Guild Wars 2

Yea you can notice the lack of gap closers sadly

I’d love to see some procs that you need to react to. Like say you have an ability with a long cool down but your condi ticks can proceed a reduction blind it’s cd. Something that you see it pop up and it alters how you play. I think depending on how it’s done could throw a wrench in the meta. Maybe procs on getting hit. What if you could do more damage by taking more damage? Tank stats would be VERY important to that playstyle.

Every game has a meta for all areas of play. If there is a best way to do things in terms of damage there will always be a meta. I have no issues with this idea because I do the same thing. I find out what stats I need to do the big numbers and go with them. The issues with how the meta works in gw2 is that EVERYONE’S best option is berserker at the moment. You an ele? Zerker… You a warrior? Zerker….. I could go on. I do wish different classes had different stats that their damage scales from. When I played wow it gave a lot of class identity to speak with my warrior friend about gear. As a death knight I had the stats that worked best for my damage and they were different than the optimal choice for my friend. A lot of it has to do with class based reactive procs that I don’t believe exists in gw2 (correct me if im wrong). Everything’s best option being the same is soooo boring.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Here’s a simple question to people who aren’t happy with some of us choosing to not run zerker in some situations. If I had my reaper in valk gear would you speed run with me or would you demand I run zerk?

No, because I would take the Zerker Reaper instead because I am not going to kitten my group because you want to gloat about your higher health pool.

Despite what you claim less crit chance = less damage. There isn’t even a debate there.

With that said, The solution to this whole problem is simple.

Here I made a simple diagram for people to use when joining parties. It will solve all of the problems.

That’s the problem…. everyone thinks zerker is the best gear for everything. Are you aware that a Reaper in valk gear has the same power as zerker, the same ferocity as zerker, and over 100% critical chance? Anything over 100% probably isn’t helpful lol oh and with valk a lot more health. Did you know all of that or just assume zerker was best?

If you’re talking about the new elite Profession Reaper, it’s not in game yet so scolding people about assuming zerker stats is best for a non existent profession is pointless.

Well I just assumed these super pro speed clearing theory crafters do their homework right? Or do they just listen and follow? Lol

They are doing their math and homework on existing professions, not something that might be months from now and could be changed before it gets here. Pointless comparisons are pointless.

Uh hu…….

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Here’s a simple question to people who aren’t happy with some of us choosing to not run zerker in some situations. If I had my reaper in valk gear would you speed run with me or would you demand I run zerk?

No, because I would take the Zerker Reaper instead because I am not going to kitten my group because you want to gloat about your higher health pool.

Despite what you claim less crit chance = less damage. There isn’t even a debate there.

With that said, The solution to this whole problem is simple.

Here I made a simple diagram for people to use when joining parties. It will solve all of the problems.

That’s the problem…. everyone thinks zerker is the best gear for everything. Are you aware that a Reaper in valk gear has the same power as zerker, the same ferocity as zerker, and over 100% critical chance? Anything over 100% probably isn’t helpful lol oh and with valk a lot more health. Did you know all of that or just assume zerker was best?

If you’re talking about the new elite Profession Reaper, it’s not in game yet so scolding people about assuming zerker stats is best for a non existent profession is pointless.

Well I just assumed these super pro speed clearing theory crafters do their homework right? Or do they just listen and follow? Lol

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Here’s a simple question to people who aren’t happy with some of us choosing to not run zerker in some situations. If I had my reaper in valk gear would you speed run with me or would you demand I run zerk?

No, because I would take the Zerker Reaper instead because I am not going to kitten my group because you want to gloat about your higher health pool.

Despite what you claim less crit chance = less damage. There isn’t even a debate there.

With that said, The solution to this whole problem is simple.

Here I made a simple diagram for people to use when joining parties. It will solve all of the problems.

That’s the problem…. everyone thinks zerker is the best gear for everything. Are you aware that a Reaper in valk gear has the same power as zerker, the same ferocity as zerker, and over 100% critical chance? Anything over 100% probably isn’t helpful lol oh and with valk a lot more health. Did you know all of that or just assume zerker was best?

Lol, Precision > Vitality 100% of the time.

What good is precision when you have over 100% critical with 0 precision?

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Here’s a simple question to people who aren’t happy with some of us choosing to not run zerker in some situations. If I had my reaper in valk gear would you speed run with me or would you demand I run zerk?

No, because I would take the Zerker Reaper instead because I am not going to kitten my group because you want to gloat about your higher health pool.

Despite what you claim less crit chance = less damage. There isn’t even a debate there.

With that said, The solution to this whole problem is simple.

Here I made a simple diagram for people to use when joining parties. It will solve all of the problems.

That’s the problem…. everyone thinks zerker is the best gear for everything. Are you aware that a Reaper in valk gear has the same power as zerker, the same ferocity as zerker, and over 100% critical chance? Anything over 100% probably isn’t helpful lol oh and with valk a lot more health. Did you know all of that or just assume zerker was best?

This is the deal with wings

Nah, that reaper has access to evades and mobility. However I see he chose dhuumfire. Interesting choice

Here’s a simple question to people who aren’t happy with some of us choosing to not run zerker in some situations. If I had my reaper in valk gear would you speed run with me or would you demand I run zerk?

Dinks.2478:

Slowing down a meta speedrun even a little bit when you know the intention of the group instead of just making your own anybody welcome group is spiteful, trolling, griefing, and I would even go as far as to say LFG abuse.

You think they don’t notice because they’re too polite to complain. But you always notice when your times are off, even if its just a few seconds.

Now, with all of that aside. If you hate Zerker meta so bad why do you want to ride on the coattails of their dungeon runs? Join an anybody welcome LFG and have fun just playing the game. Since that is apparently your goal right? No, you have to ride the coattails of the zerker metas speedruns because even you don’t want to spend 40 minutes doing the same dungeons over and over.

What slows groups down more, me in non zerker gear or bad meta pugs thinking they are doing it right because DNT told them to wiping because they are bad. A lot of my meta only runs I end up carrying them because I’m a better player than a lot of them. And that’s the kittening point, skill > gear in a situation where you don’t know your group and how skilled they are. In premades and guild groups you bet your kitten I’m in meta gear because then it matters. It means jack kitten when bad players think they’re good because they are in “optimal” gear. So no, it’s not trolling or griefing, it’s saving my own time in the event my group sucks.

Thaddeus.4891:

Dinks.2478:

I don’t know why I bother with these conversations. Nothing but children going on about how they purposely spite people who want to play differently than them. Why anet doesn’t ban these trolls is beyond me.

To be honest man. I’m super annoyed at what Zalavaaris.5329 say, but he’s kind of right. He completly lack respect for the group that specifically ask for meta, but one guy in soldier or cleric if he do his job decently, won’t affect much the dungeon. People that run meta don’t have that high dps anyway. In pugs they don’t run food, utility, they rarely have perma 25 of vulnerability, they leave the icebow on the ground, don’t deep freeze properly, have poor rotation, leave the warrior alone so one banner is left behind, etc. Just by all that, the dps of the group will vary more than one guy using soldier. So in the end people don’t notice.

If i’m in a guild group and one of use is in soldier, now that will show. Or if one guy is in soldier and the 4 other guys are bad or have bad build, then it will show. But for the vast majority, it won’t make a difference. That’s why I never bother with asking zerker or meta.

Again, that’s a complete lack of respect for other players on his part, but he’s right that he doesn’t make his group suffer. They just never notice it.

I run zerk with guild groups, I run soldier or valk in pugs to prove a point. A lot of times the groups will say hey good run, or good time and at the end of the run. Then I’ll say oh hey I’ve been in soldiers the entire time. You know how people usually react? Wow…. a necro in soldier gear doing that well? What ever we will invite you to future groups anyway. Know what I do then? Run zerker

Thanks for understanding my point

Dinks.2478:

I don’t know why I bother with these conversations. Nothing but children going on about how they purposely spite people who want to play differently than them. Why anet doesn’t ban these trolls is beyond me.

Choosing to take less precision and instead taking vitality while still contributing to a speedy clear =/= griefing

That mentality thinking that just a slight difference in gear is completely throwing off the group and obviously the cause for any problems with the run is ruining this game and dividing this community. You should be ashamed of yourself if you love this game

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Again, if you don’t follow the Meta due to any reason just link zerk gear and carry on using your valk or clerics. The best part is you can be in speed runs, make the fast profits, NOBODY will know, and it kind of sticks it to the zerker meta crowd. It’s a total win ROFL

So your solution to the non-existent zerker problem is to be a jerk and ruin other peoples days because you can’t be bothered to type “LFG <dungeon> <path> all are welcome”? If the meta crowd is such a minority like you people make it out to be you’ll fill up really fast right?

Yep… that’s pretty much the case. After being cursed at and ridiculed for the gear (usually soldier or valk) or build I choose to run when in reality it adds barely anytime (because I’ve played since bwes so I know what I’m doing) I’m pretty sick of those people. It’s almost fun to do it out of spite at this point. It’s going to be even BETTER in HOT because I can be a Reaper with over 100% critical and Zerker amounts of power and crit dmg from valk gear.

So, you’re the problem with this game. People like you who would rather ruin the fun of others than just play with like-minded individuals. I hope you get banned.

Dawdler.8521:

I find meta peeps amusing. Gives me a reason to even play.

In WvW, there is this guy always going on and on in TS with “big symbols? Who use that? Noooooob lolololol”. I use it because I always run my braindead zerger Guardian as full Nomad, tons of constant AoE healing so meh, who cares. I picked the trait and havent bothered changing it.

But he obviously does care. So I make it my personal task to always drop my symbol on him.

True story.

I’m not sure what your full nomads Guardian has to do with this PvE meta conversation.

See you believing I’m the problem makes you the problem. Guess what… I dont wipe our groups, I use the strats, I do everything a good dungeon runner should. But I use my own gear choices like the game intends. And you what? Our times are still fast with me in soldier gear. I get away with it because nobody notices…. nobodies fun is ruined and i’ve got a few people on my friends list now because they have seen me play. You can’t pull off what I do if you’re a bad player. So yea….. ban me ROFL

Dawdler.8521:

I find meta peeps amusing. Gives me a reason to even play.

In WvW, there is this guy always going on and on in TS with “big symbols? Who use that? Noooooob lolololol”. I use it because I always run my braindead zerger Guardian as full Nomad, tons of constant AoE healing so meh, who cares. I picked the trait and havent bothered changing it.

But he obviously does care. So I make it my personal task to always drop my symbol on him.

True story.

ROFL what’s he gonna do? Kick you out of wvw Lol

Dinks.2478:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Again, if you don’t follow the Meta due to any reason just link zerk gear and carry on using your valk or clerics. The best part is you can be in speed runs, make the fast profits, NOBODY will know, and it kind of sticks it to the zerker meta crowd. It’s a total win ROFL

So your solution to the non-existent zerker problem is to be a jerk and ruin other peoples days because you can’t be bothered to type “LFG <dungeon> <path> all are welcome”? If the meta crowd is such a minority like you people make it out to be you’ll fill up really fast right?

Yep… that’s pretty much the case. After being cursed at and ridiculed for the gear (usually soldier or valk) or build I choose to run when in reality it adds barely anytime (because I’ve played since bwes so I know what I’m doing) I’m pretty sick of those people. It’s almost fun to do it out of spite at this point. It’s going to be even BETTER in HOT because I can be a Reaper with over 100% critical and Zerker amounts of power and crit dmg from valk gear.

Again, if you don’t follow the Meta due to any reason just link zerk gear and carry on using your valk or clerics. The best part is you can be in speed runs, make the fast profits, NOBODY will know, and it kind of sticks it to the zerker meta crowd. It’s a total win ROFL

Wear what ever gear you want, soldier etc and keep a set of zerker gear in your bags. When people have you link your gear just link them the zerk gear. There’s no dps meter so you will win in that situation.

Tim.6450:

I do aggree with Ronpierce on this one, it’s to strong for a adept minor but to be quite honest it easily conflicts with siphoned power. So I suggest scrapping it and changing it something group orientated, a damage modifier or something (like while in DS gain a buff off 10 seconds that gives 5% damage ).

It would be too strong for an adept minor if the system still allowed you to go into a trait line partially without investing in the whole line. However, this isn’t the case so it doesn’t matter if it’s an adept minor or a grand master.

Anything we get as necro’s should ONLY be a benefit. Any drawbacks at all won’t help us push our way up the wanted class list. There are so many better pve options than necro and our dps is sometimes half of other classes. Any benefit we get would have to DOUBLE our dps to match some out there. If it’s not doubled by something then that something isn’t even as strong as it should be but it would be useable.

I don’t agree that doubling life blasts cast speed (if damage were cut in half) would warrant any changes to traits around the skill. Those traits are why people want the faster attacks. We want faster burning stacks, faster might stacks, faster vuln, etc. Nerfing those at the same time is a side grade and wouldn’t mean jack kitten.

You said it’s too good for reapers…. imply a nerf… you’re wrong if that’s the case

Being selfish and not contributing to the group is kind of a necro’s thing. Self maintaining 25 might is exactly what we need. Don’t do or say anything to make the devs think otherwise. Unless you are some sort of other class spy trying to get our usefulness removed.

As long as I can still quickly stack 25 might and maintain it on my reaper using reapers might i’ll be happy. If not….. riot

Zenith.7301:

Why are you nerfing Reaper’s Might instead of buffing Chilling Victory.

I don’t understand it, we’re balancing a necromancer within a vacuum instead of taking a look at what the strong classes have.

Necromancer self might buffing is hardly a problem….

Woa woa woa…. who said anything about nerfing reapers might?!? Have a source or is this just talk?

Daddar.5971:

free pony mount.

Mounts confirmed

I’m just imagining a berserker geared for condi dmg and tanky with dire gear….. it’s gonna be scary

Oh my GOD this OP is grasping at straws…. please arena net, keep communicating with us. This kind of person is not your average consumer.

Captain Unusual.9163:

Foot in the Grave is a stun breaker, Eternal Champion is a preventative measure. Y’know, just like Infusing Terror.

Wish infusing terror lasted for as long as we are in shroud. They even have 10% attack speed to add on top of it if I recall correctly. 5% less than reapers onslaught but still… they got a hell of a spec.

I’m kind of bummed as a necro main honestly because our slow moving high damage unstoppable spec has just witnessed a fast moving, high damage, unstoppable spec. I mean we really needed something to make us feel unstoppable so we got pulsing stab on reaper shroud for like 8 seconds. Warriors get a trait that constantly pulses it with no cd? We get low damage chill with a stack maximum of 5 that had limited means of application. Warrior gets the most devastating condi in the game and seem to apply it on everything. We needed fire fields and blast finishers…. warrior now gets more of those. I just feel bummed with my ES now.

Sylvari!!! I’ll send a pic when I get back to my pc

I want pulsing stab in shroud baseline and have rs 3 reworked to match this

ScribeTheMad.7614:

Really, you think you’re buying a stack of 100 mining picks that each have only a single use? Seriously, don’t be silly.

Actually yea thats what I thought. Because after I use it for a couple of whacks it seems to break and use another.

Behellagh.1468:

I’m complaining about the forum software, not that you didn’t realize this was still being talked about yesterday on another thread.

Touche good sir or madam. Good on you unwarranted snippyness apology

Behellagh.1468:

Lack of forum search strikes again.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Merging-Salvage-Kits

I’ll find a way to live with myself

Hey everyone, i’m not sure if this has been answered or not but is there a reason we can’t stack Salvage kits to 250? They take up a lot of bag space

To be fair, we kinda counter a lot of condition builds too lol

Crossaber.8934:

dsslive.8473:

Crossaber.8934:

Vayne.8563:

Astralporing.1957:

phys.7689:

i dont think most mmo players want to get everything without playing the game. pretty sure its a very small minority of players than want the dungeon title but dont want to do any dungeons.

Sure, but they might want dungeons they themselves will be able to run. Remember, for a large part of population dungeons, even the really easy ones, are still hard. Forumites, when compared to the rest of the population, are generally exceptionally skilled and esperienced – you shouldn’t assume everyone is around your skill level, or even around you skill potential. There are many players that will never come close, no matter how hard they will try. What you might consider a moderate level of difficulty, that should be cleared by anyone with a little effort, is most likely prohibitively hard to many, many players.

I went into TA this week with a party of five. We didn’t get past the wurms in the beginning after three tries. Two people left the party and with those people replaced, we beat the wurms in no time flat.

Those two people, one of whom was new, one has been playing since launch. Sure eventually they might get it, but everyone has a different discouragement threshold.

Also if dungeons could be soloed, I’m convinced a lot more people would do it. I think it’s looking bad in front of others that prevents many from trying.

Exactly this, I have been desired to obtain Arah heavy legging since launch.(A lv10 noob starring at the dungeon merchant since then….) But almost 3 years passed, i’ve only played arah exp P1 once and i found that it took too long to complete, therefore i’ve never join any arah exp again. And of couse i am never able to obtain the skin until couple days ago i got it from the PvP reward track.

you are not “never able to obtain the skin”. You are compeltely able to obtain it, the point is, you choose not to. There’s quite the difference.

No, it is not my choice.

Time is what i don’t have especially after marrage.

i work till 8pm everyday. 1hr transport to home. i have to start cooking with my wife, about 10pm we’ve done dinner, since then we need to clean up and i am only able to play while she is bathing. That 15-20mins period sometimes not enough for me to finish 1 pvp match.

Every time i contents that require longer playtime, i will have to afk here and there to take care family matters. Therefore i only party with RL friends. We understand each other and we all have needs to attent to family problems.

You are lucky for having so many luxery time to play. I dont because most of my time is working. I live in the most expensive housing city in the world. I have a good salary job which is well above average. But i do not own a house and if i want to, i need to save up all my earnings for 17years no spending a penny to buy a small flat at CURRENT price if the housing got no inflation for that period.

There are many players that only play for casual for entertainment only. I like the way pvp now even i am no pvpers, i can still slowly obtain the skin i desired.

You’re cooking with your wife instead of playing? You’re going to your high paying job? You’re choosing to put those as priority over the game. As you should but still, the people with more time can afford to spend it on gaming. It’s a bummer not everyone has it but it’s part of being an adult. Choose to help your wife or choose to get shiny gear. Your choice

If we had access to 4 trait lines at a time then no, there’d be no reason not to pick it. But there are some good combos that can’t be made while taking Reaper. Especially a combo of blood magic, soul reaping, and death magic. If I could add reaper as well I’d be an unstoppable force lol

Yea probably right lol then again all it takes is one theory crafter from DNT to say reapers are good and bam… instant reaper meta gospel

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

You’re going to see the ‘no elite spec’ ads for the same reason you see ‘must have x ap’ ‘must be zerk’ ‘must be 80’ etc etc.

1) People know what works and tend to be adverse to change (“If it aint broke don’t fix it”) They typically hate and/or fear anything outside their comfort zone.

2) The current state of pve is rather simplistic. The things the elite specs bring to the table aren’t necessary in the quantities that they bring them.

3) A lot of people are simply kittens, but that’s humanity for you

Unless you’re a necro then it’ll be MUST be reaper lol

Gabriell.4856:

Zalavaaris.5329:

So did 2 heavy armor classes. Do you honestly think they will put a LOT of time into the already tested classes after bwe2? The first reveals only had a weekend of testing just like the next group of classes so there’s no difference in test time. Anything they do to the already tested specs will be some fine tuning but that’s about it. Their focus will undoubtedly be the new revealed specs. You must not trust their time management skills.

What do you mean there’s won’t be a difference in test time. I’m assuming the next BWE will include all classes that have been or will be revealed. Are you saying classes already BWE tested will not be available in BWE2? If so, that would be fair. If not, then my original statement holds true.

It doesn’t matter what I think. Testing is testing and what Anet does is up to them. I just want ALL classes to have the same amount of testing.

Testing was the wrong choice of words. I’m talking about the focus and time they put into the specs. What ever the new thief spec is for example will most likely receive more attention in the next BWE than say necros. And what NEEDS to be changed with tempest other than balancing numbers? They aren’t getting a sword and scrapping war horn, they aren’t going to give an entirely new role, etc.

Edit: actually, I’m leaving this thread now so no need to reply. It’s a stupid complaint for the sake of complaining. I promise you will all be fine one way or the other and if you’re so upset go outside and throw a kitten ball around.

Yea, don’t get hung up on the elite name slapped on them. I’m fairly sure they are only called elites because anet releasing their new mutually exclusive specs doesn’t have a good ring to it lol

So did 2 heavy armor classes. Do you honestly think they will put a LOT of time into the already tested classes after bwe2? The first reveals only had a weekend of testing just like the next group of classes so there’s no difference in test time. Anything they do to the already tested specs will be some fine tuning but that’s about it. Their focus will undoubtedly be the new revealed specs. You must not trust their time management skills.

To be fair people with that attitude will call it unfinished either way. Maybe they are done as much as any other elite spec. I’m pretty sure they have them all done and use releases to build hype. Having a reveal won’t help balance or fine tuning and I’m very sure they will be available for the next BWE.

Gonna get nerfed

Because it’s competitive

Then play rev

Does anyone complaining about the damage even play a necro? Have you all been brainwashed into thinking if you are anything but useless you are op? If we end up being the best damages in a team fight is that SO wrong that we are the best at something? Do you hate the idea of being wanted in speed clears for you decent damage numbers?

Sigmoid.7082:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Vydahr.4285:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Sigmoid.7082:

spoj.9672:

Sigmoid.7082:

Last but not least we are actually an event tagging beast. Because reapers onslaught would lower shroud skill cooldowns by 5s every time something dies you can spam shroud #4 for mass spin2win tagging.

Also by my math you can hit 30k+ gravediggers in pve.

Thats really not that amazing when you look at heartseeker and backstab.

But it is a sorely needed and welcomed buff.

Example damage of BS and HS. Be realistic

Zalavaaris.5329:

Good, we will be successful in high end pve and in pvp if our enemies are bad enough to get hit by our super slow abilities they deserve what’s coming to them.

Having played reaper its not as hard as it seems to land gravedigger. Especially in bigger fights where it is more useful.

It’s not hard now… when people have had zero experience with reaper… when people get obliterated they will learn real quick to look out for the animation and when that happens it will be harder to land. I promise you that. The damage is needed to make it worth taking.

In a team fight it should still be pretty punishing, especially if someone is downed and can’t move. In all that chaos, it’s extremely difficult to keep track of anything, and if Everyone dodges gravedigger, well, just means they used a dodge that they won’t have for the next attack by one of your teammates. I guarantee it’ll be useful in that scenario, and more so now that it’ll have better damage

If we don’t do insane damage though then our design is flawed. The entire purpose of this spec is so our enemies DONT want to fight us. Some may have to but it should never be a pleasure to do. Our entire fantasy with this spec hinges on high amounts of damage.

You do reaise that GD will have a coeff of 3 with the damage increase its getting.
To put it into perspective and weapon damage between one hand and two hand taken into account it would do more damage that eviscerate. Or with a tiny bit of might and vulnerability, both of which we generate very easily, you can hit almost twice the amount of damage of a backstab. This is also on an aoe and has its cooldown reset hitting anything below 50%.

And our lack of fire fields and blast finishers to provide group support for a meta game warrants that kind of damage. Oh and our crappy damage mods. Higher base damage will compensate for terrible access to additional damage %s.

Vydahr.4285:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Sigmoid.7082:

spoj.9672:

Sigmoid.7082:

Last but not least we are actually an event tagging beast. Because reapers onslaught would lower shroud skill cooldowns by 5s every time something dies you can spam shroud #4 for mass spin2win tagging.

Also by my math you can hit 30k+ gravediggers in pve.

Thats really not that amazing when you look at heartseeker and backstab.

But it is a sorely needed and welcomed buff.

Example damage of BS and HS. Be realistic

Zalavaaris.5329:

Good, we will be successful in high end pve and in pvp if our enemies are bad enough to get hit by our super slow abilities they deserve what’s coming to them.

Having played reaper its not as hard as it seems to land gravedigger. Especially in bigger fights where it is more useful.

It’s not hard now… when people have had zero experience with reaper… when people get obliterated they will learn real quick to look out for the animation and when that happens it will be harder to land. I promise you that. The damage is needed to make it worth taking.

In a team fight it should still be pretty punishing, especially if someone is downed and can’t move. In all that chaos, it’s extremely difficult to keep track of anything, and if Everyone dodges gravedigger, well, just means they used a dodge that they won’t have for the next attack by one of your teammates. I guarantee it’ll be useful in that scenario, and more so now that it’ll have better damage

If we don’t do insane damage though then our design is flawed. The entire purpose of this spec is so our enemies DONT want to fight us. Some may have to but it should never be a pleasure to do. Our entire fantasy with this spec hinges on high amounts of damage.

Sigmoid.7082:

spoj.9672:

Sigmoid.7082:

Last but not least we are actually an event tagging beast. Because reapers onslaught would lower shroud skill cooldowns by 5s every time something dies you can spam shroud #4 for mass spin2win tagging.

Also by my math you can hit 30k+ gravediggers in pve.

Thats really not that amazing when you look at heartseeker and backstab.

But it is a sorely needed and welcomed buff.

Example damage of BS and HS. Be realistic

Zalavaaris.5329:

Good, we will be successful in high end pve and in pvp if our enemies are bad enough to get hit by our super slow abilities they deserve what’s coming to them.

Having played reaper its not as hard as it seems to land gravedigger. Especially in bigger fights where it is more useful.

It’s not hard now… when people have had zero experience with reaper… when people get obliterated they will learn real quick to look out for the animation and when that happens it will be harder to land. I promise you that. The damage is needed to make it worth taking.