Guild Wars 2

someone must have confused ecto’s with exo’s

champ troll in hotw P1 should be a solid test subject as well

If you are running HIGH LEVEL FRACTALS shouldn’t you be wearing PVT/Cleric’s?

lol guys, seriously…

The LH will need 30 in fire for the fury though, unless the team has 2 warriors to rotate warbanners

looks like it will be best to have both in a group so the LH can keep blasting the lava font

colesy.8490:

Why don’t you answer Bright?

Like he said, if skipping wasn’t intended, why does leashing exist?

his answer in the other thread is something like: “that is not for skipping, it is to prevent farming”

was there so much whining about people doing speedclears in gw1?

AntiGW, this is your time to shine!

still need people to provide the might stacks though

Vox Hollow.2736:

@Wun
Really?
I’m going to wait with baited breath for the next thread you’re posting in. :p

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Guardian-PTV/first#post2984320

oh kitten my poppy tree got chopped

Brutaly.6257:

lol, ofc you can run full PVT in wvw.

73% crit chance with fury,from burning, your team or that you get hit.
53% crit chance
18,6k health
3160 armor
2274 power

its absolutely competitve today, if you fancy the play style, and it will be even more so after the 18th when it can be used with melandru and still maintain a decent uptime on fury.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQRAsd7elUgSD3GSOEfIFRuArHB8g+DXw1DIGxGC-jUCBofDim+I0EBBK7pIasFNERjtBoKbYqXER1mzFRrWGA9FA-w

fine, you win

dungeons ruin sellers.

runeblade.7514:

Wukunlin.8461:

runeblade.7514:

Redscope.6215:

Dirame.8521:

jportell.2197:

Daecollo.9578:

Kilandros.2098:

Don’t get me wrong, Guardian has access to a lot of heals—if you build and trait for them, that is. But when I go from playing my Warrior with Healing Signet to playing my Guardian I’m still amazed at how superior Warrior regeneration is with so little effort. For example, Healing Signet + Adrenal Health (minor trait) grants a warrior approximately 500 health per second in full Berserker gear and full Berserker trait. Pair that with Warrior’s health pool and I rarely ever pay any attention to my Warrior’s health in PvE gameplay. That’s pretty insane.

Currently Virtue of Resolve heals for ~100 with a full Berserker build. Now I’m not suggesting it be anywhere near Healing Signet, but surely increasing it to 150-200 wouldn’t be game breaking considering Guardian was given the lowest HP pool in exchange for “more healing”

So ya want it to be 250, then be able to 1250 hp/s (to 5 group.)

On a non-#6?

Sure, as long as you buff every single passive heal in the game to compensate.

Virtue of resolve coupled with AH coupled with Writ of the merciful and selfless daring… Guard HPS is fine. Warrior HPS is ridiculous because they aren’t sacrificing much to get a ton of healing… guardians sacrifice all damage to get their amazing heals.

Warriors sacrifice a burst heal for a 4k heal over 10 seconds.

Most heal skills cooldown once every 20-30 seconds. That means the warrior is getting a no-skill-required, non-interruptible heal as good as 8-12k every time any other class would be able to use their skill-based heal.

You don’t see a problem with that? You’ve gotta be kidding….

Stop mistaking heal with regen because Healing signet is NOT a healing skill.

Healing signet is a regen skill.

Warriors can only depend on Healing signet for regen only.

Guardians can depend on regeneration and a burst heal.

that is all well and good but if you look at the numbers: traited VoR + traited signet of resolve still heal for less over 32 seconds (assuming you spam SoR on cd)

vs. a regen that doesn’t allow the cost of no burst heal on demand.

can you rephrase that please?

there was a thread a while ago about some guy who got kicked from cof p1 because he was wearing scholar instead of ruby orbs

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Wukunlin.8461:

I change my stance all the time

Wow, stances are for noobs. Shouts or gtfo

but… but… http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vigorous_Focus

Are you sure you want a tanky heal build? Glass cannon guardians are perfectly viable in dungeons. In fact a lot of us believe this is the best set up.

Btw, healing power scales very badly in this game, most likely to prevent the tank-dps-healer playstyle. Tanking is also a questionable mechanic due to the amount of aoes dungeon mobs/bosses do.

I change my stance all the time

Pretty sure someone calculated that you don’t even need to be 90% for the majority, like for 30 percent of the time or something?

runeblade.7514:

Redscope.6215:

Dirame.8521:

jportell.2197:

Daecollo.9578:

Kilandros.2098:

Don’t get me wrong, Guardian has access to a lot of heals—if you build and trait for them, that is. But when I go from playing my Warrior with Healing Signet to playing my Guardian I’m still amazed at how superior Warrior regeneration is with so little effort. For example, Healing Signet + Adrenal Health (minor trait) grants a warrior approximately 500 health per second in full Berserker gear and full Berserker trait. Pair that with Warrior’s health pool and I rarely ever pay any attention to my Warrior’s health in PvE gameplay. That’s pretty insane.

Currently Virtue of Resolve heals for ~100 with a full Berserker build. Now I’m not suggesting it be anywhere near Healing Signet, but surely increasing it to 150-200 wouldn’t be game breaking considering Guardian was given the lowest HP pool in exchange for “more healing”

So ya want it to be 250, then be able to 1250 hp/s (to 5 group.)

On a non-#6?

Sure, as long as you buff every single passive heal in the game to compensate.

Virtue of resolve coupled with AH coupled with Writ of the merciful and selfless daring… Guard HPS is fine. Warrior HPS is ridiculous because they aren’t sacrificing much to get a ton of healing… guardians sacrifice all damage to get their amazing heals.

Warriors sacrifice a burst heal for a 4k heal over 10 seconds.

Most heal skills cooldown once every 20-30 seconds. That means the warrior is getting a no-skill-required, non-interruptible heal as good as 8-12k every time any other class would be able to use their skill-based heal.

You don’t see a problem with that? You’ve gotta be kidding….

Stop mistaking heal with regen because Healing signet is NOT a healing skill.

Healing signet is a regen skill.

Warriors can only depend on Healing signet for regen only.

Guardians can depend on regeneration and a burst heal.

that is all well and good but if you look at the numbers: traited VoR + traited signet of resolve still heal for less over 32 seconds (assuming you spam SoR on cd)

it says that on the trait description but when I used it I actually saw my toughness go up by 150 on my heros window. Have you checked it that way?

I don’t know why a lot of people think glass cannons are less viable in higher level fractals. My smoothest runs (48s) are all with glass cannons. Whenever there is a bunker or 2 in the group the uninstallation button looked much more appealing

I just died when running trash

imo it is barely ranged, and barely a weapon (like you said, crap damage). It really is only good for might stacks before a fight (assuming your party doesn’t use firefields). It is also good for encounters that has dps and non dps phases (eg snow fractals boss, simins, maybe ghosteater). I don’t really bother getting a good skin for my guardian because I really don’t see myself using it much aside from open world running.

guys c’mon, the OP’s group is actually playing the game

thewamba.5203:

if you’re gonna kitten that much about the game….stop playing? seeing the negative player base 24/7 in every part of the forums is getting discouraging.. or is this how every mmo forum works? i stopped checking in because of this, but i want to be able to enjoy the forums without all the hate.

if you’re that unhappy, maybe it’s not the game for you; that’s ok! Maybe you think gw1 blows gw2 out of the water…that’s also ok. But why be upset that gw2 isn’t gw1? why not just play and enjoy gw1? There is nothing wrong with disliking this game, but there is no need to complain so consistently about it. They are not so much helpful suggestions as they are just posts demanding something from anet or whining about the company and its game. Much like this post is just whining about whiners.

sincerely,
a player who also may want a thing or two to change but thoroughly enjoys the game and is satisfied playing it.

the exact same can be said about you reading the forums.

how about an option to make it invisible in PVE but force it to show in wvw and pvp?

so that’s why I kept dying

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

DigitalKirin.9714:

LOSing is an exploit because the game is meant to be played a certain way and LOSing violates that preconceived notion.

You thought you could just sneak that in there, didn’t you?

LOL

Oxxy.7068:

Ins’t there a dev post somewhere saying that skipping is fine and intended?

I think RH said it is fine and he was trying to think of something that makes people want to kill them.

And lolz some people must think hitting big hp sponge mobs = all of the game.

Rathore.9348:

Wukunlin.8461:

what do I do when the team insists that there is little use kiting the ooze into the pools?

They probably gave up on kiting because they don’t know to play. So, as in all PUG groups, take control and be willing to demonstrate how to do things.

Take the pheromone yourself and kite the ooze yourself into pools.

The smart players will see, learn, and cooperate. If you are indeed stuck with a bunch of idiots who won’t “watch and learn” then just politely leave the group.

wait, is there a way to control who gets the pheromone? (probably a stupid question but I’ve only been there once, and that was trying to help some folks who’s stuck in that spot for 7+ hours)

elementalists’ bountiful power (25 points in water magic) does the exact same thing. It used to be 2% damage boost from boons but apparently that was too powerful in pvp so they nerfed it to be the same as power of the virtuous.

I feel like anet want the trait in this state, logical or not.

AntiGw.9367:

Wukunlin.8461:

AntiGw.9367:

As for players, many of them aren’t actually playing the game my way, they use efficient strats and watch the gold number in their wallet going up. If the dungeons weren’t giving gold, they wouldn’t even be there.

And of course, they are always harassed by the some other playerbase jealous of their “watching gold number” game until their “tactics” involves carrying them in dungeons, instead of enjoying the game itself.

FTFY

Are you suggesting that watching a number go up is just a “way to play this game”? Because I can recommend a game that does it better: Microsoft Excel.

This game is about dungeons and monsters. If your “way” is to avoid all that, than you really should be playing something else.

whoa what happened to “I play how I want”? elitism much?

How about those who jump on every single negative feedback every created, nitpick on the unimportant details and derail those threads?

akamon.2769:

interesting how some people still think hammer does little DPS or accomplishes little. don’t get me wrong, i loev the GS and there are situations where i’ll pick GS or sword or whatever else over hammer. but to say hammer is not worth it? in various situations? i beg to differ. : ))

the AA being slow (which is a fact) might be a personal preference thing for someone to hate or embrace it. but to say it’s less effective because of that is stretching it, imo.

I wanted to show them the maths on the actually damage difference but I think things get complicated since this thread appear to be more about GvG where the assumption of every single symbol tick will hit the target becomes… a little more optimistic

if only prestige hits as hard as vevina’s

AntiGw.9367:

As for players, many of them aren’t actually playing the game my way, they use efficient strats and watch the gold number in their wallet going up. If the dungeons weren’t giving gold, they wouldn’t even be there.

And of course, they are always harassed by the some other playerbase jealous of their “watching gold number” game until their “tactics” involves carrying them in dungeons, instead of enjoying the game itself.

FTFY

That happened to James when lupi was at like 2% health and instantly kicked him in the face

laharl.8435:

Oxxy.7068:

@Laharl – as Wukunlin (at least i think it was him) pointed this out for me on another thread, but as long you wait for your team to lay the fire field before starting to auto attack with your hammer the fire field should be fine, the blasts will work on the first field that was put down in case they’re overlaping.

Yes, I’m aware of the mechanics of fields. I’m not talking about the beginning of the fight, but in the middle. In my group, ele generally opens with fire field. We hit 25 stacks quite fast. Then guard will often use purging flames or hallowed ground for continued blasting to stay at 25. If the guard is spamming hammer auto, you’ll end up comboing that in the middle of fights.

if you drop hallowed right after you drop a SoP, there should only be about 1 second (both consecrations take at least 1 second to lay down including animation and aftercast duration) of light field on top where you may get 1 area retal or 2 if you use multiple LH eles but the remaining 9 seconds should all be blasting area might. Very rarely the fields will bug out but it doesn’t happen often enough for me to worry about.

^That was haviz :P

I can only think of one encounter where the team may need to move out of my protection symbol: the guardian boss in CM who puts down her own symbol that does quite a bit of damage. In which case we move to a different LoS spot and I lay down another protection symbol…..

I guess what some of us are trying to say is, you don’t need to sacrifice a lot of dps to provide boons. Heals… well if you looks at the amount you can aoe heal over time comparing to the dps of mobs you will find they are extremely one sided no matter how much healing power you put in. Basically heals are for instances like when you miss a dodge or something instead of constantly spammed for sustain.

As for build recommendations, if you want to go full support you can start with:
15/15/0/30/10 with supeior aria (more shouts = spewing out more boons), empowering might (spew out might stacks), pure of voice (turn condi to boon), and master of consecrations (projectile reflection or stability or condi removal). The hammer is the best support weapon imo with pretty much 100% protection up time for the whole team out of the box. 15 points in zeal (choose fiery wrath for more damage) lets you put some vulnerability stack on mobs when using your hammer so your teammates can do more damage. 15 points in radiance (choose blind exposure for more vuln stacks) let’s you spam F1 and can keep trash mobs blinded so your teammates take a lot less damage.

Angilos.4907:

I think PuGs are the worst way to do dungeons and would recommend every player out there find a core group they can do dungeons with, other wise you’ll have a bad time.

QFT

lol, that would free up the space taken by my 2 bank tabs of hammer skins

I think it is a better idea for the OP to try those builds and probably invest in rare versions of those defensive setups and let him see for himself whether his group actually has dps covered.

guardian dps is one of the highest assuming the same buffs are applied (including warrior banners… meaning your group needs at least one warrior). It is only the solo dps that isn’t great because guardians have very little offensive utilities.

condi is terrible in pve, pretty decent for solo content but in a group your bleed stacks are likely overwritten by other classes with bleed on crit traits and such.

Elric of Grans.7684:

I have a Shatter Mesmer

bosses and trashmobs in dungeons generally have so much health that you need some sustained dps, which means phantasm builds are better in general

Elric of Grans.7684:

a Flamethrower Engineer

no

Elric of Grans.7684:

a D/D Stealth Thief.

D/D has the highest single target dps so it is good. Just be aware that a thief in stealth is a thief not doing damage, so the only purpose of going in steal is to use back stab

first spy kits, now this. Everytime I decide to buy a stack of something, this kitten happens

who the kitten has been telling you that? o_O