean honestly! the ele was meta for months.

Second bug explains a lot, and in turn has revealed a lot of toxic players along the way.
Some of the top I’ve seen as of late

“Noobs go back to pve and catch some crabs”
“My invisible mini pet is doing a better job capping than you nubs.”

But my favorite of them all, which I actually did lawl about.
“I am taking the Charles Darwin approach and raging quitting at least that way I don’t know whether all you die or not” – Kudos to those who understand that.

Have to give them points for creativity.

Mesmer is your best bet.

While the guardian burn is strong, the fact is can easily be passed back since they only have 1 condition to use (burning).

That is what this game has been dumbed down to. I commend the players that have posted suggested on balancing classes, but I have to ask is that the real problem? If you are a condition heavy class, you are likely in meta right now.

Solo queue isn’t even possible. Since the June/July patches 1 v1 isn’t even viable unless you are paired up against the same class.

Conquest in of itself has grown boring. I know a lot of people dislike stronghold, but to me it is a much needed change.

witcher.3197:

SAKRAY.3690:

I used to main a D/D Ele are they still any good??

DD ele is the single most OP build in existence right now.

closely followed by a cele necro

Had no idea it was a bug. I thought they just were insane tanks.